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Can we get Flags on every street corner? That's gotta revitalize our knitting industry.
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Covski posted:Yup, income tax is where the real money is. It really hurts us with the large middle income voting block though (slightly more than half the voters), so you do have to be careful when raising, it however.
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May 17, 2014 17:42
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A_Raving_Loon posted:A boost to income tax. The rest of this poo poo is loving pennies compared to that, more good for social engineering than making money. Even Carbon Tax? That sounds like money maker (if there were any factories to tax, I guess...?).
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May 17, 2014 17:47
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Carbon is one of that adds up nice. Things like sins, luxuries, and plastic bags are not big money compared to those.
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May 17, 2014 17:57
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Don't forget the drawbacks of raising income tax though. 1.) Taxing the populace more means that they have less money to spend, less money being spend means less spending which is bad for our GDP. 2.) Obviously we're already in a brain drain situation due to a tax system which is punitive to the wealthy. Increasing their tax burden will increase the rate at which they leave the country. This may eventually result in a reduction in income due to there being a significantly lower number of people paying the top rate of income tax. 3.) Frankly it's electoral suicide. Honestly I'd strongly suggest leaving it where it is due to reason 1 alone. Our GDP is already in the toilet, we need people spending. Covski, I don't suppose there's anything to stop people physically leaving the country or, failing that, cutting down on tax avoidance?
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May 17, 2014 18:21
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I vote for compulsory work for the unemployed. It sounds like a decent idea and it's way better than going through the mindnumbing boredom of nothing while waiting, and in some cases even hoping, to find a job.
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May 17, 2014 19:55
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Namtab posted:Covski, I don't suppose there's anything to stop people physically leaving the country or, failing that, cutting down on tax avoidance?
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May 17, 2014 22:42
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If that's what it takes
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Carbon tax is a *huge* moneymaker in the short term, at the expense of pissing off everyone and hurting the GDP - but if you can't mollify everyone and fix the GDP with a fraction of that money it's probably because you embezzled it all. The only problem is having to keep your curtains closed and staying away from grassy knolls until the capitalists calm down, so you might want to earmark some of the carbon money for your Secret Service. It also kills it's own income in the long run since it directly reduces carbon being released, but that's tomorrow's problem.
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May 18, 2014 00:45
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Punitive tax on superstores
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May 18, 2014 07:57
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Compulsory work for the unemployed, even if that means digging ditches and filling them back up again.
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May 18, 2014 08:24
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Chwoka posted:Compulsory work for the unemployed, even if that means digging ditches and filling them back up again.
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May 18, 2014 11:25
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Poil posted:Fool, have you forgotten our great party's motto? There is only one option for what work they will be doing. Yeah, what he posted is more in line with compulsory military service.
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May 18, 2014 11:29
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Poil posted:Fool, have you forgotten our great party's motto? There is only one option for what work they will be doing. Filling holes is one of our nation's most righteous forms of work. Pow!
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People posted:Stuff about carbon tax/income tax These guys are pretty much completely right. I imagine carbon tax is actually a bit more harmful since it straight-up hurts GDP a lot as well as pissing off everyone, moreso than income taxes. We could get a maximum of around 60 Bn out of carbon taxes last I checked (screenshots a couple of pages back), but it is hard to evaluate since it kills its own income pretty quickly. Namtab posted:Covski, I don't suppose there's anything to stop people physically leaving the country or, failing that, cutting down on tax avoidance? Unfortunately, not as far as I'm aware. The closest we could get is a welfare fraud department, but that's more about stopping the poor from taking our money than stopping the reach from taking their money and leaving. I vaguely remember there being a special "tax avoidance" situation, but it's currently not active. anilEhilated posted:Can we get Flags on every street corner? That's gotta revitalize our knitting industry. Definitely, but it will have to wait until next turn when the rules are normalized. For the record, it functions similarly to the national anthem policies, though also annoying ethnic minorities a bit.
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What happens if we close the airports? I imagine that it hurts GDP and possibly harms foreign relations, but there must be some positive to it.
