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friendo55 posted:Thank you! haha I'll take a look at this. From what I can see, it seems that there's some confusion as to what version is actually on that Universal DVD, with that 132min cut being the American Theatrical cut, rather than the 142min European Theatrical, or the 142min Director's Cut which is a slightly alternate version of the European Theatrical version. But at least it's not the Studio-94min version. Though imdb even says that "The Universal "bare-bones" DVD contains only the longer version (though it is misidentified on the DVD cover as the American cut)." Hopefully that is the case, but I've only ever seen the Director's Cut so I can't say for sure if the US Theatrical version is a vastly different film, so if anyone knows for sure, and if it's best to hold out to see the Director's Cut, then that'd be helpful. From what I can see, the American Theatrical version isn't ruined like the Studio Cut, it's just a bit different, but unless anyone knows for sure, I'd say go with it if there's no chance to see the Director's Cut handily.
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Does anyone even sell the ridiculous studio cut outside of the extra disc in the Criterion set? All the ones over two hours achieve the same effect with a bunch of niggling differences. I think you're fine.
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RandallODim check out Tokyo Story. Ozu's films have never really clicked with me but are generally held very high and it is the only one on your list of seen so hopefully you get alot from it. _____________________________ CopywrightMMXI gave me The Untouchables. Which was good fun. Alot more fun than I thought, I figured it'd be more of a serious crime drama period piece but instead it's a surprisingly light-hearted rather brief feeling film. There's almost no police work involved, and very little charactarisation even, the film just quickly moves from one scene to the next progressing matters in a rather satisfying fashion. The plot just kinda jumps along which is a little bit jarring at the timeline suggested feels different to the film, where if it was told everything happened in a few weeks it wouldn't incorrect. There isn't much the film does wrong, it's a fine enjoyable film. And Sean Connery was actually very good, partly because he was the only character with any suggested depth, and his supposedly terrible Irish accent was virtually non-existent, which is good, though it's a shame that he didn't get to sing in this... And seeing as I've now reached 20 films, I'm stealing Nolanar's top five films in bold feature. (though I'm only doing three for now...) List of Shame: 1 - Dreams - One of the few Kurosawa films I've not seen, not a fan of anthology films. 2 - A Prophet - Heard almost nothing but good things about this, and prison films are usually interesting. 3 - Ronin - It was February's CineD Movie of the Month, never really caught my attention but apparently good? 4 - The Host - South Korean monster movie. teenage love triangle featuring a monster based on the novel by Stephenie Meyer. 5 - Glory to the Filmmaker! - A Kitano comedy... but hopefully it follows on more from Takeshis' than harking back to Getting Any? [Catching up with Kitano 1/4] 6 - The Player - I've only seen one Altman film, The Long Goodbye, figure I should see a more typical film of his, & a Hollywood setting will be interesting too. 7 - Assault on Precinct 13 - Interesting premise & got a good interesting review earlier in the thread too. 8 - Haywire - Another apparently solid action flick, Soderbergh is usually realiable and entertaining in genre mode. 9 - Glengarry Glen Ross - Standard modern classic. Always tried to avoid info on this despite the references everywhere, just never got around to watching it. 10- The Seventh Seal - new - Finally, I'll be able to fully appreciate Bill & Ted's Bogus Journey and Last Action Hero. Shame No More: [20] [top three] Psycho | The Third Man | The Long Goodbye | Harakiri | The Silence of the Lambs | Pi | Jaws | Panic Room | Black Swan | Star Trek II | The Brothers Bloom | Hugo | Badlands | Shame | LA Confidential | The Right Stuff | The Evil Dead | Hanna | The Master | The Untouchables Chewy Bitems fucked around with this message at 14:11 on Jun 10, 2013 |
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Chewy Bitems posted:From what I can see, the American Theatrical version isn't ruined like the Studio Cut, it's just a bit different, but unless anyone knows for sure, I'd say go with it if there's no chance to see the Director's Cut handily. Magic Hate Ball posted:Does anyone even sell the ridiculous studio cut outside of the extra disc in the Criterion set? All the ones over two hours achieve the same effect with a bunch of niggling differences. I think you're fine. Thanks guys - I'll hopefully get to this strange US-directors cut sometime this week!
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Chewy Bitems, you get Glengarry Glen Ross. The Thing is probably my favorite dog movie now. Everything about this movie is good. Kurt Russell and John Carpenter are magic together. The effects hold up surprisingly well for their age. The premise is good for creating tension between the crew of the research station and everyone seems to genuinely fear everyone else. I wasn't expecting to see Keith David and Wilford Brimley in this, but they were also great. I loved this movie. The List: 1. Oklahoma!: I am not big on musicals at all but I live in Oklahoma and have been told that it is some kind of crime against humanity that I haven't seen this. 2. Léon: The Professional: I think this is about an assassin or something. 3. The Conversation: The last John Cazale movie I haven't seen. NEW 4. Aguirre: The Wrath of God: Maybe I'll work through Ebert's Great Movies, maybe I won't. Either way, this is on there. 5. Shane: Another essential western. 6. Badlands: I watched The Tree of Life recently and I gotta get me some more Malick. 7. North Dallas Forty: I've been told that this is the best football movie ever made. I like football and movies. 8. The King's Speech: I borrowed this from the library a few weeks ago but the DVD was scratched and gave out halfway through. I liked what I did see, though. 9. Miller's Crossing: There's still a few Coen brothers movies I haven't gotten to yet. 10. Planet of the Apes: This came up in a Mad Men episode recently. Watched (32): Goodfellas, Rear Window, Rashomon, The Searchers, Lawrence of Arabia, American Psycho, The Usual Suspects, L.A. Confidential, Unforgiven, Once Upon a Time in America, Blue Velvet, Schindler's List, Vertigo, First Blood, The Sting, Annie Hall, Twelve Monkeys, The Deer Hunter, Rain Man, Chinatown, Glengarry Glen Ross, Patton, Brazil, Casino, Scanners, Black Swan, Superman, Spartacus, The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance, Seven Samurai, Double Indemnity, The Thing
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Alfred P. Pseudonym, I normally don't like giving the film that was just added but Aguirre, the Wrath of God is easily in my top 5 favorite films and a strong contender for the number one spot. Have you seen any Herzog before? Anyway, I hope you like it. Rio Bravo took a little while to settle in for me but once it did I really enjoyed it. It's a very simple film but something about it sticks out that I can't quite put my finger on. All the characters are superb, especially Dude. And of course there had to be a duet between Martin and Nelson. The more John Wayne I see the more my opinion on him improves. My List: Jules et Jim - Started to watch this about a year ago but I was really tired so I took a nap instead. Never got back to it. (Added 10/5/2012) L'Age D'or - Some early Bunuel. I think Dali was involved with this too so I'm on board. (Added 3/11/2013) The Grapes of Wrath - I should probably go for a classic western given the discussion, but I'm gonna go with a different John Ford film. (Added 3/15/2013) Strike - I've loved the Eisenstein I've seen so far. (Added 3/19/2013) Tokyo Story - Highest on the TSPDT Top 1000 that I haven't seen. Make me cry, Ozu! (Added 4/24/2013) Stroszek - Dedicating a spot to all the films that I own on DVD but still haven't seen. Picked up the Anchor Bay Herzog sets awhile ago and I still haven't watched all of them. (Added 5/1/2013) Triumph of the Will - I find propaganda fascinating and I've never seen anything by Riefenstahl. So about time I see the most notorious propaganda film ever made. (Added 5/1/2013) Once Upon a Time in Anatolia - I use Criticker's "remembered films" tool and my list has grown to over 200 movies. Going to try and start chipping into it from the ones that have been there the longest. I have no idea what this is about but I've heard great things. (Added 5/17/2013) Gone With the Wind - I always forget about this one for some reason. Also it's four hours long. (Added 5/25/2013) Titanic - I used to be obsessed with the Titanic as a kid, but I was too young to see this when it came out. My mom was worried about the nudity. Maybe I should cover my eyes when that scene happens for the full "protective mother" movie experience. (Added 6/11/2013) Watched: Harold and Maude; The Third Man; Inland Empire; Godzilla; Big Trouble In Little China; Y Tu Mamá También; Marathon Man; Hunger; A Woman Is A Woman; Black Narcissus; A Hard Day's Night; Scarface; Le Doulos; On The Waterfront; Rocky; 3 Women; Airplane!; Duck Soup; Clash of the Titans; Singin' In The Rain; The Cow; Straw Dogs; Stop Making Sense; Bad Timing; Once Upon A Time In America; Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade; Robocop; Shane; WALL·E; The 36th Chamber Of Shaolin; The Man Who Fell To Earth; Mr. Smith Goes To Washington; Divorce Italian Style; Some Like It Hot; To Kill A Mockingbird; An American Werewolf In London; Buffalo '66; Lawrence Of Arabia; Manhattan; Cul-De-Sac; The Birth of a Nation; Braveheart; Sex, Lies, and Videotape; Malcolm X; Ghost Dog: The Way of the Samurai; The Passion of Joan of Arc; The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King; Le Samouraï; The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance; Marat/Sade; His Girl Friday; A Woman Under the Influence; Close Encounters of the Third Kind; Rio Bravo (TOTAL: 54)
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TrixRabbi posted:Alfred P. Pseudonym, I normally don't like giving the film that was just added but Aguirre, the Wrath of God is easily in my top 5 favorite films and a strong contender for the number one spot. Have you seen any Herzog before? Anyway, I hope you like it. I've only seen Grizzly Man out of his works so I'm excited to start with a new big name director.
