SHAMEFUL: The greatest movies you've never seen

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Zogo: Jul 29, 2003

RandallODim posted:

Sunset Boulevard (1950) - I was told I had to put it on my list, so I guess I'm ready for my close-up.

This is still one of my favorites from the thread. It's frequently on TV and I always have to watch a little of it.

The Philadelphia Story - The story takes place mostly on the eve of a wedding. The film has a lot of stars and nearly all of them play dysfunctional, cynical and scoundrelly characters. The rest of the cast come across as a few dunces.

I didn't find too much of it to be funny but the ending was kind of a surprise. I don't have much else to say on this one for some reason.

Academy Award for Best Picture (81/85 completed):

1933 Cavalcade - Some call this the worst Best Picture winner. A 6.2 rating on IMDb kind of backs that up. 5/4/13

1931 Cimarron - It has the lowest IMDb rating (6.0) of any Best Picture winner. 5/10/13

Procrastination (56 completed):

#46 Any Steven Seagal film - I've never seen one of these and I'm not sure where to start. 4/6/13

#58 Yankee Doodle Dandy - Been recommended in the past. 6/12/13

#59 Nashville - It's on a ton of lists. 6/19/13

#60 Giant - Something about Texas. 6/19/13

#61 Brokeback Mountain - The newest Academy Award for Best Director winner that I haven't seen. 6/22/13

new #62 Shane - Another important western. I hear it's similar to Pale Rider. 6/27/13

James Herbert Bond versus James Tiberius Kirk:

Dr. No - I saw this one ~20 years ago on VHS. I remember most of it but not the ending for some reason. 6/12/13

Star Trek: The Motion Picture - I've seen a couple of the Star Trek films but I should watch them all in chronological order of release I guess. I was a fan of TNG as a kid and probably saw 15-20% of the shows. I revisited the show later and it was still good. I also saw some of the original series from the 60s and I vividly remember Kirk fighting a lizard man. I tried some of the other TV series and couldn't get into them at all. 6/8/13

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# ? Jun 13, 2024 11:23

Old Ash: Dec 29, 2012

Zogo posted:

Dr. No - I saw this one ~20 years ago on VHS. I remember most of it but not the ending for some reason. 6/12/13

I haven't seen any of the other films on your list, but this is one of my favorite Bond films. I hope you enjoy it!

I've been wanting to join in this thread for a while but finally sat down and made a list today. I'm excited to start!

1. The Passion of Joan of Arc - I really enjoyed Dreyer's Vampyr, and this has a notably high position on the Sight & Sound list. It's also widely considered one of the best films ever by pretty much everyone, as far as I can tell. I've always avoided older films like this, for whatever reason, but I'd like to start watching older, silent films.
2. Tokyo Story - Ditto re: it's placement on the S&S list. I know nothing about it or Ozu, but its another one that I've seen praised by basically everyone and just haven't felt the urge to watch it. Seeing as how I'd like to start working my way through the Sight & Sound list while I've got a lot of time this summer. This, as with Joan of Arc, seems a good place to start.
3. The Texas Chainsaw Massacre - I'm a huge horror movie fan, but I have not seen this for whatever reason. Probably the last "big" horror film that I haven't seen. Let's remedy that!
4. The Rules of The Game - I need to watch more French cinema.
5. Casablanca - An admittedly HUGE gap for me. My roommate says its the best film ever made (or at least close to it). Is it?
6. The Searchers - I'm pretty unfamiliar with the Western genre, and I've always heard great things about this one (like that it's one of the few Westerns to transcend the genre).
7. L'Avventura - I love Fellini but need to see more Italian stuff. Antonioni is a big-name director that I know absolutely nothing about.
8. The Killing of a Chinese Bookie - A Woman Under the Influence blew my mind. This seems like a good follow-up.
9. Manhattan - The only Woody Allen film I've seen is Midnight in Paris. It was pretty good but I didn't think it was worth all the praise. Everyone seems shocked when I say I haven't seen any other Allen and always recommend this or Annie Hall. This is on Netflix, so I'll go with this. Interested to see what the hype is all about.
10. Spartacus - One of two Kubrick films I need to see, with the other being Eyes Wide Shut. I need to finish up his filmography and have been saving this for (close to) last, as it doesn't seem like a "true" Kubrick film based off what I've read about it. Still, I know it was a pretty big deal back in the day, and I'm interested to see how it is compared to his other stuff, as Kubrick is one of my favorites.

# ? Jun 30, 2013 06:16

Kull the Conqueror: Apr 8, 2006; Take me to the green valley,
lay the sod o'er me,
I'm a young cowboy,
I know I've done wrong

Old Ash posted:

5. Casablanca - An admittedly HUGE gap for me. My roommate says its the best film ever made (or at least close to it). Is it?

Sure, it's one of 'em. Let's start you off right in this thread.

Ace in the Hole (1951): I tell ya, this Wilder fella can tell a hell of a story with moving pictures. This film had what I expected from the director with regards to the technical side of its craft; the camera moves the narrative forward dynamically and passionately, offering a plethora of intelligent cinematic flourishes that speak more loudly than the script. For example, Lorraine Minosa's constant attempts to escape her wretched, desolate way of life on the bus are so perfectly realized visually that you don't even have to see her face to know her struggle. Another shot that comes to mind is this wide angle of tourists departing a train and scurrying towards the bustling new town, the view panning across to the left with them, eagerly and frighteningly seeking Chuck Tatum's fabricated notion of "human interest." I'm not sure what's more nightmarish about this film, the mindless, hedonistic masses gathering for fallacious satisfaction, a woman trapped in a life and a marriage that she is powerless to escape, a man whose aspirations of success supercede his morality, or the fact that there's a perfectly decent human being dying in a cave in the midst of all of it. There's a slight drag to the picture early on, and I think Tatum's death at the end was kind of an awkward way to conclude things, but there's so much to love about this movie. 80/100

1. Spirit of the Beehive: I have so very little exposure to Spanish film.

2. The English Patient: Elaine sure didn't like it but then again I don't think I'm on the same page with her about Sack Lunch.

