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One's story was interesting, it's the first one to really start raising some of these questions that would have been asked all along if the game wasn't so focused on 'MURDER ROADTRIP with adorable sidekick Mikhail.' One obviously knows more than the others (except possibly Zero herself) and I'm interested in seeing if anything else important gets revealed in their confrontation. Maybe we'll even get to fight one of the sisters for once. Pimpmust posted:So has anyone else noticed that dude in the middle that the five sisters seem to be summoning? I've been wondering about that for awhile now. But given what we know about the first game, I'd have to say the question is, are they Summoning or Sealing? Though I suspect most of the answers and general weird poo poo will get saved for the alternate endings since that seems to be the trend.
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Zero begot one. One begot two. Two begot three. And three begot the ten thousand things. Cythereal posted:I can't say I care very much, because I can barely remember any of the Intoner sisters. This route at least, they're introduced, given a quick gimmick, and killed off shortly after that. Not the stuff of memorable characters, though maybe later routes will change that.  I have a feeling we aren't actually anywhere near done...
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TDI said we're almost at the end of the game's first route with only a few missions left.
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Internet Kraken posted:TDI said we're almost at the end of the game's first route with only a few missions left. That doesn't mean we're almost done. This is the guy who made Nier.
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Oh, great. So the Intoners actually *did* make the world a paradise. That's... That's just great. Nice work, Zero. Something tells me One figured out what the hell was going on on the way to the big throw down and it may have broken her. Song of the world's end and all.
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Probably worth mentioning One's story also implies the reason she doesn't keep a disciple is due to her ultra-hypersensitivity. Forget any kind of physical intimacy, just being in the same room with someone is a barrage on her senses. I've always liked the touch of Two being considerate though. Given her lively but naive personality, you'd kind of assume she'd be the one to bound in with no idea how much trouble she's causing, so I like that she actually gives her sister's condition some thought and takes care not to make things worse.
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Chokes McGee posted:Oh, great. So the Intoners actually *did* make the world a paradise. That's... That's just great. Nice work, Zero. Except for those dissidents who had to be suppressed with lots of collateral damage. One's story really shows the world is only a "paradise" if you take intoner-propaganda at face value.
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Libluini posted:Except for those dissidents who had to be suppressed with lots of collateral damage. One's story really shows the world is only a "paradise" if you take intoner-propaganda at face value. quote:The lord of the Land of Seas had more power than the others; she and the rabble that flocked to her were at the center of wealth and power of every kind. So of course they were going to hate us for taking it all away. Of course, they themselves had leeched it away from their own people, so it was silly for them to accuse us of taking anything. In any case, their land had more troublemakers than the others by far. I had expected Five to have her hands full keeping them in line, but my fears were apparently misplaced. Pretty sure the dissidents were the remnants of the previous Lord's armies and the nobles that had benefited from their regimes, the previous Lords being a bunch of massive dicks that deserved to be removed from power. (If there are still soldiers loyal to them fighting or the nobles rebel because they're going to lose out on their plunder under the new regime that is unfortunate but they can't just allow a revolution to occur.) The collateral damage was a complete accident which they did their best to avoid, but unfortunately, it is almost impossible to prevent all of it during a war. Since these are One's own personal thoughts, there is no reason to believe that she is propagandizing to herself. Have you considered that One, may have in fact, did nothing wrong? 
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Kaislioc posted:Have you considered that One, may have in fact, did nothing wrong? At least, not knowingly. Drakengard! after all.  I would be unsurprised to find out that the Intoners think they're doing the right thing but are instead perpetuating something else's plans. Or they exist just to be vessels in which to grow power, and whatever is running things gives not two fucks how that power is used. Just as long as Zero comes along and kills the other five to gather the now enormous power into one vessel. The theory being that the final amount of power can't be grown in one vessel because, as we see with Two, especially, one vessel cannot contain it long enough to get to whatever level required. So you instead split it up and have parts of it grow to a specific strength so that when they're combined via copious application of  you get the desired final power level.Basically, I'm saying that the Intoners are probably just pawns. Likely Zero included, knowing this series.
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BattleCattle posted:If Zero's represented in the center, then the flower seems to be symbolically separate. What's with the flower, anyway? It seems like a weird and major thing to include it in the tapestry, especially since it's not there in the beginning, it only replaces her eye after she gets wounded. Or did she do her flower-power-regeneration before that?
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Pierzak posted:What's with the flower, anyway? It seems like a major thing to include it in the tapestry, especially since it's not there in the beginning, it only replaces her eye after she gets wounded. Or did she do her flower-power-regeneration before that? It's a really pretty way to fill up the empty space down at the bottom. 
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Pierzak posted:What's with the flower, anyway? It seems like a weird and major thing to include it in the tapestry, especially since it's not there in the beginning, it only replaces her eye after she gets wounded. Or did she do her flower-power-regeneration before that? It's clearly a symbol of the Intoners' high sex drive. Or maybe the five of them had a basketball team called the Intoner Flowers.
