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I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Good attention? Bad attention? I bet anythings better than the raw alienation of total loneliness.

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Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
https://twitter.com/classiclib3ral/...r%3D794%23pti18

Sestze
Jun 6, 2004



Cybernetic Crumb

cis autodrag posted:

That's a quote from starwars you weirdo. No one calls trans women that outside of 4chan shitstains.
https://twitter.com/darshandtaxes/status/944743200169873408
https://twitter.com/its_a_trapppp/status/944745850571513856
https://twitter.com/its_a_trapppp/status/944746522553536512
Either a fake account or one of the dumber people on twitter that I've ever seen.

Tetracube
Feb 12, 2014

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
There's a bunch of trans women who use /pol/ for some incredibly baffling reason

temple
Jul 29, 2006

I have actual skeletons in my closet
Hitler loved dogs. Makes you wonder if jews should be excuted imo.

The MUMPSorceress
Jan 6, 2012


^SHTPSTS

Gary’s Answer

Lol, "biologically male or female" is a completely incoherent way to ask that but point taken. This is a trans person gripped by a horrifying depression that drives them to use slurs for themselves.

Dang It Bhabhi!
May 27, 2004



ASK ME ABOUT
BEING
ESCULA GRIND'S
#1 SIMP

Doesn't "trap" imply "passing?"

The MUMPSorceress
Jan 6, 2012


^SHTPSTS

Gary’s Answer

Dang It Bhabhi! posted:

Doesn't "trap" imply "passing?"

No, it's just a lovely slur, like trans women's goal is to "trap" you. It sort of implies that trans women aren't actually women and therefore are men who are presenting female to trap you into turning gay.

It's like a notch below "shemale"

Dang It Bhabhi!
May 27, 2004



ASK ME ABOUT
BEING
ESCULA GRIND'S
#1 SIMP

cis autodrag posted:

No, it's just a lovely slur, like trans women's goal is to "trap" you. It sort of implies that trans women aren't actually women and therefore are men who are presenting female to trap you into turning gay.

It's like a notch below "shemale"

Far be it from me to create a dumb tangent but my first context for that word was the Bailey Jay gif where it pans down slowly so that if you didn't know what was happening you would think "oh wow she's cute... OH NO A PENIS IT IS I WHO HAVE NOW BEEN DECEIVED BY THIS TRAP!"

But yea, clearly it's a slur. Or a commonly used keyword in my porn searches.

Nessus
Dec 22, 2003

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And here I thought it was "Don't be stupid, be a smarty, come and join the Nazi Party." APPARENTLY NOT.

PetraCore
Jul 20, 2017

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In other circumstances I could think she was being tongue-in-cheek self-depricating, and maybe she still is, but she's also self-depricating herself right into nazi defense.

The nazis were people and that means they didn't behave the same in all circumstances and that means a nazi could be a loving dad to his aryan bundles of joy and also legitimately love the genocide stuff and want to kill kids that didn't fit into his worldview. Being loving to family members doesn't make you 'not an rear end in a top hat' in general or even make you a good person. If you are seriously trying to defend the institution of nazism based on the fact that it wasn't ALL babymurder twin experimentation, you're deluded, especially as a minority the nazi party hated.

The MUMPSorceress
Jan 6, 2012


^SHTPSTS

Gary’s Answer

Dang It Bhabhi! posted:

Far be it from me to create a dumb tangent but my first context for that word was the Bailey Jay gif where it pans down slowly so that if you didn't know what was happening you would think "oh wow she's cute... OH NO A PENIS IT IS I WHO HAVE NOW BEEN DECEIVED BY THIS TRAP!"

But yea, clearly it's a slur. Or a commonly used keyword in my porn searches.

Yeah, it's that part that's bad. It fundamentally assumes it's gross and shocking for a woman to have a penis, and it you view it as her not being a woman because of the penis.

It's weird how 4chan is obsessed with her too because while she used to post there she spends most of her free time organizing for trans rights organizations and events now.

Streak
May 16, 2004

by Nyc_Tattoo
Lol if you wouldn't choke on Bailey Jay's dick

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

"From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.
Buglord

PetraCore posted:

In other circumstances I could think she was being tongue-in-cheek self-depricating, and maybe she still is, but she's also self-depricating herself right into nazi defense.

The nazis were people and that means they didn't behave the same in all circumstances and that means a nazi could be a loving dad to his aryan bundles of joy and also legitimately love the genocide stuff and want to kill kids that didn't fit into his worldview. Being loving to family members doesn't make you 'not an rear end in a top hat' in general or even make you a good person. If you are seriously trying to defend the institution of nazism based on the fact that it wasn't ALL babymurder twin experimentation, you're deluded, especially as a minority the nazi party hated.

