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goatface posted:Alternatively, with the way that those mechs have been looking at them, they might think "Oh poo poo, Comstar aren't happy with us fighting right outside their space-modem and are phoning home about it." Yea I'd think this is more likely. That or we're reading a hell of a lot more in to the Capellan's actions than are actually there, because they're just thinking "Blow up these loving guerillas that have been harassing us"
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goatface posted:Alternatively, with the way that those mechs have been looking at them, they might think "Oh poo poo, Comstar aren't happy with us fighting right outside their space-modem and are phoning home about it." Yeah, I thought of that too but they'll still look at the HPG complex. But maybe it'll work pretty well as a distraction, an HPG transmitting should draw the eye pretty well.
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Jul 14, 2015 14:32
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Is a precentor the one there is only one of per faction?
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Affi posted:Is a precentor the one there is only one of per faction? A precentor is a high-ranking officer in ComStar or the Word of Blake (not necessarily military). There are tons of them. You may be thinking of Precentor-Martial which is the title of the head of the Com Guards and of the Word of Blake Militia.
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Remember quikscells motto. "You could do a lot worse than a vedette, have you browsed our selection of scorpions?"
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"Vidette, the measuring stick by which all other AC/5s are judged"
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Carbolic posted:A precentor is a high-ranking officer in ComStar or the Word of Blake (not necessarily military). There are tons of them. You may be thinking of Precentor-Martial which is the title of the head of the Com Guards and of the Word of Blake Militia. Yeah, one of the things about ComStar is every person in ComStar has a rank regardless of what they do. Accountants, PR staff, HPG personnel, archivists, they all have a rank, branch and grade.
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Jul 14, 2015 19:44
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Orders in, backing to 0812, shooting the Yu Huang, with contingencies to shoot the Sha Yu if :battletech: happens and we get a second lucky gauss KO. My ghost targets are going to the Cerb, which should always be in range of me (Unless it's not in which case I'll put them on the War Dog).
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Affi posted:Is a precentor the one there is only one of per faction? You're thinking of the First Circuit, the governing body of Comstar. This man is not Precentor Sian, he's just the Precentor of that particular HPG station.
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Preechr posted:You're thinking of the First Circuit, the governing body of Comstar. This man is not Precentor Sian, he's just the Precentor of that particular HPG station. Not all Precentors are created equal. Being Precentor of a lovely Federast dirt ball like Broken Wheel is not the same as being the Precentor of Kooken's Pleasure Pit even if the ranks are equal.
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It could be even worse than that. Poor Pacifica's HPG only gets fired up once every year or so so they've gotta play JumpShip pony express to get their space-mail.
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Behind Enemy Lines: Tactical Update 9 “Well, that was a wash,” Bad grumbled, grinding a large stone into the dirt beneath the Maelstrom’s cloven feet. “There’s so much residual heat and iron in the soil that my computer can’t get a lock.” “They’re in the same boat. I guess we’re still feeling each other out,” Ballista agreed, his voice heavily distorted by the War Dog’s own high-power ECM. “I’m not going to be satisfied if we leave before knocking out at least two more of them. Hellhound, what’s our targeting priority? We need to eliminate some of their long-range firepower to make them less willing to pursue us into the badlands but I don’t think we can ignore the Thunder for long.” “Use your best judgment,” was Hellhound’s reply. “We’ve hurt them. We’re going to hurt them more. As long as all four of us walk out of here in one piece I’ll be more than happy to call it a victory. Still: if anyone’s armor breaches I want you to back off or even withdraw. We’ve all got XL engines but I suspect the new Capellan designs probably do too. I’d say: pick a partner and focus fire with them but we may not have that luxury. Don’t get target fixated, just giving the Capellans a huge repair bill is good enough.”   