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mastershakeman posted:
in my most optimistic outlook it would take a relatively very small public investment to make all of those cities not only attractive but actually good and cool but welp public transit, internet, and healthcare is a nonstarter even in places of 100k people where the material need isn't particularly onerous. a sustainable modern urban core would be child's play in a place like Peoria none of that hires more cops or pays CEO salaries htough so welp
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Gunshow Poophole posted:in my most optimistic outlook it would take a relatively very small public investment to make all of those cities not only attractive but actually good and cool but welp public transit, internet, and healthcare is a nonstarter even in places of 100k people where the material need isn't particularly onerous. a sustainable modern urban core would be child's play in a place like Peoria yea it sucks. whats even sadder is the local officials are absolutely desperate for any new blood, they just can't do anything. republicans are just like please god anyone come here, we dont care who quote:The Times article provided a history of Peoria’s housing market, explaining why the median home price, $128,100, is considerably lower than the national average of $328,600. The story also delved into the city’s political leanings, pointing out the fact that the population is more liberal than those of surrounding communities. Two local politicians weighed in on the fact that Ostaszewski’s efforts may be making the city even more liberal.
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A Bad King posted:As long as some vets don't live in a mansion on the north shore, they pay approximately $0 in ptax because the USA sent impressionable young idiots to war zones and broke their brains and turned their blood into toxic sludge from burnpits, and Illinois is good for that small charity. they shouldn't get a tax break. that guy is right
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Gunshow Poophole posted:in my most optimistic outlook it would take a relatively very small public investment to make all of those cities not only attractive but actually good and cool but welp public transit, internet, and healthcare is a nonstarter even in places of 100k people where the material need isn't particularly onerous. a sustainable modern urban core would be child's play in a place like Peoria Large cities benefit too much from agglomeration economies. You'd have to end capitalism (maybe just wealth accumulation?) to allow those not-large-cities to start growing again.
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A decade ago, The Articles all predicted that old people would retire to college towns as golf course living in irrigated deserts and filled swampland lost its luster for the Woodstock retirees. The boomers of leisure could go to student symphonies, take classes, and get waited on by students instead of immigrants. I guess Urbana and Bloomington don't have the appeal of Athens and Berkeley.
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About that long ago I talked to a real estate guy and he went into golf course retirement states being outlawed or made difficult to build due to those goddamn environmental regulations. (And good if true)
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Greg12 posted:A decade ago, The Articles all predicted that old people would retire to college towns as golf course living in irrigated deserts and filled swampland lost its luster for the Woodstock retirees. The boomers of leisure could go to student symphonies, take classes, and get waited on by students instead of immigrants. Urbana and Bloomington get snow. Olds hate being cold. Pretty simple.
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my secret is just waiting out the hot weather. by the time I'm 69 it's gonna be tropical where I'm at.
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Over its lifetime my neighborhood has shifted from family homeowners, to rentals for college students, to retirees (who want to live in town but always drive everywhere).
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my area is slowly filling up with vacation rentals. you can always tell because (in addition to rarely seeing anyone come or go), the yard is generally clean but then there will be a rotting jack o lantern sitting by the side of the house for 8 months.
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The house next to me was, for lack of a better term, a trap house. The guy who was renting it started out as a regular individual with his girlfriend and their baby, and slowly progressed to where she got kicked out of the house and there were people coming up and down my street constantly in their vehicles and the dude would walk out and throw something in their car and they'd bounce. I am 99% certain I heard gun shots back in November. Weirdest thing I ever saw was me drinking my coffee on a rainy Sunday, only to see two women in short skirts leaving the house and jumping on bikes leaving said house....lol Dude ended up getting evicted from the place back in Jan. That house is still unoccupied. They left the windows closed but no curtains and the lights on once after he was evicted and every single wall that I saw had been graffiti'd with spray paint in the most methed up artistic way possible. Dude was the stereotypical methed out paranoid schitzo, and his pit bull constantly broke through the lovely fence into our yard, and he was a very mean pit bull... Would easily guess that house is still over $450k
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mastershakeman posted:Lmao at 5 of the top 6 being in Illinois Your perception is definitely warped. I was going to say something when you were posting before, but Chicago is notable for being weirdly affordable for a city that's a legitimately really nice and desirable place to live. I live in a suburb in CT and my buddy in Chicago's rent is lower than the converted SFHs on my street.
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i will never go to illinois
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anime was right posted:i will never go to illinois
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Paradoxish posted:Your perception is definitely warped. I was going to say something when you were posting before, but Chicago is notable for being weirdly affordable for a city that's a legitimately really nice and desirable place to live. I live in a suburb in CT and my buddy in Chicago's rent is lower than the converted SFHs on my street. are you aware of how cold it gets?