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 Yup, it's all sorts of hurtful. I guess it's really good for the environment and keeping those immigrants out, if you want to have some form of totally isolationist nation or something.
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May 18, 2014 20:14
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Could we close off all transportation leaving the country to stop the brain drain?
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May 18, 2014 20:20
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Chwoka posted:Could we close off all transportation leaving the country to stop the brain drain? Maybe if brain drain actually modeled people leaving the country, instead of it just lowering certain statistics.
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Yeah, the game really doesn't model actual population outside the elections (and the specifics of how the election mechanics work technically is a mystery to me). The simulation really doesn't do hard numbers at all, to be fair. Unrelated, but this article reminded me of this thread for some reason. Also, I read in the news that the law enforcement here are looking into starting to use police drones 
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How do the retired feel about us? If we where to remove the state pensions (and fix our debt woes) would they still vote for us? Or are they too far gone/small to care about?
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 The retirees are one of our strongest supporter groups at the moment - though this is largely because of the generous pensions. Still, they're not a very large group and we could probably cut back on the system a decent bit without hurting our election chances too badly. Since I will have PC turned off for the major budget rearrangements I'll be doing this turn, I can fiddle around a lot making small adjustments to many policies at once. This again touches upon my largest gripe with this game: The PC costs are the same whether you raise the taxes one percent or seventy five percent, meaning that you basically have to make really drastic changes to certain policies if you need to balance the budget in a hurry. It's pretty stupid, and becomes quite apparent in this LP format since we're really not afforded the luxury of planning ahead very well.
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Covski posted:we could probably cut back on the system a decent bit without hurting our election chances too badly. Pretty sure seniors are the most active voters according to everything I have ever read. Loving the thread, made me get the game. I have in like 10 tries won one election by severely cutting income tax and riding the wave to election day. Even though I would argue that in my other 9 attempts I left the country in a better state. Game should have a North Korea Version where you get 99.9% of the vote and get to hang the one person who misspelled your name. I suggest introducing carbon taxes as it will allow you some time to do the other stuff you need to / want to.
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Holy poo poo, things have really crashed and burned since the last time time I checked this thread. I'm voting for the Namtab Austerity Package, or, increase mansion tax to maximum if that's not a thing we can vote for. If increasing mansion tax won't actually be helpful then I'll change my vote.
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So there was no update this weekend since I've been constantly busy. Next one will be a big one though - between the budget reshuffle (I'll also take the opportunity to purge the cabinet of the last remnants of reactionism) and us entering an election year, this will probably be the biggest update yet! Thank you for your patience 
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Caufman posted:Filling holes is one of our nation's most righteous forms of work. Pow! Ugh, no, they'll be put to work making more lederhosen you fools. 
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What's 'complacency' in that screenshot?
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Bloodly posted:What's 'complacency' in that screenshot? Complacency in the Democracy series is usually meant to be a measure of how complacent people are during elections. Like, if they think there's no point voting so they don't even show up. I'm not sure if that's what we're seeing here, because I don't know why retirees would be unhappy about complacent voters, and despite searching I can't find any actual 'situation' known as complacency, but it's about the only thing it could be.
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LJN92 posted:I'm not sure if that's what we're seeing here, because I don't know why retirees would be unhappy about complacent voters, and despite searching I can't find any actual 'situation' known as complacency, but it's about the only thing it could be. "You kids these days just sit on your asses and let this country slide into the toilet! When I was your age, I knew the value of my vote, and that it counted, goddammit!" 
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TheObserver posted:"You kids these days just sit on your asses and let this country slide into the toilet! When I was your age, I knew the value of my vote, and that it counted, goddammit!" We were fighting in wars so you could have the vote sunny. And only 30 - 60% turn up on election day makes me sick. Sick I tell ya
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Actually I think Covski already mentioned that it was just that people will slowly GET complacent, you need to constantly be improving the nation or the voters will think you are a party that sits on their asses collecting cheques.