Movement Phase War Dog (Player) - Generating Ghost Targets on War Dog (4 base + 2 ECM Tuning = 6): rolled 10, succeeds! MOS: 4 Maelstrom (Player) - Generating Ghost Targets on Cerberus (4 base + 2 ECM Tuning = 6): rolled 5, fails! Shooting Phase War Dog (Player) - Fires Gauss Rifle at Yu Huang (4 base + 0 range + 1 movement + 2 enemy movement + 1 dusk = 8): rolled 7, miss! - Fires Large Pulse Laser at Yu Huang (4 base + 2 range + 1 movement + 2 enemy movement + 1 dusk - 2 pulse laser = 8): rolled 5, miss! - Fires One-Shot Streak SRM-2 at Yu Huang (4 base + 4 range + 1 movement + 2 enemy movement + 1 dusk = 12): rolled 2, fails to lock-on! - Fires One-Shot Streak SRM-2 at Yu Huang (4 base + 4 range + 1 movement + 2 enemy movement + 1 dusk = 12): rolled 7, fails to lock-on! - Gains 12 heat, sinks 20! Nightstar (Player) - Fires Gauss Rifle at Yu Huang (4 base + 4 range + 0 movement + 2 enemy movement + 1 dusk = 11): rolled 5, miss! - Fires Gauss Rifle at Yu Huang (4 base + 4 range + 0 movement + 2 enemy movement + 1 dusk = 11): rolled 7, miss! - Fires ER PPC at Yu Huang (4 base + 4 range + 0 movement + 2 enemy movement + 1 dusk = 11): rolled 10, miss! - Gains 17 heat, sinks 28! Maelstrom (Player) - Fires ER PPC at Yu Huang (4 base + 2 range + 1 movement + 2 enemy movement + 1 dusk = 10): rolled 6, miss! - Fires ER Large Laser at Yu Huang (4 base + 2 range + 1 movement + 2 enemy movement + 1 dusk = 10): rolled 6, miss! - Gains 28 heat, sinks 34! Cerberus (Player) - Fires Gauss Rifle at Sha Yu (4 base + 0 range + 2 movement + 3 enemy movement + 1 dusk = 10): rolled 6, miss! - Fires Gauss Rifle at Sha Yu (4 base + 0 range + 2 movement + 3 enemy movement + 1 dusk = 10): rolled 7, miss! - Gains 4 heat, sinks 30! Sha-yu - Fires ER Large Laser at Cerberus (4 base + 0 range + 2 movement + 1 enemy movement + 1 dusk = 8): rolled 6, miss! - Fires ER Large Laser at Cerberus (4 base + 0 range + 2 movement + 1 enemy movement + 1 dusk = 8): rolled 5, miss! - Gains 26 heat, sinks 26! Yu Huang - Attempts to resist Ghost Targets (3 base + 4 Highest MOS = 7): rolled 9, succeeds! - Fires ER PPC at War Dog (3 base + 0 range + 2 movement + 1 enemy movement + 1 dusk = 7): rolled 5, miss! - Fires Medium Laser at War Dog (3 base + 4 range + 2 movement + 1 enemy movement + 1 dusk = 11): rolled 7, miss! - Fires Medium Laser at War Dog (3 base + 4 range + 2 movement + 1 enemy movement + 1 dusk = 11): rolled 7, miss! - Fires Autocannon/20 at War Dog (3 base + 4 range + 2 movement + 1 enemy movement + 1 dusk = 11): rolled 3, miss! - Gains 30 heat, sinks 26! Thunder - Holds fire! - Gains 2 heat, sinks 22! Penetrator - Fires ER Large Laser at War Dog (4 base + 2 range + 2 movement + 1 enemy movement + 1 dusk = 10): rolled 7, miss! - Fires ER Large Laser at War Dog (4 base + 2 range + 2 movement + 1 enemy movement + 1 dusk = 10): rolled 8, miss! - Gains 26 heat, sinks 24! Jinggau - Fires Gauss Rifle at Cerberus (4 base+ 2 range + 3 movement + 1 enemy movement + 1 dusk = 11): rolled 7, miss! - Fires ER Medium Laser at Cerberus (4 base+ 2 range + 3 movement + 1 enemy movement + 1 dusk = 11): rolled 6, miss! - Fires ER Medium Laser at Cerberus (4 base+ 2 range + 3 movement + 1 enemy movement + 1 dusk = 11): rolled 2, miss! - Fires ER Medium Laser at Cerberus (4 base+ 2 range + 3 movement + 1 enemy movement + 1 dusk = 11): rolled 5, miss! - Fires ER Medium Laser at Cerberus (4 base+ 2 range + 3 movement + 1 enemy movement + 1 dusk = 11): rolled 9, miss! - Gains 26 heat, sinks 26!   Player Status:  Opposing Force Status:   Neutral Status  Mission Objective: - Protect Carlos Marik (0/1) Secondary Objectives: - Damage but don’t destroy the Civillian `Mechbay in hex 0517 (1/1) - Destroy the Capellan Checkpoint in hex 1418 (1/1) - - Make it look like an accident (1/1) - Avoid Antagonizing ComStar (0/1) Vengeance Counter: 3 Message Counter: 4 Special Rules:  Dusk – This mission takes place at dusk, applying a +1 penalty to-hit. This penalty may worsen if the mission lasts long enough for night to fall. Escort Mission – This mission has a mobile objective that must be defended.Orders Due: Midnight Saturday! PoptartsNinja fucked around with this message at 21:20 on Jul 15, 2015 |
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Jul 15, 2015 21:09
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Whiffarific! Sorry to be tedious, PTN, but the Sha Yu doesn't have the listed armor value; if that was the target for the Cerb's Gauss hit, there's a crit incoming. Though it might be another miss and so just a C/P thing.
