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A vote for Plan A is a vote to get all up in 'Murica's grill with the aid of the Doug family. We should do this (especially since we didn't buy cheap Lockheeds earlier in favour of earning the trust of Doug).
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A vote for Doug is a vote for freedom. Plan A!
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Apr 11, 2014 00:07
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I vote for Doug Jr. because we must look ahead and not back at Russia.
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Apr 11, 2014 02:52
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Continue the assault on 'Murica. Plan A. If it pays off, we can use Doug to greet the Aussies.
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 Business Plan 1967 Budgets pre:Routes Planes Biz Flex Bank ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ 15,975 23,963 0 26,015 0 Primary Objectives: pre:3 - Continue Jet Upgrades, Via Doug Jr. Secondary Objectives: pre:2 - Develop America, Connect New York
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You know, I am surprised that Tel Aviv is not a city in the Middle East region in Aerobiz. It's a pretty major city for the region and if I remember right it's also a major air hub . However, I guess they did not want to deal with the whole Israel issue. After all, I doubt there would be much local traffic between Tel Aviv and other cities in the region such as Baghdad or Tehran.
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1967 - Return to Normal Q1 1967  First things first, got to keep a finger on the pulse of today’s passengers with another dose of Doug Jr.  Adjustments on our line to Florida have nearly brought us past the Doug-Line. Junior’s extra capacity will do great things for our place on the scoreboard. It would take just 26-30 full flights of him per week to make us a contender for top airline in the Region. That’s potentially as little as 5 planes!  A number well within Chicago’s power to provide.  There’s the faintest chance of stealing one more time slot in New York, so I figure it’s worth a shot. We won’t get it, but the cost is no big deal.  More big jets.  And a spot of Doug. While their preference for Constellations served them well early on, ConAir really needs to buddy up with a source of jets to move forward.  Tourism will remain in Kuala for most of the year, bringing some extra cash our way. Beijing also grows a bit. I don’t expect we’ll need the space, but it’s good to have it there.  And slots pop in Mexico as dueling airlines finally drive them to expand.    If it weren’t for the Russians imploding, Air’Murica would be close to losing their Larger-Profits-Than-Everyone-Else-Combined status. Q2 1967  Times are fairly swell.  We fall frustratingly short of going after New York. No big loss, as we’ll be good for it in Q3, but still an opportunity expended.  And there’s the tipping point. Going forward, we will begin to reap the benefits of Doug Jr’s hidden potential. We’re losing a tiny bit of money on these changes, but the chance of rising to 2nd or even 1st place in America is quite tempting.  Meanwhile, in Europe, things are a bit stagnant. Rome refuses to build more airport and our Athenian connection is under-performing compared to its glory days. Much is due in Europe if we expect to climb to the top there. For now, I give back some time in Greece. With the bottleneck in Rome we’d never get to use it.  Since I have a spare Junior on hand, I stage a little demonstration of his skills. Here’s what we’d get if he were subbed in at Beijing. In addition to the boost in capacity over Doug, Junior’s greater speed is on display - able to run 5 flights vs Doug’s 3. I leave the line as is for now. I’d just be switching it back next turn anyway.  A busy turn from blue as they open service to New Zealand and try their hands at a little Pacific island.  ConAir joins in on our efforts to bite into the American market.  Space opens in our hubs, both in the USA and at home. It will be put to work.    Our usual Q2 bump is held off by our delayed opening in New York. Q3 1967  Sports on the horizon.   And the rise of Doug Junior’s fierce rival. Boeing’s attempt at a short range jet is just slightly worse, and a smidge more expensive. We can safely ignore it.  ConAir is firmly on the offensive, opening service to Taiwan and bidding in Munich, Brisbane, and Hong Kong.  News flies by quickly, so I managed not to notice them sneaking in a link to Baghdad. Failing to adjust our prices in response will let them sneak off with a decent pile of fares.   Per my earlier remark, this round of bids should put us close to all we need to have a shot at taking North America. That, and some insurance back at home.  With ConAir’s existing line to benchmark off of, we’re in a good position to judge how much Biz we can get out of New York. Junior’s speed means he could pull off daily flights all on his own, and ConAir’s full schedule shows we could fill every one of them. We’re only held back by our local slot count. I launch at base price, but expect we’ll get to squeeze out more.  Signs of life!  The Six Day War, which will take many months of Aero-Time to cool, begins. As before, our business in Egypt will be largely unaffected by the open warfare directly under the path of our flights. They’re cool with it.    And there’s that bump. Q4 1967  Iraq turns its back on the west. No change of opinion towards us.  We retook the lead in Asia, and they really want it back.  And these guys really want to get in our face.  The damage mentioned earlier from Air’Murica’s outing to Baghdad. Note that even when over half-empty our trusty old IL14 still makes some healthy margins. Correcting our prices will turn this from a slight victory for the Americans into another trap route.   A quick glance at their other locals reveals the AI still has no clue how to run 3rd world routes, but also that there’s a fair number of passengers to be had out of Calcutta. If we don’t make a fair attempt to tap those routes ourselves, we may risk being overtaken.  Tourism fades in Kuala Lumpur, prompting a return to normal rates.   