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 National Anthem At Start Of News, maximum level - TheMcD chooses! TheMcD Implement mansion tax, maximum level, 26 PC, +11.56 Bn per quarter - (6)+4=10 votes TheMcD, TheMcD, Senerio, Wagrid Double petrol tax, 36 PC, +14 Bn per quarter - (5)+2=7 votes Ahundredbux, Ahundredbux Remove ban on sunday shopping, 21 PC, no budget change - 5 votes Implement carbon tax, maximum level, 39 PC, +61.03 Bn per quarter - (3)+2=5 votes Banemaster, ally_1986 Implement tourism ad campaign, 2 PC, -280 Mn per quarter - (3)+1=4 votes Broenheim Reduce state health spending, X PC, +20 Bn per quarter - (1)+2=3 votes Nyaa, Namtab Compulsory work for the unemployed, -X per quarter, - 2 votes Poil, Chwoka Cut state pensions, +X per quarter, - 1 vote Caufman Boost income tax, +X per quarter, - 1 vote A_Raving_Loon Punitive tax on superstores, +X per quarter, - 1 vote Eumenides ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Implement CCTV Cameras, maximum level, 28 PC, -2.55 Bn per quarter - 7 votes Maximize Monorail Funding, 8 PC, -0,40 Bn per quarter - 4 votes Restrict drug policy to legal LSD, 20 PC, no budget change - 4 votes Implement food stamps, 4 PC, -1.89 Bn per quarter - 3 votes ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Realizing the severe crises that threatens Germany's survival the Bundestag grudgingly grants the LFAP emergency powers, enabling the government to take drastic action.  The first move is to rearrange the cabinet, quietly removing the public services minister who couldn't be trusted to carry out the necessary changes with sufficient enthusiasm.  A suitable replacement was quickly found.  As a surprising side effect of the LFAP's carte blanche The McD Act is passed, stipulating that all news programs must be prefaced by the newsreader singing the national anthem. There is a bit of uncertainty as to the Lederhosen Party's reasoning behind the decision as well as its relevance to the economic crisis, but there is an astounding lack of uproar about it. Unconfirmed rumors circulate that the party also intend to change the anthem in the near future, but government officials decline to comment on the issue.  The long-planned mansion tax is implemented, levying a harsh tax on homes over a certain value.  The petrol tax is also increased, though analysts claim this shouldn't have a very noticeable effect on the GDP. Motorists are still annoyed, of course.  The ban on Sunday shopping is finally lifted, in hopes of stimulating the economy. Pissing of the religious is mostly regarded as a side benefit at this stage.  A moderate carbon tax is introduced. Most voters see this less as an environmental effort and more as the next step in the LFAP's quest to tax everything that moves.  The new tourism campaign is a success, featuring among other things complementary guidebooks covering the best brothels in all major cities.  The state health services are scaled back, but are still quite decent compared to many other countries.  Effective immediately, a program of mandatory work for the unemployed is instituted. People are given a choice between work in the brothels or the lederhosen factories, depending on their inclinations. Some columnists talk of a return to the anti-unemployment policies of the 30's.  The state pensions are also cut down. Critics talk about this will only worsen the rampant poverty, but desperate times call for desperate measures.  There is also a slight increase of the general income tax. Public opinion suffers a bit, but not as much as it will do if the debt crisis isn't resolved.  What is left to tax? Superstores, why not!  As per the Namtab austerity act, the scale of the housing program which is still under development is cut down a bit.  Even the pet monorail program sees its budget lowered.  Finally, even the drone program is scaled down, not having had as large an effect as hoped. With the emergency programs enacted, the government crosses its collective fingers and waits.  TURN 12  The religious finally give the LFAP recognition for their hard work.  A new crisis appears as the unemployed are forming gangs in the cities' slums, finding no way to escape poverty.  Actually, poverty is the cause of most of Germany's problems. We may want to bite the bullet and cut down the alcohol tax when we can afford it.  The economy is looking better though. We are showing a sizable surplus for the first time in forever, and the global economy seems to be on the upswing. If we can maintain this, we should hopefully be able to recover from the debt crises which is really wrecking us.  