3. My Night at Maud's: I've never seen any Rohmer and he's getting recommended to me enough that I'm willing to at the very least put him on this list now.

4. The Best Years of Our Lives: I go where Myrna goes.

5. The Bad Sleep Well: There's always more Kurosawa, until there isn't, I guess.

6. Faust: I was thinking the other day about how cool I thought Murnau was despite having only seen two of his movies.

7. Harlan County, USA: I was sick the day they showed this in college and I always regretted missing it.

8. La Dolce Vita: Sweet Christ, this is long.

9. The Battle of Algiers: I've neglected this one despite various recommendations from lots of trustworthy folk.

10. Red River: I'm pretty sure I've seen this, but I was probably 6 or 7 and don't remember a thing about it.

_{Watched - The Godfather Part II (95), City of God (95), Paths of Glory (85), North by Northwest (95), The Bridge on the River Kwai (90), Fanny and Alexander (100), 8 1/2 (85), The Rules of the Game (80), His Girl Friday (75), The Wages of Fear (90), Rashomon (95), Stroszek (90), The French Connection (85), Singin' in the Rain (95), Cries and Whispers (90), Grand Illusion (95), Gaslight (85), Aliens (80), Wild Strawberries (90), Scenes from a Marriage (85), M (75), Tokyo Story (80), Blue Velvet (80), Nashville (90), The Great Dictator (85), Forbidden Planet (100), Satantango (85), The Apartment (70), Shane (85), Sunrise: A Song of Two Humans (90), Harakiri (90), Mulholland Dr. (90), The Hidden Fortress (85), Three Colors: Blue (90), Nostalghia (85), Throne of Blood (90), Aguirre: The Wrath of God (90), The Color of Pomegranates (70), Yi Yi (85), The Exterminating Angel (80), L'Atalante (90), Hiroshima mon amour (80), The Double Life of V�ronique (95), Ace in the Hole (80)}

# ? Jun 30, 2013 17:38

Chili: Jan 23, 2004; college kids ain't shit; Fun Shoe

Alright, I got through La Dolce Vita, and got through it is exactly the way I need to phrase this. This was an impossible movie for me. I could tell there were things about it that were brilliant but I couldn�t access them. I had such a hard time paying attention to this film, after each �episode� I pretty much had to consult Wikipedia to tell what was going on. Usually, when I did I realized that I hadn�t, in fact, missed anything, that all that I saw was what was intended. I couldn�t understand a lot of the significance of what I was seeing.

Of course, the film does bring a lot of that to a head at the end when things start to get real, but my goodness was it a chore getting there.

This movie made me feel dumb, or at least not very bright.

Pretty? Yes.

Well acted? Yes

Captivating? Not so sure.

I�m happy I saw it, but I wouldn�t recommend it to anyone. I think this probably a movie that you need to want to see to enjoy. If I had to guess, I'll come back to this later and feel differently once I've experienced life a little more.

7/10

I watched another movie�

Let�s talk about Chop Shop. I knew nothing about this film going in, and that is the absolute best way to watch it. If you haven�t seen it, and want to see something that you will probably love, stop reading this and put it on your list.
Otherwise�

What a beautifully candid piece of film. I seriously can�t stop thinking about it. Every detail, every component� they�re all just beautifully executed. The story is compelling and presented with such honesty and care that it becomes more and more
compelling with each passing second.
And when I say that Alejandro Polanco, the child actor charged with playing the protagonist, Ale, is perhaps the best actor I�ve seen over the past ten years, know that is not a compliment I throw around lightly.

He was that good, the movie was that good, and apart from it being a touch obvious at times, it was truly stellar.

If I ever could make a film, this is the sort that I would love to make.

I have to thank Ebert for this one, it was on his list of great movies, that was all I knew going in.

9.5/10

New List

1. The Buddy Holly Story - Apparently, Gary Busey believes that the spirit of Buddy Holly possessed him during the filming of this. I'm interested.

2. Tokyo Story - Another classic I need to see. Don't know much about it.

3. When Harry Met Sally - I'll have what she's having, right?

4. Bad Lieutenant: Port of Call - New Orleans - Nicolas Cage

5. The Fall - Heard it's good from a friend, trailer looks pretty.

6. *NEW* Senna *NEW* - Heard this about some car jesus that everyone in the world reveres outside of the USA.

7. Duck Soup - I still think I'm the biggest source of shame in this thread. This film, and a lot of others that are yet to come often find their way onto first time posters list. Anyway, I've always liked what I've seen of the Marx brothers, never tried a full length film of theirs though.

8. The Man Who Wasn't There - So I've actually seen this, but I hated it. I saw it when I was 16 though, and I was wrong about most things when I was 16. I only really remember the ending, and something about a piano... Anyway, continuing along with my quest to complete the Coens!

9. *NEW*Kelly's Heroes *NEW* - This is a movie I am almost SURE I will love. Old school war films are pretty much my favorite... I don't know why or how I missed this, please pick it for me!

10. Rebecca - Time for more Hitchcock!

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Kull, I don't think I could, in good conscience, recommend LDV to you, even though it's the only movie I've seen on your list as I just had a bitch of a time with it. It is indeed that long and if you have any reservations, I'd be cautious.

Actually, you know what? I've seen the Spirit of the Beehive. Think I saw it in a college film course. I don't remember much about it, but I think I liked it, so go with that.

Chili fucked around with this message at 21:03 on Jul 1, 2013

# ? Jul 1, 2013 06:35

Meaty Ore: Dec 17, 2011; My God, it's full of cat pictures!

Chili: I recommend you try the Duck Soup.

