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Stroth posted:Hey now, there's nothing wrong with a good diablo clone. Especially one that's only 12 bucks. And the whole be an inquisitor, find evidence, arrest heretics, hold trials thing could be really interesting if it's done well. Fair enough. I didn't see anything outstanding on the site so I wondered if it had e.g. some notable names attached to its development.
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The first thing I thought of when I looked at screenshots of Inquisitor was that it looked a lot like an updated Baldur's Gate 2 engine. Then I remembered the Baldur's Gate "Enhanced" edition and I got sad 
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SolidSnakesBandana posted:The first thing I thought of when I looked at screenshots of Inquisitor was that it looked a lot like an updated Baldur's Gate 2 engine. Then I remembered the Baldur's Gate "Enhanced" edition and I got sad Why sad? Have I missed some news about the "Enhanced" edition? I was pretty excited about it when I first heard.
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Some people think it looks like poo poo graphically but I don't really see it, http://baldursgate.com/blackpits.en.html there are a few screenshots there.
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MockingQuantum posted:Why sad? Have I missed some news about the "Enhanced" edition? I was pretty excited about it when I first heard. Baldur's Gate graphics aren't bad at all, it's just that the Enhanced edition doesn't do anything that hasn't already been done by mods, and better. Those screenshots that Typhus posted are great but my game already looks like that.
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Typhus733 posted:Some people think it looks like poo poo graphically but I don't really see it, http://baldursgate.com/blackpits.en.html there are a few screenshots there. That doesn't look like poo poo, but it sure as hell doesn't seem to have been "enhanced" any.
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SolidSnakesBandana posted:Baldur's Gate graphics aren't bad at all, it's just that the Enhanced edition doesn't do anything that hasn't already been done by mods, and better. Those screenshots that Typhus posted are great but my game already looks like that. I think it's a viable update to make it stable on newer systems, but yes, it's sort of a moot point if you've picked up even the most basic of modfixes that have come out in recent years.
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How does the post-storyline content in Etrian Odyssey III compare to the second game? I was glad to see some lingering side plots resolved, but grinding characters up to fight Ur-Child has been such a goddamned slog. If there's nothing to speed it up, then it needs to be really, really good for me to bother with it.
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A wildling's elephant neuters every random encounter and you can just make a robot/ninja and solo the final boss. It grinds up fast since you can solo alarune and the dragons at about level 50, so the only real slog is farming the red FOEs on the first two strata for books.
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Even though everyone poo poo all over TWEWY ios port I got it on my iPad and I very much enjoy it. I could never get into it on DS because of the controls and just not feeling it, but I've already blown through the first week today. It makes the game much more accessible although I don't understand what kind of equipment I should aim for or if I should vary because of OMG TRENDS... I still haven't bought a single piece of equipment 
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Anyone have any thoughts on Last Remnant? I remember when it came out, I was really excited about an open world 'tactical' RPG, but then it got generally mixed reviews. Many places focusing on just how hard (in an unfair way) it was. I've nothing against hard games - Dark / Demon Souls being two of my favorite games, as long as they're fair. I also love games like Disgaea where you can do a whole bunch of option stuff and make a party of gods completely oblivious to the main storyline. Seeing Last Remnant on the last page sparked my curiosity to the game, and so I was wondering what people here generally thought about it.
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PotatoManJack posted:Anyone have any thoughts on Last Remnant? I remember when it came out, I was really excited about an open world 'tactical' RPG, but then it got generally mixed reviews. Many places focusing on just how hard (in an unfair way) it was. Last Remnant is mostly difficult in that a ton of it's systems are not documented at all. The game plays like the SaGa games in that it doesn't have a "gain experience to gain levels to get stats and skills" system. Instead you get skills by using other skills and you earn stats randomly. Once you learn the systems a bit and learn to game those systems, it gets much easier. The Last Remnant also gets unfairly difficult if you do every side quest as they are available because of how enemies scale with you. Overall, I enjoyed it but it's definitely a game that you will either love or hate.
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PotatoManJack posted:Anyone have any thoughts on Last Remnant? I remember when it came out, I was really excited about an open world 'tactical' RPG, but then it got generally mixed reviews. Many places focusing on just how hard (in an unfair way) it was. If you like SaGa gamse--Romancing SaGa, SaGa Frontier, etc.--get it. If you don't like 'em, or if you don't know what I'm talking about, stay far, far away. Dark Souls is difficult, but not opaque and arcane. SaGa is about as transparent as a cinder block.
