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I saw Blackfish, and I'm not sure why movies like that bother me. Is it because I instantly see parallels to human beings in stories about slavery and captivity for profit?
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:I saw Blackfish, and I'm not sure why movies like that bother me. Is it because I instantly see parallels to human beings in stories about slavery and captivity for profit? Just basic empathy for living things. Even the most compassionate and well-run zoo in the world is still a zoo, where creatures are kept captive for our amusement. And if the zoos are lovely, then it becomes quite sad and a little... sadistic?
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Aug 3, 2013 19:33
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:I saw Blackfish, and I'm not sure why movies like that bother me. Is it because I instantly see parallels to human beings in stories about slavery and captivity for profit? It illustrates or highlights disturbing elements of human nature and society.
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Aug 3, 2013 20:42
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I think what troubles me is that you'll find most people probably find such things intuitively wrong yet feel powerless to change them. Indeed, a lot of people find easier sympathy with animals. What hope do fellow humans have? Its really disquieting.
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Aug 3, 2013 20:58
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EDIT: Sorry, didn't mean to post this in this thread.
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Aug 3, 2013 20:58
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exquisite tea posted:This is more of a film industry question and it might seem really stupid, but what does one actually DO with a screenplay once they write it? Like you hear the occasional story of some nobody's script being picked up by a studio, or of screenwriters mailing out drafts of their project to every major production company, but is there some department that actually reads all of these (mostly terrible) submissions in search of some Oscar-bound masterpiece? It just feels like unless you're connected in some way with a producer willing to finance your project, there's little to no reason for a studio to ever seek outside submissions for screenplays. Watch Bowfinger, it explains everything.
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Aug 3, 2013 23:48
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:I think what troubles me is that you'll find most people probably find such things intuitively wrong yet feel powerless to change them. Indeed, a lot of people find easier sympathy with animals. What hope do fellow humans have? Its really disquieting. This is why District 9 makes me so loving sick. Like reality is so gross and hopeless that you need cute space bugs to even get people to let you talk about it.
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Aug 4, 2013 03:15
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Jack Gladney posted:This is why District 9 makes me so loving sick. Like reality is so gross and hopeless that you need cute space bugs to even get people to let you talk about it. I wouldn't call those space bugs cute. In fact, I'm pretty sure they were supposed to be repulsive looking.
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Aug 4, 2013 04:32
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IShallRiseAgain posted:I wouldn't call those space bugs cute. In fact, I'm pretty sure they were supposed to be repulsive looking.  I'm going to add some actual words here to make sure so that it's clear this a joke. I really liked District 9 but it had some problems. syscall girl fucked around with this message at 04:43 on Aug 4, 2013 |
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Aug 4, 2013 04:39
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IShallRiseAgain posted:I wouldn't call those space bugs cute. In fact, I'm pretty sure they were supposed to be repulsive looking. Christopher's son was most definitely a big, doe eyed 'cute bug' designed for the express purpose of creating empathy.
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Er, wrong thread
MisterBibs fucked around with this message at 09:26 on Aug 4, 2013 |
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Aug 4, 2013 09:22
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Folks, which book about Kurosawa is good? Amazon has like 5 of 'em and I'd rather not buy some hot bullshit. Also, is his his book "Something Like An Autobiography"?
El Gallinero Gros fucked around with this message at 02:18 on Aug 5, 2013 |
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Aug 5, 2013 02:15
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IShallRiseAgain posted:I wouldn't call those space bugs cute. In fact, I'm pretty sure they were supposed to be repulsive looking. In a movie with Jake Busey, who can say what is truly the most repulsive thing?
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Aug 5, 2013 02:56
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Does anyone have a link to that old Transformers thread where the OP was doing deep analysis on the entire trilogy? It was cut short, but from what I remember it was excellent reading, and I wanted to share it with some friends.
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Aug 5, 2013 05:41
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weekly font posted:In a movie with Jake Busey, who can say what is truly the most repulsive thing? Jake Busey was in District 9?
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Aug 5, 2013 08:01
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edit: oh I thought you said gary busey
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Aug 5, 2013 11:03
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El Gallinero Gros posted:Folks, which book about Kurosawa is good? Amazon has like 5 of 'em and I'd rather not buy some hot bullshit. Also, is his his book "Something Like An Autobiography"? Yeah, that's his autobio. It's a quality read.
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weekly font posted:In a movie with Jake Busey, who can say what is truly the most repulsive thing? For some reason I thought we were talking about Starship Troopers.
