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Pingui posted:Considering the analysis flies in the face of pretty much everything else on the matter, I am not going to give them the benefit of the doubt, so in conclusion: vaccinations reduce hospitalizations, less so under Omicron. Also, considering that we seem to be rapidly breeding variants that ninja right past our antibodies, the supposed “mildness” of current strains seems rather immaterial.
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Zugzwang posted:“patients with omicron infection were significantly less likely to be admitted to the hospital, require oxygen, or admission to the ICU (X2 = 12.8 p < 0.001, X2 = 21.6 p < 0.002, X2 = 9.6 p = 0.01, respectively). In patients whose vaccination status was known, a substantial number had breakthrough infections with delta or omicron variants (218/808 [26.9%] and 513/696 [73.7%], respectively). In breakthrough infections, hospitalization rate was similar regardless of variant by multivariate analysis.” Going through their data: 1.) Overall hospitalization rate for non-omicron ~12% vs 6% for omicron. 2.) Among known vaccinated patients, the breakthrough hospitalization rate was ~2% for WT/alpha/gamma, ~3% for delta, and ~4.5% for omicron, although these differences are not statistically significant. So within the resolving power of the study, the breakthrough hospitalization rate for all variants is "a couple to a few %" One interpretation of these data is that omicron is less severe than delta, and vaccinated people just have such good protection against hospitalization to begin with that there is no statistically observable difference in the relatively low hospitalization rates among vaxxed people. 1/30 chance of going to hospital nbd, open biden. A second interpretation is that overall seropositivity in the omicron infected population--whether from prior infection or vaccination--was much (much) higher than in delta, alpha, or earlier waves. Therefore, the higher hospitalization rate in pre-omicron waves may be attributed to a more immunologically naive population. In the vaccinated cohort, nobody is immunologically naive, and so they show the lowest hospitalization rates. However, even in vaccinated people, the breakthrough hospitalization and ICU rates are non-negligible, and within an order of magnitude of the unvaxxed rates. Also, while the numbers may not have high statistical confidence, it looks like the rate of breakthrough hospitalization is getting worse with each new variant--possibly indicating that the effectiveness of our immunological experience is waning. Edit: actually, the differences in breakthrough hospitalization rate between variants *is* statistically significant in their study...just not the differences in ICU admission rates. So lol & lmao.
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Zugzwang posted:Yeah, that was my impression as well upon closer inspection.  They are all Omicron, so now everyone can forever point at this paper which documents the mildness.
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Morbus posted:Do not run a UVC lamp for extended periods of time indoors unless you can confirm it is not producing ozone. That requires you to have accurate information about the spectrum of light emitted by the lamp, not just the center wavelength. The information provided by manufacturers of most inexpensive lamps is dogshit and unreliable, so you need to either have some way of independently confirming it, or know enough about UVC lamp technology to make an assessment based on the type of lamp. thanks for that, yeah I don’t have any way to tell if it’s JUST the right wavelength the plan with this is just to have it turn on when the door opens, run for like 90 seconds and shut down. I don’t know if that mitigates the ozone hazard or what though. this sucks.
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Ebola Roulette posted:How did public health gently caress this up so bad? "Public health" is so passé. It's all about individualized decisions now. Or, in other words: 
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Jumping ahead to note that the Washington state dashboard has this notification:quote:Due to a security breach encountered by one of Washington's hospital organizations, data about cases, hospitalizations, deaths, and testing are incomplete in some counties as of October 3, 2022. This could affect up to 100 COVID cases per day as well as associated hospitalizations and deaths. The issue is likely to last for the next several weeks. We will update this data note as additional information becomes available. Ransomware?
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Sup covid thread. Has this covid/weed study been discussed?: Cannabis Use Is Associated With Lower COVID-19 Susceptibility but Poorer Survival  They studied smoking so I guess the key to lower covid susceptibility and better survival is to stick to edibles? I am currently seeking funding for further research.
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Pingui posted:Some people just don't believe in math mawarannahr posted:Wealthy YOSPOS goons lurking this thread: send Greg money I appreciate it! But the thing is, it's not the money. Nobody I mention this to thinks it's something we should be concerned about. I don't even mention covid when I bring this up, I just talk about cleaner air. No one goes for it. I've been at this for all of 2022 so far, and the only progress I've made is to get people who already have district provided air filters in their room to turn the drat things on. It's weird!
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mawarannahr posted:Please do not beet your wife without her informed consent.
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[Pestilence] have you stopped beeting your wife?
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Zantie posted:Jumping ahead to note that the Washington state dashboard has this notification: Yup. Franciscan I think.
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Went to the pharmacy tonight to pick up medication for my girlfriend's mom. Pharamacy tech was wheezing, coughing, couldn't catch her breath, and had to ask me for the birthdate six times. I sure am glad she was wearing that surgical mask!