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Apr 30, 2015 19:11
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ApplesandOranges posted:It's clearly a symbol of the Intoners' high sex drive. Flower Jam 
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The flower is a weird unexplained thing for us and apparently the disciples too, but the Intoners may know exactly what it is and it just hasn't been brought up yet, along with many other things I'm waiting to see an explanation for.
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 Mikhail, you're an adorable big goofy tool of destruction. But for gently caress SAKE you are AWOL more than a handful of times. Now that we're reaching the end of our journey, let's take a look back on the many excuses the game has given for Mikhail not to help in battle. Parameters for Mikhail's attendance are he can be summoned and/or ridden in battle during the course of a mission. Showing up the last five minutes while otherwise a no-show does not count. Only appearing in campfire scenes or cutscenes does not count. Being off screen and only phoning home to chatter with Intoner mom does not count. Geography is no excuse.   Verse 1: To the Seas  Oh. There's my dragon.Verse 2: The Cove- NO SHOW  Destroying a battleship is really hard, Zero. Really, really hard! Verse 3: The Ocean Ruin - TARDY I went through all that and you STILL haven't destroyed that goddamn battleship?! I was saving it for you!Verse 4: The Ocean Ruin Oh. There's my dragon.  Verse 1 - Cliffside Path  Your dumb dragon is right over there.Verse 2: Deliberations Your dumb dragon is right over there. Heh. Nice work with that bridge, ace.Verse 3: Reign of Fire Uhh...? You're riding the thing, Z. I'm sitting this one out.Verse 4: Snowbound - TARDY Well I was flying around the mountains and it was really, REALLY snowy and then I met this weird dragon and th-- Enough excuses! I've been freezing my rear end off. ...Hey that other dragon never did come up again, did it? Weird. Nor will it ever.Verse 5: Repetition Your dumb dragon is right there.Verse 6: Wyverns and Four I'm not going anywhere when there are dirty, stinkin' wyverns to kill! Buncha low, class greasy layabouts!   Verse 1 - Kill 'Em All! - NO SHOW  The airship exploded, Zero! It got blown out of the sky and I got turned around! <twitch> Do. Not. Remind. Me.Verse 2: Trolled - TARDY Zero I got stuck in the vines! Get me down! Get me doooown!Verse 3: Lost in the Woods  My Lady, Mikhail is right here.Verse 4: Three's Riddles - NO SHOW <SHITS OUT THE MASS OF A BABY ELEPHANT> Oh... Uhh... Huh... Hehehe. <sigh> Moving on...Verse 5: The Lost Forest - NO SHOW Hey Zero, look in the river. It's another drag-aaaaaaaaaah! <falls into a river> <shrug> Meh.Verse 6: Three - TARDY Zeeeeero! I got caught in the vines! They caught me again! .....  Verse 1: To the Sands - NO SHOW  Trivia time--who kidnapped the mighty Zero's horrid dragon? <double thumb snap> This guy! And did you know the sound a thumb snapping makes is actually a very, very low level fire spell setting off for just an instant? Really?! That's amazing! Don't listen to that idiot, dummy.Verse 2: Violators - NO SHOW That's not fair, Zero. It's underground! I can't fit underground! Then how did you get into the overgrown tree and stuck in there back in Three's dump? Umm... That's what I thought. No excuses!Verse 3: Hell on Earth - NO SHOW There was an invisible song wall over the area! It was really there! Honest! That's funny, I remember Two drooling and having less between her ears than you last I checked. Well maybe it wasn't there the whole time. I had to find a good spot to go po-- Enough!Verse 4: Two and Cent  At least it's not a total zero at bat. Not that I'd mind seeing that anytime... Ho ho ho!***** And that about brings us up to speed. I'll update this in the future. Mikhail isn't done playing hooky. While we're in the neighborhood discussing our dopey dragon sidekick, let's take a quick look at Mikhail's cosmetic DLC! Mikhail gets three pieces of headwear priced at $1.00 a pop to sport into battle. First up we have a NIER throwback: Experimental Weapon Headwear  They thought the explosion killed him. They were wrong. Now he's back and out for... a good time! Emil and Mikhail team up for the feel good buddy cop film you've all been waiting for! If that's too cheerful for you, we can go darker with our next accessory: Tokyo Tower Headwear  Too soon... Last, but certainly not least, we have perhaps the most ridiculous of the trio: Beautiful Child Headwear  I bet if he could, Caim would have been happy to mount a Grotesquerie head as a hood ornament for that jet he tamed over the skies of Tokyo after being shot down. Unlike Zero's alternate outfits, these are all just for funsies for people that have little need of an extra dollar. Anyway, that's about it for Mikhail business I wrote up to kill time waiting for work related garbage. Time well spent. The Dark Id fucked around with this message at 20:31 on Apr 30, 2015 |
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The Dark Id posted:Last, but certainly not least, we have perhaps the most ridiculous of the trio: Beautiful Child Headwear This was also a bonus for people who bought the collector's edition of the game. The advertisement for which referred to it as "GIANT BABY HAT". 
