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Kontradaz posted:Thanks for reminding me of the borefest that Heretic was. nightwisher posted:The only good doom engine game was Strife. Can we remake that instead of brutal doom? This thread is loving DOOMed.
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# ? Jun 18, 2024 23:19 |
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Yeah if you don't like Heretic you're probably a piece of poo poo irl. And if you like hexen... may god have mercy on your soul
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Yeah Heretic rules and I played so much of it as a kid. Hexen is pretty lame by comparison. Tons of cool ideas (classes, hub worlds) that just did not loving work well in practice. I kinda prefer Heretic's aesthetic to Doom's in many ways, although I feel like Doom's enemies are more iconic and some of its levels are much better.
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Recently I tried playing Heretic for five minutes for some reason and oh my god it is so ugly and awful It shows just how much Doom got right aesthetically when someone made a virtual gameplay clone and it sucks balls
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I think we can all agree that this game is going to be the biggest sponge worthy sultan of cock sauce we've ever seen.
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Kazvall posted:I think we can all agree that this game is going to be the biggest sponge worthy sultan of cock sauce we've ever seen. I'd like to agree, so I just googled sultan of cock sauce to try and figure this out. First result is siracha sauce, so I guess you're saying the game will be hot and spicy? I can get behind that
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sponge worthy in Seinfeld terms was a good thing, so I think he's paying a compliment? Sultan of cock sauce sounds like an insult though. ![]()
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There's a new short trailer showing off some of the multiplayer maps. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHEFeZB7Lcc Some of them look visually really good, give me great hope the campaign will have equally good design.
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AirRaid posted:There's a new short trailer showing off some of the multiplayer maps. Aesthetically I can't get over how much they look like a mix of Unreal Tournament maps and Halo maps, but it is what it is, I guess. That's not necessarily the worst thing. (Also they're being made by Certain Affinity sooooooo) Infernal looks amazing and reminds me of a proper Quake 3 style map. Disposal looks very cool although reminds me so much of Unreal. Overall these look very cool, way more inspiring and creative than Halo 5's maps. I wonder if we'll be able to SnapMap using all of these assets or how limited it'll be. Like all the organic trees, they look great, but are those going to be available as prefabs or what?
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Yeah we don't really know much about the variety of prefabs in snapmap yet.
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Kontradaz posted:Thanks for reminding me of the borefest that Heretic was. Heretic was a better Doom sequel than Doom 2 just by virtue of trying to do something a little different. 5/10 needs prinny.
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Can I get a larger image of this?
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Tempus Rimeblood posted:Can I get a larger image of this? I don't have one but you could photoshop it yourself pretty easy ![]()
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Doom guy has both hands on the pistol at all times, making him quite the respectable gentleman when it comes to gun safety.
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Keiya posted:Heretic was a better Doom sequel than Doom 2 just by virtue of trying to do something a little different. doom 2 is probably the best fps ever.
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Keiya posted:Heretic was a better Doom sequel than Doom 2 just by virtue of trying to do something a little different. things like "what if doom had guns that were bad instead of good"
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Keiya posted:Heretic was a better Doom sequel than Doom 2 just by virtue of trying to do something a little different. Alas, I replayed Heretic a few months ago, and in lots of area the gameplay isn't as tight as in Doom.
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please don't disrespect the ethereal crossbow thanks
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Absolute scrubs in here talking down on Heretic without evening mentioning doom2's city levels.
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Can we talk about Hexen's switch hunting? ![]()
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Kazvall posted:Absolute scrubs in here talking down on Heretic without evening mentioning doom2's city levels. Suburbs is a fun little romp. Though I guess it's more of a suburb level than a city level. As for Heretic, the combat is a little boring but I like playing it kind of speedrun style, just killing maybe half the enemies, keep on running.
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Kazvall posted:Absolute scrubs in here talking down on Heretic without evening mentioning doom2's city levels. The main appeal of Doom 2 is ignoring the campaign and downloading actually good user made maps that make use of the Super Shotgun and new monsters.
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Kazvall posted:Absolute scrubs in here talking down on Heretic without evening mentioning doom2's city levels. Downtown ![]() Those levels really are a chore to play.
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i dunno what they were thinking with the city levels.