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had a curbside grocery order yesterday and the worker forgot our name three times, had to keep coming out to the car and running back to the store.
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Frosted Flake posted:Look, it’s all pretty simple: FF. You have missed something crucial. Sunny Side Up has issued a correction as of 01:48 on Oct 13, 2022 |
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ahahahahahahahahahahahahahaAAAAAAAhhhhhh posted:RALEIGH, N.C. (WTVD) -- GoTriangle, GoRaleigh and GoDurham will not provide shuttles to take people to and from the NC State Fair in 2022. The public transit companies said they had to get rid of the shuttles this year because there are not enough drivers to staff the routes. But don't worry, we can still find a way to cram a million people into a few city blocks over the course of a week. It'll be fine! No one wants to work anymore, so come relax at the fair!
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tuyop posted:had a curbside grocery order yesterday and the worker forgot our name three times, had to keep coming out to the car and running back to the store. The best part was that she wasn't typing anything in each time she asked me. Just, "What's her birthday?" *stares blankly* "Sorry, what was the month?" *stares blankly* "Can you give me the birthday again?" Real cool that we make people who can barely stay upright come into work.
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ikanreed posted:ahahahahahahahaha
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gottem, M.I.A.
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 babe wake up the new PAPR model got announced
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fosborb posted:gottem, M.I.A. that is a seriously impressive amount of "I am a loving idiot" shoved into a single sentence like that legitimately takes some talent
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fosborb posted:gottem, M.I.A.
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kyrie irving has probably been paid negative 20 million dollars to be a loving moron. I think he should help alex jones pay his bills
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Zugzwang posted:All I wanna do is *cough cough cough cough* and cheese in my lungs
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Morbus posted:Going through their data:
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Zugzwang posted:All I wanna do is *cough cough cough cough* gently caress I'm glad I hit refresh before I hit post lol
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tuyop posted:sorry if this has been done to death, I just want to put a UVC lamp above my front door so I’m even more likely to stop COVIDs from entering. 222nm is the wavelength I want, right? I picked up a dosimeter card months ago, intending to build a box but I have no space for one. Those are all mercury vapor lamps, which emit light primarily at 254 nm and can give you mild severe erythema and mild temporary blindness.
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Zugzwang posted:All I wanna do is *cough cough cough cough* Thread title IMHO
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mildly feeling mildly better the rona is moving down my T-zone, leaving my sinuses behind to create a spiky home in my throat, this time a bit more seriously and not responding as well to NSAIDs. I feel pretty run down but that's because I haven't slept much in the last 72 hours, but still no fever or aches or fatigue really. i'm keeping a meds journal that reads like Hunter S Thompson's daily diary
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Zantie posted:Jumping ahead to note that the Washington state dashboard has this notification: I believe that was St. Michael Medical Center in Silverdale that was hit, but I'm not sure how much more widespread it was than that.
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Ebola Roulette posted:How did public health gently caress this up so bad? the only effort the feds did with monkeypox was "well its only gays getting it so don't get homopox and you'll be fine"
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tuyop posted:I don’t really know how to interpret these product listings though. can anyone tell me if these seem like, safe to be exposed to? None of those are safe to be exposed to. You're after Far UVC which has a wavelength of 222nm. That page shows that those lamps have wavelengths outside of 222nm. You're after a 222 nm excimer lamp with a bandpass or band stop filter. I've priced some recently that would be suitable for your purposes. They're about $1200 USD 
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More effective outreach than the White House. https://twitter.com/mrt/status/1580353042364633090?s=46&t=5BmY--BlB-VCWw2swgNoBA
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tuyop posted:sorry if this has been done to death, I just want to put a UVC lamp above my front door so I’m even more likely to stop COVIDs from entering. 222nm is the wavelength I want, right? I picked up a dosimeter card months ago, intending to build a box but I have no space for one.
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Calibanibal posted:you think 10% of people would eat a beet they found in their mailbox? Americans will blow up their mailbox to ensure they are safe from the non-fried foodstuff.
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Breed beets to be shaped like Punisher skulls. You’ll have the chud market cornered.
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Thoguh posted:More effective outreach than the White House. Kinda funny that Mr. T of all people got so humble in his old age.
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Zugzwang posted:All I wanna do is *cough cough cough cough* lol, and  lmao
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Ebola Roulette posted:How did public health gently caress this up so bad? I think you will find that public health is doing a fantastic job. Remember, the purpose of a system is what it does. Also Frosted Flake, I’m on team therapy. Relationships are supposed to provide safety and security, and a partner who doesn’t just trust the things you say about your body is a time bomb. Hope you feel better soon!
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