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My cultural knowledge extends mainly to "Giovanni and Carmen are the names of characters in famous opera. Roland is of course the name of a famous myth cycle knight. Giovanni is also the name of Team Rocket's leader, but Netzach would probably run a stall comp around Snorlax instead of having a Persian."
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SlimeTheCrazy posted:Counter argument: Even the weird, tangential side arguments in this thread spawn excellent fan art. A sight to behold, truly 
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NullBlack posted:even if you don't know Klimt's name, Woman in Gold and the Kiss are pretty famous; if you didn't somehow recognize the visual reference in KoG, I'd have to conclude that you've never been to an art museum (particularly, never to the gift shop) What the gently caress. What the goddamn horseshit? How dare you touch computer code while also producing visual art that is not profoundly offensive to every sentient being? Does "programmer art" not mean anything to you?
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Nov 3, 2022 06:32
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SlimeTheCrazy posted:Counter argument: Ohh, I love these. 
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Nov 3, 2022 07:27
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SlimeTheCrazy posted:Counter argument: Looks like true classical art to me. What are we arguing about again?
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Nov 3, 2022 07:29
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I couldn't help myself after seeing this and reading the update. 
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Nov 3, 2022 11:55
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Not enough  in the world.
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SlimeTheCrazy posted:Counter argument: Alright I concede, that does actually look pretty good
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lyoid10 posted:Ok but whose gonna be the cute mascot character?....it's possibly roland  Roland is the Kyubey.
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Nov 3, 2022 23:56
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Update on the standee situation mother fcukers I found it! And also standees for the other girls!  
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Nov 4, 2022 04:12
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Holy poo poo those are amazing!
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Nov 4, 2022 04:36
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Standees huh? How about you stan deez nuts gotem
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Nov 4, 2022 04:55
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I was looking at Knight of Despair, laughing at the fairly cute solution of hanging the swords from the ceiling for effect, and then I notice the table and chairs behind her. These standees are pretty large huh?
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Nov 4, 2022 05:18
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I dunno why but I think the Queen of Hatred's standee is the creepiest. It gives me the most feeling of "gonna get ya". Like if I stare at it to long, it'll break through the screen and murder me.
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Nov 4, 2022 05:48
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Quackles posted:
I dunno about that, he's the one who signed a contract with Angela and became a magical girl.
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Nov 4, 2022 07:20
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I'll admit, whenever I see KoG's head on the elongated neck/anglerfish lure like that, I can't help but imagine it going dingle dingle dingle like a dingle bell, the kind you sometimes get on cat toys.
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Nov 4, 2022 14:34
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Poltergrift posted:I'll admit, whenever I see KoG's head on the elongated neck/anglerfish lure like that, I can't help but imagine it going dingle dingle dingle like a dingle bell, the kind you sometimes get on cat toys. Imagine a cat abno big ‘nuff to use KoG as a toy. It’d basically be the “I’m sorry Jon” meme, but worse.
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Nov 4, 2022 20:14
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BassMug posted:
Maybe that'll be one of the abnos related to Wizard of Oz! There's some kind of lion in Wonderlab for sure, but I don't remember if they gave much detail about him.
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BassMug posted:
This makes me think about the fact that while we have a good few dog (and arguably...dog...ish) abnos, there's not really much in the way of cat abnormalities. Wonder if the folks at PM are dog people.
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cats are the dominant lifeform in the City and are in charge of the Head
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Semi related note do you think in a alternate timeline instead of the rabbit team of r corp what if there dog team in r corp known as the rovers
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I think I remember a thing from LobCorp where they mention R Corp having a bunch of other animal themed teams (all beginning with R) like Rhino team. So I don't think it would even need to be an alternate timeline, they might just have that already.
