Fire Emblem: Binding Blade. Yes, the one with Roy in it.

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Shei-kun: Dec 2, 2011; Screw you, physics!

vilkacis posted:

gently caress THE 16 COLOUR PALETTE LIMIT

Let's not say things we can't take back.

# ? Jun 19, 2015 07:24

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vilkacis: Feb 16, 2011

Bellmaker posted:

I need this as an avatar.

I think this should work.

Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:

Unfortunately all FE6 threads get is me.

I should explain: Clarine has eyestalks because I did it once and I have a canon goddammit.

I'd ask why she had eyestalks to begin with, but I can't imagine knowing would make it any more magical.

W.T. Fits posted:

Also, for Gale, I figured you would have gone for the character from Digital Devil Saga.

He has not proven himself worthy of the honour. :colbert:

Onmi posted:

No, they do run away, but for someone only tackling the map for the second time you did well... Except for the Pegasi, if this is like 11A (which is this same map but even more chaotic) then talking to Tate with Thany means the pegs suicide on enemies. Talking to her with Klein when she's still an enemy tends to make her subordinates run away.

Huh.

I tried not rescuing one of the pegs the first time. She got doubled and one-rounded by a brigand.

A brigand. Ilia's finest, right there.

Lisandra_brave posted:

YOU TAKE THAT BACK RIGHT THIS INSTANT

Shei-kun posted:

Let's not say things we can't take back.

I mean every word of it! The 16 colour palette limit hates black people.

# ? Jun 19, 2015 08:29

Onmi: Jul 12, 2013; If someone says it one more time I'm having Florina show up as a corpse. I'm not even kidding, I was pissed off with people doing that shit back in 2010, and I'm not dealing with it now in 2016.

vilkacis posted:

Huh.

I tried not rescuing one of the pegs the first time. She got doubled and one-rounded by a brigand.

A brigand. Ilia's finest, right there.

Oh yeah they're just awful. Okay so... let me crack open these events.

code:

CharacterBasedEvents:
CHAR 0x4 label21 [0x26,0x38]
ASME 0x5 label22 0x6BE01
CHAR 0x6 label23 [0x1,0xF]
CHAR 0x6 label24 [0x2,0xF]
ASME 0x8 label25 0x6BE61
ASME 0xA label26 0x6BE31
CHAR 0x8 label27 [0xF,0x2E]
CHAR 0xB label28 [0x2,0xF]
CHAR 0xB label28 [0xF,0x2]
END_MAIN

Which one of you are Tate and Thany... the ones with the complex ASM

Okay so the first one just lets Thany recruit Tate like what happened in playthrough one, but only if Label26 has activated I think

code:

label25:
MUS2 0x33
TEX1 0x955
REMA
CUSI 0x2E 0x0
ENUT 0xA
CUSI 0xD9 0x40
CHAI 0xD9 [0x6,0xC,0x0,0x0]
MURE
ENDA

label26:
MUS2 0x12
TEX1 0x956
REMA
CUSI 0x2E 0x40
CUSI 0xD9 0x40
MURE
ENDA

Yeah, not all that easy to understand.

# ? Jun 19, 2015 09:51

Shei-kun: Dec 2, 2011; Screw you, physics!

vilkacis posted:

I mean every word of it! The 16 colour palette limit hates black people.

That... that explains a lot, actually. I was WONDERING why everyone in the game was the exact same skin tone in the GBA games.

# ? Jun 19, 2015 10:53

Bellmaker: Oct 18, 2008; Chapter DOOF

vilkacis posted:

I think this should work.

You are a wizard and a saint :perfect:

Bellmaker fucked around with this message at 13:10 on Jun 19, 2015

# ? Jun 19, 2015 13:07

Dwarsen: Jan 27, 2004; Dungeon Master

vilkacis, you're probably the funniest motherfucker on these forums. Or at least a top ten candidate. Well, what I'm trying to say is that I'm enjoying the hell out of this thread. Never change, I beg of you.

Blogkb - because you too like video games, old and new (it's just a blog)

# ? Jun 19, 2015 14:52

vilkacis: Feb 16, 2011

Onmi posted:

Yeah, not all that easy to understand.

I understand none of it :downs:

Shei-kun posted:

That... that explains a lot, actually. I was WONDERING why everyone in the game was the exact same skin tone in the GBA games.

