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The only top 10 pick since 2000 to not play a lot their first season was Jake Locker.
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Im here for the AFCe bro club to keep excluding Tua. https://twitter.com/patspulpit/status/1261771565273878529
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May 17, 2020 00:59
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It’s funny how we drafted a QB I really love during a loving pandemic that puts everything in question for 2020 lol
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May 17, 2020 01:08
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No sorry can't relate. It's like Schroedinger's cat but with slightly less mystery because the poor bastard's been in there for weeks without food or water. Eifert Posting fucked around with this message at 10:08 on May 17, 2020 |
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May 17, 2020 09:52
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https://twitter.com/FieldYates/status/1261974712604921856
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May 17, 2020 12:50
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Ah, drinking and driving in the truest sense. https://twitter.com/danfetes/status/1262016738138501120?s=21
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May 17, 2020 14:59
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Gotta be 6 games. Herndon got 4 just for a DUI and this is DUI + Gun.
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May 17, 2020 15:33
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Part 2 of miamis off season plan is going swimmingly. Now to just ruin the Jets by *checks notes* [I]reads/i] 😈 making sure Adam Gase stays safe and healthy Oh
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May 17, 2020 15:45
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Two first round draft picks from the same draft class and in the same division getting arrested on gun charges in the same off-season sure is something Hopefully the gun aspect gets resolved without much craziness like it seems Quinnens charge will be Professor Funk fucked around with this message at 16:51 on May 17, 2020 |
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May 17, 2020 16:43
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mcmagic posted:The only top 10 pick since 2000 to not play a lot their first season was Jake Locker. carson palmer went #1 in 2003 and was a healthy scratch for the bengals all season long, phillip rivers went #4 in 2004 and had a combined 30 pass attempts in 4 games his first two seasons, jamarcus didn’t start until week 13 partially because he missed training camp with a contract holdout but mostly because lane kiffin wanted to bring him along slowly, goff didn’t start until mid november, mahomes was already mentioned, and you yourself mentioned jake locker so it’s not super common anymore but it’s also not that uncommon to take a qb top 10 and let them sit for a year or two; usually there’s an entrenched starter but sometimes you’ll have a dude sit behind case keenum
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May 17, 2020 18:10
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 All top 10 QB picks since 09. Most of them started immediately and probably shouldn't have. Part of the problem is if your drafting in the top 10 your probably lacking a QB anyway and have a ton of holes to fill. My thought is it's always better to have a QB sit for 3-4 games, and let him get a dead cat bounce when he goes in. It shouldn't be too surprising that of the cream of the crop currently (Mahomes, Jackson, Brees, Rodgers) all sat. I mean if anything this shows that the NFL is either awful at scouting QBs or developing QBs.
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May 17, 2020 18:47
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syzpid posted:
Yeah it'd be great if QB's could sit but it very rarely happens. Ryan Fitzbpatrick is right on the cusp so I could see a Jon Kitna Carson Palmer situation happening.
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May 17, 2020 19:12
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Fitz never follows up his first good year with a team well.
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May 17, 2020 19:28
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Professor Funk posted:Hopefully the gun aspect gets resolved without much craziness like it seems Quinnens charge will be Oliver would be in much deeper legal poo poo if instead of Texas he was in NY. Still drunk driving really sucks and I'd imagine he's going to be eating a suspension from the league. I'd imagine somewhere between 3-5 games at least.
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May 17, 2020 20:00
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pasaluki posted:Oliver would be in much deeper legal poo poo if instead of Texas he was in NY. I would guess a 4 game suspension. He’s for sure lucky he’s in Texas. New York he might be facing prison time if the gun was loaded etc. Speaking of which, the NFL should require teams to do a crash course with rookies (or all players even) about their state gun laws. Especially for players coming to the Northeast from the South who probably have no clue that states can have pretty strict firearm laws and who just assume that the gun they registered in Alabama or wherever is fine to carry around in [pick a state with strict gun laws]. Professor Funk fucked around with this message at 20:31 on May 17, 2020 |
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May 17, 2020 20:28
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mcmagic posted:Fitz never follows up his first good year with a team well. Neither does Gregg Williams.
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May 17, 2020 22:36
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TheBizzness posted:Neither does Gregg Williams. He'll be fine when he takes over as HC midseason.
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May 17, 2020 23:01
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mcmagic posted:He'll be fine when he takes over as HC midseason. ... drat. Fair enough.
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May 17, 2020 23:15
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mcmagic posted:He'll be fine when he takes over as HC midseason. Best case scenario for Jets. Do you root for early disaster? Gase going 4-4 thru the front half keeps his job, teases competency.
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May 17, 2020 23:26
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torgeaux posted:Best case scenario for Jets. Do you root for early disaster? Gase going 4-4 thru the front half keeps his job, teases competency. start 2-6, gase fired, darnold gets hot and they go 7-1 down the stretch and make it into the wildcard gregg williams is back baby
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May 18, 2020 00:08
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Gregg Williams replaced in 2021 by some slap dick coordinator nobody had ever considered for a Head Coaching in before.
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May 18, 2020 00:16
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torgeaux posted:Best case scenario for Jets. Do you root for early disaster? Gase going 4-4 thru the front half keeps his job, teases competency. This is probably the closest to my thinking. Mediocrity is the worst possible outcome.
