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CaptainSarcastic posted:I mostly just posted it in reaction to the person trying to handwave away the iPad Pro being ridiculously fragile. Yeah but what else are you going to buy? the cheap chinese phones has no support and basically stuck on the same software since launch or if you are lucky, you get some sort of update months after the exploits are already in the wild. The google pixel phone has decent software but the hardware is extremely slow compare to apple's cpu while costing almost as much as iphone, so why pay money for less performance? Dont get me wrong though if people want to use whatever phone operating system then more powers to them. I'm posting since we are just objectively discussing this topic 
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I legit want to buy a print of this
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Cool Dude 69 posted:Sup One Plus buddy. I just got one a couple weeks ago. That under the glass fingerprint reader is nice tho I was a little skeptical about it as some people were saying it wasn't very fast but it unlocks in like .2 seconds for me so I guess some people are just little too impatient. The only thing I really miss on this phone is a notification LED but oh well, that's the trade off for no bezel and a tiny notch.
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Nuts and Gum posted:Stop stealing software hth I look down and whisper "No."
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underthecube posted:someone explain to me why note taking and budgeting apps have subscription fees. the new youneedabudget costs almost 100 bucks a year lmao The new hotness is not just making a product and selling it but imposing yourself as a "service" to collect a monthly fee and thus just be part of the serf's bills/rents every month. coke posted:Yeah but what else are you going to buy? the cheap chinese phones has no support and basically stuck on the same software since launch or if you are lucky, you get some sort of update months after the exploits are already in the wild. I bought my Moto x4 for less than $200 a few months ago. It runs anything I need it to quickly and well, it has the fancy features like image/video/gif texting in the messenger and whatever, dual cameras on the back; 12 + 8 MP, iPhone XS has 12 + 12. I still dunno why I even need two cameras back there. One on the front too, obviously. Water/dust resistant, etc. The battery lasts a decently long time. It has a headphone jack. Like really what do you need the iPhone for that other phones can't do? What are you actually using it for day to day? Moridin920 fucked around with this message at 17:47 on Mar 7, 2019 |
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Moridin920 posted:I look down and whisper "No." First they came for the Hentai DVD rips, and I said nothing, for I didn't watch Hentai. Then they came the 32GB Rar files of 340p Russian Incest porn. . .
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Also re: browser chat earlier, Chrome is the worst bloated behemoth of a browser on Mac/Windows/Linux/anything desktop ever with terrible ungodly resource usage and bugs up the wazoo with an increasingly awful UI. Safari's had a checkered past, but the latest Safari 12 is an excellent lightweight browser with great privacy features and an efficient UI. Safari allows more direct access to its extension API than other browsers too, which allows for very fast, low resource ad blockers and such. Chrome literally destroys your laptop battery. My Macbook Pro gets 1.5-2 hours longer average battery life on Safari vs. Chrome and it's similar on Windows with another browser like Firefox too. It's really bad and Google blatantly has zero intention to lower resource usage to fix the laptop problems. Just use Safari, Firefox, literally any other browser on the planet because Chrome is terrible and you're enabling Google's continued development of destroying the internet on your desktop/laptop.
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I agree with you there, Chrome has gotten to be a bit of a poo poo show in the last few years with just tons of little things hosed up. Memory leaks like gently caress. Seems like most (all?) of Google's products are suffering from that.
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iFixit - we show you how to disassemble hardware if you ever need to repair it and rate its difficulty this guy - hey listen to me scratch up tablets with a razor blade for 3 minutes while I talk calmly, this is useful
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CaptainSarcastic posted:Just use Opera Don't know if  but Opera is basically just a Chrome skin now.