Good news all around stateside, and New York opens strong. With just three local routes, we move 15660 people per quarter, accounting for about 20% of all air travel in North America. Air’Murica handles 51%. If we ever manage to snipe three more slots in New York, we could add 4320 to that score without any additional aircraft.  Tourism shifts back to a city served by no one.    This turn, the Russians suspended all their local flights in Africa. This is the highest profit they’ve turned in the last four years. Funny, that.  1967 Year-End Review  While not back to the heights we hit before the Kashmir war, things are still looking up. Our presence in America is starting to pay off, and Doug Jr is proving a cost-effective way to add seats to our network. Going forward, we still need to finish breaking into the remaining regions, and our old connectors are long overdue for upgrades. As before, the way Oceania depends on buying a new long-range plane to get us to Sydney from Hong Kong. With our new base in Chicago, the leap to South America is now a much simpler task. Mexico City is 1680 Miles away for $38.4M, and Havana’s 1370 Miles for only $19.8M. That’s Doug Jr. range to get from Illinois to Cuba! (Sao Paulo falls back into Jet territory at 5250 Miles and a whopping $45.5M opening cost.)   We have $51,560K in profit from this year to put towards our goals. Budget Carryover: pre:Routes Planes Biz Flex Bank
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Apr 14, 2014 21:31
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We have Doug Jrs. already. Build a hub in Havana, Cuba.
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Apr 14, 2014 21:53
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I'm a little torn between Mexico City and Havana. At what point does the lack of competition for slots lose out to the fact that the population of Mexico City is ~3.5x that of Havana, and the Econ/Tourism numbers are at least 2x better? There's also the fact that we ARE going to need more Doug to open Oceania.
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Apr 15, 2014 14:14
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Build the hub in Mexico City.
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Apr 15, 2014 14:49
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Do you think that going into Mexico City would have enough traffic, given that both Murica and ConAir have set up hubs there? Havana may not have particularly good stats, but it would be a lot cheaper and may give us better results.
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Apr 15, 2014 17:43
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Open Oceania routes. Take ConAir's Aussie biz. Edit: Vote changed see below. paragon1 fucked around with this message at 21:25 on Apr 15, 2014 |
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Apr 15, 2014 17:46
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I've never liked Havana as a hub. It's too small. Its main advantage over Mexico City, other than price, is that it's centrally located to the other cities in the region, which is beneficial in this pre-jumbo era. I'd rather hold off on South America and buy the planes we need for that long-overdue route to Australia.
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Apr 15, 2014 20:37
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For a little perspective on the relative size of these regions, here's the current spread of passengers: Inter-regionals are by far the largest slice of the AeroPie, and the field we've done the least development of for a while now. We've not added anything to our connectors in nearly 4 years.
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Apr 15, 2014 21:17
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Connect all of the Regions. All of them. Do whatever it takes. Sell the boat if you have to.
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A_Raving_Loon posted:Inter-regionals are by far the largest slice of the AeroPie, and the field we've done the least development of for a while now. We've not added anything to our connectors in nearly 4 years. And I keep trying to push growing our inter-regional flights because they're the biggest money makers. Especially routes between North America, Europe, Aisa, and Australia. We need to get more jets, put them on inter regional duty, open HK to Sydney and start growing our income, then we can worry about South America. And sell that stupid boat. If it doesn't have wings and turbofans it is no good! 
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Apr 15, 2014 21:27
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Galaga Galaxian posted:
So in other words burn money we already spent? We are making direct and indirect income from it, more than if we liquidated it. keep the boat and set more traps.
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Galaga Galaxian posted:And I keep trying to push growing our inter-regional flights because they're the biggest money makers. Especially routes between North America, Europe, Aisa, and Australia. From one of Raving Loon's comments during the update I suspect that Rome suffers from a problem shared by several of the other hubs. Basically, the number of slots the airport allows us to have falls short of the number needed to trigger the airport expansion. Unless one of the AIs decides to bid for a few slots in Rome the airport will never expand. Off the top of my head Mexico City, Paris and Tokyo also have this problem. The only way to increase the passenger loads on our European and inter-regional routes is to convert all of our flights out of Rome to using DC-8 60's to satiate the demand for our routes using the smallest number of slots. If you want to close the gap in North America, I suggest we take a nice island vacation to Honolulu. It has the highest tourism stat in scenario 1 (65) and can be reached from Chicago with either a Constellation or one of Doug's big brothers. Spielmeister fucked around with this message at 23:12 on Apr 15, 2014 |
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Apr 15, 2014 23:07
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xelada posted:So in other words burn money we already spent? We are making direct and indirect income from it, more than if we liquidated it. Or we could sell the stupid thing and spend the money on planes, which make money faster. It was a foolish investment.