See?! And you guys defended it. For shame.

Bellmaker posted:

You are a wizard and a saint

I think I'm more likely to promote into a Sage if I'm a wizard.

Dwarsen posted:

vilkacis, you're probably the funniest motherfucker on these forums. Or at least a top ten candidate. Well, what I'm trying to say is that I'm enjoying the hell out of this thread. Never change, I beg of you.

I'll do my very best!

# ? Jun 19, 2015 16:38

FPzero: Oct 20, 2008; Game Over
Return of Mido

It's not easy to make black people in these games, you have to rely on reshaded sprites because so often are skintones shared with horses, boots, gloves, belts and more horses. I think I got lucky with this one, but I know the Pirate version definitely uses a reshade.

Ignore the fact the sprite is all chopped up, that's how the game cuts it up when you go to insert them back into the rom.

# ? Jun 19, 2015 16:53

Onmi: Jul 12, 2013; If someone says it one more time I'm having Florina show up as a corpse. I'm not even kidding, I was pissed off with people doing that shit back in 2010, and I'm not dealing with it now in 2016.

vilkacis posted:

I understand none of it

Well MUS is Music of course, TEX calls a text function, REMA is sort of like a pause function to space it out.

Now CUSI is change army and 0x2E is Tate, 0x0 is Player. ENUT makes the event ID used, now D9 is Tates allied Pegasi, so it turns them allied (0x40) and then CHAI is Change AI, which changes their AI to "Run like heck" over "Engage and Suicide" MURE fades out the music and ENDA ends the event!
So that's what happens if you talk to Tate with Thany after Thany has talked to Tate when you've recruited Klein (Turns Tate blue and her pegs green)

Now if you just talk to tate, it just turns her Allied and turns her pegs Allied... except it leaves their AI as "Charge the enemy and stab their face." so they go suicde on everything.

FPzero posted:

It's not easy to make black people in these games, you have to rely on reshaded sprites because so often are skintones shared with horses, boots, gloves, belts and more horses. I think I got lucky with this one, but I know the Pirate version definitely uses a reshade.

Ignore the fact the sprite is all chopped up, that's how the game cuts it up when you go to insert them back into the rom.

Temps also done it for Garret, and I know Arch has done it for his hack as well. So it's entirely doable.

# ? Jun 19, 2015 17:48

yokaiy: Dec 25, 2012; What a handsome tree!

How am I just now discovering that there are/were like 4 Fire Emblem LPs going on here?!

Decided to read yours first because ~~it was shortest~~ you're cool, and oh boy, I do not think I made the wrong choice here. :allears:

vilkacis posted:

Sigh... Youthful energy. Where does it come from?

Probably the asskicking pants. In one of the pockets, with the resolve.

And let me start by saying that this mental image would not leave my head.

vilkacis posted:

Also, I think I may have lost my poo poo at these two.

# ? Jun 19, 2015 18:42

vilkacis: Feb 16, 2011

FPzero posted:

It's not easy to make black people in these games, you have to rely on reshaded sprites because so often are skintones shared with horses, boots, gloves, belts and more horses. I think I got lucky with this one, but I know the Pirate version definitely uses a reshade.

Ignore the fact the sprite is all chopped up, that's how the game cuts it up when you go to insert them back into the rom.

Anything with gold trim also shares shades with skin.

I mean I do consider it an interesting challenge to make a decent sprite within the constraints of a GBA palette, but... sometimes it's just obnoxious as gently caress.

I did think a little about our old buddy Ephraim, and here's my take.

Cannibalizing the cape lining and using the darkest leather as the lightest skin colour is enough to get four dark skin shades. Turning the gold trim white (using the colour of the pants) and turning the gloves into gauntlets also works, and I think that actually leaves one whole extra colour.

Still, if we had just 20, he could have leather gloves, gold trimmed armour and his Dracula cape together with darker skin.

Onmi posted:

Now if you just talk to tate, it just turns her Allied and turns her pegs Allied... except it leaves their AI as "Charge the enemy and stab their face." so they go suicde on everything.

Okay so I kinda understand that, but it's giving me a headache.

quote:

Temps also done it for Garret, and I know Arch has done it for his hack as well. So it's entirely doable.