As for my list:

1. Gone With the Wind--I've tried watching this a few times, and have seen bits and pieces here and there, but I honestly feel nothing but utter moral revulsion for the premise.

2. The 400 Blows--Really, I haven't seen any of the big New Wave movies, and it's a big, goatse-esque gaping hole in my film-viewing experiences; truthfully I could fill out my 10 with just these, but I should probably start small and grow from there. :downsrim:

3. Chinatown--I've seen the very end once or twice and had no idea how things got to that point, though I've been curious. I just never got around to watching it. Personal opinions regarding Mr. Polanski aside, I understand he generally makes very good movies, and at any rate I still enjoy The Fearless Vampire Killers.

4. M--I liked the other big Fritz Lang movie I've seen (Metropolis), I like Peter Lorre, so why the hell haven't I seen this yet?

5. Manhattan--I'm no stranger to Woody Allen movies, but again, I've never had the opportunity to catch it. It was always on TCM when I was growing up at too late an hour for me to watch.

6. Soylent Green--Perhaps a stretch calling this one a "great movie" that I haven't seen, but really all I know is what the titular substance is made of.

7. Stagecoach--It put John Wayne on the map, and all these years later I still have yet to see what all the hubbub was about.

8. Breakfast at Tiffany's--I've tried watching on several occasions but got too bored every time. Also Moon River is the goddamn blandest song.

9. The General--My only experiences with Buster Keaton have been cameos in Sunset Boulevard and It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World, and I've never had the opportunity to see him in his prime.

10. The Godfather Part II--I've seen the original plenty of times, but only saw an edited-for-TV version of this one once when I was too young to be able to really follow what was going on.

# ? Jul 2, 2013 01:04

Magic Hate Ball: May 6, 2007; ha ha ha!
you've already paid for this

Meaty Ore posted:

1. Gone With the Wind--I've tried watching this a few times, and have seen bits and pieces here and there, but I honestly feel nothing but utter moral revulsion for the premise.

Wait, why?

# ? Jul 2, 2013 01:18

Meaty Ore: Dec 17, 2011; My God, it's full of cat pictures!

I've always had the impression that the whole movie was essentially an apology for the South under the Confederacy: painting a picture of the well-heeled upper class in general as the height of civility, where the slaves were treated so well they actually liked being enslaved, and how dare the northern brutes mess up this wonderful little world the beautiful people and their rightful chattel inhabit.

# ? Jul 2, 2013 01:33

TychoCelchuuu: Jan 2, 2012; This space for Rent.

Meaty Ore posted:

I've always had the impression that the whole movie was essentially an apology for the South under the Confederacy: painting a picture of the well-heeled upper class in general as the height of civility, where the slaves were treated so well they actually liked being enslaved, and how dare the northern brutes mess up this wonderful little world the beautiful people and their rightful chattel inhabit.

That's an interesting reading of a film you haven't seen but I'm not sure it's the most plausible one.

# ? Jul 2, 2013 01:38

Meaty Ore: Dec 17, 2011; My God, it's full of cat pictures!

TychoCelchuuu posted:

That's an interesting reading of a film you haven't seen but I'm not sure it's the most plausible one.

Maybe (and probably) not, but as I said, I've seen bits and pieces, and none of it really seemed to give my any other impression.

# ? Jul 2, 2013 01:40

Magic Hate Ball: May 6, 2007; ha ha ha!
you've already paid for this

There's definitely weird racial stuff but the actual story is more like a sort of southern Richard III.

# ? Jul 2, 2013 02:16

Meaty Ore: Dec 17, 2011; My God, it's full of cat pictures!

Guess I know how I'll be spending my 4th of July, then.

# ? Jul 2, 2013 02:31

Chili: Jan 23, 2004; college kids ain't shit; Fun Shoe

Meaty Ore, take The General, it's one of my favorite movies that I got out of this thread, it's a true gem, enjoy.

Boy was Duck Soup an uncomfortable experience. I�m sure my reservations with the film will be nothing new but I guess I�ll spell them out a bit. And yes, I know this film is old as hell, and what it was doing was probably incredibly revolutionary and groundbreaking� that didn't make it any easier to watch.

The humor is insanely contrived, it may be good, it may be bad, but jesus� All of Groucho�s jokes are set up and packaged so neatly that it just reeks of a writer�s room. Add to that just how incredibly mean this film is. I really couldn�t get over it. George Carlin once said of the Marx Brothers that they were a huge influence on him because they were essentially the first people to turn the trauma towards everyone else. He certainly wasn�t exaggerating. The early scenes with Harpo and Chico are especially incriminating. People are just trying to do basic things and they�re being huge assholes for no real reason.

We laugh at mean things like The Stooges, Abbot and Costello, and even Jackass when they are tormenting one another not the innocent bystanders around them. I respect that this was a new approach, and I won�t deny that these guys had talent, but I think they are greatly outdone by their fellow comedians of the day, both in approach, and raw talent.

I liked when parts of the movie turned into a musical, but I�m not sure what the aim was there. There wasn�t quite enough of it to give the film the feel of a musical which made the few songs feel awkward.

Anyway, certainly a good cinematic experience from a �know your roots� perspective, but I can�t say I got much more out of it, I didn�t laugh once. Also *Harpo pulls a pair of scissors out of his rear end and cuts the review short*

6/10

New List

1. The Buddy Holly Story - Apparently, Gary Busey believes that the spirit of Buddy Holly possessed him during the filming of this. I'm interested.

2. Tokyo Story - Another classic I need to see. Don't know much about it.

3. When Harry Met Sally - I'll have what she's having, right?

4. Bad Lieutenant: Port of Call - New Orleans - Nicolas Cage

5. The Fall - Heard it's good from a friend, trailer looks pretty.

6. Senna - Heard this about some car jesus that everyone in the world reveres outside of the USA.

7. *NEW* A Funny Thing Happened On The Way To The Forum *NEW* - The Producers is my favorite comedy of all time, and I haven't seen anything else with Zero Mostel.