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Spielmeister posted:If you want to close the gap in North America, I suggest we take a nice island vacation to Honolulu. It has the highest tourism stat in scenario 1 (65) and can be reached from Chicago with either a Constellation or one of Doug's big brothers. Distance 4310 Miles, Cost $11.3M, for reference. Cheapest plane which could handle that range is indeed the Constellation for $24.2M, then the IL62 at $30M, and the larger Dougs around the $50M mark.
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Apr 15, 2014 23:17
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Plus we'd actually get most of the money back. I believe its value was listed as 55 million, that is almost two Doug Juniors it could buy. The boat earns us 600kish a quarter. How much would two, or even one Junior earn us in that time? (Edit) Actually that is two juniors. A Jr costs 26mil. Galaga Galaxian fucked around with this message at 23:24 on Apr 15, 2014 |
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Apr 15, 2014 23:20
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Like so: At the current time our boat is worth $44M if sold.
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Apr 15, 2014 23:39
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Whoo, been away from this for a while. Coming back, it strikes me that any good Glorious Worker's Revolution must rest upon the shoulders of the masses. Let us Join Arms with our good comrade Доуглас, that we may Unite the workers of the world! (Let's buy a shitton of cheap Ilyushins and max out Tehran-Hong Kong)
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A_Raving_Loon posted:
I remember playing the really old version for the SNES, and liking it even though I had a habit of burning money to connect every city ASAP before my tarting funds ran out. A race to win before bankruptcy, as it were. That said, how do you play as Russia? I remember trying once, staring at my mind-boggling lack of planes that don't suck, and restarting somewhere else.
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Apr 16, 2014 00:43
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For the 50s scenario - Spam IL14s into local routes in Europe, Africa, and the Middle East, then wait for the IL62 to debut and spam those instead. In the rest of the scenarios, the gulf between Russian and Euro/American manufacturers is far less extreme than the early game of scenario 1, so they play more smoothly.
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Apr 16, 2014 00:50
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Buy Ilyushins, comrade, so we can tap into our existing inter-regionals. Then use the Dougs that are displaced by that to fill out the rest of our network or open new routes. 
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Apr 16, 2014 00:53
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BIG DOUG. Doug has released some of the best big jets of this entire scenario. We need to start buying the big jets and using them to Develop new Inter-Regional routes. Those seem to be the biggest moneymakers. I leave the exact inter-regionals to develop to the OP's discretion. I'd like to keep the boat though.
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Apr 16, 2014 02:40
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Don't you dare lay a hand on our precious boat.  Actually, I'd like to change my vote from establishing a hub in Havana, to upgrading as many flights out of Rome as possible, so that we might free up space for future routes.
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Apr 16, 2014 03:55
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Sell boat. Buy plane.
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Apr 16, 2014 04:01
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Keep the boat. The moment you sell the boat every other vote will be "Buy Boat". Build Up Our Connections
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Vexrm posted:Keep the boat. The moment you sell the boat every other vote will be "Buy Boat". Keep boat for the reason above.
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Apr 16, 2014 18:01
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Thats it, I'm submitting a CV to ConAir and Murica.
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Apr 16, 2014 18:01
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Boat is not Doug. Sell Boat, Buy Junior.
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Apr 16, 2014 18:25
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Vexrm posted:Keep the boat. The moment you sell the boat every other vote will be "Buy Boat". You ought to have faith that our fellow board members will not make the same mistake twice 
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Apr 16, 2014 19:58
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The Boat enthusiasts can go play this game. 
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Apr 16, 2014 20:04
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The Casualty posted:You ought to have faith that our fellow board members will not make the same mistake twice If it helps think of it as Portfolio Diversity. The ship is not sinking us and chasing after sunk cost is a poor move and will divide the votes more wildly.
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Apr 16, 2014 22:25
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Vexrm posted:If it helps think of it as Portfolio Diversity. The ship is not sinking us and chasing after sunk cost is a poor move and will divide the votes more wildly. We don't need diversity as much as we need aircraft with seats and asses to fill them. The boat seems to be dividing the votes just fine, it's a lovely investment which will take decades to pay off. We'd have been better off buying aircraft.
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Apr 16, 2014 22:38
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With that boat money and our current budget, would could get a whole pair of Douglas.
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How many prop planes could we free up for use or resale if we put those two theoretical jets somewhere useful?
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As the votes currently favor upgrading our connectors, I may throw such planes THROMwards, freeing 5 Doug for use elsewhere.
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