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Jul 15, 2015 21:15
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Nothing hit this turn, copy-pasta, etc, etc. 
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Jul 15, 2015 21:20
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Heh, can't wait for night time 
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Jul 15, 2015 21:28
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Whifffffwhifwhifwhifwhifwhif! (I think that's going to be the theme for this mission.) Damned close on the War Dog's gauss shot though.
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Jul 15, 2015 21:29
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That Lightray is just spacing the gently caress out looking at something.
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Fuzzy Mammal posted:Heh, can't wait for night time Fun with the searchlight rules!
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Hm, now might be a change to get good shots on the Penetrator, it only moved two hexes. If a unit (like the Thunder) has a weapon split between arm and torso, it can't flip it's arms and shoot backwards, right?
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Jul 15, 2015 21:44
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It can't even get that AC/20 behind it with a torso twist. But let's not get into a place it will be hard to get out from. (and into short range from the Penny's MPLs)
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Jul 15, 2015 21:48
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Turn 9 already and I'm completely surprise by how little damage has been dealt so far, especially considering the heavy firepower being fielded right now.
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Jul 15, 2015 22:11
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Well be fair, the lighter lance the Capellans started with has been torn to shreds and their heavies have only just closed the distance for a proper fight. That last turn was pretty drat unlikely in terms of everything missing, true, but now everyone's pretty close-in that should change. Really close-in, actually. This doesn't seem like a great setup for the players, shouldn't they be backing up more? Could nightfall help with Carlos's escape? If searchlight rules or what have you kick in maybe he'll have some cover from the darkness.
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Jul 15, 2015 22:22
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Planning on turning and walking backwards to 0615, which should keep me out of the Jinggau's firing arc; I think I can decline LOS to the Sha Yu as well. Then I should be able to open up on the Yu Huang in relative safety. If the Lightray continues its immoble search next turn, then I'll back up in its direction and let anyone shooting at me potentially be mistaken for shooting at ComStar. 
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DivineCoffeeBinge posted:Planning on turning and walking backwards to 0615, which should keep me out of the Jinggau's firing arc; I think I can decline LOS to the Sha Yu as well. Then I should be able to open up on the Yu Huang in relative safety. We blew up 617 and 616 to get our booby prize Mech, so you don't get cover from those spaces  You'd have to go to 0515 to be able to decline LoS from the Jinggau and shoot the Sha yu. e: I thiiink if you go to 414, turn to face 413, and torso twist to face 514, you should be able to shoot the Yu Huang and block LoS from the Jinggau and Sha Yu. Gwaihir fucked around with this message at 22:30 on Jul 15, 2015 |
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Gwaihir posted:We blew up 617 and 616 to get our booby prize Mech, so you don't get cover from those spaces Oh, yeah, rubble doesn't block anything. Jesus I'm dumb. Also I like your idea better, as it gets me into better position for Operation Hey Look Those Guys Are Attacking You, ComStar.
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Jul 15, 2015 22:36
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I really have no idea what the best move is for myself or the War Dog. If we go forward for OK ish sorta positions or shots this turn we'll get trapped on the next one. I think if the War Dog backs up to 1015 he blocks LoS from everything but the Yu Huang, and can get good shots there (Probably 7s). But next turn there's 4 enemy mechs that can all get nearly on top of him, and the only way out would be to Kool Aid man through the building with the Grand Titan in it, or getting to 1012 or 1113 and potentially eating backshots. Granted, if they do that, the Cerb and I will be able to get backshots on them, but it gets really messy really fast. Or he can run to 1819 and exchange a lot of pulse fire with the Penetrator (6es to hit with MPLs  ) but be a bit harder to bottle up on the following turn.I'm sorta thinking to go 1112 for myself and shoot the Yu Huang, but that's just a first thought. I could also back up to 0511 where I would be a target for a shitload of stuff, but they'd risk dinging the Lightray maybe. So might be worth it? Gwaihir fucked around with this message at 22:54 on Jul 15, 2015 |
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Remember you can't change elevation while walking in reverse, so backing up to 0511 won't work; you'll have to turn and run over there, and won't have enough MP left to turn back around fully. 1112 is the spot that jumps out at me - I think the only one with LOS on you from there is the Yu Huang, and you'll have partial cover. Not really loving the War Dog's options. I'm not 100% sure his best option isn't 'run to 1615, unload on the Yu Huang, and go for a kick' or 'move to 1419 and unload on the slow-moving Penetrator,' either of which will see him focused to gently caress and probably in a rotten position for next turn but he may be too far forward to be anything other than aggro. Let's not commit to that just yet, though. e: War Dog could also move to 1221, torso twist to face 1322, and get some shots on the Penetrator before possibly moving to use those rows of buildings for cover or at least maneuvering such that any shots the Capellans take at him have the HPG in the sight picture - which the Capellans are probably just as leery of as we are... and any move they make to chase him could give the rest of us some more fun options. DivineCoffeeBinge fucked around with this message at 23:31 on Jul 15, 2015 |
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Jul 15, 2015 23:28
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Because I have so little concern for its safety, the Thunder is going to let me dictate the terms of the next 4-6 turns if you don't kill or cripple it.
