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.Z.
Jan 12, 2008

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrfikKxF4Ps
I really enjoyed this. The song was great and the MV is a trip.

Longer version of the song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXq6j-t-iHk

Also liked the latest ARTMS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSkzF0ucsLI

.Z. fucked around with this message at 10:10 on May 10, 2024

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Centusin
Aug 5, 2009
The ongoing Hybe Min Hee jin thing is still interesting because apparently a mother of one of the NewJeans members gave an interview confirming that they were in contact with the company and concerned about ILLIT's debut. And then in the parents revealed email there's accusations of NJ members being ignored by Bang Si hyuk predebut.

https://www.asianjunkie.com/2024/05...-hybe-responds/

quote:

The parents go on to talk about the distress the members are suffering from during the ordeal, later also mentioning that the broken promise of not being HYBE’s first girl group caused them suffering as they were worried during the delays and neglect. They say during that time one member considering giving up her dream of debuting.

They then allege that Bang Si Hyuk ignored the members at the company. They mention several instances where that happened, saying that even if he didn’t recognize them, he should’ve at least acknowledged their greetings, “After hearing more than one or two instances of standing blankly in the elevator because it was embarrassing to be ignored, noticing that [Bang Si Hyuk] was pretending not to see them, and feeling like they were being avoided on purpose, we were surprised at this childish and unbelievable situation as parents, and we were at a loss as there was nothing we could say to our children. These members are just of middle school and high school age.“

Just kind of interesting they're willing to come down so strongly for one side. Also makes me wonder how involved parents typically are, or if this is just a unique situation.

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


a specific vein of lasagna
It all seems so dumb and petty now. Who cares if they weren't the first girl group? They're easily the biggest. One of the biggest groups world wide after a year even. All trainees face doubt and uncertainty about debuting, that's the entire industry. There are known members of the trainee process that were with the NJ girls for a long time that didn't make it and moved on to other opportunities or left the industry.

And the CEO of a mega corp like HYBE shouldn't be involved with individual members, or at least the parents shouldn't expect that of him. Him ignoring them in an elevator sounds dickish but Korean culture, especially in a business setting, is full of that kind of thing. Especially between an older man and such young girls.



Fun timing on this one!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oebAcA5VTDw

TripleS next variety show looks completely unhinged

Bottom Liner fucked around with this message at 09:43 on May 13, 2024

Centusin
Aug 5, 2009

Bottom Liner posted:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oebAcA5VTDw

TripleS next variety show looks completely unhinged

Strong Running Man episode 213 vibes, which is a goat episode so I'm happy to see someone making stuff like that again

Super No Vacancy
Jul 26, 2012

Bottom Liner posted:

It all seems so dumb and petty now. Who cares if they weren't the first girl group? They're easily the biggest. One of the biggest groups world wide after a year even. All trainees face doubt and uncertainty about debuting, that's the entire industry. There are known members of the trainee process that were with the NJ girls for a long time that didn't make it and moved on to other opportunities or left the industry.

And the CEO of a mega corp like HYBE shouldn't be involved with individual members, or at least the parents shouldn't expect that of him. Him ignoring them in an elevator sounds dickish but Korean culture, especially in a business setting, is full of that kind of thing. Especially between an older man and such young girls.



Fun timing on this one!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oebAcA5VTDw

TripleS next variety show looks completely unhinged

these are my thoughts mostly, all their appeals to public sentiment kind of make ADOR and the parents seem like a sore winner. to do some intra-corporate crime because of office politics pushes that past petty and into wildly risky. and I get the impression MHJ has made a point of talking about how she made a special effort to get involved with the parents and so on, so I don't think that's normal, but neither is saying one of the members called her up to cry on the phone for an hour because they were sad for her or whatever it was.

i watched two tripleS things, they were on weekly idol and 'gree gura' which had some dude going through each of them in order and rating their individual variety personal skills and both had totally insane energy. dont love the song tho

[dem jointz voice] incominggg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phuiiNCxRMg

need to hear this on my home speakers bc my tinny office headphones not sufficient

edit yes I am also predisposed to assuming hybe's lawyers are competent after the SM/kakao thing. this would be some tea if true, we need to hear from the parents now
vvvvvvvv

Super No Vacancy fucked around with this message at 15:56 on May 13, 2024

DC Murderverse
Nov 10, 2016

"Tell that to Zod's snapped neck!"