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I remember picking out Aguirre to watch from my university's DVD library because 1) of the unique title and 2) it was one of the first movies listed alphabetically on Ebert's Great Movies list. Still to this day, a drat good decision on my part.
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TrixRabbi posted:Triumph of the Will - I find propaganda fascinating and I've never seen anything by Riefenstahl. So about time I see the most notorious propaganda film ever made. (Added 5/1/2013) Try this one next. Miller's Crossing - Tom Reagan is a master manipulator and a character like this is not typically the protagonist in a film. Usually this guy would be portrayed more as a villain lurking in the background. This film has such an absurdly bleak view concerning civics that it fits in well. Caspar is a pretty funny guy and he's always talking about being given the "high-hat." I think I'm going to incorporate that word into my vernacular. The scene where Leo escapes the house and goes on his Tommy Gun rampage was kind of impressive. I had a feeling that Tom was going to let Bernie go in the woods. I saw most of the surprises and twists coming but it was still a pretty good film. It felt really long for some reason but it clocks in at under two hours. PS Marcia Gay Harden reminds me of Alecia Beth Moore AKA Pink. also watched: Casino Royale - This was pretty straightforward and ordinary for a Bond appearance. The episode did follow the basic formula for Bond films to come except that Bond himself is American and not British. Peter Lorre plays the villain all right. Another difference is that Bond and his spy friend come across as a little amateurish and panicky (and even whiny near the end when Valerie Mathis divulges a secret). It's a stark contrast with the typical calm and decisive character I've seen in some of the films. I can't say it was that great but it feels like you're watching a film from an alternate universe so there's some novelty. Also, it's somewhat interesting in that it was a live production. Academy Award for Best Picture (80/85 completed): 1936 The Great Ziegfeld - A slightly less boring title for a biopic. 3/22/13 1933 Cavalcade - Some call this the worst Best Picture winner. A 6.2 rating on IMDb kind of backs that up. 5/4/13 1931 Cimarron - It has the lowest IMDb rating (6.0) of any Best Picture winner. 5/10/13 Procrastination (53 completed): #46 Any Steven Seagal film - I've never seen one of these and I'm not sure where to start. 4/6/13 #54 The Philadelphia Story - I read the basic plot and it sounds very similar to "His Girl Friday." Seeing as how that was the worst I've seen from this thread I can't say I'm excited. 5/28/13 #55 Shadows - Early Cassavetes film. 5/28/13 #56 An American Werewolf in London - This should interest me. 5/28/13 new #58 Yankee Doodle Dandy - Been recommended in the past 6/12/13 James Herbert Bond versus James Tiberius Kirk: new Dr. No - I saw this one ~20 years ago on VHS. I remember most of it but not the ending for some reason. 6/12/13 Star Trek: The Motion Picture - I've seen a couple of the Star Trek films but I should watch them all in chronological order of release I guess. I was a fan of TNG as a kid and probably saw 15-20% of the shows. I revisited the show later and it was still good. I also saw some of the original series from the 60s and I vividly remember Kirk fighting a lizard man. I tried some of the other TV series and couldn't get into them at all. 6/8/13
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Zogo I'll give you Shadows. I've never seen it, but I hope you will enjoy it regardless. I'm not giving up on the SHAMEFUL challenge this time or, so help me God, I'll never come back to it again. Manhattan - I've seen clips of this. Seems like Woody Allen's best and I am looking forward to this one the most Fox and His Friends - When I first saw Ali: Fear Eats The Soul I found it boring. Up until lately it has had a slow-burn effect and I want to see more Fassbinder The Piano Teacher - Don't know much about this, except I heard it will be pretty memorable In a Lonely Place - Bogey's career had so many hits. I'm getting a good emotional vibe from this one Morvern Callar - Doesn't seem to have classic status, but Lynne Ramsay hasn't steered me wrong in her other two films Deep Red - Some good ol' night time gore. Gotta love Giallo Millennium Actress - The other film Kon did that I saw was about an actress. I heard this is even better and I can't grasp the idea of that Mona Lisa - This was on Dennis Lehane's top 10 criterion movies and he seems like a tough guy to please, so hopefully this will be excellent L'Avventura - Antonioni is my favorite director and I haven't even seen a lot of his movies. I'm too excited Dogville - Best place to start with Lars Von Trier? Unsure, but I'll put it on the list regardless. He defiantly likes to make long movies
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bleeding pebbles you get Manhattan. I haven't seen it either, but I have seen Annie Hall, which was made around the same time, and I found that movie to be very enjoyable. _____________________________________________________ I guess I'm recommending a movie about New York because I just finished John Carpenter's 1981 classic Escape from New York. I found this to be a fun movie, but it seemed a little too low budget at times. The premise is interesting, with New York being turned into a Supermax prison. The premise is established with a bit of voiceover at the beginning, but it's effective enough and communicates to the audience that this is a dystopian future. The president gets trapped in the city due to a plane crash, and the government recruits thief Snake Pliskken to rescue him. It's nothing too earth-shattering with the plot, and we really don't have any twists or turns. It's straightforward, but we're really just exploring the idea of a guy breaking into a prison and seeing the society that prisoners have built. I like that, because it lets me fill in the blanks and make my own theories about what's going on in the city. I did mention that it seemed low budget, and I put that because this is a film that really would have benefited from better set pieces. Everything looked too uniform. When I see NYC in film, I want to see something that looks like NYC. I don't want it to look like a generic run down backdrop that could be any city. The exception to this was the gladiator battle. That looked like the Hammerstein ballroom, which is very appropriate given that Hammerstein is a pro-wrestling Mecca now. Kurt Russell was cool as Snake, and I think he inspired a video game character with this (metal Gear?). He reminded me a lot of Blondie from the Man With no Name trilogy, which was appropriate, seeing that Lee Von Cleef was in this too! I don't think I've seen much of Von Cleef outside of the Leone movies, so I was happy to see him here. _____________________________________________________ The List of Shame 1. Witness for the Prosecution: More courtroom drama 2. Lolita: I've seen almost all of Kubrick's offerings, but I have not yet seen this teen sex romp. 3. Gaslight: This is one of the more famous noirs, so I feel I need to see it. 4. Ocean's Eleven (1960): I've seen the remake a bunch of times - let's see how the original one is. 5. Life is Beautiful: 90's movie about a guy who brightens his son's day with comedy. Sounds great. 6. Cinema Paradiso: I should probably see the movie the forums are named after. 7. I Am a Fugitive from a Chain Gang: I don't know much about this one aside from the fact that the protagonist is a fugitive. From a chain gang. 8. Once Upon a Time in America: This has been on my radar for a while, but every time I've seen it at the library the 4 hour run time has put me off. Knowing I could watch 2 or 3 other movies in that time frame is a deal breaker to me. But it's Leone, so I know I need to see this. 9. Gone With the Wind: I have never bothered watching this, even though it's my mom's favorite movie. Is it time to borrow her DVD? 10. The Bicycle Thieves: I've had 2 bicycles stolen from me in the past. I need to find out what makes these thieves tick. Un-shamed in 2013: The Grapes of Wrath, Yojimbo, The Sixth Sense, Forbidden Planet, Cool Hand Luke, Easy Rider, It Happened one Night, Donnie Brasco, Fargo, Enter the Dragon, The Big Sleep, Adam's Rib, Animal House, Quiz Show, The Man with the Golden Arm, Strangers on a Train, Singin' in the Rain, The Philadelphia Story, The Time Machine, The Bridge on the River Kwai, Lawrence of Arabia, The Seven Year Itch, The Deer Hunter, City Lights, The Prestige, Five Easy Pieces, Some Like it Hot, Snatch, True Lies, The Seventh Seal, Amelie, The Magnificent Ambersons, Escape from New York
