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Baseball's most unbreakable record has to be Cy Young's 511 wins. Only one other player, Walter Johnson, has more than 400. 5-man rotations make it pretty much impossible to get that high, even if you somehow manage to be ridiculously good, lucky, and injury-free. Cal Ripken's 2,632 consecutive games played is probably never going to be touched either. Only 5 MLBers played in all 162 games in 2016 and 2017. Only 2 played in all 162 in 2015.
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Aug 8, 2018 22:04
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https://twitter.com/nickgroke/status/1027289801127616517
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Aug 8, 2018 22:15
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There have not been 86 perfect games, so I'm not sure how you can say it's more rare than one.
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Aug 8, 2018 22:19
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Yea think he meant No Hitter
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Aug 8, 2018 22:21
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I love that Mike Fiers has both an immaculate inning and a no-hitter because he is garbage
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Aug 8, 2018 22:22
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I'm pretty sure he's using "number of innings pitched in the history of baseball" as the denominator for the rate of immaculate innings for "rarity" purposes. There's only one chance at a perfect game every game, there are 18 chances at an immaculate inning (or more!) Maybe I'm over thinking this and that guy is just dumb. I dunno! So, 210,000 games and 23 perfect games = .001095% Averaging those games to 9 innings a piece (and both teams can pitch 9 innings) would be... 3,780,000 innings available for an immaculate inning and 85 of them have been thrown = .000225% Edit: I'm definitely over thinking this. Thom P. Tiers fucked around with this message at 22:32 on Aug 8, 2018 |
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Aug 8, 2018 22:24
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Thom P. Tiers posted:I'm pretty sure he's using "number of innings pitched in the history of baseball" as the denominator for the rate of immaculate innings for "rarity" purposes. Lol just click his tweet the very next one in the thread he corrects himself and says "no hitters, not perfect games".
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Aug 8, 2018 22:37
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Still true though! In the sense of how many innings are available to actually throw an immaculate inning, they are rare as gently caress. Although with strikeout rates climbing these days they are certainly becoming more of a common thing to see. There were 8 last year  For a guy who had a career 10% K rate, Ichiro being victim to two immaculate innings is pretty funny. Thom P. Tiers fucked around with this message at 22:54 on Aug 8, 2018 |
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Aug 8, 2018 22:48
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If Chris Davis were to get 30 hits in his next 60 at bats ... he'd be hitting .210 for the season.
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Aug 8, 2018 22:58
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Thom P. Tiers posted:I'm pretty sure he's using "number of innings pitched in the history of baseball" as the denominator for the rate of immaculate innings for "rarity" purposes. This was my thought as well and this is correct, he should've stuck to his guns here
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Aug 8, 2018 23:14
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Kevlar v2.0 posted:Baseball's most unbreakable record has to be Cy Young's 511 wins. Only one other player, Walter Johnson, has more than 400. 5-man rotations make it pretty much impossible to get that high, even if you somehow manage to be ridiculously good, lucky, and injury-free. The wins record won’t ever come close to being touched. A local talk show host read off the stat that after 17 years of being one of the most durable and elite pitchers in the game, Mike Mussina had 270 wins. Mike Mussina would therefore have to go back and have nearly his entire career all over again just to break the record. We’ll be lucky to see anyone get to 300 career wins, let alone break Cy’s record.
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Aug 8, 2018 23:24
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Jason Werth posted:“They’ve got all these super nerds in the front office that know nothing about baseball but they like to project numbers and project players,” Werth said. You nerds have trashed the game. Happy now?
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Aug 8, 2018 23:27
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Aug 8, 2018 23:29
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I'd rather watch a computer simulate baseball than watch the Marlins simulate baseball
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Aug 8, 2018 23:29
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I want an anti-Moneyball movie where the Werths chase these kids out of the clubhouse and start bunting again.
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Aug 8, 2018 23:35
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the dynamic between people who try and figure out mathematically perfect baseball and people who actually play baseball is one of my favorite things
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Aug 8, 2018 23:41
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It's a dumb complaint by Werth as it is, but more than half of GMs either played college or minor league ball, and one is a former major leaguer, as are a bunch of team Presidents and VPs.
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Aug 8, 2018 23:43
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GPTribefan posted:The wins record won’t ever come close to being touched. A local talk show host read off the stat that after 17 years of being one of the most durable and elite pitchers in the game, Mike Mussina had 270 wins. Mike Mussina would therefore have to go back and have nearly his entire career all over again just to break the record. How many wins would Cy Young had gotten if he played for the Mets though? I don't watch baseball because I'm a dumb nerd but I can look at his stats and see that he hasn't been good since 2014. I'm sure scouts or whoever that don't own computers and only watch games could have told you that too though.
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Aug 8, 2018 23:46
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Today is the 30th anniversary of Wrigley Field’s first game with lights installed for night games. Of course, that game got rained out in the 4th inning so the game was scratched, which to me is just about the most Cubs thing that could have happened.