Centusin posted:

The ongoing Hybe Min Hee jin thing is still interesting because apparently a mother of one of the NewJeans members gave an interview confirming that they were in contact with the company and concerned about ILLIT's debut. And then in the parents revealed email there's accusations of NJ members being ignored by Bang Si hyuk predebut.

https://www.asianjunkie.com/2024/05...-hybe-responds/

Just kind of interesting they're willing to come down so strongly for one side. Also makes me wonder how involved parents typically are, or if this is just a unique situation.

Update:

https://x.com/kchartsmaster/status/1789915858103357518?s=46&t=5gxKQFzDrDvx-7j58Ypw3g

HYBE claiming they have proof that MHJ and Vice President of ADOR wrote that email and have been using the parents as tools to make their arguments. I tend to take HYBE official statements as roughly true because a rich company with a billion lawyers isn’t gonna say something that could get them in trouble legally so it feels serious for them to say all this:

quote:

We have evidence that ▲the act of sending emails attacking HYBE was part of the plan for the takeover of management rights and her personal gain from the start ▲Min Hee Jin suggested using the parents to raise issues because it would breach the shareholders’ agreement if she did it herself ▲the email allegedly sent by the parents was actually written by Vice President L and Min Hee Jin. We plan to submit this evidence to investigative and judicial authorities.

edit: this keeps making me flash back to the Fifty-Fifty stuff last year which also featured a hands-on producer attempting to pit members and their families against the corporation the group exists under while also attempting to wrest control away from said corporation. Of course the accusations coming from the Fifty-Fifty members were serious and about their health and wellbeing and being overworked, where the things in the email from NJ parents are “the CEO ignores them when he sees them” and “the company has a new group that is jacking NJ’s vibe.” The latter feels like an argument the parents wouldn’t have made on their own and that MHJ encouraged them to bring that up to HYBE.

DC Murderverse fucked around with this message at 15:57 on May 13, 2024

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


a specific vein of lasagna
TripleS Assemble 24 is def my second fav release of the year behind Fe3o4. The whole album is great, with Midnight Flower and Dimension as particular standouts.

Very hyped for the Aespa and Artms full lengths too. Good month.

Development
Jun 2, 2016


lol came here to post the vid. only listened to it a couple times so far, but its firmly just ok. so hard to be better than heya right now. music video though was rad!

ZypherIM
Nov 8, 2010

"I want to see what she's in love with."

Super No Vacancy posted:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phuiiNCxRMg

need to hear this on my home speakers bc my tinny office headphones not sufficient

edit yes I am also predisposed to assuming hybe's lawyers are competent after the SM/kakao thing. this would be some tea if true, we need to hear from the parents now
vvvvvvvv

Aespa continues to have songs that feel weirdly disjointed and a mix of great and meh. I *really* like what they did in the chorus, its great. The pre-chorus is absolutely trash though, and the rest of it feels mid. So you get a bad lead in to a great part, followed by it just trailing off.

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


a specific vein of lasagna
I love it a lot. Chorus is one of their best and the slinky bass line in the verses has been sorely missed lately.

smooth jazz
May 13, 2010

So is Winter fully recovered from her collapsed lung surgery or was that fake news?
I don't know what's true anymore

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


a specific vein of lasagna
I think they said it was a preventative thing? I also saw that an NBA player was back playing after 2 weeks of the same, so maybe it's not as serious as it sounds.

The MVs for this album were probably filmed before her surgery and she had time between that and when the promotions will start for recovery.

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



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They just restocked some of the G-SHOCK x ITZY watches, if you're a slavering consumer like me.