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Aug 5, 2013 12:28
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Green Bean posted:Does anyone have a link to that old Transformers thread where the OP was doing deep analysis on the entire trilogy? It was cut short, but from what I remember it was excellent reading, and I wanted to share it with some friends. From a few pages back:
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Aug 6, 2013 02:15
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Does anyone know what movie this article is talking about?quote:Having done this Mr. Cranky thing for some time now, I have been on the delivering end of a barrage of insults directed toward the writer of some movie for contributing to their craft what flies contribute to piles of dog poo poo. In fact, I’ve probably called for more than one writer to be immediately dismissed from the Writer’s Guild and thrown out onto the street to live in the alleys or the gutters or wherever it is that they can go where they can’t possibly inflict their idea of “writing” on the rest of us. I am guilty of the very thing I am now about to criticize other critics for doing. I think it might be Surrogates- I know that the comic book that it was based on was more of a mystery than an action story, it came out around the same time this was written (September 2009), and it had a major star (Bruce Willis) who's been known to be a pain on the set of movies.
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Aug 6, 2013 17:20
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The Monkey Man posted:Does anyone know what movie this article is talking about? Nope, not Surrogates. For one, that was written by two writers. And it never really changed genres. Sounds like what happened to Big Daddy. From what I heard, the script was a touching meditation on adoption or something, and then turned into a dumb Adam Sandler comedy. This process happens to 90% of films in Hollywood. So really, it could be any film in theaters right now. Except The Way, Way Back.
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Aug 6, 2013 17:36
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He seems to imply that it was a recent movie (Big Daddy would've been a decade old at the time), but yeah, I just noticed that he said that it was "funny," so it probably isn't Surrogates. It could be a whole lot of things.
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Aug 6, 2013 17:52
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Is it just me or are their far to many movies coming out in August, it seems we have about 3 or 4 big titles a week.
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Aug 7, 2013 12:38
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Are we able to pinpoint the movie that started the single-word subtitle trend of the 90s and 00s (and is still used every so often today)? You know, where instead of a number and/or statement of a subtitle, a sequel will simply have one word after the colon, and like 75% of the time the word ends in "-tion". I can remember back when this naming convention actually seemed fresh, but these days is so oldhat it almost instantly screams 'trash sequel', especially when it's using a subtitle already used by a prior movie(s). Seriously, 'Resurrection' at this point is the successor to 'The Revenge', and 'Revelations' is hot on its heels.
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Aug 7, 2013 12:57
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I don't know if it started the trend but the Matrix trilogy probably played a significant part in its popularity.
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It was probably the Matrix movies but there are other films that also follow that pattern.  (It looks like the first one to do that convention was some Mortal Kombat movie in 1996 but that was probably not the trend setter.) computer parts fucked around with this message at 15:58 on Aug 7, 2013 |
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Aug 7, 2013 15:53
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Slasherfan posted:Is it just me or are their far to many movies coming out in August, it seems we have about 3 or 4 big titles a week. It's funny, back in the late 1990s there were so many rules about release dates. Late winter/early spring was reserved for leftovers from the Holiday season and expanded releases for awards-bait and no real blockbusters came out. Then, The Matrix came out of nowhere and made distributors rethink their distribution schedules. If something was released in August, it typically meant it sucked and box office numbers were weak because everyone had blown their wad earlier in the summer and consumers were enjoying their last month of summer so presumably avoided going to the movies. And then The Sixth Sense happened and dominated August and made a ton of money and distributors had to rethink their distribution schedules. 1999 really shook up the norm for distribution schedules, and slowly over the past decade the summer release schedules and the Holiday release schedules have slowly morphed together. Now, we have a glut of big movies all year long!
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Aug 7, 2013 18:00
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VorpalBunny posted:It's funny, back in the late 1990s there were so many rules about release dates. Late winter/early spring was reserved for leftovers from the Holiday season and expanded releases for awards-bait and no real blockbusters came out. Then, The Matrix came out of nowhere and made distributors rethink their distribution schedules. Actually, I think it's become more like before. It's just that, occasionally, something unexpected will come along at the right time and dominate a slow season. The pattern you mentioned still exists: The early year is dominated by throw-away releases and expanded release Oscar-bait. The spring is always kind of weak but someone is always trying to throw something in there that might catch fire. Summer is as it has always been but now begins squarely at the beginning of May (not Memorial Day as was traditional). Summer is pretty much done after mid-July but you'll still get a few releases with decent expectations into August. Fall is weird as it holds a couple of decent weekends (Labor Day, Halloween) to cater to specific audiences but is also a desert. Then you've got the holidays starting at Thanksgiving and going through New Years and Hollywood as really made an effort to make them almost as big as Summer (whereas prior you'd get holiday specific movies and family movies). I think this began with the Lord of the Rings but I'm probably wrong.