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Apr 30, 2015 20:08
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I bought the Emil head DLC. No regrets, best dollar I ever spent.
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I think you have a broken tag under the picture of Five, TDI. Those DLC items are totally lovely, but they're just sort of right. I think Cent was telling the truth though.
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I bought all the DLC since I'm a crazy rear end in a top hat, but I always get a kick out of having the Beautiful Child Headwear. And man, Mikhail sure went missing a loving ton.
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Can't help but note the ruined modern day city you seem to be flying around in in those screenshots, TDI 
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Captain Oblivious posted:Can't help but note the ruined modern day city you seem to be flying around in in those screenshots, TDI Those are official images from the advertising.
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Captain Oblivious posted:Can't help but note the ruined modern day city you seem to be flying around in in those screenshots, TDI Perfect timing as it's about time for round 2 in the ruins of Not-Spain.
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Captain Oblivious posted:Can't help but note the ruined modern day city you seem to be flying around in in those screenshots, TDI Go back to the second update. Cathedral city ain't looking to pretty.
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Captain Oblivious posted:Can't help but note the ruined modern day city you seem to be flying around in in those screenshots, TDI I'm pretty sure it's just Not-Spain which is where One lives and will likely be the final area since we've done the rest. Also the table of contents in the OP says Chapter 5: Cathedral City so there's that.
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I will scream if it turns out DG3 is a sequel to DG1 and then Nier after all through some kind of recursive timeloop
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Apr 30, 2015 20:37
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Big dumb baby dragon, best dumb baby dragon 
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DeafNote posted:I will scream if it turns out DG3 is a sequel to DG1 and then Nier after all Of course it's a sequel! It has a 3 on the end and everything!
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The Dark Id posted:Verse 4: Snowbound - TARDY Assuming it's really true that this won't pop up again, maybe we're meant to assume that Mikhail saw his own reflection on a patch of ice? It's not obvious at the time, but after the next chapter where he throws himself into a river for exactly that reason, we know he's really that dumb.
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Apr 30, 2015 20:57
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The little ribbons tying on the headgear is the best part.
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W.T. Fits posted:This was also a bonus for people who bought the collector's edition of the game. The advertisement for which referred to it as "GIANT BABY HAT". Or better yet, doing what I did and preordering the collectors edition. Get the hats, and a few Drakengard/Nier throw back outfits. The perfect accessory for all your rip and tearing needs~! 
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scorpiobean posted:Big dumb baby dragon, best dumb baby dragon
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Brainamp posted:Go back to the second update. Cathedral city ain't looking to pretty. I didn't remember it looking so modern. Whaddya know!
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I think Tokyo Tower really is Darth Yoko's favorite achievement out of the entire list of poo poo he's pulled on us over the years. There's no other explanation for why he loves trolling us with callbacks to it.
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Derek Barona posted:I think Tokyo Tower really is Darth Yoko's favorite achievement out of the entire list of poo poo he's pulled on us over the years. There's no other explanation for why he loves trolling us with callbacks to it. It's a pretty good jape, to be honest.
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YeOldeButchere posted:Assuming it's really true that this won't pop up again, maybe we're meant to assume that Mikhail saw his own reflection on a patch of ice? It's not obvious at the time, but after the next chapter where he throws himself into a river for exactly that reason, we know he's really that dumb. Of course, if it were true, I doubt it would have been brought up again. So, take that as you will.
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Hey now, he didn't throw himself in the river. His big, dumb, baby dragon butt broke the bridge.
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YeOldeButchere posted:Assuming it's really true that this won't pop up again, maybe we're meant to assume that Mikhail saw his own reflection on a patch of ice? It's not obvious at the time, but after the next chapter where he throws himself into a river for exactly that reason, we know he's really that dumb. Nega-Earth is lousy with dragons, so it's actually possible he ran into a random dragon. Dragons generally stay away from human settlements, so that's why they are rarely seen.
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Suzaku posted:At least, not knowingly. Drakengard! after all. Given all the talk about Intoners constantly growing in power and in other ways as well as Zero stating she's getting less human, it's probably just a matter of time before any of them turn into horrible monstrosities. Zero's murder spree is nipping that in the bud, I guess. On an unrelated note, I love Mikhail's headgear enough to forgive his disappearances. The idea of him and Emile having wacky adventures is hilarious. Sure, it'd probably end with them rendering about half of a country an uninhabitable wasteland, but still.
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Pimpmust posted:
The Intoners are big fans of Babylon 5 and are trying to bring the show back for more seasons. 
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Archenteron posted:The Intoners are big fans of Babylon 5 and are trying to bring the show back for more seasons.  I was thinking this. They're summoning him in his moment of triumph. No thermal exhaust port will blow hot air in his victory.
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