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Book 36: The Thumb—Chapter 1 Music: Lobby  It feels like it's been a while since we've seen this screen, huh? Today, we're following up on the far left node, using the Books we got from the Index all the way back at the start of Urban Nightmare. VIDEO Music: StoryJinji    It’s good to see our families gathered up in one place. Let’s see… We have nineteen seats filled. That means all but one family have attended.  Still recovering, I see… Thanks for the report. Cut those friends off. We don’t need a toothless mutt that can’t rearm itself with that much time. Understood. Today’s issue is simple. Take your hands off L Corp’s Nest and the Library. The Thumb will be in direct command of the matter from now on. I’d like to give a word of appreciation for the families that have shown much effort. And…   The dissension does not go over well, met with immediate violence.  Who gave you the right to speak up?     However, I must say that I share their sentiment in all honesty. Why should we back out now, after we’ve given so much effort? I understand how disappointing it may be. All of you have spilled much blood in order to earn your share of turf before the street relocation happens. I wish I could give out a sizable chunk of the land for each and every family who have gathered here, I really do. But the capo dei capi demands otherwise. We have no choice but to obey it. The situation outside is going in an unexpected direction. A party other than the Index is involved in this conflict. The ones who pilfered our fabric… I am deeply ashamed, sire. Don’t be too hard on yourself, now. I’ll pardon your manners by taking only your left hand. Thank you, sire! Do understand that we can’t let such trivial issues distract ourselves in times like this. We must carry out the capo dei capi’s orders first and foremost.  This statement is also met with immediate violence.  When one dares question the orders of their superior, take their head… How insolent of you to question the intentions of the capo dei capi. Such impure thoughts should be uprooted. Purge every member of the Night Awls by tonight. Yes, sire. I’ll give the word.  Yes, our boss insisted that we mustn’t let the Index claim a single area of L Corp’s Nest. But you, my friends, don’t quite have the prowess to take on the Proxies of the Index. Hence the order to pull out. So we should save up our strength at the moment. I understand now. This goes to the other sottocapi of the Thumb and their families as well. Our ambition is not something as short-sighted as taking over a few blocks of space. Do you understand? Music: Lobby   The Index probably gave you a good idea already, but… yeah. The Fingers have rules and hierarchies that I’d only describe as paranoid. The specifics may be different, but if anyone breaks their rules, that poor fellow is done for. Although each Finger has its own way of purging rulebreakers. I suppose that’s the “strategy” they evolved to survive in the City. Spot on. They can only survive by shoving themselves into a sturdy, unbreakable shell. And the five Syndicates that crammed themselves all the way into the core of that hard shell and stood on the apex of the Backstreets earned the title of the ‘Five Fingers’. Welp, in any case, our job as the staff of the Library is to receive any guests that come here, and the Thumb is no exception.Next time, on Library of Ruina: Our first taste of true Star of the City combat. Videos Thumb 1   Mmmmmmmmm…! So we'll be receiving the Thumb at last… I'll go make the request now. Are you satisfied? Thaanks… It's a good staart…  You're seeming a bit more on edge than usual, kiddo. That… 'uunderbooss,' was it..? I rememberr… that faace… Ah, so this is about that time you got kicked out of the J district's casinos. Mmm… It's been over ten years… In the City… I didn't really think he'd still be aliive…  This level of obsession over being kicked out of a casino seems a little much, even for a human's fragile psyche. It was… how I paid for finding aaliens… Without it, I was penniless… Mmm… until the L Corp acceptance letter arrived a week laater…  When did you find time to apply? You had to applyy..? Setting that aside, it doesn't look like he's coming this time. That was the sense I got, anyways. We'll probably have to take out his minions first, like with the Zwei. Then I'll have to make sure we wiin… at all coosts… … … Hey, D.A.D, Null_Miaa..? Need some help? Mmm… I'm not that great at the 'people' part of card games… I can't read bluffs, or figure out a person's favorite playstylee… I just find what's optimaal… and aalien buddy isn't great at it eeither… Could you help make the plan todaay..? Making sure we don't lose at any cost, right? Sure, kiddo. I don't mind putting a thumb on the scale for us. This hardly seems like the time for puns. Which is why making them is twice as important, kiddo. 
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So, the Thumb is basically a mixture of famous organised crime groups. Italian Mafia is clearly seen in the naming scheme and japanese Yakuza in [self]dismemberment-as-punishment. Maybe others, I am not quite versed in south-east asia organised crime. As Index is obsessed with following random demands they call Prescripts, Thumb is obsessed with rigid hierarchy and power of those above over those below them. Baiscally their Prescript is word of superior. Which makes them no less crazed fanatics than Index, but with different flavor. It might seem that dismemberment for slight violation of conduct in the meeting is hyperbolisation, but it kinda makes sense in the City: you can replace lost limbs if you have money, as Roland says in intro. Actually important people to the gang will become useful again in no time, and if you are not important... well, it is your problem, isn't it?