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While we're talking SaGa games, growing up I played and loved the three Final Fantasy Legend games, i.e., SaGa I, II and III. Fun fact: FFL1 got a remake for the Wonderswan Color in Japanese. A translation patch for it can be found here. Now, I've never played any of the Romancing SaGa or Frontier games. What are the best ways to play them? Are there particularly good translation patches for RS1-3? Is the PS2 remake of RS1 worth tracking down? Should I just plow through them in chronological order? I know next to nothing about the series outside of the first three GB games, which I know like the back of my hand. I also hear that the DS FFL2 remake got a decent translation patch release, although I haven't given it a try.
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But Rocks Hurt Head posted:While we're talking SaGa games, growing up I played and loved the three Final Fantasy Legend games, i.e., SaGa I, II and III. Fun fact: FFL1 got a remake for the Wonderswan Color in Japanese. A translation patch for it can be found here. The amount of time I put into FFL2 on my Gameboy is probably in the 100s of hours. For years as a kid, I'd bring my gameboy with me on family holidays (whether by plane, train, or automobile) along with all my games, and would proceed to only play FFL2 for the entire trip. I've probably beaten that game with almost every combination of party you can think of. My favorite was 3 Robots and a Monster, and totally abusing the armour equip bug to have constant healing available. It really was such an awesome game, and the fact that mutants and humans grow randomly* in battles meant that I never wanted to skip the trash fights 'just in case'.
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Have you played the NeoFFL2 patched version of the game? Check this out: http://www.shenafu.com/ffl2/ffl2.php Relive your childhood; play the game the way it was meant to be played.
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Saga Frontier 2 is my favorite of the bunch, but I haven't really sat down and played through a lot of them. I love the setting, where magic is so ubiquitous that every kitchen knife can channel arcane power and the birth of a prince who can't use it makes waves for pretty much the entire next century. One side of the story has following the rise and fall of Gustave XIII as he rises up from his boyhood exile to rule much of the world. The other follows 3 generations of the Knights family as they explore the mysteries of the world and chase a soul stealing artifact.
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But Rocks Hurt Head posted:Now, I've never played any of the Romancing SaGa or Frontier games. What are the best ways to play them? Are there particularly good translation patches for RS1-3? Is the PS2 remake of RS1 worth tracking down? Should I just plow through them in chronological order? SaGa Frontier is an amazing, if obviously unfinished, game. The more finished quests are great, but the others are just kind of 'there'. The gameplay itself is amazing, though, and really done well. If you're gonna start, start there, and with Red's quest, as he's the most beginner friendly character due to having a rather powerful get out of trouble trump card. SaGa Frontier 2 is more complete, but is kind of schizophrenic, as its difficulty curve is all over the place. I like it a lot less than SF1, but that's just personal taste. Both are just fine to play in their original form, as they aren't too ludicrously expensive as used titles. I wish the group that was translating RS2/3 would finish up though. I'd love to get my hands on those.
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But Rocks Hurt Head posted:Now, I've never played any of the Romancing SaGa or Frontier games. What are the best ways to play them? Are there particularly good translation patches for RS1-3? Is the PS2 remake of RS1 worth tracking down? Should I just plow through them in chronological order? Romancing SaGa 1 has an official translation patch! They remade it on the PS2 and called it Minstrel Song.
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But Rocks Hurt Head posted:Now, I've never played any of the Romancing SaGa or Frontier games. What are the best ways to play them? Are there particularly good translation patches for RS1-3? Is the PS2 remake of RS1 worth tracking down? Should I just plow through them in chronological order? Romancing SaGa 1 is loving terrible and annoying as poo poo. I can cut it some slack for being really ambitious for an early SNES game, but there is just so much that is absolutely terrible about it. Next to the hot mess that is SaGa Frontier, it's probably the most unfinished game in the series. The PS2 remake is better in most ways, worse in some, but at least you don't have to constantly waste turns adjusting your formation because you bumped into an enemy the wrong way! Romancing SaGa 2 is a much, much better game, but it is still a SaGa game and thus has so many glaring imperfections that are hard to overlook. It's easier to find things to do, the game lays out your overall goal much more clearly, and the quests tend to have a lot of different ways they can play out, and that's really neat. But, you know, there's no translation patch for it, and, well, you really don't wanna try diving into it in a language you don't understand. If a translation patch does eventually come out, yeah, you should totally get on it.