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Cough Drop The Beat posted:Lol. These kinds of posts where people are like "Apple is literally the worst company ever and so much worse and evil than Google and Microsoft and Facebook!!!!" are dumb as hell. Apple is bad. Google is bad. They're all bad. But it's not like you can't download any browser or other applications you want in existence on a Mac. You can even run any browser you want on an iPhone! Lmao. I see other people calling you mean things like "insufferable" and "poo poo for brains" and "illiterate mouth-breather" but I want you to know that I value your can-do  attitude. I'm going to tell the ghost of Steve Jobs that you deserve a raise because you never let facts or even common sense stand in your waye: not the shitposter that the forums deserve, but the one that it needs. Cough Drop The Beat isn't a hero, but a silent guardian QuarkJets fucked around with this message at 22:51 on Mar 7, 2019 |
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Chrome is a resource hog but Google does some good things to promote web security, for example they were one of the driving forces behind the major move to https over the last few years. And yeah opera is based on webkit now so it's the same renderer as chrome with a different UI
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Moridin920 posted:The new hotness is not just making a product and selling it but imposing yourself as a "service" to collect a monthly fee and thus just be part of the serf's bills/rents every month. the x4 has low-tier qualcomm 630 cpu, it's not even in the same league as the 8xx qualcomm here's nokia 6.1 that's using the same qualcomm 630  and  i mean sure you only spent $200 bucks on it and if you are cool with its performance then that's great
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Yep which is why it really comes down to personal preference and no one will give a gently caress about the actual numbers
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i need a phone that costs way more so i can destroy its unreplaceable battery mining crypto faster to an insignificant degree
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You can only mine JobsCoin though, but that's pointless you can also be rewarded JobsCoins by going on the internet and defending apple products (well of course no one minds the loss of the headphone jack don't be ridiculous)
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marijuanamancer posted:Chrome is a resource hog but Google does some good things to promote web security, for example they were one of the driving forces behind the major move to https over the last few years. And yeah opera is based on webkit now so it's the same renderer as chrome with a different UI I'd hope that Google promotes web security as a very high priority because they have like 65% of the browser market share and are subject to the most attack vectors. But even so if they have done actual good in the internet world, the browser itself is a trash fire, so Google gets no pass from me. WebKit itself is fine because Safari runs on the WebKit renderer too and is very efficient on resource usage, so Opera could very well be okay. Google forked WebKit themselves forever ago, which is probably part of the problem.
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Cough Drop The Beat posted:I'd hope that Google promotes web security as a very high priority because they have like 65% of the browser market share and are subject to the most attack vectors. But even so if they have done actual good in the internet world, the browser itself is a trash fire, so Google gets no pass from me. WebKit itself is fine because Safari runs on the WebKit renderer too and is very efficient on resource usage, so Opera could very well be okay. Google forked WebKit themselves forever ago, which is probably part of the problem. While Firefox is currently The Best Browser, Chrome is still very good if you have system resources to spare like most people do. There's a reason that it dominates the browser market. Chrome on ios is bad because all ios browsers are bad, because they're all actually Safari under the hood
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gary oldmans diary posted:i need a phone that costs way more so i can destroy its unreplaceable battery mining crypto faster to an insignificant degree Every app launch or page load takes a bit of time and it all adds up, so if you can save a few seconds every time why not? Also page load time is super noticeable after using a fully fledged computer and I actually wish the cpu on the iphone can be even faster to match my desktop's loading speed.
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coke posted:If your phone is faster and more efficient, you actually use less power overall and have a longer lasting battery while getting things done in a shorter amount of time They are basically as fast as desktop processors but on power efficiency they rate about the same as most Android processors (e.g. an iPhone consumes more power but over a shorter time interval, that's great but isn't going to benefit your battery life)
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Cough Drop The Beat posted:I'd hope that Google promotes web security as a very high priority because they have like 65% of the browser market share and are subject to the most attack vectors. But even so if they have done actual good in the internet world, the browser itself is a trash fire, so Google gets no pass from me. WebKit itself is fine because Safari runs on the WebKit renderer too and is very efficient on resource usage, so Opera could very well be okay. Google forked WebKit themselves forever ago, which is probably part of the problem. if you think the google chrome browser is a trash fire then i'm confident you have never seen a software trash fire
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also i don't quite follow google getting no pass from you when you just said the browser you like is built on technology built by them. No one is forcing anyone to use Chrome. It's definitely a browser by an advertiser. but it existing has channelled money towards webkit development which benefits every browser that uses it
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dow load a app for looking @ stocks or whatever stock app needs access to: -GPS location -photos -contact list ok, gently caress that one, lets try a different app. from the legit and reputable google play store. it wants access to all the above plus -camera -microphone rofl android is the hugest piece of poo poo and there is absolutely zero financial incentive for google to remove the $5.99 copies of VLC from their store that exist to trick kids using grandmas tablet so its never going to improve, ever.