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Copyright MMXI, the only one on your list I've seen all the way through is Once Upon a Time in America, so, uh, good luck with that. I just finished Aguirre. Wow. This is like a spiritual prequel to Apocalypse Now, which is one of my absolute favorites. I loved the shots of the scenery and the score set a properly eerie, mysterious mood. I always love watching people descend into madness and this movie definitely delivered on that front. There were a ton of great visual callbacks throughout that helped to emphasize how hosed the expedition was and the mental state of Aguirre. The only issue I had was that it did drag just a bit at times, but overall, what a film. The List: 1. Oklahoma!: I am not big on musicals at all but I live in Oklahoma and have been told that it is some kind of crime against humanity that I haven't seen this. 2. Léon: The Professional: I think this is about an assassin or something. 3. The Conversation: The last John Cazale movie I haven't seen. NEW 4. Cool Hand Luke: I guess society has "failed to communicate" how much I should watch this movie  5. Shane: Another essential western. 6. Badlands: I watched The Tree of Life recently and I gotta get me some more Malick. 7. North Dallas Forty: I've been told that this is the best football movie ever made. I like football and movies. 8. The King's Speech: I borrowed this from the library a few weeks ago but the DVD was scratched and gave out halfway through. I liked what I did see, though. 9. Miller's Crossing: There's still a few Coen brothers movies I haven't gotten to yet. 10. Planet of the Apes: This came up in a Mad Men episode recently. Watched (33): Goodfellas, Rear Window, Rashomon, The Searchers, Lawrence of Arabia, American Psycho, The Usual Suspects, L.A. Confidential, Unforgiven, Once Upon a Time in America, Blue Velvet, Schindler's List, Vertigo, First Blood, The Sting, Annie Hall, Twelve Monkeys, The Deer Hunter, Rain Man, Chinatown, Glengarry Glen Ross, Patton, Brazil, Casino, Scanners, Black Swan, Superman, Spartacus, The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance, Seven Samurai, Double Indemnity, The Thing, Aguirre The Wrath of God
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Alfred, you get Badlands because I will always recommend Malick Tokyo Story left me a little speechless at the end. I found it a moving exploration of life, loss, getting old and letting go. One of the more human movies I feel that I have ever seen. Everything just felt so real to me. Not much I can say that hasn't been said better. What an introduction to Ozu. 1) The Magnificent Seven- I know this is an iconic western, but is it a great one? 2) Carlos- everyone I know who has seen this raves about it 3) A Woman Under the Influence- never seen any Cassavetes 4) Nashville- need more Altman in my life 5) Rope- working on my Hitchcock 6) To Live and in in L.A.- this seems right up my alley 7) Stalag 17- I love all the Wilder I've seen so far 8) The Wolf Man- more Universal monsters 9) Cabaret- after All That Jazz, I want to explore other Fosse musicals 10) Go West- I will not rest until I've seen every Buster Keaton New List of Unshamed: The Invisible Man; Paris, Texas; Dr Strangelove, Ran, Stripes, The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford, Throne of Blood, Touch of Evil, Blow Out, The Treasure of the Sierra Madre, The Sound of Music, The Apartment, The Rules of the Game, The Last Picture Show, Bicycle Thieves, Manhattan, The Conversation, All That Jazz, Two Lane Blacktop, The Deer Hunter, Island of Lost Souls, Tokyo Story
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Mistletoe Donkey, watch Nashville. So Triumph of the Will holds up to it's reputation as a masterpiece of cinematography, but also as it's reputation as one of the most notorious propaganda pieces ever made for one of the most notorious and evil regimes in human history. It certainly plays up the valor of Germany in a pep rally manner without ever touching on any of the issues or Hitler's imperialist ambitions. The Jews aren't even mentioned once, which is probably for the best. One touch I found fascinating was how all of the government speakers, especially Hitler, were shot at the perfect low angle. Enough to give them dignity and power, but not enough to make them seem imposing. It's a film you can learn a lot from, especially in how film can be a manipulative tool. Although ultimately it gets pretty boring and repetitive after the hour mark. It clocks in at 110 minutes but there's not much difference between scenes. It's a lot of marching, crowds, saluting, flags, and Hitler repeating himself over and over again. It's still a chilling historical document, and perhaps most important as a means of seeing how the Nazis saw themselves, but something I'd only want to watch again in a classroom. My List: Jules et Jim - Started to watch this about a year ago but I was really tired so I took a nap instead. Never got back to it. (Added 10/5/2012) L'Age D'or - Some early Bunuel. I think Dali was involved with this too so I'm on board. (Added 3/11/2013) The Grapes of Wrath - I should probably go for a classic western given the discussion, but I'm gonna go with a different John Ford film. (Added 3/15/2013) Strike - I've loved the Eisenstein I've seen so far. (Added 3/19/2013) Tokyo Story - Highest on the TSPDT Top 1000 that I haven't seen. Make me cry, Ozu! (Added 4/24/2013) Stroszek - Dedicating a spot to all the films that I own on DVD but still haven't seen. Picked up the Anchor Bay Herzog sets awhile ago and I still haven't watched all of them. (Added 5/1/2013) Once Upon a Time in Anatolia - I use Criticker's "remembered films" tool and my list has grown to over 200 movies. Going to try and start chipping into it from the ones that have been there the longest. I have no idea what this is about but I've heard great things. (Added 5/17/2013) Gone With the Wind - I always forget about this one for some reason. Also it's four hours long. (Added 5/25/2013) Titanic - I used to be obsessed with the Titanic as a kid, but I was too young to see this when it came out. My mom was worried about the nudity. Maybe I should cover my eyes when that scene happens for the full "protective mother" movie experience. (Added 6/11/2013) The General - I should see more Buster Keaton. (Added 6/13/2013) Watched: Harold and Maude; The Third Man; Inland Empire; Godzilla; Big Trouble In Little China; Y Tu Mamá También; Marathon Man; Hunger; A Woman Is A Woman; Black Narcissus; A Hard Day's Night; Scarface; Le Doulos; On The Waterfront; Rocky; 3 Women; Airplane!; Duck Soup; Clash of the Titans; Singin' In The Rain; The Cow; Straw Dogs; Stop Making Sense; Bad Timing; Once Upon A Time In America; Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade; Robocop; Shane; WALL·E; The 36th Chamber Of Shaolin; The Man Who Fell To Earth; Mr. Smith Goes To Washington; Divorce Italian Style; Some Like It Hot; To Kill A Mockingbird; An American Werewolf In London; Buffalo '66; Lawrence Of Arabia; Manhattan; Cul-De-Sac; The Birth of a Nation; Braveheart; Sex, Lies, and Videotape; Malcolm X; Ghost Dog: The Way of the Samurai; The Passion of Joan of Arc; The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King; Le Samouraï; The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance; Marat/Sade; His Girl Friday; A Woman Under the Influence; Close Encounters of the Third Kind; Rio Bravo; Triumph of the Will (TOTAL: 55)
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TrixRabbi, you actually have something on your list that I've seen! Watch Titanic. Nosferatu: Thanks to Electronico6 for recommending a filtered version. I picked up on the "filter color = lighting" thing pretty quickly, and it made everything a lot clearer. Turns out, I saw this before back in high school, but I was dumb back then and am slightly less dumb now, so I appreciate it a lot more. It's a trimmed down Dracula, but with Max Schreck playing a far more monstrous version than in the classic Hollywood film. Like the other Expressionist pieces I watched, it was all about the visuals. They did some great tricks with fades and lighting to serve as the special effects, and the characters' looks really fit their personalities. _________________________ My Shame List, in order of length of time on the list: 1) The Exorcist: Catching up on classic horror. 2) Stagecoach: I've never seen a "classic" western. The Man who Shot Liberty Valance doesn't count. 3) Unbreakable: A few of my friends have called this the best superhero movie ever made. Let's see if they're right! 4) Triumph of the Will: Super influential Nazi propaganda? Seems like I should watch this just to keep an eye out for people using its techniques. 5) Oldboy: Pretty much going into this blind, aside from knowing 6) Forbidden Planet: A Sci-fi adaptation of Shakespeare? Sounds fun. 7) Drive: A new member of the Goon Canon. 8) 12 Angry Men: The classic courtroom drama, apparently. 9) Ed Wood: I love Plan 9 from Outer Space, so let's see how a movie about the director is. 10) Koyaanisqatsi: (new) Pretty! De-Shamed (23) [Top 5 in bold]: The Thing, Casino Royale, Blue Velvet, Metropolis, Unforgiven, The Rock, Jurassic Park, Glengarry Glen Ross, The Shining, Videodrome, Inglourious Basterds, Battleship Potemkin, Con Air, Mulholland Dr., The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari, Taxi Driver, Prometheus, Pan's Labyrinth, 8 1/2, Casino, Starship Troopers, The Big Lebowski, Nosferatu