8. The Man Who Wasn't There - So I've actually seen this, but I hated it. I saw it when I was 16 though, and I was wrong about most things when I was 16. I only really remember the ending, and something about a piano... Anyway, continuing along with my quest to complete the Coens!

9. Kelly's Heroes - This is a movie I am almost SURE I will love. Old school war films are pretty much my favorite... I don't know why or how I missed this, please pick it for me!

10. Rebecca - Time for more Hitchcock!

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# ? Jul 2, 2013 04:23

Kull the Conqueror: Apr 8, 2006; Take me to the green valley,
lay the sod o'er me,
I'm a young cowboy,
I know I've done wrong

Chili posted:

I respect that this was a new approach, and I won�t deny that these guys had talent, but I think they are greatly outdone by their fellow comedians of the day, both in approach, and raw talent.

You are a monster.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XoR5oHdhZM

# ? Jul 2, 2013 07:22

Alfred P. Pseudonym: May 29, 2006; And when you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss goes 8-8

Chili, random numbers dictate that you watch When Harry Met Sally.

Planet of the Apes is fantastic. Of course I knew the ending beforehand by cultural osmosis, but it still hits hard and you can feel the film building up to it in the final scenes. At times it feels a bit like a Twilight Zone episode, which is probably attributable to Rod Serling writing the early drafts of the script. There was a lot more depth to this than I was expecting based on having seen numerous parodies before. The theme of science vs. faith is still as relevant as ever. Taylor shacking up with a primitive woman who doesn't understand speech seems pretty scummy, though. Overall, I really loved this movie and it's pretty much exactly what sci-fi should be.

Are the sequels any good?

The List:

1. Oklahoma!: I am not big on musicals at all but I live in Oklahoma and have been told that it is some kind of crime against humanity that I haven't seen this.

2. L�on: The Professional: I think this is about an assassin or something.

3. The Conversation: The last John Cazale movie I haven't seen.

4. Cool Hand Luke: I guess society has "failed to communicate" how much I should watch this movie :downsrim:

5. Shane: Another essential western.

6. Trainspotting: A lot of people I know seem to really like this.

7. North Dallas Forty: I've been told that this is the best football movie ever made. I like football and movies.

8. The King's Speech: I borrowed this from the library a few weeks ago but the DVD was scratched and gave out halfway through. I liked what I did see, though.

9. Miller's Crossing: There's still a few Coen brothers movies I haven't gotten to yet.

NEW 10. The Artist: I saw 10 minutes of this once and rolled my eyes pretty hard at it but I should probably give it another chance.

Watched (35): Goodfellas, Rear Window, Rashomon, The Searchers, Lawrence of Arabia, American Psycho, The Usual Suspects, L.A. Confidential, Unforgiven, Once Upon a Time in America, Blue Velvet, Schindler's List, Vertigo, First Blood, The Sting, Annie Hall, Twelve Monkeys, The Deer Hunter, Rain Man, Chinatown, Glengarry Glen Ross, Patton, Brazil, Casino, Scanners, Black Swan, Superman, Spartacus, The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance, Seven Samurai, Double Indemnity, The Thing, Aguirre The Wrath of God, Badlands, Planet of the Apes

# ? Jul 2, 2013 07:29

TychoCelchuuu: Jan 2, 2012; This space for Rent.

Check out Shane.

Out of the Past was great noir. Robert Mitchum and Kirk Douglas are in a lot of great movies.

1) Mr. Smith Goes to Washington (1939) - This movie always reminds me of Can Mr. Smith Get to Washington Anymore?, a self-righteous documentary by one of the "little guys" who, a while after the documentary was made, was convicted for violating federal election law and lying about it. So hopefully Jimmy Stewart won't be as much of a letdown.

2) His Girl Friday (1940) - Is this anything my like My Man Godfrey?

3) Union Station (1950) - It has William Holden, right? So I should probably also check it out.

4) Stalker (1979) - As of adding this entry I have two Tarkovsky movies on the list. Endless shame etc.

5) Body Heat (1981) - I want to see some Lawrence Kasdan that isn't Lucas-related.

6) Hard Eight (1996) - This thread gave me There Will Be Blood, which I enjoyed, so I think I'll be going through Paul Thomas Anderson chronologically, because I haven't see any of his other movies.

7) Amores Perros (2000) - When I was in college, one of my roommates watched this with some friends of ours. I was nearby but not paying attention (I had headphones on) but afterwards I caught their reaction - our friends sounded uncomfortable by what they had just seen, and my roommate thought it was pretty good. My roommate has good taste and likes weird stuff, and these friends are ones that don't really go for the more out-there stuff, so on the off chance I dislike this at least it will potentially be interesting.

8) Almost Famous (2000) - I think this is about teenagers or something.

9) 4 Months, 3 Weeks and 2 Days (2007) - I've seen... two? Romanian films and enjoyed them both, so based on statistic extrapolation, I will enjoy every Romanian film.

10) Waltz with Bashir (2008) - I've heard good stuff.