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anime was right posted:i will never go to illinois My uncle lives in Chicago it’s pretty nice to visit except in the winter Visited over Xmas once and never again
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War and Pieces posted:are you aware of how cold it gets? not for long! this is a selling point in climatehell also Kids These Days etc back in my day blah blah windchill
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it's on the great plains so there's nothing actually stopping giant cold fronts, they'll just likely get less frequent. two years ago it hit 4 degrees in austin, shattering records
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Illinois isn't cold until you're up by Rockford! Chicago is warm! Rockford isn't even cold compared to Madison or Minneapolis, let alone the Dakotas! Rule of thumb is Chicago -7 F is Rockford, -7F is mpls. Rockford gets way lower snowfall and way more days with snow cover since it doesn't just melt right away Toronto is about the same as Rockford and Montreal Madison, with lower averages in Canada but lower extremes in the Midwest People are just cowards. However , there is a definite rust damage to be aware of for vehicles that doesn't exist in the south, but a lot of rich home buyers aren't driving their cars into the ground anyways
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# ? Apr 8, 2023 19:43 |
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i say swears online posted:it's on the great plains so there's nothing actually stopping giant cold fronts, they'll just likely get less frequent. two years ago it hit 4 degrees in austin, shattering records haha Chicago is not Rockford there's a giant heat sink right there it's also just noticeably warmer than it was 20 years ago look at this mf minimizing my lived experience mastershakeman posted:
also this. learn to walk so your legs don't touch your pants it's not hard!!
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Chicagoland weather sucks rear end for 9 or so months of the year. It's either too cold and humid and windy or too hot and humid. One time my high school got hit by an F5 tornado but luckily it was the day before school so it only killed a few people. In short the Midwest is a land of contrasts
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Rockford is not asking you to climb a metal staircase and wait 20 min for a train in a giant wind tunnel
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War and Pieces posted:are you aware of how cold it gets? Chicago's about the same as Pittsburgh in the winter
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I went to Peoria in 2017 for work and the things that stood out were how loving huge the bass pro shop was, and that we saw this thing just cruising around several times in two days:
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War and Pieces posted:are you aware of how cold it gets? Not so much anymore! I didn't even have to watch parking bc of snow emergencies this year bc it never got that bad, and melted before long.
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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:In an actual functioning market, WFH office workers making a $20/plate lunch place in the city core here unviable would mean that the expensive lunch place closes, the rent goes down, and a new business opens in that space with a different business model. accurate
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last time investors had this issue they just burned all the buildings down for the insurance money
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https://twitter.com/JeremiahDJohns/status/1644695115418533891?s=20
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that makes sense. that’s 20% of about 600,000 or so
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simmyb posted:I went to Peoria in 2017 for work and the things that stood out were how loving huge the bass pro shop was, and that we saw this thing just cruising around several times in two days: This is the google result for a neighboring towns police department lol
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Paradoxish posted:More and more existing homeowners will basically be trapped in their current homes or need to use the entirety of their "gains" as a down payment if they want to move into another house with a higher mortgage payment. very much looking forward to doing this if and when I outgrow my $4,000 fixerupper (Now closer to $40,000)
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Paradoxish posted:More and more existing homeowners will basically be trapped in their current homes or need to use the entirety of their "gains" as a down payment if they want to move into another house with a higher mortgage payment. Yeah it sucks. We’d like to move because this was our first house and there’s stuff we didn’t realize we’d like or not like until we were homeowners and parents but even just moving in to identical house just with a different floor plan that we like better would double our mortgage payment.
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amazing
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https://www.latimes.com/california/...s-what-happenedquote:The California Housing Finance Agency launched the California Dream for All Shared Appreciation loan program two weeks ago, offering qualified first-time buyers up to 20% of the purchase price of a house or condominium. two weeks e: oops, didn't read page Fozzy The Bear has issued a correction as of 02:41 on Apr 9, 2023 |
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Thoguh posted:Yeah it sucks. We’d like to move because this was our first house and there’s stuff we didn’t realize we’d like or not like until we were homeowners and parents but even just moving in to identical house just with a different floor plan that we like better would double our mortgage payment. It really seems like an almost completely unavoidable trap with real estate acting as an investment. If the main reason to treat a home as an investment is "free" equity and if everyone is doing the same thing then that extra equity will never amount to anything for anyone who needs to move within a similar market. All it really does is act as a trap for people dumb enough to borrow against their equity, while everyone else needs to accept eternal, always-increasing mortgages to have any kind of mobility at all.
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Wonder how the rental market is looking here lol hmmmmm
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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:Wonder how the rental market is looking here Whatthe fucj just have them share a wall holy poo poo this is the dumbest style of building
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That's pretty usual here, to provide common access to the rear courtyard area.
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