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I was told for a long time to HURRY UP AND WATCH OLDBOY!!! - so now I get to pass that along to you. Have fun! Brazil There's something about Brazil that didn't connect with me. Parts of this film was right up my alley, and I feel that I should like this a lot more than I did! Maybe it was this messy story of a dystopian society that couldn't get me to care all that much. The turmoil, chaos was literally all over the place - some worked, and some didn't. Perhaps it was Jonathan Pryce in the lead role, who I can only remember seeing as the bumbling nervous client James Lingk from Glengarry Glen Ross. Seeing him in the ordinary man role doing extraordinary things kinda threw me off. Maybe it was Hoskins and De Niro in minor roles as battling air-condition repairmen and wish I saw more of both? I guess director Terry Gilliam's biggest problem was the lead actress, newcomer Kim Greist, who I didn't have a problem with at all. Maybe it was some of the set pieces looking rather flimsy, the romance feeling forced, or that certain aspects of this world wasn't explained enough? I will say that what worked best was the ending, but ending on a strong note still couldn't make up for the lack of connection throughout. Could it be that I watched the wrong version? I've got the US-directors cut that Universal released in 2011, at 131 minutes. Maybe the extra 12 minutes on the Criterion original cut would change everything? There was some good here, but certainly did not live up to the hype. LIST High and Low **new** (2013.06.15) - need to get through the essential Kurosawa! M (2013.06.03) - I think I watched half of this at one point but started it too late at night. I want to rectify this. The Magnificient Ambersons (2013.05.04) - I claim to be a big Welles fan yet have not watched his follow up to Citizen Kane. The Music Room (2013.01.29) - my Satyajit Ray cherry is still intact. The Passion of Joan of Arc (2013.05.20) - one of those must-see classics I just haven't got around to. The Sting (2013.02.19) - I get told often to watch this. I want to get told once more. The Sweet Hereafter (2013.05.05) - have only watched Exotica from Egoyan. I hear this is pretty good. The Taste of Cherry (2013.05.04) - loved Close-up & Certified Copy. I want more! The Wages of Fear (2013.05.11) - my friend won't stop bugging me that I have yet to see this. He means well. Witness For The Prosecution (2013.06.02) - this list, and my life, always could use more Wilder. De-shamed: Aliens (4.5/5), The Bridge on the River Kwai (5/5), La Dolce Vita (4/5), The Hustler (5/5), Blue Velvet (4.5/5), Close-Up (4.5/5), The Lady Vanishes (4.5/5), Grave of the Fireflies (5/5), Close Encounters of the Third Kind (3.5/5), Oldboy (4.5/5), Gattaca (3.5/5), Children of Men (5/5), The Great Dictator (4.5/5), Diabolique (4.5/5), Aguirre, the Wrath of God (3.5/5), Rashomon (4.5/5), Singin' in the Rain (5/5), Le Samourai (5/5), Hiroshima, Mon Amour (5/5), Battleship Potemkin (4/5), Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore (3.5/5), Network (5/5), Once Upon A Time In The West (5/5), Sleeper (2.5/5), Y Tu Mama Tambien (4.5/5), Lawrence of Arabia (3.5/5), Amadeus (4/5), E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial (4.5/5), The Postman Always Rings Twice (3.5/5), Ben-Hur (4.5/5), Bug (4/5), All The President's Men (4.5/5), Through a Glass Darkly (4/5), The Leopard (2/5), The Aviator (4.5/5), Duck Soup (4/5), The Good The Bad & The Ugly (5/5), Werckmeister Harmonies (4/5), Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf (4.5/5), To Kill A Mockingbird (2.5/5), Brazil (2.5/5), [Total:40]
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friendo, M was the first movie I saw when I got netflix. I love it. Hope you do, too. American Psycho was a good movie mostly because of Christian Bale. His burning self-hatred is powerful, but when he cuts loose he flips to a Jim Carrey level of glee, and it was hilarious. Willem Dafoe had second billing, but he wasn’t really in the movie all that much. He made a great red herring, though. It appeared that the movie was going to be about Bateman versus Kimball, but the ending literally blows that away. If I understand correctly, Bateman never killed anyone- he just fantasized about it. This explains some of the glaring unlikelihoods, like the idea that he could run down a hallway with a running chainsaw and no one would notice. Also, hitting someone with a chainsaw from five stories up is ridiculous. The point, as I take it, is that Bateman’s mind is indistinguishable from a serial killer because his whole lifestyle is about preying on others. When he does go insane, no one even notices because they all act the same way and none of them know each other on a personal level. The movie works, but it’s an odd sort of anti-nostalgia for the late 80’s. At first, I thought it was made then. The styles are different, but I suppose the ethos of predatory Wall Street bankers is as strong as ever. Rating: 3.5/4 66. Dr. Zhivago- For the historical epic slot, we move from sand to snow. Also, more WWI, this time from the Russian perspective, which I like even more. 77. Leaving Las Vegas- Like I said, I've always liked Nick Cage, so let's see his Oscar performance. 83. Kiss Kiss, Bang Bang- So, I don't know. This is like - a noir, but not a noir? A parody, kind of but not really? Robert Downey Jr.? I'm confused, but I'm told I'll like it. 84. Lost Weekend- Ben Franklin from 1776 gets really drunk. Sure, why not? 87. Out of Africa- I have seen this once, but all I remember is being really bored. But I was younger then, and my tastes weren't as developed, so I'm willing to give it another try. 90. Wall Street- Greed is good, I guess? I like Michael Douglas, and I don't know who else is in this movie. 91. The Usual Suspects- I already know who Keyser Soze is. I'm afraid that, like a later Shyamalan film, this movie is all about the big twist and falls apart once you know it. 92. The Bourne Identity- Well, any of them, but let's start at the beginning. 93. Hardcore- This is a movie where George C. Scott plays a devout Calvinist. Okay, I'm intrigued. This is also a movie where George C. Scott pretends to be a porn producer. I am now more intrigued. Okay, tell me what I’m watching! Shame relieved: The Godfather: 3.5/4, The Godfather Part II: 4/4, Taxi Driver: 4/4, Casablanca: 4/4, Duck Soup: 2/4, Pulp Fiction: 4/4, Barton Fink: 3.5/4, Annie Hall:3/4, Rashomon: 4/4, Blade Runner: 3.5/4, Chinatown: 4/4, Nashville: 3.5/4, Goodfellas: 4/4, The Seven Samurai: 4/4, Superman: 2/4, The Exorcist: 3/4, A Face in the Crowd: 3.5/4, The Seventh Seal: 2.5/4, Treasure of the Sierra Madre: 3.5/4, Apocalypse Now: 4/4, 2001: A Space Odyssey: 2.5/4, The Deer Hunter: 3/4, Schindler's List: 4/4, The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari: 3/4, Young Frankenstein: 3.5/4, Yojimbo: 3.5/4, Brazil: 3.5/4, Hamlet: 4/4, The Aviator: 4/4, Rocky: 3.5/4, Gandhi: 3.5/4, City Lights: 4/4, Battleship Potemkin: 3.5/4, Predator: 3/4, Easy Rider: 1.5/4, Platoon: 3.5/4, Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid: 4/4, Get Carter: 3.5/4, Full Metal Jacket: 4/4, My Dinner with Andre: 4/4, Lethal Weapon: 3/4, 3 Women: 4/4, Ikiru: 4/4, The Maltese Falcon: 2.5/4, Midnight Cowboy: 3/4, Gattaca: 4/4, Gone with the Wind: 3/4, Jaws: 4/4, The Bicycle Thief: 3/4, Sophie's Choice: 2/4, On the Waterfront: 4/4, North by Northwest: 3.5/4, Stagecoach: 3.5/4, E.T.: 2/4, Nosferatu: 4/4, Lawrence of Arabia: 4/4, Dirty Harry: 1/4, Vertigo: 3.5/4, Rebecca: 4/4, The Pink Panther: 3/4, Children of Men: 4/4, Wings of Desire: 3/4, Metropolis: 3.5/4, Born on the Fourth of July: 4/4, The Bridge on the River Kwai: 3.5/4, Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind: 4/4, Being John Malkovich: 3/4, Adaptation: 4/4, Bonnie and Clyde: 4/4, Goldfinger: 3/4, A Streetcar Named Desire: 4/4, Dog Day Afternoon: 3.5/4, Leon: The Professional: 4/4, 8 1/2: 3/4, Mulholland Drive: 4/4, 12 Angry Men: 4/4, Safety Last: 3.5/4, Dogville: 4/4, The Rapture: 2/4, Blue Velvet: 3/4, Irreversible: 4/4, Airplane!: 3.5/4, Tokyo Story: 2.5/4, Big Trouble in Little China:: 3.5/4, American Psycho: 3.5/4
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Jun 18, 2013 18:21
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So I'm having a really hard time with La Dolce Vita. I'm only an hour in and I keep on groaning with boredom. I've already had to stop and start this thing 3 times. I've tried doing a little research on the film to get myself interested but it's just doing anything for me... and I have two more hours to go. Can anyone give me a pep talk or something on this? I feel like I'm just too stupid for this movie.