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MiiNiPaa posted:It might seem that dismemberment for slight violation of conduct in the meeting is hyperbolisation, but it kinda makes sense in the City: you can replace lost limbs if you have money, as Roland says in intro. Actually important people to the gang will become useful again in no time, and if you are not important... well, it is your problem, isn't it? Indeed. Kalo himself has a cool robo arm, and I presume he lost his original one as a punitive measure.
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MiiNiPaa posted:As Index is obsessed with following random demands they call Prescripts, Thumb is obsessed with rigid hierarchy and power of those above over those below them. Baiscally their Prescript is word of superior. Which makes them no less crazed fanatics than Index, but with different flavor. I'll take a rigid code with well-defined rules and punishments over the fortune cookie brand of crazy the Index has, though.
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Shut up and don't complain isn't that hard a rule to follow honestly, you would think the guys working under the thumb would know better.
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Well it's probably a bit harder to follow when the things you're told to shut up about are people you know being slaughtered for ultimately no gain, or being asked to pay amounts of money you can't possibly have. But I guess it's true that people who get invited to a meeting with the guy just under the big boss definitely should know better by now.
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Deep Dish Fuckfest posted:Well it's probably a bit harder to follow when the things you're told to shut up about are people you know being slaughtered for ultimately no gain, or being asked to pay amounts of money you can't possibly have. But I guess it's true that people who get invited to a meeting with the guy just under the big boss definitely should know better by now. Deep Dish Fuckfest posted:I'll take a rigid code with well-defined rules and punishments over the fortune cookie brand of crazy the Index has, though.
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Say what you will about the Thumb, at least their structure is somewhat grounded and understandable, based in Real Things like obedience and respect-the Index is basically a cult worshipping a random number generator.
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I'd say that every syndicate's ruleset being unable to measurably outperform said dice-rolling is more of a scathing indictment than anything else.
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Nov 5, 2022 19:13
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I guess it’s time to face some MENACING MEN
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and only then will we be ready for the wrath of the PANTSLESS MAN
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MetaMeme posted:I'd say that every syndicate's ruleset being unable to measurably outperform said dice-rolling is more of a scathing indictment than anything else. I dunno. The fact that the Index can follow these "random" instructions and yet not fall apart all on their own suggests that there's more than just dice-rolling going on. BassMug posted:MENACING MEN Hwurmp posted:PANTSLESS MAN
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The Thumb being the United Nations of organized crime is pretty cool, not gonna lie. Terrifying, but not half as much as the districts of literal cannibals or the trains filled with existential nightmare.
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Nov 5, 2022 20:56
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And now we face our strongest foes yet.... *Italians.*
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TeeQueue posted:
So Kaori met Kalo in past, huh? She should consider herself lucky that whatever she did to get kicked out of the casino didn't cost her an arm or her head.
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MiiNiPaa posted:So, the Thumb is basically a mixture of famous organised crime groups. Italian Mafia is clearly seen in the naming scheme and japanese Yakuza in [self]dismemberment-as-punishment. Maybe others, I am not quite versed in south-east asia organised crime. I'm not looking forward to when we fight the Middle Finger. 
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Here's the thing I think Roland either help the black silence attack the thumb or did it himself as that because before the Library Roland did not have much info on the pianist(I.E the thing that killed his wife) and at the time going for the big gropes like the thumb for info would work but of course doing so would have consequences but keep in mind Roland said so himself at a point of his life he was not in a right state of mind, and given how the lost one he loved the timing make to much sense for it. Good lord now I'm just picturing Roland going john wick on thumb, and it dose not help that both of them are wearing same color suits or said people they are attacking are a crime family.
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Can I just say how creative Projmoon is with the awfulness of The City? Like, in a lesser work of dystopia around now’s where I’d be going “geez, we get it, slready” to whatever point they’re making about society. Not because the point is invalid or wrong, but because it’s been hammered in the same way every time, y’know? But The City is horrible and amazing, and only gets worse with each layer we discover. And it does so in fresh, interesting ways such that we’re all still hyped to see what evils turbo-capitalism will wreak next. It hasn’t all turned to bland mush, it repeatedly tops itself with new and colorful ways the nastiness manifests. Like, mundane evil is a huge part of the setting, but we also started out with dripping organ traffickers, went on to swordslinging cops for hire, and only got wilder and worse from there. I think that’s really fuckin’ neat, and a testament to how good their writing is.
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