_{Deshamed: In a Lonely Place (98), The Seventh Seal (97), Full Metal Jacket (96), Last Year at Marienbad (95), Seven Samurai (95), Heathers (94), Lawrence of Arabia (93), There Will Be Blood (93), The Brothers Bloom (92), Aguirre: The Wrath of God (92), Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (92), Sweet Smell of Success (91), Nostalghia (91), Play Time (91), Schindler's List (91), The Long Goodbye (91), Blue Velvet (90), Out of the Past (90), Once Upon a Time in the West (90), 8 1/2 (89), City of God (89), Badlands (89), Das Boot (88), Videodrome (88), The Exterminating Angel (87), 99 River Street (87), Goodfellas (87), M (86), High Fidelity (86), A History of Violence (86), The Maltese Falcon (85), Rififi (84), Midnight Cowboy (84), Crimes and Misdemeanors (84), The Treasure of the Sierra Madre (84), Touch of Evil (83), The Social Network (83), The Last King of Scotland (82), City Lights (82), Slacker (82), Vertigo (81), Breakfast at Tiffany's (81), Unforgiven (81), The Man Who Fell to Earth (79), Raising Arizona (77), The Lady Vanishes (76), Boyz n the Hood (76), The Man Who Knew Too Much (60)}

TychoCelchuuu fucked around with this message at 08:03 on Jul 2, 2013

# ? Jul 2, 2013 08:00

Chili: Jan 23, 2004; college kids ain't shit; Fun Shoe

Kull the Conqueror posted:

You are a monster.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XoR5oHdhZM

OK, that was very good. It wasn't in the movie.

Also, I've heard before that Harpo was the brains behind the entire operation, which I find to be pretty cool.

I'm not saying they weren't talented, I'm saying as for that vaudevillian type of act, I had seen better.

# ? Jul 2, 2013 13:40

Chili: Jan 23, 2004; college kids ain't shit; Fun Shoe

Alfred P. Pseudonym posted:

Are the sequels any good?

The only other Planet of the Apes film I saw was Rise of the Planet of the Apes, and it was really good. It's been met with with general goon approval as well. It's not the same kind of movie, but it is a very well done film, and Andy Serkis is incredible. It does also raise some questions, but nothing as punchy as the original. It's worth a check though, it's enjoyable if nothing else.

# ? Jul 2, 2013 13:43

TrixRabbi: Aug 20, 2010; Time for a little robot chauvinism!

Tycho, I have not seen very many Romanian films but 4 Months, 3 Weeks, and 2 Days is definitely the best I have. (It might be the only one I've seen though, but it's really loving good. And depressing.)

So Jules and Jim grew on me as it went along. I enjoyed the first 10 minutes but started to get annoyed with the characters very quickly. However, after WWI and the movie changes tone I actually enjoyed it much more, although I had some distractions while watching it that may have prevented me from getting into it as much as I could have. I normally don't get angry at a movie for a character making stupid decisions but I was getting really pissed off with Jim at the end. He seemed to be pretty adamant that he was done with Catherine but kept going back. The thing is I didn't get any sense of desperation, I felt like he was just going because he was thinking "maybe we can just be friends again and it'll be fun" which makes sense until she tried to kill him. Still, I liked the progression and growth the characters go through, although it's nowhere near The 400 Blows, which is the only other Truffaut I've seen.

My List:

L'Age D'or (1930) - Some early Bunuel. I think Dali was involved with this too so I'm on board. (Added 3/11/2013)

The Grapes of Wrath (1940) - I should probably go for a classic western given the discussion, but I'm gonna go with a different John Ford film. (Added 3/15/2013)

Tokyo Story (1953) - Highest on the TSPDT Top 1000 that I haven't seen. Make me cry, Ozu! (Added 4/24/2013)

Stroszek (1977) - Dedicating a spot to all the films that I own on DVD but still haven't seen. Picked up the Anchor Bay Herzog sets awhile ago and I still haven't watched all of them. (Added 5/1/2013)

Once Upon a Time in Anatolia (2011) - I use Criticker's "remembered films" tool and my list has grown to over 200 movies. Going to try and start chipping into it from the ones that have been there the longest. I have no idea what this is about but I've heard great things. (Added 5/17/2013)

Gone With the Wind (1939) - I always forget about this one for some reason. Also it's four hours long. (Added 5/25/2013)

My Darling Clementine (1946) - Trying to see more John Ford. (Added 6/20/2013)

Barry Lyndon (1975) - A Kubrick I haven't seen. I also own it and need to chip away at that pile of unwatched DVDs faster. (Added 6/25/2013)

Faust (1926) - I'm going to keep a slot for silent films on my list, and Murnau has been one of my favorite silent directors making two of my favorites (The Last Laugh and Sunrise). This one looks good and eerie. (Added 6/26/2013)

The Goddess (1934) - I've been watching The Story of Film: An Odyssey and it does a good job at bringing light to some foreign classics that have been almost entirely ignored by the West. I've never seen a Chinese film from this era and it apparently has some early naturalistic film acting. (Added 7/3/2013)

_{Watched: Harold and Maude; The Third Man; Inland Empire; Godzilla; Big Trouble In Little China; Y Tu Mam� Tambi�n; Marathon Man; Hunger; A Woman Is A Woman; Black Narcissus; A Hard Day's Night; Scarface; Le Doulos; On The Waterfront; Rocky; 3 Women; Airplane!; Duck Soup; Clash of the Titans; Singin' In The Rain; The Cow; Straw Dogs; Stop Making Sense; Bad Timing; Once Upon A Time In America; Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade; Robocop; Shane; WALL�E; The 36th Chamber Of Shaolin; The Man Who Fell To Earth; Mr. Smith Goes To Washington; Divorce Italian Style; Some Like It Hot; To Kill A Mockingbird; An American Werewolf In London; Buffalo '66; Lawrence Of Arabia; Manhattan; Cul-De-Sac; The Birth of a Nation; Braveheart; Sex, Lies, and Videotape; Malcolm X; Ghost Dog: The Way of the Samurai; The Passion of Joan of Arc; The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King; Le Samoura�; The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance; Marat/Sade; His Girl Friday; A Woman Under the Influence; Close Encounters of the Third Kind; Rio Bravo; Triumph of the Will; Titanic; Strike; The General; Jules et Jim (TOTAL: 59)}

# ? Jul 3, 2013 19:18

Chili: Jan 23, 2004; college kids ain't shit; Fun Shoe

Go with Tokyo Story, I hear it's supposed to be pretty great and it's on my list as well.