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Jun 19, 2013 04:30
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Chili posted:So I'm having a really hard time with La Dolce Vita. I'm only an hour in and I keep on groaning with boredom. I've already had to stop and start this thing 3 times. I've tried doing a little research on the film to get myself interested but it's just doing anything for me... and I have two more hours to go. Can anyone give me a pep talk or something on this? I feel like I'm just too stupid for this movie. Is how beautiful the black and white cinematography is not doing it for you? Even if you find it too slow, which I can totally understand even though I love the movie, cling to the cinematography like a life preserver because it's loving unreal.
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Jun 19, 2013 04:32
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LtKenFrankenstein posted:Is how beautiful the black and white cinematography is not doing it for you? Even if you find it too slow, which I can totally understand even though I love the movie, cling to the cinematography like a life preserver because it's loving unreal. Not really. I mean it looks fine, but that's about all I'm getting. I'll believe you when you say it's as good as it is, but I'm not really noticing much. I'm really starting to wonder if I'm even cut out for movies like this.
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Jun 19, 2013 04:55
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Chili posted:I feel like I'm just too stupid for this movie. Is this your first Fellini film? I remember my first Fellini film being 8½ and it was a confusing experience. After I watched La Strada and Nights of Cabiria things began to make more sense.
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Jun 19, 2013 05:45
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I've never seen Titanic and don't really regret it because I feel like I've seen it. Also, The Godfather 2 which I probably should watch.
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Jun 19, 2013 06:50
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Zogo posted:Is this your first Fellini film? I remember my first Fellini film being 8½ and it was a confusing experience. After I watched La Strada and Nights of Cabiria things began to make more sense. It is, but I was told to definitely go with this over 8½ as my introductory Fellini film. You picked LDV for me so would you recommend I go with one of those instead?
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Jun 19, 2013 15:33
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Chili posted:It is, but I was told to definitely go with this over 8½ as my introductory Fellini film. You picked LDV for me so would you recommend I go with one of those instead? My advice would be to just stick with La Dolce Vita. Watch it with the understanding that the "plot" isn't really building to anything, and just try to enjoy what you're seeing scene to scene. I admit it's not a very accessible movie, at least compared to the other Fellini I've seen. But don't let it put a damper on your opinion of him. Watch Nights of Cabiria afterwards.
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Jun 19, 2013 15:45
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Jurgan posted:66. Dr. Zhivago- For the historical epic slot, we move from sand to snow. Also, more WWI, this time from the Russian perspective, which I like even more. Been on your list for a long time. Chili posted:It is, but I was told to definitely go with this over 8½ as my introductory Fellini film. You picked LDV for me so would you recommend I go with one of those instead? I'd never recommend LDV or 8½ to start. At this point I'd just try to finish it but if you're dying to switch you could try La Strada or Nights of Cabiria. The others I've seen from your list if you want to try one of these: Tokyo Story, Rebecca, Duck Soup Shadows - While it feels ahead of its time in some respects I couldn't get into it that much. It's got bad and abrupt cuts throughout (which are sold as being part of the films character on the DVD extras). There's 3-4 intersecting stories that become interlocked as the film plays out. Like the others I've seen by Cassavetes there are a few awkward/unconventional scenes. Whereas, "A Woman Under the Influence" and "The Killing of a Chinese Bookie" were pretty mind-blowing revelations this just felt ordinary. PS I always hate when the Netflix sleeve has crucial spoilers. also watched: An American Werewolf in London - It's another variation of the werewolf myth and the effects were similar to those used in Michael Jackson's Thriller music video of course. The aspect of the victims going on in some kind of limbo was interesting and David's trek into the zoo was reminiscent of Eddie's in Altered States. There are a few memorable dream sequences and the continually detiorating Jack has a unique look but besides that the plot was a little silly and facile for the most part. Why doesn't David's family make any attempt to contact him? What possesses the doctor to travel to the pub and ask those trite questions to the stereotypical villagers? The only reason seems to be to prop up this story that feels half-finished. Cool scenes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0wShZqevLU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLs-Oreo_bk Academy Award for Best Picture (80/85 completed): 1936 The Great Ziegfeld - A slightly less boring title for a biopic. 3/22/13 1933 Cavalcade - Some call this the worst Best Picture winner. A 6.2 rating on IMDb kind of backs that up. 5/4/13 1931 Cimarron - It has the lowest IMDb rating (6.0) of any Best Picture winner. 5/10/13 Procrastination (55 completed): #46 Any Steven Seagal film - I've never seen one of these and I'm not sure where to start. 4/6/13 #54 The Philadelphia Story - I read the basic plot and it sounds very similar to "His Girl Friday." Seeing as how that was the worst I've seen from this thread I can't say I'm excited. 5/28/13 #58 Yankee Doodle Dandy - Been recommended in the past. 6/12/13 new #59 Nashville - It's on a ton of lists. 6/19/13 new #60 Giant - Something about Texas. 6/19/13 James Herbert Bond versus James Tiberius Kirk: Dr. No - I saw this one ~20 years ago on VHS. I remember most of it but not the ending for some reason. 6/12/13 Star Trek: The Motion Picture - I've seen a couple of the Star Trek films but I should watch them all in chronological order of release I guess. I was a fan of TNG as a kid and probably saw 15-20% of the shows. I revisited the show later and it was still good. I also saw some of the original series from the 60s and I vividly remember Kirk fighting a lizard man. I tried some of the other TV series and couldn't get into them at all. 6/8/13
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Jun 20, 2013 04:03
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Zogo, I'll give you The Great Ziegfeld since it's been on your list since March. So, Titanic. I feel as though this is one in recent years where a lot of people want to say "oh, it's not that good" or "it's alright" but dammit, I was honestly moved by this film. It's embarrassing to admit but I cried. Not for the love story but for Cameron's careful and beautiful portrayal of the people who lost their lives. It has such a filmic feel that it's easy to forget this was a real event. But when I remember this movie I'm going to remember the violinist playing for comfort, the elderly couple holding each other as water sweeps beneath them, the mother telling her children a story. Those moments of bravery. Even when the real destruction begins it's respectful and even in admiration of the victims. Yes, the acting is a bit hamfisted (especially Billy Zane) and the love story is full of it's perfect Hollywood moments, but even all of that was enjoyable and never felt overlong. Although maybe the framing device with old Rose telling the story was unnecessary. Though is it strange if I still feel like The Terminator is James Cameron's best film? My List: Jules et Jim (1962) - Started to watch this about a year ago but I was really tired so I took a nap instead. Never got back to it. (Added 10/5/2012) L'Age D'or (1930) - Some early Bunuel. I think Dali was involved with this too so I'm on board. (Added 3/11/2013) The Grapes of Wrath (1940) - I should probably go for a classic western given the discussion, but I'm gonna go with a different John Ford film. (Added 3/15/2013) Strike (1925) - I've loved the Eisenstein I've seen so far. (Added 3/19/2013) Tokyo Story (1953) - Highest on the TSPDT Top 1000 that I haven't seen. Make me cry, Ozu! (Added 4/24/2013) Stroszek (1977) - Dedicating a spot to all the films that I own on DVD but still haven't seen. Picked up the Anchor Bay Herzog sets awhile ago and I still haven't watched all of them. (Added 5/1/2013) Once Upon a Time in Anatolia (2011) - I use Criticker's "remembered films" tool and my list has grown to over 200 movies. Going to try and start chipping into it from the ones that have been there the longest. I have no idea what this is about but I've heard great things. (Added 5/17/2013) Gone With the Wind (1939) - I always forget about this one for some reason. Also it's four hours long. (Added 5/25/2013) The General (1926) - I should see more Buster Keaton. (Added 6/13/2013) My Darling Clementine (1946) - Trying to see more John Ford. (Added 6/20/2013) Watched: Harold and Maude; The Third Man; Inland Empire; Godzilla; Big Trouble In Little China; Y Tu Mamá También; Marathon Man; Hunger; A Woman Is A Woman; Black Narcissus; A Hard Day's Night; Scarface; Le Doulos; On The Waterfront; Rocky; 3 Women; Airplane!; Duck Soup; Clash of the Titans; Singin' In The Rain; The Cow; Straw Dogs; Stop Making Sense; Bad Timing; Once Upon A Time In America; Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade; Robocop; Shane; WALL·E; The 36th Chamber Of Shaolin; The Man Who Fell To Earth; Mr. Smith Goes To Washington; Divorce Italian Style; Some Like It Hot; To Kill A Mockingbird; An American Werewolf In London; Buffalo '66; Lawrence Of Arabia; Manhattan; Cul-De-Sac; The Birth of a Nation; Braveheart; Sex, Lies, and Videotape; Malcolm X; Ghost Dog: The Way of the Samurai; The Passion of Joan of Arc; The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King; Le Samouraï; The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance; Marat/Sade; His Girl Friday; A Woman Under the Influence; Close Encounters of the Third Kind; Rio Bravo; Triumph of the Will; Titanic (TOTAL: 56) TrixRabbi fucked around with this message at 19:26 on Jun 20, 2013 |
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Jun 20, 2013 19:19
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TrixRabbi posted:So, Titanic. I feel as though this is one in recent years where a lot of people want to say "oh, it's not that good" or "it's alright" but dammit, I was honestly moved by this film. It's embarrassing to admit but I cried. Not for the love story but for Cameron's careful and beautiful portrayal of the people who lost their lives. It has such a filmic feel that it's easy to forget this was a real event. But when I remember this movie I'm going to remember the violinist playing for comfort, the elderly couple holding each other as water sweeps beneath them, the mother telling her children a story. Those moments of bravery. Even when the real destruction begins it's respectful and even in admiration of the victims. Titanic is wonderful. It got an undeserved backlash against it shortly after its release, and the stigma kinda stuck. I really don't know why people dislike it so much. It's well-structured, nicely shot, has a great score, and the last act is gut wrenching.