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PotatoManJack posted:Anyone have any thoughts on Last Remnant? I remember when it came out, I was really excited about an open world 'tactical' RPG, but then it got generally mixed reviews. Many places focusing on just how hard (in an unfair way) it was. Effectively it's a SaGa game where you control armies instead of discrete units, and the battle system changes accordingly - you have to understand the game's (slightly arcane) system in order to do well, which involves pinning enemy units with your own and then flanking them. It's very open - you'll only see maybe 25% of the world map if you go on a straight shot through the plot. Instead, you're encouraged to explore and find sidequests or hunt through random areas to expand your list of locations. I think it's a game solidly worth getting if you even vaguely like SaGa games, but if you get it make absolutely sure you get it on PC rather than on 360. The requirements to run the game are pretty low, and in return you get a significantly less masochistic play experience. Most notably the original game only let you use a small number of the named and important characters in your roster - PC version lets you fill your army out with them. They also fixed stat progression, in as much as it was pretty easy to gimp yourself on the 360 by raising your battle rank too quickly.
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flyboi posted:Even though everyone poo poo all over TWEWY ios port I got it on my iPad and I very much enjoy it. I could never get into it on DS because of the controls and just not feeling it, but I've already blown through the first week today. It makes the game much more accessible although I don't understand what kind of equipment I should aim for or if I should vary because of OMG TRENDS... People complained it was too expensive ($18 for iPhone, $20 for iPad and neither is universal) but anyone that bought it says it's actually a really good port. High resolution compared to the crappy DS screen with graphics updated to match and the music is actual music instead of garbled stuff. If it goes one sale I'll pick it up for sure but at $18 with no new gameplay content I can pass.
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But Rocks Hurt Head posted:Have you played the NeoFFL2 patched version of the game? Have you gone through the whole thing yet? How much better is it? I sank a lot of hours into this, but that was years ago. Still got to get through Dragon Quest V, VI and FF4, so I don't see myself picking this up for a long time. If the controls hold up on touch screen, it might be one to get through on the new Nexus 7 though. 
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Rangpur posted:How does the post-storyline content in Etrian Odyssey III compare to the second game? I was glad to see some lingering side plots resolved, but grinding characters up to fight Ur-Child has been such a goddamned slog. EO3's post game content is really good. If you don't know the Pasaran trick, there's a huge slog from levels 70 to 100. But if you do know it you can slingshot through those levels pretty crazy fast. It's actually not that hard to figure out either, you can probably do it on your own with a little planning. OneDeadman posted:The Last Remnant also gets unfairly difficult if you do every side quest as they are available because of how enemies scale with you. This is not true actually, side quest completion has no effect on the game difficulty with the exception of the final boss (and that one is pretty complicated). The trick to beating the level scaling casually in The Last Remnant is pretty simple: - If the enemies are stronger than you, always fight them. - If the enemies are weaker than you, never fight them. You can fight similar strength enemies depending on your feeling at the time. Generally if you follow the pattern above you'll end up needing to fight most similar strength enemies anyway since you'll be kind of under-ranked at points. But yeah the PC version of the game isn't really that hard overall, you don't need to worry about it too much.
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Gwyrgyn Blood posted:But yeah the PC version of the game isn't really that hard overall, you don't need to worry about it too much. Can't you basically make your whole team out of Leaders in the PC version? As someone who played the console version this blows my mind, it seems like it would make the whole game trivial.
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Props to S-Alpha for sending me Cross Edge for the cost of shipping, and also throwing in The Last Rebellion for the delay. I am now going to lock myself in a room and see which of us dies first, the PS3, the games themselves, or me.
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Yeah, you don't need the generic troops at all in the PC version. They rebalanced the fights to make up for this though so it really doesn't make as much of a difference as you'd think. The changes to the Rank mechanics are more of what made the game easier really. In the 360 version there is this horrible thing where your Rank scales up relatively faster if you fight more than one group of enemies at a time. Meaning, if you want to keep Rank as low as possible, you have to fight enemy groups one at a time. It was so awful.
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Syrg Sapphire posted:Props to S-Alpha for sending me Cross Edge for the cost of shipping, and also throwing in The Last Rebellion for the delay. That sentence is fantastic. The idea of someone actually getting props for doing that doubly so. My offer to sperg the gently caress out over Cross Edge mechanics is still available. Also, use Aurica, she is absolutely necessary for your team to be as good as it can be. Gwyrgyn Blood posted:Meaning, if you want to keep Rank as low as possible, you have to fight enemy groups one at a time. It was so awful. If I remember right, the PC version is literally the opposite, as a huge chain of fights would give you an almost certain chance of gaining stats while only bumping your rank once. Stelas fucked around with this message at 20:58 on Sep 4, 2012 |
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Syrg Sapphire posted:Props to S-Alpha for sending me Cross Edge for the cost of shipping, and also throwing in The Last Rebellion for the delay. Are you sure he doesn't want you dead or something like that?