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Jul 15, 2015 23:50
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PoptartsNinja posted:It could be even worse than that. Is there a fluff reason not to turn on an HPG? Pointing scheduling for a hyperpulse receiver on the other end? Some kind of power/mass expenditure? Aether deficiency? ComStar being space dicks?
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The power costs are enormous. Also Pacifica is wracked by near-constant thunderstorms so the HPG only get used on clear days when the power grid isn't going to make the capacitors explode. Also the population's tiny and poor so who has money to use the spacephone anyway?
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PoptartsNinja posted:Because I have so little concern for its safety, the Thunder is going to let me dictate the terms of the next 4-6 turns if you don't kill or cripple it. This is rough because getting good shots on it is a real pita, and with how gunnery goes on this map kicks are the only way we're going to reliably cripple something. But it's got 45 leg armor+structure. We need the return of JOHN " 'MECH" MADDEN to help us out!
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Gwaihir posted:Hm, now might be a change to get good shots on the Penetrator, it only moved two hexes. I expect it only moved two because that keeps it in long from my Gauss and the rest of you have better things to shoot at. Anyway, if you do fall back to the gorge, make sure you have a plan for the following turns that isn't "turn around to go down the hill and get wrecked with no move mod."
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Can we run underneath the bridge? e: It could have come more forward, I think it's out of LoS from you while you're still on that hill. Probably just the cautious pilot.
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You could if it wasn't waist high.
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Doh. OK that option's out!
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Another ECM question- If one of us runs ECM and the other runs ghost targets, do we get the ghost targets? Since I think the Sha Yu is running ECCM it shouldn't counter both of us, right? e: So some more options. If we want to really make an effort to knock someone down, I can run back up to 817, the cerb can back to 814 (More dangerous but more damage potential from your MPLs) or 813 (5 hexes for long MPL/medium ML range), and we can unload on the Jinggau to try and knock it over, followed up with a kick from me. I'd be shooting and getting shot on 9s, with a kick on 6. The War Dog could back to 1015 and shoot the Yu Huang on 8s. If we breach that RT, I think allll the ammo is there (Both AC20 and LRM10), and it's an XL machine. (No CASE either I think). I'd guess the Nightstar would probably want to plug the Yu Huang as well. I think we're out of options for really continuing to dance backwards while taking potshots. There's too many enemy units still up and maneuverable. Gwaihir fucked around with this message at 00:59 on Jul 16, 2015 |
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PoptartsNinja posted:You could if it wasn't waist high. What's the pilot check on mech limbo?
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+8 Wait, no, that's not quite right. +∞ ECM works in layers but you have to exceed the number of enemy ECCMs present to get an effect. If you both ghost target the same thing you'll overpower the ECCM's ability to counter your ghost targets. Angel ECM counts as two of these, or can be run in both ECM/ECCM mode simultaneously. edit: Hilariously, a unit with Stealth Armor and Angel ECM can run in ECM/ECCM mode while stealth armor is activated but the ECCM becomes hostile to and only affects the Stealth Armor unit itself. So it will gain 10 heat for running Stealth Armor without getting any of the benefits. PoptartsNinja fucked around with this message at 03:06 on Jul 16, 2015 |
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The Merry Marauder posted:I expect it only moved two because that keeps it in long from my Gauss and the rest of you have better things to shoot at. It also allows him to cover the War Dog from rushing through. The War Dog is up the creek as Gwaihir notes. He has no good option that I can see so far.
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He could back to 1015 and turn to face directly north, then torso twist to shoot the Yu Huang. Leaves him the most flexible moves for next turn. If the cerb and I tie up the Jinggau and Sha Yu he should be able to escape.
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