Ok, so I really liked Harry Met Sally, but I can totally see how some people have to hate it. It�s basically a Woody Allen film, just not quite as good. I was raised Jewish and was surrounded by plenty of nebbishy Jewish friends and realtives, so I was very well primed for this movie. Lord knows I still to this day have friends who talk like Harry.

Anyway, apart from that, I thought it was a pretty decent love story, bit by the books, but I liked that it spanned over a decent stretch of time and showed us two people who weren�t ready for each other and how they get there.

Apart from that, the weight and bulk of the film is on dialogue, I can�t even recall where most of the scenes were or many of the other plot points, it�s just dialogue. Crystal and Ryan had a good rapport and sold me, for the most part.

While I did enjoy the dialogue, I was left wanting more. I�m not generally one to dive into films that are billed as �romances�, I usually need something else to sink my teeth into, like with the questions about relationships raised in Eternal Sunshine, or the backdrop of The General.

That doesn�t make Harry Met Sally bad for not having much else, but just a little shallow of an experience for me.

Still good.

8/10

New List

1. The Buddy Holly Story - Apparently, Gary Busey believes that the spirit of Buddy Holly possessed him during the filming of this. I'm interested.

2. Tokyo Story - Another classic I need to see. Don't know much about it.

3. *NEW* The Thing *NEW* - All I know is that it's John Carpenter and that it's a lot of fun.

4. Bad Lieutenant: Port of Call - New Orleans - Nicolas Cage

5. The Fall - Heard it's good from a friend, trailer looks pretty.

6. Senna - Heard this about some car jesus that everyone in the world reveres outside of the USA.

7. A Funny Thing Happened On The Way To The Forum - The Producers is my favorite comedy of all time, and I haven't seen anything else with Zero Mostel.

8. The Man Who Wasn't There - So I've actually seen this, but I hated it. I saw it when I was 16 though, and I was wrong about most things when I was 16. I only really remember the ending, and something about a piano... Anyway, continuing along with my quest to complete the Coens!

9. Kelly's Heroes - This is a movie I am almost SURE I will love. Old school war films are pretty much my favorite... I don't know why or how I missed this, please pick it for me!

10. Rebecca - Time for more Hitchcock!

67 Total De-Shamed

_{_{Yojimbo 7.5/10, Aliens 6.5/10, Brazil 8/10, Cool Hand Luke 9.5/10, 28 Days Later 6/10, Predator 8/10, Blade Runner 7.5/10,Crimes and Misdemeanors 9/10, Vertigo 7/10, Being There 7.5/10, Psycho 10/10, Apocalypse Now 7.5/10, Citizen Kane 8.5/10, Dr. Strangelove 7/10, Close Encounters of the Third Kind 8.5/10, The Bicycle Thief 7/10, Raging Bull 8/10, Ikiru 10/10, Terminator 2: Judgement Day 7/10, The Night of the Hunter 8.5/10 How to Train Your Dragon 6.5/10, There Will Be Blood 8/10, Manhattan 7/10, Rashomon 8.5/10, Unforgiven 8.5/10 The Third Man 9.5/10, Requiem For A Dream 4/10, Charade 5.5/10, Sunset Blvd. 8/10 , Badlands 6.5/10, Dead Man 8.5/10, On The Waterfront 9/10, Mad Max 6/10, Singing' In The Rain 9.5/10, Sleeper 7.5/10, Enter The Dragon 6.5/10, The Hustler 8/10 , The Town 9/10, Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas 5.5/10, Boogie Nights 7.5/10, Hanna 8.5/10, The Conversation 7.5/10, Serpico 8/10, Hoop Dreams 9/10, Confessions of a Dangerous Mind 8/10, Blood Simple 7.5/10, Roman Holiday 8.5/10, Miller's Crossing 8/10, M 7.5/10, Moonrise Kingdom 6.5/10, Rope 7/10, Tiny Furniture 1/10, On The Town 5.5/10, Gosford Park 5.5/10, Rise Of The Planet Of The Apes, 8.5/10, City Lights 8.5/10, The Exorcist 6.5/10, California Split 7/10, Aguirre, The Wrath Of God 8/10, Following 8/10, The General 10/10, Barton Fink 8.5/10, Tombstone 8/10, The Hudsucker Proxy 9/10, Love Actually 6.5, La Dolce Vita 7/10, Chop Shop 9.5/10, Duck Soup 6/10, When Harry Met Sally 8/10}}
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# ? Jul 4, 2013 05:45

TychoCelchuuu: Jan 2, 2012; This space for Rent.

Try Tokyo Story on for size.

4 Months, 3 Weeks and 2 Days was really good. One of the most affecting parts was the ending - the two women sitting in the restaurant, and then at one point it becomes apparent that we are seeing them from the street, because headlights start reflecting in the window and we hear the sounds of the cars as they drive by. Already the process of distancing themselves from the events of the day has begun, but at the same time the intrusion of society into their lives is pointed out for one last time. They're visible to the entirety of the outside world through that glass, and we can see it all, just like we've seen everything so far. The hand held camera, lack of any soundtrack, and complete absence of anything even remotely preachy or judgmental was great too. The film really succeeds in capturing just what's there and making it feel like what we want it to feel like.

1) Mr. Smith Goes to Washington (1939) - This movie always reminds me of Can Mr. Smith Get to Washington Anymore?, a self-righteous documentary by one of the "little guys" who, a while after the documentary was made, was convicted for violating federal election law and lying about it. So hopefully Jimmy Stewart won't be as much of a letdown.

2) His Girl Friday (1940) - Is this anything my like My Man Godfrey?

3) Union Station (1950) - It has William Holden, right? So I should probably also check it out.

4) The 400 Blows (1959) - This is probably in the top 10 "films usually cited as the greatest films" that I haven't seen. I know nothing about it either.