One of the first things the nazis did was destroy an entire sexuality and gender research lab that set back LGBT research by decades

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

Streak posted:

Lol if you wouldn't choke on Bailey Jay's dick

i'd prefer to suck it than choke on it

PetraCore
Jul 20, 2017

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Improbable Lobster posted:

One of the first things the nazis did was destroy an entire sexuality and gender research lab that set back LGBT research by decades
Yup. :(

IDK this chick is a dumbass but hopefully she can find a better social group and unfuck her head. This goes for a lot of people but I admit I have more sympathy for people who aren't big personalities stirring poo poo up, like Milo. Like goddamn.

Streak
May 16, 2004

by Nyc_Tattoo

Jose posted:

i'd prefer to suck it than choke on it

We're not all dicksucking pros like you Jose

Hellsau
Jan 14, 2010

NEVER FUCKING TAKE A NIGHT OFF CLAN WARS.

Streak posted:

We're not all dicksucking pros like you Jose

Practice makes perfect.

divabot
Jun 17, 2015

A polite little mouse!

Tetracube posted:

There's a bunch of trans women who use /pol/ for some incredibly baffling reason

a worrying number of people realise this about themselves when they see talk about trans people on 4chan. i mean, approximately the worst place ever to realise one's egg status. so we end up with alt-right-jargon spouting SJW-hating trans people.

Aoi
Sep 12, 2017

Perpetually a Pain.

divabot posted:

a worrying number of people realise this about themselves when they see talk about trans people on 4chan. i mean, approximately the worst place ever to realise one's egg status. so we end up with alt-right-jargon spouting SJW-hating trans people.

It's definitely one of the saddest things about 4chan, the way trans girls in particular have been inculcated with the attention they get from people there that fetishize "traps", which leads them to think they're truly accepted and welcomed there, and that being treated that way (down to the use of the word "trap", with all its meanings they don't think too deeply about 'because that's just what they're called, man') is healthy or good for them. The tacit understanding that they exist to arouse and titillate fetishists that only see them as sex objects often doesn't quite sink in, even if some measure of 'I have to post and act a certain way if I want to keep getting "positive" attention' might.

Lord knows that not many trans people need to be explained to how being able to engage in anonymity on the internet can be a godsend, and that was 4chan's primary appeal for a long time, so it's easy to see how trans people could see it as a place of refuge, particularly since it has a /lgbt/ board, without their realizing that the /lgbt/ board was initially created as a containment board, so that the population at large could tell the "fags" to gently caress off back to it any time anyone brings up anything lgbt-related (outside the "trap" porn, of course). Given that one can start a thread at any time on any subject, it's easy to try and isolate yourself in topics you want to discuss, and not take part in any others, but with the ease one finds in lurking in or posting in any other topic, as well, soaking up other *chan culture is worryingly easy to do, at times, and can lead to ugly places.

I'd first set foot in 4chan in 2004, and I spent a long time there, observing the "natives" with each successive "generation" (year) as much as anything else, until I just abruptly stopped being able to put up with the poo poo, even if I'd occasionally find a nugget of gold or two on various boards (/pol/ not being one of them) a few months back. As bad as /pol/ in particular is, I worry about the effects of chan culture in general on vulnerable groups, but there's no easy way to solve that issue, either.

Faffel
Dec 31, 2008

A bouncy little mouse!

I used to play Quakelive with a homeless, transgender neonazi. Weird character and yet not at all the worst person I've met on the internet even in the last couple years, but the cognitive dissonance left me reeling so I dunno what was going on in their noggin.

Aoi
Sep 12, 2017

Perpetually a Pain.

Faffel posted:

I used to play Quakelive with a homeless, transgender neonazi. Weird character and yet not at all the worst person I've met on the internet even in the last couple years, but the cognitive dissonance left me reeling so I dunno what was going on in their noggin.

Ignorance and naivete, mostly, probably.

PetraCore
Jul 20, 2017

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EimiYoshikawa posted:

Ignorance and naivete, mostly, probably.
Also probably an unhealthy hatred of 'the Jews'. If you're racist enough it's easy to see Neonazis as the people who agree with you and speak the truth, and you can ignore the fact that gay and trans people* were not at all accepted by them.

*Or disabled people, or women who don't want to be homemakers and pop out a lot of aryan babies, or whatever way you deviate.

It's not like this is unique to neonazis, either. A lot of prominent Nazis didn't fit their own criteria of purity, but because they fit enough and were fervent enough, it was okay. Like the whole irony of Hitler himself being a short brunette partially-Jewish guy instead of a 6'3'' 'pure' blond. It's really fascinating to see all the infighting in the alt-right and other white-supremacist movements as people disagree on exactly what is permissible, and think they're safe even though they married a Jewish woman and have Jewish children or are openly gay or disabled or trans or whatever. I think a lot of the times white-supremacists deviate so far from the 'white ideal' but fight so hard for it because of, idk, probably insecurity or self-loathing, except they don't want to actually work through their own poo poo and process their emotions healthily they just want to blame a conspiracy.