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Jun 20, 2013 19:27
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TrixRabbi posted:Though is it strange if I still feel like The Terminator is James Cameron's best film? That's still my favorite too and I think a lot of people would say the same. I liked Titanic a lot. The one criticism I could give was the acting as the ship was sinking. People about to drown are not that calm. That's not much of a criticism anyway though.
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Jun 20, 2013 21:40
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Zogo posted:That's still my favorite too and I think a lot of people would say the same. I liked Titanic a lot. The one criticism I could give was the acting as the ship was sinking. People about to drown are not that calm. That's not much of a criticism anyway though. I thought they showed the various reactions well. The people who accepted their fate and remained calm were the ones who got to me the most. There were plenty of people panicking as well as people who for a good while thought everything would work out ok. People do strange things in situations like that. Although maybe Billy Zane had his priorities a bit misaligned.
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Jun 20, 2013 23:06
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TrixRabbi posted:I thought they showed the various reactions well. The people who accepted their fate and remained calm were the ones who got to me the most. There were plenty of people panicking as well as people who for a good while thought everything would work out ok. People do strange things in situations like that. Although maybe Billy Zane had his priorities a bit misaligned. I agree that it was fine. It just didn't seem authentic (from what I've seen from real disaster videos). But I can understand them not even wanting to film in that way. It would've turned more into a horror film.
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Jun 20, 2013 23:38
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TrixRabbi posted:Strike (1925) - I've loved the Eisenstein I've seen so far. (Added 3/19/2013) Battleship Potempkin is my favorite Eisenstein, but Strike is a pretty close second. Watch it! Watch it for the collective! For the first half of Tokyo Story, I just couldn't get into the film. Shukichi and Tomi's sweetness was too aggressively pushed on me, the level of self-centeredness displayed by their children seemed to be at almost Snidely Whiplash levels, and Noriko's absolute selflessness just felt like too much. Then, about halfway in, something fell into place, I think with me and the movie, and suddenly the film had its hooks in me. The sheer emotion of much of the back half was gripping, and the static nature of Ozu's cinematography went from feeling unnecessarily still to fittingly melancholic. Though there were still a couple moments that felt like they were a little too heavy-handed (Shige's demanding of specific mementos at the post-funeral meal), everything felt more whole, and like it grew better as it went on. By the end, I wasn't sure if I should be smiling, crying or both, and that seems about right for a film whose core message is that time eventually carries us all apart, but that even if this is sad it isn't necessarily bad. (There's some term for 'good sadness' or 'good mourning' that I know perfectly fits this sort of feeling, but I can't remember it just now) And we don't have to leave the past entirely behind anyway. One thing I found especially interesting was the implication that Noriko was so kind because she felt like she had to be to redeem herself for moving on from Shoji despite her best efforts. It's a take that I don't think I've seen elsewhere, and it does a lot to potentially recontextualize much of what came before. - RandallODim's Wall of Shame: The Rules of the Game (1939) - Wikipedia says it's a comedy about the French upper-class just before World War II. Sounds interesting. Robinson Crusoe On Mars (1964) - Blind bought the Criterion. Looks like it's gonna be beautiful, but don't know anything else other than monkey in a space suit. 8½ (1963) - Let's keep the Fellini train going with a movie about making a movie, shall we? Stagecoach (1939) – Not sure I've watched a John Ford film before, and it's a faux pas to start with The Searchers, so Stagecoach it is! Glengarry Glen Ross (1992) - Real estate! Always Be Closing! Mamet! Sunrise (1927) - It's the last thing in the TSPDT Top 10 that I haven't seen and that isn't on my list, and I dug Nosferatu, so let's do it! (It's nothing like Nosferatu is it) Sunset Boulevard (1950) - I was told I had to put it on my list, so I guess I'm ready for my close-up. The Bicycle Thief (1948) - Another that I know for a fact I've been told I need to see, but just haven't yet. Aguirre, the Wrath of God (1972) - Herzog and Kinski! It's a favorite of a friend, and I really need to watch more Herzog. World On A Wire (1973) - I got the Bluray during a Criterion sale, might as well actually watch it! RandallODim's Shame Was Reduced By 10: 2001: A Space Odyssey, Sanjuro, La Strada, The Seventh Seal, Solaris, The Godfather Part II, The Shawshank Redemption, 12 Angry Men, Vertigo, Tokyo Story
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RandallODim, watch Glengarry Glen Ross. I probably shouldn't have watched Badlands as late at night as I did. I had a hard time paying enough attention and as a result I had a hard time getting into this movie. There were some wonderful sequences and it definitely had Malick's style, but I can't imagine ever wanting to revisit this. Martin Sheen was pretty good as a crazy person. The List: 1. Oklahoma!: I am not big on musicals at all but I live in Oklahoma and have been told that it is some kind of crime against humanity that I haven't seen this. 2. Léon: The Professional: I think this is about an assassin or something. 3. The Conversation: The last John Cazale movie I haven't seen. 4. Cool Hand Luke: I guess society has "failed to communicate" how much I should watch this movie 5. Shane: Another essential western. NEW 6. Trainspotting: A lot of people I know seem to really like this. 7. North Dallas Forty: I've been told that this is the best football movie ever made. I like football and movies. 8. The King's Speech: I borrowed this from the library a few weeks ago but the DVD was scratched and gave out halfway through. I liked what I did see, though. 9. Miller's Crossing: There's still a few Coen brothers movies I haven't gotten to yet. 10. Planet of the Apes: This came up in a Mad Men episode recently. Watched (34): Goodfellas, Rear Window, Rashomon, The Searchers, Lawrence of Arabia, American Psycho, The Usual Suspects, L.A. Confidential, Unforgiven, Once Upon a Time in America, Blue Velvet, Schindler's List, Vertigo, First Blood, The Sting, Annie Hall, Twelve Monkeys, The Deer Hunter, Rain Man, Chinatown, Glengarry Glen Ross, Patton, Brazil, Casino, Scanners, Black Swan, Superman, Spartacus, The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance, Seven Samurai, Double Indemnity, The Thing, Aguirre The Wrath of God, Badlands
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RandallODim posted:(There's some term for 'good sadness' or 'good mourning' that I know perfectly fits this sort of feeling, but I can't remember it just now) And we don't have to leave the past entirely behind anyway. Bittersweet? Alfred P. Pseudonym posted:10. Planet of the Apes: This came up in a Mad Men episode recently. Try this next. The Great Ziegfeld - This one clocks in at just over three hours long. The film has some life to it and starts with a flashy intro showing the credits. Ziegfeld is a producer of stage shows and acts. Throughout the film Ziegfeld has a friendly feud with Billings (as Ziegfeld continuously steals the talented performers away from Billings). Ziegfeld has many affairs and relationships with women. The pacing goes back and forth between the many monetary successes and failures he has. It happens so often that the drama is kind of stunted and weakened. This one has a lot of big stage sets and it really, really would've looked better in color and in widescreen but it's 1935-1936 so it's 4:3 B/W. I wish I could see the giant rotating spiral staircase and the huge imaginative costumes in color. The more films I see from the 20s and 30s the more I see how Citizen Kane changed the storytelling game. PS Fanny Brice and Ray Bolger appear as themselves which is kind of nice in a biopic. Luise Rainer (plays Anna Held) is still alive at the age of 103. Academy Award for Best Picture (81/85 completed): 1933 Cavalcade - Some call this the worst Best Picture winner. A 6.2 rating on IMDb kind of backs that up. 5/4/13 1931 Cimarron - It has the lowest IMDb rating (6.0) of any Best Picture winner. 