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look just because they elected the daughter of the former military dictator doesn't mean south korea is a monarchy
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Jun 1, 2022 18:37
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Son of Thunderbeast posted:I'm not sure why liberals are so eager and proud to put their ignorance on display with the "hereditary monarchy" meme but I'm glad y'all do It's like a giant neon sign that says "this person is not to be taken seriously"
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Jun 1, 2022 18:44
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freeasinbeer posted:also lmao at y’all going to the mat to defend what is now a hereditary monarchy 😂 congratulations on showing you know nothing about the korean peninsula or the dprk
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Jun 1, 2022 18:46
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sexpig by night posted:Jack Ma's biggest idea was 'why should law and public good get in the way of me making a poo poo ton of money off old people' btw Sounds like an innovative ~*~disruptor~*~ to me.
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Jun 1, 2022 19:42
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Red and Black posted:Antonymous can you post some of these primary sources? This is an issue I’m very interested in and I’d love to read more about what you’ve been posting The wilson center has some good selections, which is where I got started. What I was originally interested in is why the USSR hosed up so bad with the UNTCOK, I wanted to find their internal reasoning behind it. Sadly wilson center has like nothing from 1948 but the stuff it has is good. https://digitalarchive.wilsoncenter.org/collection/134/korean-war-origins-1945-1950 An example, showing the soviets had hope to conclude their deal with the Americans, right before the Americans pulled out and humiliated them at the UN about a week later. American history says the soviets were obstructionists but the US agreement at the Moscow Conference was always going to help the soviets more, so it never made sense, unless they were just stalling. I guess it was just an excuse for America's own obstructionism? Malik Sept. 12 1947 posted:To Comrade STALIN Antonymous has issued a correction as of 19:46 on Jun 1, 2022 |
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Jun 1, 2022 19:44
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Look at how on the money US Intelligence was, play by play the korean war happened exactly as the USA planned. From a March 1948 CIA document 
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Jun 1, 2022 20:06
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lmao @ that last sentence
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Jun 1, 2022 21:01
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ikanreed posted:This that a Nazi emblem in their user name? yeah they basically combined two symbols to make that wolfhook that azov loves to use
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Jun 1, 2022 21:27
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Son of Thunderbeast posted:I'm not sure why liberals are so eager and proud to put their ignorance on display with the "hereditary monarchy" meme but I'm glad y'all do Democracy is when you lose elections. The more elections you lose, the more democracy.
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Jun 1, 2022 21:57
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Cpt_Obvious posted:Democracy is when you lose elections. The more elections you lose, the more democracy. Democrats.txt?
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Jun 2, 2022 00:43
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Cpt_Obvious posted:Democracy is when you lose elections. The more elections you lose, the more democracy. I got that definition in the modern history thread, maybe my question was dumb tho.
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Jun 2, 2022 04:36
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https://twitter.com/WilliamYang120/status/1532176106303811584
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Jun 2, 2022 05:32
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lemme guess he is monologuing to himself again
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Jun 2, 2022 07:08
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nice skull patch
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Jun 2, 2022 08:25
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i also like how these think tanks talk as if guns aren't designed to be as easy to use as possible
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Jun 2, 2022 09:06
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its point and click right
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Jun 2, 2022 09:08
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I also don't get it didn't taiwan have mandatory military for men. oh so now you want to learn how to shoot, you all took the civil option huh?
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Jun 2, 2022 09:10
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Antonymous posted:I also don't get it didn't taiwan have mandatory military for men. oh so now you want to learn how to shoot, you all took the civil option huh? like what the uvalde cops has showed us, ohhh-rahhhism tends to disappear when the rubber finally meets the road
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Jun 2, 2022 09:14
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one thing the ukraine war has me thinking about is how difficult cities have become to attack because of how much they've developed since WWII. the siege of sarajevo lasted for years. mosul, with the weight of the U.S. military bombing it to bits, took months of warfare. i'm certain the PRC would win eventually but i could imagine a war being a protracted event.
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Jun 2, 2022 09:19
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:one thing the ukraine war has me thinking about is how difficult cities have become to attack because of how much they've developed since WWII. im pretty sure the PLA is under no pretenses on how difficult it can get Im also more than sure the PLA won't care about that anyway once taiwan crosses the red line
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Jun 2, 2022 09:21
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I'm not an expert but taking Taiwan through invasion and occupation is still insane and the second it's not insane they'll probably do it. might be never
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Jun 2, 2022 09:26
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Antonymous posted:I also don't get it didn't taiwan have mandatory military for men. oh so now you want to learn how to shoot, you all took the civil option huh? I took ROTC in college even when given the choice of going with community outreach because I figured it'd be more organized and regimented rather than any kind of ooo-ra nationalism stuff what I do find interesting when these topics of "should we implement mandatory military training for national defense?" comes up is that people often critique ROTC for teaching people "how to march and stand in the sun, boring stuff, and not how to shoot a gun" and it seems like people don't really get the incessant drilling is a more important part of soldiery than the gunplay
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Jun 2, 2022 09:33
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Antonymous posted:I'm not an expert but taking Taiwan through invasion and occupation is still insane and the second it's not insane they'll probably do it. might be never but they'd settle it eventually. and will fight for it.
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Jun 2, 2022 09:35
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gradenko_2000 posted:I took ROTC in college even when given the choice of going with community outreach because I figured it'd be more organized and regimented rather than any kind of ooo-ra nationalism stuff lol if you think conscription anywhere isn't classic NIMBY
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Jun 2, 2022 09:37
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:one thing the ukraine war has me thinking about is how difficult cities have become to attack because of how much they've developed since WWII. Soviet urban warfare procedures following Stalingrad were to never enter a room without chucking in a grenade first.