Doable, yeah. Pain in the rear end, though.

yokaiy posted:

How am I just now discovering that there are/were like 4 Fire Emblem LPs going on here?!

Isn't there always like 4 Fire Emblem LPs going on here?

quote:

Decided to read yours first because ~~it was shortest~~ you're cool, and oh boy, I do not think I made the wrong choice here.

quote:

And let me start by saying that this mental image would not leave my head.

You go and spray your entire army with that bottle, Roy. Don't stop until everyone has a frowny face ~~and a beard~~.

# ? Jun 19, 2015 20:55

Jen X: Sep 29, 2014; To bring light to the darkness, whether that darkness be ignorance, injustice, apathy, or stagnation.

oh cool, the other incredible poster from the fe8 lp is here now too

# ? Jun 19, 2015 21:15

vilkacis: Feb 16, 2011

Chapter 11: Flight Toward Freedom or, Hunka Hunka Borin' Love

So to get back to what we should actually be doing...

Here's chapter 11.

Caldonia is one of the main islands that make up the Western Isles, the other two being Fibernia and Dia.

I will, by the way, be continuing off the save where I did loving Everything on chapter 10, because, well, it's there. Also I'm pretty sure I'm going to want to promote both Wolt and Dorothy anyway, so having two of the necessary items won't exactly hurt.

Not sure how I'll handle future maps where I miss poo poo, I want to say that this is a one-time offer, but I can't actually say that :v:

Anyway.

awaiting transport to Eburacum, the Mine of Death. When Roy arrives at Castle Edina, the situation appears dire...

The map is not too terribly large or complicated...

...but there are some complications, including another berserker (not on a throne or gate this time!) who could put the hurt on some unlucky person,

...this rear end in a top hat,

...and his almost as assholish mate down here. We won't even be able to leave our starting island without getting into their reach. I wanted to get my peg knight on, but with the horrible ballista death aura covering half the map, that would mean letting them sit in the upper right corner trembling with fear for like half the fight and that would be boring.

So instead, I'm going with some of our tried and tested non-flying units, and Fir again because I still cling to the vain hope that I'll be able to use her at some point.

These four fuckers pop in as soon as the map begins.

A-are you sure about this? If we get caught we're-

Don't be stupid! If we stay, we'll be worked to death! You're just going to lie down and take that? Don't you have a family or something back home?

Yeah...

"Well I have a Lucina body pillow, that counts as 'or something' right?"

There are people coming to help us from the northeast. We just have to make it there in one piece!

Strangely, these guys are not going to be the problem with this map.

Meanwhile, in the castle on the lower left...

...Then there must be a traitor among us. Morgan!

Yes, Lord Arcardo.

I will return to Jutes. Don't let them escape. Send more hands to the mines as well. I can't afford to lose more workers!

If any of these guys bothered to chase after the NPCs, there would be nothing we could do to help them.

Happily, they are content to sit there until we're more or less in sniping range.

Roy's boys (and girls, etc) start in the top-right corner, as I'm sure you remember from the neat little minimap.

Yes, that is Castle Edina. The people kidnapped on the Isles are first sent there. They are then taken to Eburacum and forced to work in the mines. As it happens, today is the weekly shipment of captives to the mines. It will be difficult to rescue them once they've been sent off.

Then you're saying we have to rescue them now!

Yes. I already had some spies infiltrate the castle and help the people escape.

What will the captives do once they're out?

I told them to send the captives to the northeast. In other words, our present location.

Then we must rescue those people before sieging the castle.

Before we can rescue the people, we need to murder everything that stands between us and them.

I mean we might be able to talk to these fine people and persuade them to see the error of their ways or something but that would take effort and that's not how we roll.

You may also notice something unusual about this picture.

A mysterious bard who supports the resistance on the Western Isles.

This asshat is hanging out on the right side.

With growths of HP 80, Str 5, Skl 5, Spd 65, Lck 65, Def 25, Res 55, Elphin claims to be a lover, not a fighter. I'm not sure about the former, but he is absolutely right about the latter. Don't let Elphin get hit. He will die horribly and then where will you be?

...

You know what actually-

let's just move on. So you all know what a dancer does, right? Elphin does the same thing, except his command is called "play".