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Heretic is actually an extremely good game, and once you get used to the level layouts Hexen isn't bad either (except for the lack of weapons per class, pretty unforgivable sin) Doom 2 is the greatest game ever released and is a thousand times better than the original game if only for the expanded bestiary.
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Jia posted:Heretic is actually an extremely good game, and once you get used to the level layouts Hexen isn't bad either (except for the lack of weapons per class, pretty unforgivable sin) Doom 2 is to Doom like Left 4 Dead 2 is to Left 4 Dead - it's less of a sequel and more of an expansion and refinement. I've got two levels to go in my Doom 2 playthrough and then it's onward to Doom 3. ![]()
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Xenomrph posted:Doom 2 is to Doom like Left 4 Dead 2 is to Left 4 Dead - it's less of a sequel and more of an expansion and refinement. I wouldn't be cheering about doom 3
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Doom 3 owns, I've always enjoyed it. This will probably be my 5th time replaying it since it came out. Also holy gently caress the Icon of Sin in Doom 2 can gently caress right off on Ultra Violence difficulty. I've failed this mission about 11 times now, and it's consistently either due to bullshit random enemy spawns, or mis-timing firing the rocket into the boss's brain.
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Xenomrph posted:Doom 3 owns, I've always enjoyed it. This will probably be my 5th time replaying it since it came out. When you're on the elevator shoot juuuust as the rocket launcher lines up with the chin. Alternatively you could use a sourceport like GZdoom that allows full mouselook, it makes those fights a million times easier.
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What does UV actually change on that map, anyway? I think there's like a revenant on the higher difficulties and the invul spheres might be gone as well? Neither of those should make a severe difference. Does it affect the Icon spawn mechanics?
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JerryLee posted:What does UV actually change on that map, anyway? I think there's like a revenant on the higher difficulties and the invul spheres might be gone as well? Neither of those should make a severe difference. Does it affect the Icon spawn mechanics? Yeah there's the Revenant, and the invulnerability spheres are gone. It doesn't change the spawn mechanics. I've just been dicked over by the enemy spawns repeatedly now. I had an enemy spawn ON the little lift you ride up twice now, the first time I got knocked off the lift, the second time I accidentally killed myself with a point blank rocket shot. Edit-- Icon of Sin is dead, stock Doom2 complete on Ultraviolence, now I'm just going to knock out the No Rest For The Living maps and then it's Doom3 time. ![]() Xenomrph fucked around with this message at 05:07 on Mar 21, 2016 |
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Xenomrph posted:
You march right back to the original games young man, and you complete Final doom before even thinking about Doom 3, especially the Plutonia experiment! Edit: Then Doom 64. khwarezm fucked around with this message at 05:33 on Mar 21, 2016 |
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khwarezm posted:You march right back to the original games young man, and you complete Final doom before even thinking about Doom 3, especially the Plutonia experiment! ![]() In the meantime, here's an old print ad for SNES Doom I stumbled across on eBay. Excuse the watermark. ![]()
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doom 3 woulda been way better if it wasn't a doom game.
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Doom 3 is good and fun. Just run everywhere and shoot everything.
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I love Project Brutality and I find the ultra-violence to be hilarious in both that and the new Doom And, yes, Doom 3 owns. Especially since it managed to scare my buddy.
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Jia posted:Heretic is actually an extremely good game, and once you get used to the level layouts Hexen isn't bad either (except for the lack of weapons per class, pretty unforgivable sin) Guillermus posted:Can we talk about Hexen's switch hunting? This right here is why Hexen is in fact bad. Hexen is pretty great, especially since they tried the whole hubworlds thing and classes, very unique. But then you find out you missed a switch somewhere and you have to go back to the castle of ice or steel or whatever after you already cleared the whole level once and gently caress that poo poo. Plus you only get like 3 weapons in the whole game because of the classes? Heretic is way better.
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The weird thing about Doom 3 is that for some reason id software decided to frontload it with all the lovely levels and put the decent levels at the end
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# ? Jun 18, 2024 23:19 |
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Zaphod42 posted:Heretic is way better. Well yeah I don't think anyone would argue that; I just think Hexen isn't as awful as people make it out to be.
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