The good one is 40% off (and on the way to my mailbox)

smooth jazz
May 13, 2010



I got the whole set to enter the fancall raffle.

Setting up my kakaotalkID was needlessly complicated let me tell you.

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


a specific vein of lasagna
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouclHLZ_FtY


This is great. Seoyeons emotions hit hard knowing she started this two years ago with zero experience or training and has been like the mom for them all. Chaeyeon getting a win after being in the industry for seven years too. The encore was great, especially hearing Dahyun belt some.

Development
Jun 2, 2016

https://youtu.be/USr5C0QXMVw?si=GAeELMEftx1tzKKO

it’s ok

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


a specific vein of lasagna
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ExNmYax-ms

It’s Japanese title. Kinda reminds me of some Twice Japanese tracks. Cool sound for them.

Super No Vacancy
Jul 26, 2012

i hope the songwriter was inspired by beloved warner bros character Al G. Rhythm from space jam 2

ZypherIM
Nov 8, 2010

"I want to see what she's in love with."

Bottom Liner posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ExNmYax-ms

It’s Japanese title. Kinda reminds me of some Twice Japanese tracks. Cool sound for them.

Interesting track, I liked a lot of the little motifs that sounded a bit like a robot losing power. The bridge section completely fell flat to me.

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



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Really feeling Young Posse lately

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzZG3k1gio0

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


a specific vein of lasagna
Scars is so good. Def my favorite from them so far.

DC Murderverse
Nov 10, 2016

"Tell that to Zod's snapped neck!"

https://youtu.be/PGLx4V680J8?si=kIJxTE4S4bw4TTVv

IVE as magical girls is as good as you would expect

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


a specific vein of lasagna
That video is so good with just the right amount of camp. Song rules too.



quote:

Kep1er will successfully extend their contract, excluding members Yeseo and Mashiro.


Interesting.

Super No Vacancy
Jul 26, 2012

they are to join limelight apparently

Centusin
Aug 5, 2009
The agency will surely get more money from them if they just leave them with Kep1er.

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


a specific vein of lasagna

Centusin posted:

The agency will surely get more money from them if they just leave them with Kep1er.

Not if the MNET deals are as bad as they're rumored to be. Izone was breaking all records in sales in Korea and huge all around but the companies still ended it ASAP because they weren't really profiting from it at all. Maybe that could be negotiated better with renewals but maybe the rates didn't make sense still.


quote:

aespa WINTER will not participate in the live broadcast due to poor physical condition due to an accident at the filming site of M COUNTDOWN.

“A problem occurred with the stage set at the pre-recording site for M COUNTDOWN today. Afterwards, it was determined that WINTER needed rest and stability due to poor physical condition. KARINA, GISELLE, and NINGNING will participate in the live broadcast of the show while WINTER’s participation in activities will be decided based on her recovery status.” — SM Entertainment


well gently caress, she can't catch a break. apparently there was a fire in the studio??

Bottom Liner fucked around with this message at 04:27 on May 16, 2024

Super No Vacancy
Jul 26, 2012

https://twitter.com/kchartsmaster/status/1790916906070806895

perhaps mnet leaked that mashiro and yeseo were leaving to try and put some pressure on them negotiations wise

lets see some dual-contract idols

izone also had the whole fixed votes issue

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



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a weird one!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sU0FVs9Enq8

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


a specific vein of lasagna
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDLgJt0tbb8


Haewon and Lily vs Natty and Belle karaoke battle and hilarious juxtaposition between them, Lily and Haewon just being mega dorks the whole time :lol:

Sick! Thats DOPE
Aug 1, 2008

Oh sick man thats sick

jeez aespa music is so weird, and i normally love that but there is something off-putting about everything ive heard from them

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


a specific vein of lasagna
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvLxTveCHzk


then they follow up with a straight sitcom OST sounding track lmao


I love everything from this comeback so far

teagone
Jun 10, 2003

That was pretty intense, huh?

More Hybe/Ador stuff

https://twitter.com/tmikpop/status/1791306776710717520

poo poo's wild, yo. That account has a few threads up summarizing all the shotgunned content.