Most of the large expenditures have been cut down. Notice how the inner city riots and alcohol abuse (both primarily caused by poverty) add up to our fifth larges cash sink.  A few new points here on the income tab, as well.  The austerity measures didn't hurt as much as I expected, actually. The only huge drop is the retirees, suffering from the double punch from lower pensions and mansion taxes. They're not a huge group though, so we should be okay. Oh, and did I mention we are now officially in an ELECTION YEAR? Winning this will be tough, but I don't think it's impossible if we don't get any more really terrible events. As long as we can resolve the debt crises (which we have already begun to do), and roll out the pork-barrels we can do this. I'll make a couple of posts with election information as well as suggestions on cheap and popular policies in the near future.LEGISLATION TIMEWe have all of 38 PC available! The current agenda (some of these may not be the best ideas given our situation): ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Implement CCTV Cameras, maximum level, 28 PC, -2.55 Bn per quarter - 7 votes Maximize Monorail Funding, 8 PC, -0,40 Bn per quarter - 4 votes Restrict drug policy to legal LSD, 20 PC, no budget change - 4 votes Implement food stamps, 4 PC, -1.89 Bn per quarter - 3 votes ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Again, I'll post more about the election and give some suggestions later, so you have a little more to go on! Covski fucked around with this message at 14:10 on Jun 30, 2014 |
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So I had a terrible idea and decided to post it. No idea about the melody though. Lederhosen sind wunderbar Lederhosen sind schön Lederhosen sind das Leben Welche Türme herrlich über alles? Lederhosen! Was strahlt wie ein Stern im Himmel? Lederhosen! Was sind wir alle tragen? Lederhosen! Lederhosen sind wunderbar Lederhosen sind schön Lederhosen sind das Leben Warum bist du traurig? Wir haben Lederhosen für alles Warum habe alles Spass? Alles habe Lederhosen Lederhosen sind wunderbar Lederhosen sind schön Lederhosen sind das Leben Wir haben Prostituierte in Lederhosen Wir haben Drogen in Lederhosen Wir haben Halsbart in Lederhosen Lederhosen sind wunderbar Lederhosen sind schön Lederhosen sind das Leben Lederhosen sind wunderbar Lederhosen sind schön Lederhosen sind das Leben My only regret are my poor german skills and I had to rely on google translate. I'm so sorry for butchering the langauge. 
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Poil posted:Lederhosen sind wunderbar I think this should work - but there's no German term for "neckbeard". Anyway, cut the Alcohol tax by half. I think we can afford this right now, and going into an election term, we need an election platform, and "booze for everybody" sounds like a great idea.
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We need someone to round up those street gangs of poors and unemployed and put them to work, but we need to do it politely. Increase funding for the police force and community policing to the maximum.
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xelada posted:Actually I think Covski already mentioned that it was just that people will slowly GET complacent, you need to constantly be improving the nation or the voters will think you are a party that sits on their asses collecting cheques. Yup, this is the case. If a particular voter group is very happy for a long time, they will start to get complacent. It's basically a "but what have you done for me lately?" issue, since even though they are pleased with the state of affairs they aren't seeing any improvement either. I have no idea how this works mechanically if their situation gets worse, as is the case with our retirees at the moment. Worth mentioning again: The sorta opposite of complacency is cynicism, which is the result of cancelling (and possibly lowering) policies that you have implemented. This somewhat prevents the strategy of announcing new policies just before an election, and cancelling them before you win though this is (as we shall hopefully see) still a viable strategy! Poil posted:awesome national anthem Hahaha, this is hilarious to me. I'll definitely add this to the OP! Poil, you can consider yourself a Party Official of the LFAP! You know the drill, double votes every turn and choose a spiffy title for yourself!
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Covski posted:
This is what happens when you don't Support Are Drones!! Restore Drone Funding until these crime waves are under control.
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