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seiferguy posted:Squall turning Balamb Garden from crashing into Balamb gives strong Homer Simpson preventing a Merton at the Shelbyville power plant. Crashing this school with no survivors.
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Zaphod42 posted:boingy boingy boingy
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Sep 23, 2019 20:48
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MonsieurChoc posted:Crashing this school with no survivors. What matters is our plan... that I cant recall the details of. (...huh.)
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Sep 23, 2019 21:21
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Maybe they shouldn't have sent a bunch of rookie teenagers to assassinate the most powerful man in the world. Or you know. A sniper assassin with a crippling phobia of shooting people with guns.
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Sep 23, 2019 22:06
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He got the shot off. It's just the rest of the plan was so completely idiotic that it didn't matter. e: People say that it makes sense that the party makes some bad decisions because they're teenagers in a rather hosed-up environment, and I agree with that, but I'd argue the adults aren't really any better.
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Sep 23, 2019 22:13
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Mega64 posted:He got the shot off. Yeah, he got the shot off.... after the gate had fallen and trapped her for a minute and a half, giving her PLENTY of time to recover from the surprise and deflect the shot. Good job, soldier; really on the ball, there.
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Sep 23, 2019 22:15
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It's been a few decades but didn't Rinoa have literal royal chambers added to the train where she spent her time sleeping while the others plan the big revolution?
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Sep 23, 2019 22:26
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Eschenique posted:It's been a few decades but didn't Rinoa have literal royal chambers added to the train where she spent her time sleeping while the others plan the big revolution? There isn't any indication she requested that room be made up for her as far as I can remember. The idea Rinoa is just a spoiled brat playing at revolution is a meme started by haters. She was as committed to helping liberate Timber as any of the Forest Owls. They're all just incompetent because everyone is incompetent in FFVIII.
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Sep 23, 2019 23:01
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Schwartzcough posted:Yeah, he got the shot off.... after the gate had fallen and trapped her for a minute and a half, giving her PLENTY of time to recover from the surprise and deflect the shot. But if it worked then you wouldn't get to see that sweet angry Squall driving cutscene!
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Sep 23, 2019 23:08
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NikkolasKing posted:There isn't any indication she requested that room be made up for her as far as I can remember. Yeah the Forest Owls are just kind of... Unprofessional. It's the scrappy resistance fighters getting called out on this by the professional soldiers of fortune who have been attending military school for the past decade, who just so happen to be the lens through which we see the plot. Amateurish at best but probably more aware of the stakes than the SeeDs are. Which reminds me - is the implication that Zone gets stomach aches because he has feelings for Rinoa? He doesn't have any on the SeeD ship when she's absent, but he does on the train, and she's the common denominator? DeadButDelicious fucked around with this message at 23:34 on Sep 23, 2019 |
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Sep 23, 2019 23:29
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DeadButDelicious posted:Yeah the Timber Owls are just kind of... Unprofessional. It's the scrappy resistance fighters getting called out on this by the professional soldiers of fortune who have been attending military school for the past decade, who just so happen to be the lens through which we see the plot. Amateurish at best but probably more aware of the stakes than the SeeDs are. Maybe it is just a gag about women in general? He gets one when Quistis is like "no, I can't possibly" and he insists on giving her his train ticket. But that's an interesting thought I had never considered before.
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Sep 23, 2019 23:35
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NikkolasKing posted:Maybe it is just a gag about women in general? He gets one when Quistis is like "no, I can't possibly" and he insists on giving her his train ticket. He also gets incredibly aggressive towards Squall when he is informed of what happened to Rinoa at Galbadia Garden, much more so than Watts who is quite level-headed about the whole thing and calms Zone down.
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Sep 23, 2019 23:37
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I always just read Zone's thing as him being sort of nervous and cowardly, in contrast to the idea of a debonair revolutionary or whatever. Like it was just a way of conveying why the party needs to help the Timber Owls, but also to underline that if any of them isn't a hapless failson it's Rinoa. The feelings for Rinoa bit is an interesting take, though I think the ultimate conclusion is the same. Zone doesn't measure up to Squall, and it makes him uncomfortable.
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Sep 23, 2019 23:42
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I probably love FFVIII more than the average person, but I kinda wished they could have roped Laguna, Kiros, and Ward somehow into the final battle with Ultimecia. I liked those guys and they deserved to kick some rear end.  Also, I think someone here mentioned Ellone = Ultimecia, and I like that way, way more than R=U. Neither are canon, but dammit Square, that one connection could have made everything that much more compelling (and trippy).
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Sep 24, 2019 00:11
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XIII/XIII-2 question: Is the COM damage bonus significant enough to justify using Cerberus? Or if you have a really strong RAV should you use two COM's and a RAV when the enemy is Staggered?
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Sep 24, 2019 00:51
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NikkolasKing posted:XIII/XIII-2 question: Yes.
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Sep 24, 2019 00:53
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Cerberus except at very low stagger %. If they take forever to build stagger then Aggression can be useful for some slight post-stagger gain but by and large if you can use Cerberus you want to (especially in XIII-2 when you can tell them all to target the same enemy). XIII is slightly iffier if only because they will split their targets, where Aggression will have the ravager follow your lead.
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Sep 24, 2019 00:55
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NikkolasKing posted:Anybody here ever done a low level FF run? In FFX-2 you can stay as low as levels 1/1/2 (or 2/1/1 or 1/2/1) and it's not as terribly unfair as you might think. Sure most hits are an OHKO but there are so many ways around that thanks to the tons of abilities and options you have at your disposal. Playing at low levels really feels more like a game mode or a mod rather than a gimmick.