[edit]

Insane if true, lol

https://x.com/tmikpop/status/1791312541500502116

teagone fucked around with this message at 05:35 on May 17, 2024

Super No Vacancy
Jul 26, 2012

well at least they can hire the shaman to run ador once she’s ousted/arrested

anyway naver and some other company admitted they met with her about trying to get hybe to sell their stake so her defense is further kaput. seems to be going back to emotional appeals (ie newjeans love me and hitman bang wouldnt let me adverise them as ‘all teens’??). hybe tried to present messages showing MHJ making fun of the members but it got overruled

also a thread that a female employee reported sexual harassment by a vp and MHJ just characterized her as a bitch feminist

Super No Vacancy fucked around with this message at 06:22 on May 17, 2024

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


a specific vein of lasagna

Super No Vacancy posted:

also a thread that a female employee reported sexual harassment by a vp and MHJ just characterized her as a bitch feminist

holy yikes


the stuff about HYBE putting them on a hiatus as retaliation makes zero sense, no publicly traded business would have any reason to do that and it would only help MHJ's case in public opinion.

smooth jazz
May 13, 2010

teagone posted:

More Hybe/Ador stuff

https://twitter.com/tmikpop/status/1791306776710717520

poo poo's wild, yo. That account has a few threads up summarizing all the shotgunned content.

[edit]

Insane if true, lol

https://x.com/tmikpop/status/1791312541500502116

The claim that MHJ doesn't let the members express themselves is BS if you've ever seen any of their Phoning chats.

Koramei
Nov 11, 2011

I have three regrets
The first is to be born in Joseon.
Yeah I haven't been following this super closely but my impression is the Korean public is still basically on MHJ's side, so I think there's some context we're not getting here. When you consider the difference in resources between Hybe and MHJ, I'm a bit averse to believing all the slander up front. For all the MHJ shaman stuff there's some deep claims on the other side about Hybe's high ups being deep in a pretty insane cult too.

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


a specific vein of lasagna
It's pretty rampant in SK. JYP (the man) had a semi-scandal about being buddy buddy with a con artist televangelist type too IIRC.

He also has his own online church where he does like livestreamed life-coaching sermons on instagram?I get recommended the posts sometimes and they're always good for a laugh. it's almost quaint compared to all the drama going on constantly. :lmao:

Super No Vacancy
Jul 26, 2012

Koramei posted:

Yeah I haven't been following this super closely but my impression is the Korean public is still basically on MHJ's side, so I think there's some context we're not getting here. When you consider the difference in resources between Hybe and MHJ, I'm a bit averse to believing all the slander up front. For all the MHJ shaman stuff there's some deep claims on the other side about Hybe's high ups being deep in a pretty insane cult too.

there is certainly a power imbalance to be taken into account between hybe's resources and hers but one of the consequences of that is hybe was able to audit all ador's computers and communications. also MHJ brought up the shaman herself in the first place

JYP is maybe the best character in kpop imo

edit: a reporter published the chats hybe was blocked from showing in the hearing. i don't really follow the procedural aspect but i think these were shown to the parties involved but not in open court? inclined to say content warning https://old.reddit.com/r/kpop/comments/1csh5yw/megathread_6_hybe_vs_ador_insider_trading/l4ggu78/

Super No Vacancy fucked around with this message at 15:32 on May 17, 2024

.Z.
Jan 12, 2008

Bottom Liner posted:

It's pretty rampant in SK. JYP (the man) had a semi-scandal about being buddy buddy with a con artist televangelist type too IIRC.

He also has his own online church where he does like livestreamed life-coaching sermons on instagram?I get recommended the posts sometimes and they're always good for a laugh. it's almost quaint compared to all the drama going on constantly. :lmao:

He’s on YouTube.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezDXw6JQjF0

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DC Murderverse
Nov 10, 2016

"Tell that to Zod's snapped neck!"

JYP wished on a money’s paw to become the Prince of Korean music and now here we are

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