5/10/13 Procrastination (55 completed): #46 Any Steven Seagal film - I've never seen one of these and I'm not sure where to start. 4/6/13 #54 The Philadelphia Story - I read the basic plot and it sounds very similar to "His Girl Friday." Seeing as how that was the worst I've seen from this thread I can't say I'm excited. 5/28/13 #58 Yankee Doodle Dandy - Been recommended in the past. 6/12/13 #59 Nashville - It's on a ton of lists. 6/19/13 #60 Giant - Something about Texas. 6/19/13 new #61 Brokeback Mountain - The newest Academy Award for Best Director winner that I haven't seen. 6/22/13 James Herbert Bond versus James Tiberius Kirk: Dr. No - I saw this one ~20 years ago on VHS. I remember most of it but not the ending for some reason. 6/12/13 Star Trek: The Motion Picture - I've seen a couple of the Star Trek films but I should watch them all in chronological order of release I guess. I was a fan of TNG as a kid and probably saw 15-20% of the shows. I revisited the show later and it was still good. I also saw some of the original series from the 60s and I vividly remember Kirk fighting a lizard man. I tried some of the other TV series and couldn't get into them at all. 6/8/13
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Sometimes it's the ones you least expect that you end up loving the most. Enjoy! M Fritz Lang's crime drama definitely earns its' stature as one of the greatest of all time. The social commentary runs strong throughout, the German-expressionist imagery is beautiful, and the performance from Peter Lorre as the child-kidnapper marked as "M" is one I will never forget. There are many instances where I forget it is 82 years old. Little Elsie Beckmann is bouncing her ball when a looming shadow (Lorre) hovers over her, asking for her name. Wanted signs are all over the city as there have been many instances throughout the past year. When the police's thorough investigation, led by Inspector Karl Lohmann (Otto Wernicke), leads nowhere, the criminal underworld is disrupted by the ordeal and decide to track this child-murderer down themselves. The lasting image I'll have from this film is right on the Criterion cover art - Lorre's round bug-eyes, open wide and drenched in fear. It is a performance similar to Chigurh or Lecter who's character becomes more complex as the film goes on. What aids his character in being so frightening is the world vividly portrayed around him - little children playing in the streets and parks, mothers desperate in ensuring their children's safety, the police trying to seize and capture him, and citizens turning on each other as the manhunt continues. The script brilliantly portrays a city in hysteria and blurs the lines between cop and criminal. Combine all that with stunning imagery of pre-war Germany and it's a film that has not aged one bit. All at once, M is a procedural drama, a crime film, a gripping thriller, and a definite influence on film noir. I thought of other films like 1949's The Third Man, 1955's Rififi, 1995's Se7en, and 2007's Zodiac - and that's just off the top of my head. There are moments and images that will stay with me forever, and I can't wait to watch this again down the road. LIST High and Low (2013.06.15) - need to get through the essential Kurosawa! The Magnificient Ambersons (2013.05.04) - I claim to be a big Welles fan yet have not watched his follow up to Citizen Kane. The Music Room (2013.01.29) - my Satyajit Ray cherry is still intact. The Passion of Joan of Arc (2013.05.20) - one of those must-see classics I just haven't got around to. Princess Mononoke **new** (2013.06.23) - I hate that I haven't watched this yet - I'm always craving more Miyazaki after Spirted Away & Totoro The Sting (2013.02.19) - I get told often to watch this. I want to get told once more. The Sweet Hereafter (2013.05.05) - have only watched Exotica from Egoyan. I hear this is pretty good. The Taste of Cherry (2013.05.04) - loved Close-up & Certified Copy. I want more! The Wages of Fear (2013.05.11) - my friend won't stop bugging me that I have yet to see this. He means well. Witness For The Prosecution (2013.06.02) - this list, and my life, always could use more Wilder. De-shamed: Aliens (4.5/5), The Bridge on the River Kwai (5/5), La Dolce Vita (4/5), The Hustler (5/5), Blue Velvet (4.5/5), Close-Up (4.5/5), The Lady Vanishes (4.5/5), Grave of the Fireflies (5/5), Close Encounters of the Third Kind (3.5/5), Oldboy (4.5/5), Gattaca (3.5/5), Children of Men (5/5), The Great Dictator (4.5/5), Diabolique (4.5/5), Aguirre, the Wrath of God (3.5/5), Rashomon (4.5/5), Singin' in the Rain (5/5), Le Samourai (5/5), Hiroshima, Mon Amour (5/5), Battleship Potemkin (4/5), Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore (3.5/5), Network (5/5), Once Upon A Time In The West (5/5), Sleeper (2.5/5), Y Tu Mama Tambien (4.5/5), Lawrence of Arabia (3.5/5), Amadeus (4/5), E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial (4.5/5), The Postman Always Rings Twice (3.5/5), Ben-Hur (4.5/5), Bug (4/5), All The President's Men (4.5/5), Through a Glass Darkly (4/5), The Leopard (2/5), The Aviator (4.5/5), Duck Soup (4/5), The Good The Bad & The Ugly (5/5), Werckmeister Harmonies (4/5), Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf (4.5/5), To Kill A Mockingbird (2.5/5), Brazil (2.5/5), M (5/5), [Total:42] friendo55 fucked around with this message at 20:27 on Jun 24, 2013 |
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friendo55 gets High and Low. My favourite Kurosawa film. _____________________________ Alfred P. Pseudonym gave me Glengarry Glen Ross. Which was very good. I was fairly certain going in that Glengarry Glen Ross was originally a play, and it really shows in watching, it's all dialogue and performance, and while the dialogue is good, it's the delivery that makes this film work so well. And that is massively down to Jack Lemmon, who is absolultely incredible in this, just incredible. Everything from his showy salesman routine to his outbursts of anger, ever second of it feels genuine and honest. The rest of the cast is solid too, despite the Al Pacino-ness of Al Pacino's performance early one, once he gets to properly interact with other characters, ole Alan Pacino is actually very good. The plot is small in scale, both in scope and timeframe, but the film feels extremely genuine, largely due to Jack Lemmon's performance. The direction doesn't add anything at all, being very stagey, the performances are the key in the film but there really isn't much going on besides them. But did I mention how good Jack Lemmon is? cause he's so good. The List, perchance to de-shame: 1 - Dreams - One of the few Kurosawa films I've not seen, not a fan of anthology films. 2 - A Prophet - Heard almost nothing but good things about this, and prison films are usually interesting. 3 - Ronin - It was February's CineD Movie of the Month, never really caught my attention but apparently good? 4 - The Host - South Korean monster movie. teenage love triangle featuring a monster based on the novel by Stephenie Meyer. 5 - Glory to the Filmmaker! - A Kitano comedy... but hopefully it follows on more from Takeshis' than harking back to Getting Any? [Catching up with Kitano 1/4] 6 - The Player - I've only seen one Altman film, The Long Goodbye, figure I should see a more typical film of his, & a Hollywood setting will be interesting too. 7 - Assault on Precinct 13 - Interesting premise & got a good interesting review earlier in the thread too. 8 - Haywire - Another apparently solid action flick, Soderbergh is usually realiable and entertaining in genre mode. 9 - The Seventh Seal - Finally, I'll be able to fully appreciate Bill & Ted's Bogus Journey and Last Action Hero. 10- Youth of the Beast - new - A Seijun Suzuki film that I know almost nothing about, which is possibly the best thing going in to a Seijun Suzuki film Shame No More: [21] [top three] Psycho | The Third Man | The Long Goodbye | Harakiri | The Silence of the Lambs | Pi | Jaws | Panic Room | Black Swan | Star Trek II | The Brothers Bloom | Hugo | Badlands | Shame | LA Confidential | The Right Stuff | The Evil Dead | Hanna | The Master | The Untouchables | Glengarry Glen Ross
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I love seeing someone's first reaction to Glengarry Glen Ross. The Alec Baldwin monologue is always cited a lot, but this monologue by Al Pacino is one of my favorite scenes of all-time: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qa9dttNx1S8 And yes, Jack Lemmon was amazing. Rest in peace. It still slays me to think of him in Some Like It Hot when I watch GGR.