And boom, you've traded Elphin's turn in exchange for your most awesome unit (or sometimes maybe just Saul) getting to go a second time. You know what this means, right? Twice the Wolt. Think about it.

The NPCs will be heading towards our starting position.

This could be problematic, because there's a berserker between them and it.

We'll need to distract him.

But there are two ways around this map, and we'll have some people going down the right side as well.

Sweet.

Sweeter.

...not as sweet. Really needing some speed on you, Lilina! I keep forgetting how goddamn slow you are!

Of course,

...the ballista bastards will be doing their damndest to get in the way. Nine damage to Jerrot isn't bad; he has 11 defence at this point, so it's 20 base damage. A lot of people will want to stay way out of range, even without a crippling weakness to arrows.

The one below goes for Chad. This does not go quite as well for it.

Getting shot at builds character.

Allen, with the other team, also builds character.

That's a lot of character.

...

Do not gently caress with berserkers. Do not. A 20+% chance to lose someone is not worth it.

Fortunately, all this one had was a steel axe. And he was worth a lot of experience points, being a promoted enemy.

Chad and...

Ogier are clearing up the last of the enemies south of the starting position.

I want to say Chad got the better of these levels.

Suddenly, enemy reinforcements! That looks worrying.

This is another promoted enemy, an advanced shaman. He doesn't come with anything too exciting (Flux) but with 15 mag, that will hurt a physical unit.

The archer on the lower right opts to leave his ballista and shoot Chad with his normal bow. I'm okay with this. He's closer to our pointy things this way.

If the ballista guy targeted these guys at all, they would also die before we could do something about it, bar maybe a pegasus suicide charge.

Saul gets this patching up some scratches Chad took.

Suddenly, entirely expected pirate reinforcements! Good thing we're just about ready to deal with them.

Something's going on in the village, however...

The lord of that castle killed my mates. I won't let their deaths go unavenged.

You mean that crew that was always with you...

Yeah... They were taken to the mines and told that they would be given work. But they were all worked like slaves until they... died.

......

Maybe they weren't the brightest bunch, but they were good people... And then they were killed... just like that...!!

Do you intend to avenge them on your own?

Is there something wrong with that?

No... But I thought you were going to go back to your merchant business.

Yeah, well, I've got bigger problems now... Once my mates get their revenge, and once the war subsides, maybe I will.

We won't forget you, Geese. You and your crew risked your lives to get us food and supplies. If you ever need anything, we'll be here.

Maybe I'll take you up on that, if I'm still alive.
...Thanks.

That must mean I get something special if I recruit him and have him visit the village!

Geese should be able to hold his (their?) own against the pirates for a while, with both a hand and steel axe. Still, don't want to lose those experience points!

A pirate from the Western Isles, seeking vengeance for his crew.

Speaking of which, once he's recruited and can get those, his growths will be HP 85, Str 50, Skl 30, Spd 40, Lck 40, Def 20, Res 10. Ten points behind Gonzales in speed and strength - fifteen ahead in skill. Geese looks more balanced - and he can walk on water, too.

The NPCs are drawing close! ...so are their pursuers. And the ballista butthead is out of arrows. We can't kill him or his friend since no one in this group can cross mountains, but he can't do anything to us either.

The cavalry has arrived, and proceeds to miss two javelin throws. Allen...

Doesn't look like any of these schmucks can talk to Geese, so I'm having Allen kidnap him.

Surely the rest of these people are enough to handle a few more pirates.

The NPCs have passed us and are out of danger. That's because the danger will now focus entirely on us. We'll have to bring out the big guns.

Druids have these huge-rear end robes... certainly a lot different from the dark mages we've been getting lately.

And like any other promoted enemy, they're worth a lot of exp for a non-promoted character. Wolt still has a chance to cap strength, speed, and defence.

Roy gets a slightly less impressive level dealing with the shaman.

Noah gets nothing dealing with the fighter.

Suddenly... more green units?

That's right.

Then we've no time to lose. Let's begin this daring prison break, shall we?

...I'm sorry to ask for your help like this. I know you're looking for your daughter...

Don't be absurd! Consider it payment for your hospitality. I won't let some blood-sucking lord take advantage of his people! I'm Bartre the Brave, and I'll smash these puny insects!