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Syrg Sapphire posted:Props to S-Alpha for sending me Cross Edge for the cost of shipping, and also throwing in The Last Rebellion for the delay. Wow, did you kill someone's pet or something?
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Syrg Sapphire posted:Props to S-Alpha for sending me Cross Edge for the cost of shipping, and also throwing in The Last Rebellion for the delay. Why are you giving me props? I did something cruel and evil to you, and you're praising me for it? Sheesh. And, for the record, he wanted Cross Edge so bad, he was willing to pay me actual money beyond the cost of shipping. Somethin' be wrong with this boy. ACES CURE PLANES fucked around with this message at 23:04 on Sep 4, 2012 |
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Papercut posted:Can't you basically make your whole team out of Leaders in the PC version? As someone who played the console version this blows my mind, it seems like it would make the whole game trivial. That's right, in PC Last Remnant you can put anyone you want into parties. I think they increased the difficulty to make up for this though. It also means that you never need to use those troop characters you get in Athlum. Those guys confused the hell out of me when I first played, I couldn't figure out why on earth you'd want to use these non-entity troops rather than your cool recruited party members. This does mean that some pieces of equipment become useless (Yama Greataxes and Qsiti Shortswords) since no "leader" units use them. Unless you use the semi-hack that let's you equip your party members manually, then everything's fair game.
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Stelas posted:My offer to sperg the gently caress out over Cross Edge mechanics is still available. Also, use Aurica, she is absolutely necessary for your team to be as good as it can be. Hit me, I wanna hear all I can about this, min-maxing is my poo poo. S-Alpha posted:Why are you giving me props? I did something cruel and evil to you, and you're praising me for it? Sheesh. Man that's just good manners + you were still saving me crazy amounts of money on it. I never see it drop below $20 used on Amazon or anywhere because of that goddamn niche JRPG tax sellers impose. "There are only like 20 copies of this around, it's GOTTA be worth more, what do you mean it loving blows"
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BadAstronaut posted:Have you gone through the whole thing yet? How much better is it? I sank a lot of hours into this, but that was years ago. Not the whole thing. There's a pretty extensive changelog and the balancing feels great, but I've only made it through the first half of the game or so. Anytime I play FFL2 I have the compulsion to just grind and grind and grind for random stats. I have a GB emulator on my phone and it's such a great 5-minute time waster of a series. FFL1 is my favorite, though, probably because it was one of the first video games I ever owned and played to completion. I've even done solo runs with each character type, including a solo monster (you have to use the Saw glitch, of course). Thanks for the comments on the rest of the SaGa series, folks. I'm eager to dig into Frontier.
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dis astranagant posted:Saga Frontier 2 is my favorite of the bunch, but I haven't really sat down and played through a lot of them. I love the setting, where magic is so ubiquitous that every kitchen knife can channel arcane power and the birth of a prince who can't use it makes waves for pretty much the entire next century. One side of the story has following the rise and fall of Gustave XIII as he rises up from his boyhood exile to rule much of the world. The other follows 3 generations of the Knights family as they explore the mysteries of the world and chase a soul stealing artifact. Is there anything I should know going into SF2? I just picked it up and I remember being rather confused about abilities and feeling like I was always missing something when I played way back when.
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SSJ Reeko posted:Is there anything I should know going into SF2? I just picked it up and I remember being rather confused about abilities and feeling like I was always missing something when I played way back when. More generally, you want to keep the two storylines roughly parallel because there are points in the story where you'll be stuck using characters from both. Also, there's a battle at the conclusion of each that's complete bullshit, so don't enter the last dungeon until you've done all the grinding you need. For all that, it's still the most polished, and most accessible game in the series overall. I regret selling my copy back in the day. The first Saga Frontier, not so much. Y'all are way nicer to that one than it deserves. It's 4/7ths of a good game at best.
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To be fair, you can go through the vast majority of SF2 blind. It's not a terribly difficult game til the end. The simplest bit of advice I can give is to look out for Land Urchins, Horn Buffalo, Armor Beetles and blue Skeletons in the early scenarios. They're vicious (especially the last 2) but are about as good for learning new skills as endgame monsters (especially the last one). Don't be afraid to grind a bit in Wil's first scenario, getting a few good arts really makes a difference and Wil is in the final party. You have unlimited access to resting up in the bar until you open one of the chests that triggers the end of the mission (One's behind the blue skeleton and the other 2 are down the other path from him).
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Syrg Sapphire posted:Hit me, I wanna hear all I can about this, min-maxing is my poo poo. I've PMmed it along, because it was honestly too big and too embarrassing an amount of words even for this thread. Now I'm busy wondering what I've been doing with my life.
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