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I think overall there's not fools gold as the Dolphins don't (I imagine) expect to win the super bowl next year, or within the career envelope of Fitzmagic. They may possibly be planning on drafting a high variance QB like Love to follow their current, successful, high variance QB. We might therefore expect to see lots of Parker/Williams/Gesicki esque receivers who can basically go up and get balls wanged very hard downfield at implausible angles, and less of the Stills/Wilson types who are great at being in exactly the right place at the right time. Who knows. Tua better loving come out, Jordan Love at 5 is not my idea of fun. Maybe they'll go for Hurts instead
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sean10mm posted:What the heck happened to Stevie Johnson, anyway? god abandoned him and he was never really the same after that 
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sean10mm posted:What the heck happened to Stevie Johnson, anyway? His specialty turned into dropping wide open passes.
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If we can’t land Tua I’d be fine with Love at the Texans spot.
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TheBizzness posted:If we can’t land Tua I’d be fine with Love at the Texans spot. He'll go top 10. QBs alway ascend the draft board, and the Chargers, Panthers and Jags will all be looking for a QB.
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At what point in the season/offseason did Mitch Trubisky begin his ascent up the draft boards? I sort of remember him inexplicably coming out of nowhere long after the season ended.
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Same with Daniel Jones. The one that stuck out for me was Rivers, as that was when I first started caring about the draft. Constantly mocked to around the Dolphins at 20, ended up 4th. Dollars to donuts Burrow, Herbert, Love and Tua if he declares all go top 10. Maybe one slips to the Bucs/Colts at 13/14 if Tua does come out.
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^ Tall, white prospects that look like a QB in shorts rocket up draft boards, it's wild. Just catching up and man, the saga of that burner account is wild. Also yeah, I wouldn't expect any QB prospect worth having will last in this draft. There's so many QB thirsty teams and the Cardinals moving on from Rosen successfully is just going to convince more teams to do that and create even worse churn.
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sean10mm posted:What the heck happened to Stevie Johnson, anyway?
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Stevie Johnson was literately the only WR in the NFL to own Prime Years Revis.
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The first QB I remember coming out of nowhere to be a top 10 pick was Cutler. Never heard of the dude til the senior bowl and suddenly he’s a legit prospect. His career ended up much better than I ever thought it would.
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Looks like we’re getting a high 3rd and 4th for Leo.  JetsBros. https://twitter.com/PLeonardNYDN/status/1212041606150447107
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Diva Cupcake posted:Looks like we’re getting a high 3rd and 4th for Leo. Is there some incredible coaches film nobody has seen or is this just an incredible double down by a GM on his own mistake. We all know the answer, but come on, how do you sell this to your coaches? ... I mean, the news ones, that you get to hire. God damnit.
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Diva Cupcake posted:Looks like we’re getting a high 3rd and 4th for Leo. It's almost hard to believe Gettlemen is real.....
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Diva Cupcake posted:Looks like we’re getting a high 3rd and 4th for Leo. The Jets ending up on the right side of the dumbest move this year really is the twist ending that 2019 deserves
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tarbrush posted:The Jets ending up on the right side of the dumbest move this year really is the twist ending that 2019 deserves Douglas hasn't done anything really stupid yet.
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He hasn't fired Adam Gase.
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mcmagic posted:Douglas hasn't done anything really stupid yet. I guess the Kalil signing was a spectacular disaster. But that had no long-term cost attached to it, just the $8 million for this year.
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Jiminy Christmas! Shoes! posted:He hasn't fired Adam Gase. Gase doesn't report to him. Professor Funk posted:I guess the Kalil signing was a spectacular disaster. But that had no long-term cost attached to it, just the $8 million for this year. I mean that was a big nothing but it really cost the Jets nothing going forward.... It was a fine chance to take.
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I am mocking the Jets as a whole organisation, not the esteemed Mr Douglas specifically. I'm sure he'll buck the trend, and not be dragged headfirst into the Jets... deal.
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tarbrush posted:I am mocking the Jets as a whole organisation, not the esteemed Mr Douglas specifically. I'm sure he'll buck the trend, and not be dragged headfirst into the Jets... deal. Yeah but he was on the right side of the dumbest trade of the year.
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guys I've been thinking about it for a few hours now and I think this Chan Gailey hire has the potential to be one of the funniest things the Dolphins have done post-Marino
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Maybe the plan is to take another shot at this whole "tanking" thing.