5) Stalker (1979) - As of adding this entry I have two Tarkovsky movies on the list. Endless shame etc.

6) Body Heat (1981) - I want to see some Lawrence Kasdan that isn't Lucas-related.

7) Hard Eight (1996) - This thread gave me There Will Be Blood, which I enjoyed, so I think I'll be going through Paul Thomas Anderson chronologically, because I haven't see any of his other movies.

8) Amores Perros (2000) - When I was in college, one of my roommates watched this with some friends of ours. I was nearby but not paying attention (I had headphones on) but afterwards I caught their reaction - our friends sounded uncomfortable by what they had just seen, and my roommate thought it was pretty good. My roommate has good taste and likes weird stuff, and these friends are ones that don't really go for the more out-there stuff, so on the off chance I dislike this at least it will potentially be interesting.

9) Almost Famous (2000) - I think this is about teenagers or something.

10) Waltz with Bashir (2008) - I've heard good stuff.

_{Deshamed: In a Lonely Place (98), The Seventh Seal (97), Full Metal Jacket (96), Last Year at Marienbad (95), Seven Samurai (95), Heathers (94), Lawrence of Arabia (93), There Will Be Blood (93), The Brothers Bloom (92), Aguirre: The Wrath of God (92), Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (92), Sweet Smell of Success (91), 4 Months, 3 Weeks, and 2 Days (91), Nostalghia (91), Play Time (91), Schindler's List (91), The Long Goodbye (91), Blue Velvet (90), Out of the Past (90), Once Upon a Time in the West (90), 8 1/2 (89), City of God (89), Badlands (89), Das Boot (88), Videodrome (88), The Exterminating Angel (87), 99 River Street (87), Goodfellas (87), M (86), High Fidelity (86), A History of Violence (86), The Maltese Falcon (85), Rififi (84), Midnight Cowboy (84), Crimes and Misdemeanors (84), The Treasure of the Sierra Madre (84), Touch of Evil (83), The Social Network (83), The Last King of Scotland (82), City Lights (82), Slacker (82), Vertigo (81), Breakfast at Tiffany's (81), Unforgiven (81), The Man Who Fell to Earth (79), Raising Arizona (77), The Lady Vanishes (76), Boyz n the Hood (76), The Man Who Knew Too Much (60)}

# ? Jul 4, 2013 07:29

Magic Hate Ball: May 6, 2007; ha ha ha!
you've already paid for this

The Testament Of Dr. Mabuse

Oh my god this movie owns bones. I've only seen two films by Lang now, this and M, and apparently one came right after the other. I can see the similarities - the crosscut conversations (and really amusing match cuts), the crime-cop back-and-forth, the detailed way the investigations play out - but there's something almost pop-art about Mabuse. It's got a freewheeling pulpy feel, almost as if it were adapted from a comic book, with this big cast of distinct characters that get into situations that play like isolated vignettes that just happen to be linked together and intercut. Except for a lull right before the last act it's insanely entertaining, even if the separate elements take a while to come together (the first, like, twenty minutes is really confusing). There's also a fun pop-art style to the cinematography. Obviously Fritz Lang and expressionism go pretty hand in hand but then you get stuff like the car chase at the end and the really terrifying bug-eyed ghost of Mabuse that give the film a huge boost of energy, which is necessary for a lot of the police procedural scenes. I mean, seriously, look at this:

It's great. It's like Manhunter circa 1933.

10/10

this list is as shameful as michael fassbender's penis

1) Weekend - Traffic jams, cannibals, and something about the language of cinema?

2) The River - I know almost nothing of Jean Renoir.

3) The Naked City - noir, noir, apple

4) Stray Dog - More modern-day Kurosawa can't be a bad thing.

5) Scream - The call is coming from inside the house. Or whatever. This movie is old, man.

6) Dogtooth - Black comedy about an isolated family?

7) Four Lions - I love black comedy, the blacker the better.

8) The Sacrifice - A merry fellow he was, that Tarkovsky.

9) La Haine - This seems like something I should be obligated to see.

10) Night And Fog - uh oh

_{_{Jules et Jim 6/10, Saving Private Ryan 9.5/10, Fitzcarraldo 9/10, The 39 Steps 7/10, Notorious 7/10, Run Lola Run 8/10, Downfall 7.5/10, The Searchers 7.5/10, Tokyo Story 7/10, Gone With The Wind 10/10, Touch Of Evil 9.5/10, Ikiru 7.5/10, The Apartment 7/10, Bicycle Thieves 7/10, Moon 7/10, The Color Purple 7.5/10. The French Connection 9.5/10, The Leopard 8/10, Yojimbo 8.5/10, Sanjuro 8/10, Das Boot 8.5/10, The Conformist 8/10, Breathless 9/10, Where The Wild Things Are 7.5/10, Vertigo 9/10, Raging Bull 10/10, Ordet 7/10, City Of God 9/10, The Wages Of Fear 9/10, Aguirre, The Wrath Of God 9/10, The Mirror 9.5/10, Through A Glass Darkly 10/10, On The Waterfront 6/10, The Straight Story 9/10, Lawrence Of Arabia 8.5/10, Dial M For Murder, 8/10 Winter Light 10/10, The Silence 9/10, Badlands 8/10, The Wrong Man 7/10, In The Mood For Love 9.5/10, Secret Honor 10/10, Gosford Park 10/10, Viridiana 7.5/10, The Exterminating Angel 9/10, Seven Samurai 10/10, Rashomon 9/10, The Godfather: Part II 10/10, La Dolce Vita 10/10, The Princess Bride 9/10, Bringing Up Baby 7/10, City Lights 9/10, Baraka 7/10, Au revior les enfants 8/10, Bonnie And Clyde 6.5, Hiroshima mon amour 8/10, Lost In Translation 10/10, The Piano 8/10, La Strada 7/10, Safety Last! 10/10 Vivre sa vie 9/10, Band Of Outsiders 8/10, Diary Of A Country Priest 7/10, Mommie Dearest 8/10, Once Upon A Time In The West 10/10, L'Atalante 7/10, All About My Mother 7/10, Shoot The Piano Player 8/10, Faces 10/10, The Passion Of Joan Of Arc 10/10, The Wild Bunch 6/10, Harold And Maude see my review, Pink Flamingos 8/10, Heat 10/10, Raising Arizona 7/10, L'Avventura 2/10, Atlantic City 9/10, The Magic Flute 9/10, Cleo From 5 To 7 9/10, Down By Law 10/10, Hoop Dreams 10/10, 2 or 3 Things I Know About Her �8/10?, La jet�e 9/10, Night Of The Living Dead 9/10, Cool Hand Luke 6/10, Pather Panchali 10/10, The Terminator 6/10, The Trial 10/10, Exit Through The Gift Shop 10/10, The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance 7/10, The Phantom Carriage 10/10, Au Hasard Balthazar 3/10, The African Queen 10/10, My Night At Maud's 10/10, The Testament Of Dr. Mabuse 10/10 (total: 95)}}