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Aug 8, 2018 23:51
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probably won't see 42 caught stealing again or 50 hit batsmen or 48 losses or 122 errors
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Aug 8, 2018 23:52
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Kevlar v2.0 posted:Cal Ripken's 2,632 consecutive games played is probably never going to be touched either. Only 5 MLBers played in all 162 games in 2016 and 2017. Only 2 played in all 162 in 2015. Yeah, this is my pick for most unbreakable modern-era record. Alcides Escobar had the longest streak going at 400 or so games, and that ended this season. With rest days and multi-position players being commonplace now, the game has made the record set just 20 years ago untouchable in the same way 5-man rotations and pitch counts did for Cy Young's records. No player is going to be so average that he's good enough to play every day but not good enough to care about resting him, plus the absurd luck of not being injured ever and somehow having a manager that's stuck 30 years in the past that would allow something ridiculous like that happen. While something like Joe DiMaggio's hit streak is mathematically very unlikely to be topped (even moreso with pitcher specialization and match-up/defensive alignment analytics today), the game hasn't fundamentally changed to the point where it could never happen.
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Aug 8, 2018 23:52
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e:nvm
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Aug 9, 2018 00:24
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the popes toes posted:You nerds have trashed the game. Happy now? No no no, Jayson. They're HORSES not ROBOTS.
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Aug 9, 2018 00:35
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The players that complain about "nerds" in baseball usually suck and are upset that someone found a way to quantify that.
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Aug 9, 2018 00:37
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Werth is just mad that Boras is a dumbshit and completely hosed up his FA bargaining position.
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Aug 9, 2018 00:40
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Jayson Werth is about as intelligent as my cousin Todd who managed to run himself over with his own truck while driving it
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Aug 9, 2018 00:44
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Werth is right. I wouldn’t want busybody nerds telling me where to stand at work. Stuff them in lockers, I say.
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Aug 9, 2018 00:47
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Tom Gorman posted:Jayson Werth is about as intelligent as my cousin Todd who managed to run himself over with his own truck while driving it I'm pretty sure it was Grienke who marveled that some of the best players in the game are brainlessly stupid because (paraphrasing) "this games hurts you when you think too much."
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Aug 9, 2018 00:49
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the popes toes posted:I'm pretty sure it was Grienke who marveled that some of the best players in the game are brainlessly stupid because (paraphrasing) "this games hurts you when you think too much." I never figured out if Grienke was secretly smart or just an amazingly quotable version of dumb.
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Aug 9, 2018 00:53
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It's disheartening but also hilarious to me to see Werth bashing analytics when he's exactly the kind of player that traditional stats underrate. He never hit for a ton of power and his defense was lousy by pretty much any evaluation, but he got on base all the time and was a deceptively excellent baserunner. Without analytics the true value of his game wouldn't have been appreciated. What a maroon.
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Aug 9, 2018 01:07
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ego symphonic posted:It's disheartening but also hilarious to me to see Werth bashing analytics when he's exactly the kind of player that traditional stats underrate. He never hit for a ton of power and his defense was lousy by pretty much any evaluation, but he got on base all the time and was a deceptively excellent baserunner. Without analytics the true value of his game wouldn't have been appreciated. What a maroon. This is known as Joe Morgan Syndrome
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Aug 9, 2018 01:10
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ego symphonic posted:It's disheartening but also hilarious to me to see Werth bashing analytics when he's exactly the kind of player that traditional stats underrate. He never hit for a ton of power and his defense was lousy by pretty much any evaluation, but he got on base all the time and was a deceptively excellent baserunner. Without analytics the true value of his game wouldn't have been appreciated. What a maroon. Completely different to use advanced analytics to identify undervalued qualities vs using advanced analytics to tell individuals where to stand and how to behave during their working day I’m standing with Werth.
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Aug 9, 2018 01:11
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Grittybeard posted:I never figured out if Grienke was secretly smart or just an amazingly quotable version of dumb. Greinke talked about Brian Banister introducing him to sabermetrics, and the two of them used PitchFX data when it was first available. He has a really offbeat personality but he's definitely bright.
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Aug 9, 2018 01:16
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Miz Kriss posted:Today is the 30th anniversary of Wrigley Field’s first game with lights installed for night games. Of course, that game got rained out in the 4th inning so the game was scratched, which to me is just about the most Cubs thing that could have happened. The very first batter hit a leadoff homer in that game, too.
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Aug 9, 2018 01:16
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GalacticAcid posted:Completely different to use advanced analytics to identify undervalued qualities vs using advanced analytics to tell individuals where to stand and how to behave during their working day I mean, it comes off like you're equating playing the game of baseball and an actual average working day with a normal boss a little too closely. The manager tells people where to stand and how to behave anyway. The nerds are there to ideally help the manager and coaching staff make less dumb decisions.
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Aug 9, 2018 01:17
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GalacticAcid posted:Completely different to use advanced analytics to identify undervalued qualities vs using advanced analytics to tell individuals where to stand and how to behave during their working day Hi meet Frederick Taylor, he died in 1915 and is still making workers' lives hell.
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Aug 9, 2018 01:20
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elentar posted:Hi meet Frederick Taylor, he died in 1915 and is still making workers' lives hell. Lol I was gonna write something about statcast and taylorism but decided to just post instead
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Aug 9, 2018 01:24
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GalacticAcid posted:Lol I was gonna write something about statcast and taylorism but decided to just post instead route efficiency is actually a really good illustration of taylorism, have used it with students before
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Aug 9, 2018 01:36
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https://twitter.com/BuffaloBisons/status/1027354160386252800 Large Son hits Large Homer.
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Aug 9, 2018 01:59
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I'm mad at Werth getting mad about the nerds because he was so hilarious when doing bad stuff (standing there as the ball landed behind him, his existential crisis after seeing an eephus.)
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