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Ehud posted:guys I've been thinking about it for a few hours now and I think this Chan Gailey hire has the potential to be one of the funniest things the Dolphins have done post-Marino Who the gently caress knows. It's definitely one of the weirdest, which is saying something.
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Not really sure how you can have an opinion on Joe Douglas one way or the other outside of "thank gently caress Maccagnan is gone."
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TheBizzness posted:The first QB I remember coming out of nowhere to be a top 10 pick was Cutler. He was a big name in the SEC
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fsif posted:Not really sure how you can have an opinion on Joe Douglas one way or the other outside of "thank gently caress Maccagnan is gone." He's one of the (few) parts of the franchise I'm optimistic about and I'm excited to see what he does this offseason. He hasn't done anything really outstanding yet, but obviously hasn't had much of an opportunity to. I like that he took a swing on Kalil, even if it failed, and I think the 7th rounder for Alex Lewis is/will be well spent even if Lewis ends up as a depth guy. The Williams trade is obviously great. Not too much else to go on personnel wise. Basically, he came up with two of the smartest franchises in the sport in the Eagles and the Ravens, and seems like he's going to make the offensive line a priority, so I think it's reasonable for Jets fans to be excited about him. Professor Funk fucked around with this message at 18:03 on Dec 31, 2019 |
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fsif posted:Not really sure how you can have an opinion on Joe Douglas one way or the other outside of "thank gently caress Maccagnan is gone." He made 2 trades. He got a league avg G who might start for the Jets next year for a 7th and fleeced the Giants for Williams. So far so good.
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He did trade a 6th for Nate Hairston which I forgot about. That didn't work out.
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Flores is killing me. Not sure I love going all in on a coach simply because he coached Brady with you in New England. Philbin coached Rodgers and Gase coached Peyton - those offenses sucked. O Sheas offense exceeded all expectations
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Oh and the golden boy gets to pick his mentor and he picks Chan Gailey ugh
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I am so excited to see what other bizarre moves we’re gonna make. Chan Gailey offense led by first round QB Jalen Hurts lol
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Flores has earned my complete confidence for one season. I'm not a naive idiot, I'm not going to be an apologist if the poo poo goes off the rails, but I am comfortable with the decisions he made this year (even the ones I disagreed with like not playing Rosen more), and I'm fine with pretty much anything to see how it plays out.
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Man, I forgot Josh Rosen even exists. What is that dude's future with the team?
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torgeaux posted:Flores has earned my complete confidence for one season. I'm not a naive idiot, I'm not going to be an apologist if the poo poo goes off the rails, but I am comfortable with the decisions he made this year (even the ones I disagreed with like not playing Rosen more), and I'm fine with pretty much anything to see how it plays out. Yeah. He's not been perfect, and the Minkah thing in particular sucked, but he's got so much out of so little he's earned a year of more or less complete trust.
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Jiminy Christmas! Shoes! posted:Man, I forgot Josh Rosen even exists. What is that dude's future with the team? To be the starting QB's friend no matter who he is so he gets backup jobs for the next dozen years and retire on that Matt Moore money.
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Kalli posted:To be the starting QB's friend no matter who he is so he gets backup jobs for the next dozen years and retire on that Matt Moore money. I'm hoping Matt Moore gets a Super Bowl ring this year. He's always pulled his weight, been a good team mate, and generally a good guy.
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Amy Pole Her posted:Flores is killing me. Not sure I love going all in on a coach simply because he coached Brady with you in New England. Philbin coached Rodgers and Gase coached Peyton - those offenses sucked. He made some poor decisions and got rid of talent that he may not have needed to. However: For a first year coach Flores has been really good. The main change is that the Dolphins played very hard all the way through the season for the first time in a long time. The team was supposed to be a complete tanking joke but instead they found some decent talent in unexpected places and won some drat impressive games. Despite their record I think the Dolphins had a better season than the Jets especially when you take into account expectations before the seasons and factor in how much draft capital they have.
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pasaluki posted:He made some poor decisions and got rid of talent that he may not have needed to. ? What talent? If it’s Minkah - putting that on Flores shows a misunderstanding of exactly the position they (his mother and agent) put Miami in And yes i agree completely with all this, but attributing all that solely to Flores is a slippery slope. We’ll see how they do without O Shea. Parker exploded this year because he’s running better routes and guess who designed the game plan? O Shea.
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