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May 18, 2020 00:16
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Mcmagic i have no idea why you think miamis decision making will take into account Fitzs actual on field performance. It won’t. At all. Only if it hinders the growth of our younger prospects.
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May 18, 2020 04:52
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I'd rather have Fitzpatrick than Dalton as a backup, you can at least kid yourself into believing if you need him to start a playoff game it might not be a disaster.
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May 18, 2020 05:04
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let him among us who doesn't drive drunk with that thing on him pop the first shot
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May 18, 2020 05:05
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Amy Pole Her posted:Mcmagic i have no idea why you think miamis decision making will take into account Fitzs actual on field performance. It won’t. At all. Your rational for sitting him is that A) You're going to hurt his development by playing him or B) You are trying to protect him from getting hurt and I'm telling you that there is really no proof that sitting a QB helps his development and that teams don't sit healthy first round QB's because they are scared of their OL.
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May 18, 2020 05:31
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You’re literally making up A. I’ve flat out said the opposite. Directly to you! And yes I’m saying the dolphins will keep him off the field until they’re confident the folks they’ve decided are his offensive line have begun to form a cohesion. So there’s literally zero chance you’ll see him anytime in the first half of the season.
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May 18, 2020 05:35
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Amy Pole Her posted:Mcmagic i have no idea why you think miamis decision making will take into account Fitzs actual on field performance. It won’t. At all. I'm genuinely baffled by this discussion. If Fitz starts 1-4, the pressure to start Tua will be overwhelming--not just from the fan base, but from the national media, other players, and likely ownership. There's just no precedent from the last 15 years for a QB drafted in the top 10 to sit out a season behind an old, struggling starter.
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May 18, 2020 05:47
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I can appreciate it if you’re viewing it solely from a historical point of view but it’s been made so mind numbingly clearly within the Dolphins front office folks what the plan is that I’ll just say it again - if Tua starts before week 8 then our OL is really ahead of schedule or wiw shits gone bad and Rosen’s dead
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May 18, 2020 05:57
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Amy Pole Her posted:You’re literally making up A. I’ve flat out said the opposite. Directly to you! The surety of the way you say this despite it being something that never happens and you having really no idea if it's true or not is quite something.
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May 18, 2020 05:59
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mcmagic posted:The surety of the way you say this despite it being something that never happens and you having really no idea if it's true or not is quite something. Lol ok sure. I feel like the folks I talk to have proven their info is pretty reliable but i guess whatever works for you fireman Ed. Maybe a bet on that 8 week over under you threw out there? Can this be the time you actually fulfill a bet and not disappear?
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May 18, 2020 06:05
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Amy Pole Her posted:Lol ok sure. I literally win all my bets here so idk what you're talking about. Who are you talking to who is telling you this?
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May 18, 2020 06:08
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You literally disappeared after you were dead wrong about declaring that Knowshon Moreno wouldnt break 100 yards... and then he hit 200+ his first week. .. what bets have you won?
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May 18, 2020 06:09
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Amy Pole Her posted:You literally disappeared after you were dead wrong about declaring that Knowshon Moreno wouldnt break 100 yards... and then he hit 200+ his first week. Christ that was a long time ago.... It's possible that I was wrong about a player 10 years ago. I don't even have the slightest memory of that but I'm glad you do lol. Didn't I win passing bets on both Tannehill and Josh Allen? mcmagic fucked around with this message at 06:15 on May 18, 2020 |
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May 18, 2020 06:11
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Let’s make it 2020, you’re right. Week 8. If he starts before you get X, if he doesn’t I get Y. Thoughts on our variables there?
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May 18, 2020 06:18
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Amy Pole Her posted:Let’s make it 2020, you’re right. Week 8. If he starts before you get X, if he doesn’t I get Y. Thoughts on our variables there? I'm really tired of making stupid bets that get forgotten the day after they are made. We'll see who's right. If he's healthy he will play.
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May 18, 2020 06:19
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So on one hand... you lost a bet that i embarrassingly remember TOO well but on the other hand NOW we shouldn’t make It because people will forget it tomorrow? Man. That logic. Best of luck.
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May 18, 2020 06:21
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Amy Pole Her posted:So on one hand... you lost a bet that i embarrassingly remember TOO well but on the other hand NOW we shouldn’t make It because people will forget it tomorrow? I don't remember him having 200 yards because it never happend heh. What was the bet again? That he wouldn't have 100 yards in a game? He had 14 yards the rest of the season after that game too lol. See why bets are stupid? https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/MoreKn00/gamelog/2014/ mcmagic fucked around with this message at 06:40 on May 18, 2020 |
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May 18, 2020 06:33
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Oh yeah it was 146 yards after his first game. Not sure where I got 200+, my super decade long memory must’ve faded. Either way. So you were only kinda wrong not hilariously wrong. And he was IRd like 3 carries after his first big game so yeah, not a great rest of the year from the hospital.
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Amy Pole Her posted:Oh yeah it was 146 yards after his first game. Not sure where I got 200+, my super decade long memory must’ve faded. Either way. So you were only kinda wrong not hilariously wrong. You're the one who brought it up...
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