TychoCelchuuu gets The 400 Blows. I don't like it very much but maybe you will.

# ? Jul 5, 2013 20:53

Zogo: Jul 29, 2003

Magic Hate Ball posted:

9) La Haine - This seems like something I should be obligated to see.

Only one I've seen from your list but it's worth seeing especially for the old man in the bathroom.

Alfred P. Pseudonym posted:

Are the sequels any good?

They're hit-or-miss from what I've heard.

Dr. No - I remember seeing this but now that I'm older I appreciate it a lot more. This has style immediately from the opening credits. The theme is immediately recognizable and iconic.

Bond might be the most overly masculine and virile character I've seen. It seems a little silly that he has to have an intimate physical relationship with nearly every woman he speaks to (friend or foe, timely and untimely). He's cool under pressure and also has quips after near-death experiences (unlike Barry Nelson in that 1954 television episode).

I wasn't sure why Bond shot that professor before trying to get him to talk. That didn't seem smart.

Dr. No is a saboteur of US space projects. He is half German and half Chinese so we get two ethnicities to vilify for the price of one. We finally meet Dr. No (actually only his feet and hands) 84 minutes into the film. Bond has a short philosophical and political debate at dinner with Dr. No and it quickly ends with Dr. No dismissing Bond as "a stupid policeman."

Bond gets lucky a few times and some scenes are hard to believe (relatively easy escape through the tubes as one example) but I'm sure later movies have even more outlandish escapades. By the end of the film the CIA operative comes across as looking lazy.

PS http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNRuysQVfJc

also watched:

Brokeback Mountain - A few of the characters had a proclivity towards mumbling so I had to leave the subtitles on for the duration. There's tons of idyllic scenery in the first half of the movie while Ennis and Jack start their relationship out in confusion and denial. It felt like it ran kind of long.

With all the complaining, arguing and fighting throughout the film it was kind of depressing (best exemplified in the needless football/TV dinner argument between Jack and L.D.). In this regard I was reminded of Ang Lee's earlier film The Ice Storm.

Side notes:

-Ennis is a pretty bad liar and I'm not sure why Alma bothered with the charade.

-After about the fifth scene involving Ennis giddily preparing to go fishing with Jack I found it humorous.

-That shot of Ennis at the fireworks show stuck out as an iconic shot.

-The killing of Jack Twist was a shock. And even after his death his father seemed to be hostile towards him.

Under Siege - I didn't know if anyone would ever select a Seagal film so curiosity got the best of me. It's pretty derivative but I still found it enjoyable. Gary Busey plays his typical insane character. However, Tommy Lee Jones isn't usually a villain.

Steven Seagal plays the role funnily. He first comes across like a pompous cook with a chip on his shoulder for no reason but he eventually proves his merit by taking on approximately 100 bad guys. He's so good at killing people and evading harm that it's detrimental to the film. He's like a super Rambo inserted into the plot of Die Hard (this time on a battleship). He also turns a pacifist playmate (Erika Eleniak) into a trained killer.

There's some oddities in the plot I could pick apart (why is that WWII-era guy on the ship?) but it doesn't seem like the kind of film to do that too rigorously on. I'll definitely watch a couple more Seagal movies in the future.

Academy Award for Best Picture (81/85 completed):

1933 Cavalcade - Some call this the worst Best Picture winner. A 6.2 rating on IMDb kind of backs that up. 5/4/13

1931 Cimarron - It has the lowest IMDb rating (6.0) of any Best Picture winner. 5/10/13

Procrastination (58 completed):

#58 Yankee Doodle Dandy - Been recommended in the past. 6/12/13

#59 Nashville - It's on a ton of lists. 6/19/13

#60 Giant - Something about Texas. 6/19/13

#62 Shane - Another important western. I hear it's similar to Pale Rider. 6/27/13

new #63 The Rock - Keep forgetting to watch this one. I remember it being popular at its release. 7/5/13

new #64 Lost Highway - I haven't seen a Lynch film in a while. 7/5/13

James Herbert Bond versus James Tiberius Kirk:

new From Russia with Love - Now we're in uncharted territory. I don't believe I've seen any other Bond films fully except possibly Live and Let Die. 7/5/13

Star Trek: The Motion Picture - I've seen a couple of the Star Trek films but I should watch them all in chronological order of release I guess. I was a fan of TNG as a kid and probably saw 15-20% of the shows. I revisited the show later and it was still good. I also saw some of the original series from the 60s and I vividly remember Kirk fighting a lizard man. I tried some of the other TV series and couldn't get into them at all. 6/8/13

# ? Jul 5, 2013 22:19

The broken bones: Jan 3, 2008; Out beyond winning and losing, there is a field.

I will meet you there.