...maybe "Alucard" would have been the best choice after all.

A warrior who cares deeply for his daughter.

No hint as to who it is? Boo.

Bartre is a disgusting prepromote, but he has a rad stache, more than 20 strength, and a brave axe. That's almost as good as Marcus' hair. His growths (because of course we can recruit him!) are HP 70, Str 40, Skl 20, Spd 30, Lck 20, Def 20, Res 5, which is pretty much worse than Geese all around. He does, however, have a pretty significant strength advantage, and doesn't cost a promotion item to use. Maybe once we're a little further in, he'll see some use.

Also, he's going to suicide on Morgan if we don't do something. Commence the doing.

Dorothy has a ballista! ...And nothing to use it on. :saddowns:

All right, you get over here-

...and then we had the full set! Getting kinda tired of carting green dudes around...

It's not as easy as just waltzing up to Morgan and running him through, though.

Good. Deploy them immediately. Spread them around the castle to defend us on all sides.

That's not very reinforcements, though they do run up pretty far into our formation.

Meanwhile, I desperately try to get some use out of Fir, but she's just so... so level 2.

Chad is a lot better.

We have reinforcements and the trio who were lazing around the castle have started to move. This guy has a Lancereaver, but no one here has a lance. Another one has an Armourslayer. We don't have that, either, although Wolt certainly likes to take hits like a knight.

Noah misses two 80% hits :sigh:

Wolt just doesn't care if they hit or miss.

Lilina had to take a sword through the everything and dodge an arrow to live. That was kinda undeserved.

Chad makes sure we don't have another close call like that.

To be perfectly honest I RNG abused until Fir got a strength level, it's either that or bench her on charges of sucking horribly and I want our little shrub to grow into a tall and beautiful tree, drat it.

Also Elphin levels up but I don't think anyone cares.

Noah's levels, meanwhile, are always welcome.

As are Lance's, especially ones with strength in them, even if there's little else.

More reinforcements!

More?!

Go away.

Okay so he won't cap speed, but strength and defence are still possible!

Okay, I think we're in the cl

son of a gently caress

An Eturian commander in charge of Castle Edina.

I get this weird feeling, like I should expect shenanigans.

Regardless, a look at Morgan since we're about to fry him. He has pretty impressive defence, but his res isn't that great. He only has a regular javelin for ranged combat, though he has both a silver axe and a horseslayer if you get up close, which could be problematic I guess. Over all, a lot nicer than a berserker ( :argh:

Hurry and kill the ones who escaped!
Wait, you're not one of my men... Wh-who are you?!

Oh, just a cameo character from a better game than yours :smug:

Morgan javelins Noah, Noah Elfires Morgan.

Even Wolt can't guarantee much against a general on a gate.

But he pulled out that a killer bow for a reason! And now Morgan is within the one-poke-with-a-rapier health range, so...

Who... are you people...?

We are people who...

...gain amazing levels by killing you!

And a decent one getting rid of the last mercenary spawn.

Jerrot gets a Jeigan Level^TM taking care of the last archer.

Well then, now that we finally have some peace and quiet, let's get to the recruiting.

I want to ask why you're fighting against the soldiers.

Who wants to know?

Roy, leader of the Lycian Army. We're here on behalf of Eturia...

You're with Eturia?! Then you're with the enemy. Get ready to die!

Roy would gut you like a fish, boy. Stand down. I didn't ~~kidnap~~ rescue your rear end just so you can go suicide on a vastly superior unit with weapon triangle advantage.

Also he still has the rapier equipped and it would be such a waste.

Slow down! We're fighting the castle's troops too.

And yet Eturia sent you? I don't understand.

I don't either. We were dent by Eturia to get rid of the bandits here, but something's strange.

...You say you're fighting the castle's troops. I'm for hire, if you'll take me.

What?

I'm a seafaring man, so I know both the land and sea around the Isles. You look a bit lost, so I could be a good guide for you.

That would help, but why?

I want to help with your mission. To be honest, I'm a pirate, so I'm probably the type you were sent to get rid of. But I only go after the rich. They have more than their fair share anyway.

Fire Emblem, are you trying to preach communism to my god-fearing american audience...?

Well then, if you'll join us, we're pleased to have you. We don't know this area at all, so it's been difficult thus far.