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QuarkJets posted:They are basically as fast as desktop processors but they rate about the same as most Android processors (e.g. an iPhone consumes more power but over a shorter time interval, that's great but isn't going to benefit your battery life) Where do you get the idea that "on power efficiency they rate about the same as most Android processors" and "an iPhone consumes more power but over a shorter time interval"? because this is avg power vs performance  https://www.anandtech.com/show/13392/the-iphone-xs-xs-max-review-unveiling-the-silicon-secrets/4 quote:Overall the new A12 Vortex cores and the architectural improvements on the SoC’s memory subsystem give Apple’s new piece of silicon a much higher performance advantage than Apple’s marketing materials promote. The contrast to the best Android SoCs have to offer is extremely stark – both in terms of performance as well as in power efficiency. Apple’s SoCs have better energy efficiency than all recent Android SoCs while having a nearly 2x performance advantage. I wouldn’t be surprised that if we were to normalise for energy used, Apple would have a 3x performance lead. The qualcomm snapdragon (top 8xx series, not the mid 6xx series) is the best cpu out there for most non samsung smartphones and it still uses a ton of power for not much performance. coke fucked around with this message at 12:07 on Mar 8, 2019 |
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coke posted:If your phone is faster and more efficient, you actually use less power overall also the speed increase is negligible when pages load basically instantly if you block ads (and even better if you control scripts too) tempting offer spending a bunch of money every year to potentially be more efficient while bored staring at my phone though
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What do people even use their phones for that needs all these charts to show which one is more powerful? Playing games?  I bought a $200 Oppo over 2 years ago and it's still going strong, nice 1080p screen, does everything I need it to.
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gary oldmans diary posted:a speed chart does not indicate efficiency That's speed on the right and power consumption in Watt and Joules on the left, here's another one  Not sure how else you can interpret data showing higher performance while consuming less average energy is not showing efficiency. The locked down webkit is lovely but I guess that's the trade off for security and not giving too much access to extensions. Blocking ads on the router/dns level works ok too. And 'basically instantly' is still noticeably slow compare to something like a modern 6/8 core 12/16 threads 5Ghz desktop with a glob of memory. Hopefully one day the mobile cpu can be just as fast especially since websites and programs are getting more complex. Bardeh posted:What do people even use their phones for that needs all these charts to show which one is more powerful? Playing games? Simple things like loading this forum in a browser or pulling up info in a multi-page pdf file is noticeably faster on a desktop than mobile. But it's cool that a $200 devices fits your knees
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coke posted:Where do you get the idea that "on power efficiency they rate about the same as most Android processors" and "an iPhone consumes more power but over a shorter time interval"? I get that idea by reading the same plot that you've provided You notice how the Grey bars (Apple) on the left side (Energy spent per test) are sometimes longer than the other bars, but other times are shorter than them or are the same length, whereas on the right side of the plot (Processing speed) they're basically always longer? That means that while they are consistently faster they also consume the same amount of energy on average as the other processors, which is a longer way of saying what I already said. Please don't mistake this as a bad thing QuarkJets fucked around with this message at 16:54 on Mar 8, 2019 |
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I dont use an iPhone for a littany of reasons, but probably the biggest is the fact that it doesn't have an OpenXCOM port. Its so loving useful to have a time vampire in your pocket. I can travel forward hours in time anywhere at any time. It actually plays really well, which shouldnt come as a surprise considering the original game was mostly mouse driven and the low resolution translates to buttons taking up a reasonable amount of space on the screen.  I mean I get it if you don't care about video games, or if you care more about having a status symbol than having this particular game, but for me this is basically the least technical reason I can give on why I personally choose Android.
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bradzilla posted:*guy that posts exclusively in Nintendo threads* And I never even look at the other game junk cause IDGAF so your point is as dumb as the nerd slap fight you're trying to start lol. LethalGeek fucked around with this message at 17:13 on Mar 8, 2019 |
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I can appreciate the mac ecosystem because it DOES have a large amount of polish put into it for powerusers, but I can't help but feel like Apple reversed that for their phone line. I feel like without jailbreaking your iPhone, userland is so locked down and shallow that there isn't really a concept of poweruse. My phone is like a itty bitty ARM computer in my pocket. I have a file manager, a python shell, a terminal emulator and the ability to ssh into my computer at home. It's all dumb nerd poo poo that you probably don't care about, but it adds to my QoL.
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Dont Touch ME posted:I dont use an iPhone for a littany of reasons, but probably the biggest is the fact that it doesn't have an OpenXCOM port. Oh poo poo I am on this
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OXBALLS DOT COM posted:Oh poo poo I am on this Inventory management can be frustrating at times, but its a small mar on what is otherwise a flawless experience. Its not even really a battery hog, uses about as much power as a web browser.
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LethalGeek posted:And I never even look at the other game junk cause IDGAF so your point is as dumb as the nerd slap fight you're trying to start lol. Yet you're posting here 
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Dont Touch ME posted:I dont use an iPhone for a littany of reasons, but probably the biggest is the fact that it doesn't have an OpenXCOM port. you rear end in a top hat! post the apk I can't find it 
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Rutibex posted:you rear end in a top hat! post the apk I can't find it https://github.com/MeridianOXC/openxcom-android
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Ill see if I can find a prebuilt apk somewhere Found it: https://openxcom.org/forum/index.php/topic,5258.0.html
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