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Aug 7, 2013 18:31
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VorpalBunny posted:Nope, not Surrogates. For one, that was written by two writers. And it never really changed genres. Sandler did the same thing with '50 First Dates', which was a script that was on the blacklist for a while that he and his writers 'touched up'. Obviously he needed a way to shoehorn Rob Schneider in there.
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Aug 7, 2013 21:43
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Why is Ben's last word is 'Wow' in 'Leaving Las Vegas' ?
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Aug 7, 2013 22:19
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computer parts posted:It was probably the Matrix movies but there are other films that also follow that pattern. Ah, while we're citing Star Trek movies, there's Star Trek: Generations from 1994. After that there's Alien Resurrection and Mortal Kombat Annihilation which were both 1997 I think, and there's probably some inbetween then. You could make a case for Batman Returns (which was 92) but I'm not sure I'd count that.
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Aug 7, 2013 23:19
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Books had been doing it for a while. Fletch Won, Fletch Too (Fletch Won was a prequel to Fletch, published 10 years later)
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Aug 8, 2013 06:58
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^^ Good to know, but those examples, like the Batman movies, are more turn-the-title-into-a-phrase rather than a subtitle, even if they only add one word. They seem to register differently. Of course, that's just me.
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lizardman posted:^^ Good to know, but those examples, like the Batman movies, are more turn-the-title-into-a-phrase rather than a subtitle, even if they only add one word. They seem to register differently. Of course, that's just me. Yeah, like Star Trek Into Darkness or Superman Returns. No colons.
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Funny, I just noticed that Star Trek Generations and Alien Resurrection both don't have colons officially. I suspect that's just for aesthetic reasons but it`s interesting to try to read those titles as whole statements: the former becomes something meaning `generations of Star Trek' while the latter describes its resurrection as alien, which reminds me that I read somewhere that the original Alien actually meant for its title to be an adjective rather than a noun, which whoever came up with the title of the 2nd film didn't realize (or perhaps just didn't care, since `Aliens` is a pretty drat cool title).
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Aug 8, 2013 14:21
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Why do trailers sometimes have a line/scene not in the release of the movie? Indiana Jones Crystal Skull's "Part time" one liner was entirely different in the trailer and I just saw a review for Ted that talks about how a certain line was in the trailer but not the movie. Are the people that make the ads different from the people making the version that plays in theaters or something like that?
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Aug 8, 2013 14:23
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Blast of Confetti posted:Why do trailers sometimes have a line/scene not in the release of the movie? Indiana Jones Crystal Skull's "Part time" one liner was entirely different in the trailer and I just saw a review for Ted that talks about how a certain line was in the trailer but not the movie. The film's still being put through postproduction when trailers are released. Tweaks like that can basically be made up to fairly late in the process.
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Blast of Confetti posted:Why do trailers sometimes have a line/scene not in the release of the movie? Indiana Jones Crystal Skull's "Part time" one liner was entirely different in the trailer and I just saw a review for Ted that talks about how a certain line was in the trailer but not the movie. Yes. Trailers are made by marketing companies, which is why so many trailers tend to follow the same patterns and beats; it's the same guys making them. And a lot of the time, some of the footage they're given for a trailer ends up being different takes than the footage used in the actual movie, or they get a scene that they put in the trailer that ends up being deleted from the final cut of the movie. Generally speaking, the filmmaker doesn't really have much input on the trailer, except in somewhat rare cases. EDIT: For example, I'm pretty sure that Fincher was able to do his own ad for Girl With the Dragon Tattoo. But like I said, that's a rare thing, generally they just send a highlights reel out to a company who puts some stock music behind it and edits together all the funny parts. Crappy Jack fucked around with this message at 15:03 on Aug 8, 2013 |
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Aug 8, 2013 14:39
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Ohh, that makes sense then. Explains why that same loving song from the 80s or 90s is in every campy feel good movie trailer ever, too.
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The missing footage from a trailer that I remember most clearly would be from Twister. IIRC, it's a POV shot from inside a truck, and as it's driving down the road, a big farm tractor is picked up and tossed into the truck by the storm. I remember it because it was pointed out in the MTV Movie Awards show from that year.
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