Mr Interweb
Aug 25, 2004

PetraCore posted:


It's not like this is unique to neonazis, either. A lot of prominent Nazis didn't fit their own criteria of purity, but because they fit enough and were fervent enough, it was okay. Like the whole irony of Hitler himself being a short brunette partially-Jewish guy instead of a 6'3'' 'pure' blond.

Yeah, this is probably the big one that had me scratching my head for the longest time. I mean, it's not like Hitler was wearing a mask or anything, so no one raised their eyebrow when he argued that the ideal human was blonde hair, blue eyed?

Also, that Nick Fuentes guy is a nazi too. :lol:

juggalo baby coffin
Dec 2, 2007

How would the dog wear goggles and even more than that, who makes the goggles?


the chud crowd has a wider set of demographics than you might expect. not like, wide-wide, but not 100% incel white cismale

Waffle House
Oct 27, 2004

You follow the path
fitting into an infinite pattern.

Yours to manipulate, to destroy and rebuild.

Now, in the quantum moment
before the closure
when all become one.

One moment left.
One point of space and time.

I know who you are.

You are Destiny.


Tetracube posted:

There's a bunch of trans women who use /pol/ for some incredibly baffling reason

I call this Cuttlefishing. There are exactly 0 women actually on /pol/, so the uh...."prison bitches?" start transitioning to fill the biological need. :biotruths:

e: Which is gonna be great when they get called sluts who won't put out the first time

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Jul 20, 2017

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Waffle House posted:

I call this Cuttlefishing. There are exactly 0 women actually on /pol/, so the uh...."prison bitches?" start transitioning to fill the biological need. :biotruths:

e: Which is gonna be great when they get called sluts who won't put out the first time
That's... not the best wording. At all. Trans women are women.

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


Waffle House posted:

I call this Cuttlefishing. There are exactly 0 women actually on /pol/, so the uh...."prison bitches?" start transitioning to fill the biological need. :biotruths:

e: Which is gonna be great when they get called sluts who won't put out the first time

:chloe:

Bunni-kat
May 25, 2010

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Waffle House posted:

I call this Cuttlefishing. There are exactly 0 women actually on /pol/, so the uh...."prison bitches?" start transitioning to fill the biological need. :biotruths:

e: Which is gonna be great when they get called sluts who won't put out the first time

Please tell me this is just a poorly thought out joke.

Waffle House
Oct 27, 2004

You follow the path
fitting into an infinite pattern.

Yours to manipulate, to destroy and rebuild.

Now, in the quantum moment
before the closure
when all become one.

One moment left.
One point of space and time.

I know who you are.

You are Destiny.


Avenging_Mikon posted:

Please tell me this is just a poorly thought out joke.

Yep.

WatermelonGun
May 7, 2009

Waffle House posted:

I call this Cuttlefishing. There are exactly 0 women actually on /pol/, so the uh...."prison bitches?" start transitioning to fill the biological need. :biotruths:

e: Which is gonna be great when they get called sluts who won't put out the first time

extremely bad post

Rough Lobster
May 27, 2009

Don't be such a squid, bro
These last two pages have me so confused.

Rough Lobster fucked around with this message at 04:59 on Dec 25, 2017

The MUMPSorceress
Jan 6, 2012


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Gary’s Answer

Rough Lobster posted:

There last two pages have me so confused.

Sorry that grown up talk happened in gbs. Klurf, krust, balls lolololol

BONGHITZ
Jan 1, 1970

cuttlefishing the clownfish

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose
Not strictly alt-right but noted rapist Julian Assange's Twitter account went bye bye today.

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Apr 16, 2017

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Eric Garland seems to be in the middle of a psychotic episode. Merry Christmas!

Waffle House
Oct 27, 2004

You follow the path
fitting into an infinite pattern.

Yours to manipulate, to destroy and rebuild.

Now, in the quantum moment
before the closure
when all become one.

One moment left.
One point of space and time.

I know who you are.

You are Destiny.


Vincent Van Goatse posted:

Not strictly alt-right but noted rapist Julian Assange's Twitter account went bye bye today.

:aaa: Holy loving poo poo, it is.

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

"From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.
Buglord

Vincent Van Goatse posted:

Not strictly alt-right but noted rapist Julian Assange's Twitter account went bye bye today.

Good riddance to his fake verified check

Nessus
Dec 22, 2003

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I bet he deleted it himself so he could hit headlines on a slow news day

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Rough Lobster
May 27, 2009

Don't be such a squid, bro
I've always wondered if Assange's embassy closet was actually any better than a Swedish prison cell.

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