Sounds like we have a deal! Leave it to me!

Can you taste it? You'll have your vengeance. And after you do, I might just tag along with this Roy fellow for a while...

That's one down. Ask a stupid question, get a stupid Anser, I guess?

...no, shame on me, that was bad. Anyway.

Time for the big scary looking dude.

Y-yes...

Even Roy is intimidated, so you know he's scary looking!

We fight for the people suffering under your tyranny! En garde!

W-wait! We're on your side!

You aren't with the castle?

We're trying to capture it, actually.

Oh! Sorry then.

I am Roy, leader of the Lycian Army.

Lycia? You've come a long way...

We were sent by Eturia to rid the Isles of the bandits.

What's that?! So you are with Eturia!

Please calm yourself! We share the same goal. We want to bring peace to the Isles.

...You may end up against Eturian nobility.

...Our mission is to find and eliminate wrongdoers on the Isles. Social status matters not.

You, my friend, are a man of conviction! Very well! I think I'll join your little army!

You'll help us? Thank you!

And that's the recruitment!

Imagine my surprise when I found this in the process of trying to get Geese back over to the village where he started :downs:

I was going to say I'm not sure I see the family resemblance here.

Fir! I've been looking for you.

Then I realized how bushy this man's moustache is.

Father, I've already made up my mind. I want to become a great master of the sword like Mother...

Now it just seems natural.

That is good. I don't intend to drag you home. In fact, I want to help you on your journey.

Help me?

I know well the hardships one faces in a journey of self-improvement. I can help you get out of a bind if things get rough.

But Father, if you keep helping me, my training is meaningless.

Nonsense. With your old man around, we can practice sparring any time! Do you refuse your father's love?!

No! It's nothing like that, but...

It's settled then. But first we capture the castle.

I guess I should tell Roy that we have another member...

I think he knows. :allears:

Klain's white gem comes in real handy here. Elphin came with a blue one (5000 bucks) so we're pretty well stocked on tomes and vulneraries. We are running a bit low on iron swords, though...

I accidentally carried off Bartre towards the village instead of Geese. Like 8 turns down the drain...

Then please, take this. I grabbed it as I escaped from the castle. I hope everyone else made it out...

...and it turns out he doesn't even get a unique conversation. :shepicide:

Geese gets a red gem. We're selling that, too.

Oh, and turns out I never actually had this conversation on the good run of chapter 10.

there are others still suffering in the mines.

Ah well. Time to seize the castle.

That is correct. To liberate the Western Isles, we must take the capital.

Then our next destination is Jutes.
...Elphin, may I ask you something?

Of course, Lord Roy.

Pardon me if I am mistaken, but are you of high Eturian nobility?

What?!!
...What makes you think that?

I can't quite explain it, but... The way you talk sounds very educated. In Ostia, I learned how to study people and size them up. Am I right?

That's right, Roy has learned to read power levels without a scouter. :ssj:

(Elphin's is three. Barely.)

What would you do if you are?

Oh. Nothing in particular. I'm sure you have a good reason to hide your identity. You can tell me when you feel the time is right.

......

Let's head for Jutes! To save the Isles and defeat the true enemy of the people!

Indeed, comrade Roy!

But we're actually not done yet.

What?! Who are you?

Here, give this to General Roy. Thanks to him, we can see our families again.

We of the Western Isles always pay our debts of gratitude!

Tell him thanks.

We're grateful from the bottom of our hearts!

Now that was a rescue mission I don't mind doing! The Energy ring boosts either strength or magic, depending on what kind of character it's used on, so it's definitely one of the better boosters, along with the speedwings. Naturally, I intend to give this to Elphin, who really needs the boost.

But not right now. For now, we march on Jute to bring the glorious people's revolution to the corrupt bourgeoisie. We are going to paint the town... red. :ussr:

# ? Jun 19, 2015 23:06

Jen X: Sep 29, 2014; To bring light to the darkness, whether that darkness be ignorance, injustice, apathy, or stagnation.

vilkacis posted:

OH MY loving GOD

# ? Jun 19, 2015 23:15

FoolyCharged: Oct 11, 2012; Cheating at a raffle? I sentence you to 1 year in jail! No! Two years! Three! Four! Five years! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah!
Somebody call for an ant?