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Chewy Bitems, you get The Seventh Seal. Strike was very good, but kind of paled in comparison to Battleship Potemkin which I was more emotionally involved in. Eisenstein's cinematography is always breathtaking, and he's never afraid to really demonize the bourgeoisie (a soldier just straight up kills a kid). My List: Jules et Jim (1962) - Started to watch this about a year ago but I was really tired so I took a nap instead. Never got back to it. (Added 10/5/2012) L'Age D'or (1930) - Some early Bunuel. I think Dali was involved with this too so I'm on board. (Added 3/11/2013) The Grapes of Wrath (1940) - I should probably go for a classic western given the discussion, but I'm gonna go with a different John Ford film. (Added 3/15/2013) Tokyo Story (1953) - Highest on the TSPDT Top 1000 that I haven't seen. Make me cry, Ozu! (Added 4/24/2013) Stroszek (1977) - Dedicating a spot to all the films that I own on DVD but still haven't seen. Picked up the Anchor Bay Herzog sets awhile ago and I still haven't watched all of them. (Added 5/1/2013) Once Upon a Time in Anatolia (2011) - I use Criticker's "remembered films" tool and my list has grown to over 200 movies. Going to try and start chipping into it from the ones that have been there the longest. I have no idea what this is about but I've heard great things. (Added 5/17/2013) Gone With the Wind (1939) - I always forget about this one for some reason. Also it's four hours long. (Added 5/25/2013) The General (1926) - I should see more Buster Keaton. (Added 6/13/2013) My Darling Clementine (1946) - Trying to see more John Ford. (Added 6/20/2013) Barry Lyndon (1975) - A Kubrick I haven't seen. I also own it and need to chip away at that pile of unwatched DVDs faster. (Added 6/25/2013) Watched: Harold and Maude; The Third Man; Inland Empire; Godzilla; Big Trouble In Little China; Y Tu Mamá También; Marathon Man; Hunger; A Woman Is A Woman; Black Narcissus; A Hard Day's Night; Scarface; Le Doulos; On The Waterfront; Rocky; 3 Women; Airplane!; Duck Soup; Clash of the Titans; Singin' In The Rain; The Cow; Straw Dogs; Stop Making Sense; Bad Timing; Once Upon A Time In America; Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade; Robocop; Shane; WALL·E; The 36th Chamber Of Shaolin; The Man Who Fell To Earth; Mr. Smith Goes To Washington; Divorce Italian Style; Some Like It Hot; To Kill A Mockingbird; An American Werewolf In London; Buffalo '66; Lawrence Of Arabia; Manhattan; Cul-De-Sac; The Birth of a Nation; Braveheart; Sex, Lies, and Videotape; Malcolm X; Ghost Dog: The Way of the Samurai; The Passion of Joan of Arc; The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King; Le Samouraï; The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance; Marat/Sade; His Girl Friday; A Woman Under the Influence; Close Encounters of the Third Kind; Rio Bravo; Triumph of the Will; Titanic; Strike (TOTAL: 57)
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TrixRabbi, you get The General because everyone should watch more Keaton I'm still wrestling with how I feel about Nashville. On one hand, it's very well made, acted and the music is quite good (even the laughably bad numbers). On the other hand, I was kind of indifferent to all of the characters as I felt very few of them were memorable. It's definitely not my favorite Altman but it is something I will revisit later to maybe see if i'm missing something. 1) The Magnificent Seven- I know this is an iconic western, but is it a great one? 2) Carlos- everyone I know who has seen this raves about it 3) A Woman Under the Influence- never seen any Cassavetes 4) Five Easy Pieces- another important 70s film I've yet to see 5) Rope- working on my Hitchcock 6) To Live and in in L.A.- this seems right up my alley 7) Stalag 17- I love all the Wilder I've seen so far 8) The Wolf Man- more Universal monsters 9) Cabaret- after All That Jazz, I want to explore other Fosse musicals 10) Go West- I will not rest until I've seen every Buster Keaton New List of Unshamed: The Invisible Man; Paris, Texas; Dr Strangelove, Ran, Stripes, The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford, Throne of Blood, Touch of Evil, Blow Out, The Treasure of the Sierra Madre, The Sound of Music, The Apartment, The Rules of the Game, The Last Picture Show, Bicycle Thieves, Manhattan, The Conversation, All That Jazz, Two Lane Blacktop, The Deer Hunter, Island of Lost Souls, Tokyo Story, Nashville
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Mistletoe Donkey, watch A Woman Under the Influence. I watched it not too far back for this thread and it was also my first Cassavetes. It's fantastic. The General was excellent, although I didn't expect something lionizing the Confederacy. Still, it got a good number of laughs out of me and it moves along at a great pace. A lot of fun and I definitely need to watch more Keaton now. My List: Jules et Jim (1962) - Started to watch this about a year ago but I was really tired so I took a nap instead. Never got back to it. (Added 10/5/2012) L'Age D'or (1930) - Some early Bunuel. I think Dali was involved with this too so I'm on board. (Added 3/11/2013) The Grapes of Wrath (1940) - I should probably go for a classic western given the discussion, but I'm gonna go with a different John Ford film. (Added 3/15/2013) Tokyo Story (1953) - Highest on the TSPDT Top 1000 that I haven't seen. Make me cry, Ozu! (Added 4/24/2013) Stroszek (1977) - Dedicating a spot to all the films that I own on DVD but still haven't seen. Picked up the Anchor Bay Herzog sets awhile ago and I still haven't watched all of them. (Added 5/1/2013) Once Upon a Time in Anatolia (2011) - I use Criticker's "remembered films" tool and my list has grown to over 200 movies. Going to try and start chipping into it from the ones that have been there the longest. I have no idea what this is about but I've heard great things. (Added 5/17/2013) Gone With the Wind (1939) - I always forget about this one for some reason. Also it's four hours long. (Added 5/25/2013) My Darling Clementine (1946) - Trying to see more John Ford. (Added 6/20/2013) Barry Lyndon (1975) - A Kubrick I haven't seen. I also own it and need to chip away at that pile of unwatched DVDs faster. (Added 6/25/2013) Faust (1926) - I'm going to keep a slot for silent films on my list, and Murnau has been one of my favorite silent directors making two of my favorites (The Last Laugh and Sunrise). This one looks good and eerie. (Added 6/26/2013) Watched: Harold and Maude; The Third Man; Inland Empire; Godzilla; Big Trouble In Little China; Y Tu Mamá También; Marathon Man; Hunger; A Woman Is A Woman; Black Narcissus; A Hard Day's Night; Scarface; Le Doulos; On The Waterfront; Rocky; 3 Women; Airplane!; Duck Soup; Clash of the Titans; Singin' In The Rain; The Cow; Straw Dogs; Stop Making Sense; Bad Timing; Once Upon A Time In America; Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade; Robocop; Shane; WALL·E; The 36th Chamber Of Shaolin; The Man Who Fell To Earth; Mr. Smith Goes To Washington; Divorce Italian Style; Some Like It Hot; To Kill A Mockingbird; An American Werewolf In London; Buffalo '66; Lawrence Of Arabia; Manhattan; Cul-De-Sac; The Birth of a Nation; Braveheart; Sex, Lies, and Videotape; Malcolm X; Ghost Dog: The Way of the Samurai; The Passion of Joan of Arc; The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King; Le Samouraï; The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance; Marat/Sade; His Girl Friday; A Woman Under the Influence; Close Encounters of the Third Kind; Rio Bravo; Triumph of the Will; Titanic; Strike; The General (TOTAL: 58) TrixRabbi fucked around with this message at 18:43 on Jun 26, 2013 |
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Zogo posted:Bittersweet? Yeah, that's probably the right word for it. I'm not sure what I thought I was thinking of. TrixRabbi posted:Jules et Jim (1962) - Started to watch this about a year ago but I was really tired so I took a nap instead. Never got back to it. (Added 10/5/2012) Let's clear 2012 additions off that list! Glengarry Glen Ross is a very enjoyable movie, largely on the strength of its performances and script. As Chewy Bitems said earlier, Jack Lemmon is incredible, but so are Kevin Spacey, Ed Harris and Alan Arkin. I was especially impressed with how great Harris and Arkin were together, and I'm sad this is the only movie they've appeared in together. This movie is filmed theater done right. I also really like that the two 'acts' have very distinct color schemes, with the night being dominated by darkness, and bright red and neons, and the next day having a more bright tone and looking slightly washed out, as the early morning sun shines in through the windows. - RandallODim's Wall of Shame: The Rules of the Game (1939) - Wikipedia says it's a comedy about the French upper-class just before World War II. Sounds interesting. Robinson Crusoe On Mars (1964) - Blind bought the Criterion. Looks like it's gonna be beautiful, but don't know anything else other than monkey in a space suit. 8½ (1963) - Let's keep the Fellini train going with a movie about making a movie, shall we? Stagecoach (1939) – Not sure I've watched a John Ford film before, and it's a faux pas to start with The Searchers, so Stagecoach it is! Sunrise (1927) - It's the last thing in the TSPDT Top 10 that I haven't seen and that isn't on my list, and I dug Nosferatu, so let's do it! (It's nothing like Nosferatu is it) Sunset Boulevard (1950) - I was told I had to put it on my list, so I guess I'm ready for my close-up. The Bicycle Thief (1948) - Another that I know for a fact I've been told I need to see, but just haven't yet. Aguirre, the Wrath of God (1972) - Herzog and Kinski! It's a favorite of a friend, and I really need to watch more Herzog. World On A Wire (1973) - I got the Bluray during a Criterion sale, might as well actually watch it! Pierrot le Fou (1965) - I watched Breathless and wasn't entirely blown away, so I'm interested to see if another Godard will click with me. RandallODim's Shame Was Reduced By 11: 2001: A Space Odyssey, Sanjuro, La Strada, The Seventh Seal, Solaris, The Godfather Part II, The Shawshank Redemption, 12 Angry Men, Vertigo, Tokyo Story, Glengarry Glen Ross
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