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Sep 24, 2019 02:06
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HD DAD posted:I probably love FFVIII more than the average person, but I kinda wished they could have roped Laguna, Kiros, and Ward somehow into the final battle with Ultimecia. I liked those guys and they deserved to kick some rear end. Did I miss this? Care to break it down?
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Sep 24, 2019 03:35
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DeadButDelicious posted:Yeah the Forest Owls are just kind of... Unprofessional. It's the scrappy resistance fighters getting called out on this by the professional soldiers of fortune who have been attending military school for the past decade, who just so happen to be the lens through which we see the plot. Amateurish at best but probably more aware of the stakes than the SeeDs are. He's trying to hide his boner.
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Sep 24, 2019 04:38
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NikkolasKing posted:There isn't any indication she requested that room be made up for her as far as I can remember. The room had to come from somewhere!  And she didn't mind using it. Pretty sure if Quistis was handed that room she would tell them to clear it out. Put in a cot and fill the rest of the space up with more rockets, bombs and whatever else a proper assassination mission needs.
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Sep 24, 2019 04:57
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Eschenique posted:The room had to come from somewhere! That implies a level of competence that Quistis doesn't really have.
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Sep 24, 2019 05:01
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ImpAtom posted:That implies a level of competence that Quistis doesn't really have. She killed the spider! Which is more than anyone ever did. I don't remember how far I got into the original game at the time. Somewhere after the spaceship and recruiting Edea and then there was some futuristic space city. I think I quit the game a while after defeating ultima weapon. Because I spent that entire dungeon just keeping Squall at low health and spamming Lionheart and I thought that was kind of bullshit. Especially combined with all regular attacks doing 9999 damage anyway which made an overwhelming majority of GFs useless. The game also banned me from using magics because all the good ones were already busy being junctioned to give me elemental immunity, max health and massive health drain on attacks etc.
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Sep 24, 2019 05:10
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Eschenique posted:She killed the spider! not in my playthroughs she didn't
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Sep 24, 2019 06:57
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Eschenique posted:She killed the spider! Which is more than anyone ever did. Excuse you, as I remember it the robot spider died when Selphie blasted it with about ten Thundaga spells and I will not hear any different Sounds like you got very near the end, which is where I'm at. The game does kind of push you towards junctioning the best spells to turn you into a walking god, but that's still kind of your choice to do so. In my opinion some spells like Aura are just too good to junction despite the benefits, and sometimes the game gives you a workaround like Cerberus or auto-haste so you can junction Triple and Haste without worrying about using junctioned spells. You could always junction a weaker spell and use Devour or refine stat items to bring your base stats up so you can use the end game magic. You could keep a low level party as long as possible and take advantage of the equippable stat level up passive abilities. Hell you could refine endless copies of cards on disc 4 to make holy wars and be invincible every battle if you wanted - no need for defensive junctions when literally nothing can touch you right? TL;DR - junctioning is one way to break the game and has the least time investment but you do have other options if you're willing to invest time into them.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqvcfMeCAco
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Sep 24, 2019 18:56
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DeadButDelicious posted:Excuse you, as I remember it the robot spider died when Selphie blasted it with about ten Thundaga spells and I will not hear any different Sadly she got knocked out after trying Quetzalcoatl spam and the spider thundered on.
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Sep 24, 2019 19:06
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The right thing to do is to hide in that one building after the chumps run out of it and let the spider run passed you. Seriously though, I wonder how that might effect your performance rating? I never was able to figure that poo poo out beyond "don't talk to anybody."
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Sep 24, 2019 19:36
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Hiding in the cafe docks you a large amount of points in your grading for Rank after. That stuff is easy as hell to raise though, so it's not like it really matters.
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Sep 24, 2019 19:40
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NikkolasKing posted:The right thing to do is to hide in that one building after the chumps run out of it and let the spider run passed you. You do lose 20 points in "Attitude"
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Sep 24, 2019 19:41
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Also talking to anyone during the mission/disobeying Seifer/not saving the dog It'd be cool if they did more stuff with the SeeD rankings. It felt good getting a rank up if you did the train mission perfectly
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Sep 24, 2019 19:42
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I feel like FF8 is the game where money matters the least. I'm not trying to raise my SeeD rank, am in disc 2 and already have more money than what I care to do with.
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Sep 24, 2019 19:46
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If you're not playing at minimum SeeD rank you're not playing it right, no one respects a nerd cop.
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Sep 24, 2019 19:46
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If you really need money then sell Irvine, it's not like you're using him anyway.
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Sep 24, 2019 19:47
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If you need money just open up gamefaqs and do the SeeD tests, you can get rank 30 without too much effort
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Sep 24, 2019 19:48
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smh if you're not spamming fast ammo every chance you get, alongside blitz and renzo
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Sep 24, 2019 19:48
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Mega64 posted:If you're not playing at minimum SeeD rank you're not playing it right, no one respects a nerd cop. SeeDs are like the opposite of a cop. You go and try killing the head of state and frequently fight government troops.
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I eat all of my enemies.
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Sep 24, 2019 19:51
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You also proceed to break an enemy of the state out of prison cause you got a boner
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Squall explaining to the mayor of FH as to why he had to attack Galbadian soldiers is a perfect metaphor as to why antifa should punch nazis.quote:I wish...everything could be settled without resorting to violence... and there would be no need for battles. Like you've been preaching, it would be wonderful if things could be settled by discussion. The only problem with that is that it takes too much time. Especially if the others are not willing to listen. So I believe that fighting is inevitable at times. It's really sad. That's all I have to say. I hope you understand someday. I think the world needs both people like you and people like us. seiferguy fucked around with this message at 20:00 on Sep 24, 2019 |
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