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Jun 2, 2022 09:50
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Palladium posted:im pretty sure the PLA is under no pretenses on how difficult it can get It is more I doubt the PLA would take a Ukraine approach to Taiwan in the first place even if they were pressed. It would probably be more of a protracted siege/blockade with the PLAN/PLAAF sealing the island off, and then basically using time to their advantage. Also, if push comes to shove, the PLA could progressively dismantle the ROC's military and infrastructure to the point they wouldn't be able to really resist. It isn't that fun to think about, but I don't know any reason they would go for the Normandy route and get bogged down in urban fighting. Hell, land-based s-400 systems could cover all of Taiwan's air space on their own, and to be honest, even if the US marshaled the fleets etc...the PLA can also cover the seaways around Taiwan from land. Ardennes has issued a correction as of 10:00 on Jun 2, 2022 |
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Jun 2, 2022 09:52
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Ardennes posted:It is more I doubt the PLA would take a Ukraine approach to Taiwan in the first place even if they were pressed. It would probably be more of a protracted siege/blockade with the PLAN/PLAAF sealing the island off, and then basically using time to their advantage. Also, if push comes to shove, the PLA could progressively dismantle the ROC's military and infrastructure to the point they wouldn't be able to really resist. It isn't that fun to think about, but I don't know any reason they would go for the Normandy route and get bogged down in urban fighting. I agree - trying to take Taiwan via urban warfare would be incredibly destructive, which is why I don't think the PLA is going to do anything like it.
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Jun 2, 2022 09:54
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yeah that was my point. no fly zone and blockade, demand control of as much infrastructure as you can, and then fight an insurgency rather than a hostile organized army/state. but to do that you need the USA to stay out of it. hence the insane mantra of *taiwan is china, its an internal chinese affair* over and over I don't know anything though I'm a fat nerd. but that's what I would do lol
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Jun 2, 2022 09:58
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gradenko_2000 posted:I agree - trying to take Taiwan via urban warfare would be incredibly destructive, which is why I don't think the PLA is going to do anything like it. Admittedly, I think a blockade would still be messy even if the PRC let in humanitarian supplies, the entire Taiwanese economy would collapse and I am sure there wouldn't be a lot of love for the mainland. It is probably it is a last-ditch effort (that said I think the Ukrainian invasion was also pretty last-ditch). Antonymous posted:yeah that was my point. no fly zone and blockade, demand control of as much infrastructure as you can, and then fight an insurgency rather than a hostile organized army/state. Admittedly, I wonder how much this is about actually urban warfare itself but recruiting guys are really jazzed about the concept and want to wear some cool patches. (Average Taiwanese conscripts probably have nothing to do with the military ever again.)
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Jun 2, 2022 10:04
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however it shakes out i'd expect the PLA to fight to the end and i'm certain of that
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Jun 2, 2022 10:13
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:one thing the ukraine war has me thinking about is how difficult cities have become to attack because of how much they've developed since WWII. Nah it's going to handover after the troop surround the cities a la the Kabul model, which is the same Peking model in 1949.
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Jun 2, 2022 11:45
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Doesn't Taiwan rely on imports for food? Couldn't the PLA just surround them and starve them out.
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Jun 2, 2022 12:05
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I don't know about food but Taiwan heavily rely on import energy. So you can do blockade and blow up all the electric transformers (kinda what Russia is doing in Ukraine now).
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Jun 2, 2022 12:15
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taiwan imports something like 95% of its energy so the pla wouldn't even have to set a foot on the island. just blockade it for a couple of weeks and wait until all the lights go off
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Jun 2, 2022 13:20
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The Shanghai podcast I follow is back to the office in their latest episode. So according to anecdotal evidence Shanghai is coming out of lockdown?
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Jun 2, 2022 13:48
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built up areas are like modern day fortifications. if you have an army that’s large and willing to fight, but are outmatched in terms of firepower and training, drawing a better trained and equipped army into a city to fight you house by house evens the odds. everyone focuses on the few cases where this was true ( Stalingrad, grozny) and ignores all the other cities in every other war just surrendering because the army had already been destroyed in the field and fortifications are useless without soldiers manning them.
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Jun 2, 2022 14:43
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Palladium posted:lemme guess he is monologuing to himself again the story linked here is about some random civilians who decided to go shoot some Airsoft guns at a random civilian clubhouse in Taipei. I think by now posters in this thread should understand that all sexpat writing in Asian countries is just some variation of “ I went to a bar/did some stupid mundane poo poo today but here’s a novella about what this means for Chyna”
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Jun 2, 2022 14:47
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stephenthinkpad posted:I don't know about food but Taiwan heavily rely on import energy. So you can do blockade and blow up all the electric transformers (kinda what Russia is doing in Ukraine now). Taiwan is also a net importer of food as well I believe, but either way without access to refined petroleum, everything is going to break down including any type of agricultural production. (Also, even if the US assembled a fleet to break the blockade, the PLA would have layers of anti-air/anti-ship missiles covering the island and its approaches.)
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Jun 2, 2022 15:55
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edit: nm, already addressed.
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Jun 2, 2022 18:14
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stephenthinkpad posted:The Shanghai podcast I follow is back to the office in their latest episode. So according to anecdotal evidence Shanghai is coming out of lockdown? yeah
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Jun 2, 2022 18:32
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