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Let's not discount technology advances. A lot has happened in the 5/9 years that heroes ended/started. It's a lot more feasible now to have a SFX heavy show than it was even just half a decade ago.
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Yeah, Heroes became poo poo towards the end of the first season but it's early episodes were genuinely well made and interesting for the time. I mean, they have major chunks spoken in Japanese with subtitles and a cast of a dozen characters, all of different genders and nationalities. It was never great, but it did some stuff that was pretty brave for a network drama back then.
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PriorMarcus posted:Yeah, Heroes became poo poo towards the end of the first season but it's early episodes were genuinely well made and interesting for the time. I mean, they have major chunks spoken in Japanese with subtitles and a cast of a dozen characters, all of different genders and nationalities. No it didn't, it was just copying  in that regard and riding its coattails.
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I was gonna say they were roughly contemporaneous, but apparently Lost predates Heroes by 2 years so you might be right.
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bull3964 posted:Let's not discount technology advances. A lot has happened in the 5/9 years that heroes ended/started. It's a lot more feasible now to have a SFX heavy show than it was even just half a decade ago. Yeah, but Marvel's Agents of SHIELD has Disney bucks behind it and they still manage to do nothing with their "powered" characters that the original Heroes didn't do 100 times better. The main girl's power is "cause the camera to shake." There's also Blue Cartoon Lightning Guy, who gets knocked out before he ever uses his power; and Hedgehog Woman, who doesn't actually have a power besides looking stupid. edit: I forgot when the bad guys assembled a Legion of Doom. The villains consisted of a woman who had nail files screwed to her fingers and a guy who put people to sleep when he talked (ie a power that requires zero special effects). Irish Joe fucked around with this message at 23:53 on Jul 14, 2015 |
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Apropos of nothing, at some point I want to see Adult Swim do a genre spoof series like Children's Hospital or NTSF:SD:SUV:: for supernatural teenagers, or alternatively, teenagers in a post-apocalyptic society who are special because the narrative says that they are.
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Y-Hat posted:supernatural teenagers, or alternatively, teenagers in a post-apocalyptic society who are special because the narrative says that they are. You just described most of their Saturday anime lineup.
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Y-Hat posted:Apropos of nothing, at some point I want to see Adult Swim do a genre spoof series like Children's Hospital or NTSF:SD:SUV:: for supernatural teenagers, or alternatively, teenagers in a post-apocalyptic society who are special because the narrative says that they are. Sadly we've been waiting how many years now for episode 2 of their Pretty Little Liars spoof, "Filthy Sexy Teens". Or did it happen and I just didn't notice?
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Jul 15, 2015 04:18
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PriorMarcus posted:It was never great, but it did some stuff that was pretty brave for a network drama back then. Nominated for the "Best Drama" Emmy, too, the year after Lost won it, I believe. Wheat Loaf fucked around with this message at 04:38 on Jul 15, 2015 |
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Jul 15, 2015 04:25
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Emmy's are just random as hell. Remember when 24 was Best Drama winner?
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In the 10 ceremonies from 2000 to 2009, the Outstanding Drama Series award was monopolised by The West Wing, The Sopranos and to a lesser extent Mad Men, except 2005 and 2006, when it went to Lost and 24. Of course, I think the latter was almost always nominated for the award. I wonder what will stand the test of time. I'm not sure whether all the Steven Bochco or David E. Kelley series that won all the time from about 1980 to 2000 have lasted, but then again, those have always been reruns to me.
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LORD OF BUTT posted:I was gonna say they were roughly contemporaneous, but apparently Lost predates Heroes by 2 years so you might be right. Heroes premiered during the first half of season 3 of , which at the time felt incredibly padded and directionless. It ended up improving in the second half of the season and had a great finale, right as Heroes managed to poo poo the bed.bull3964 posted:Let's not discount technology advances. A lot has happened in the 5/9 years that heroes ended/started. It's a lot more feasible now to have a SFX heavy show than it was even just half a decade ago. Agents of SHIELD is fun but it looks loving cheap as hell. The scenes on top of the carrier in the finale were embarrassing, and that was just basic composition stuff.
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EL BROMANCE posted:Sadly we've been waiting how many years now for episode 2 of their Pretty Little Liars spoof, "Filthy Sexy Teens". Or did it happen and I just didn't notice? It ended up being picked up by some other channel.
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Jul 15, 2015 12:00
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What's the deal with Pretty Little Liars? Like, shouldn't they all have graduated college by now?
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Doctor Spaceman posted:Heroes premiered during the first half of season 3 of That was the fish biscuits wasn't it? That was so bad.
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IRQ posted:That was the fish biscuits wasn't it? That was so bad. Yup. The season started with fish biscuits, and ended with Not Penny's Boat.
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Jul 15, 2015 14:22
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IRQ posted:That was the fish biscuits wasn't it? That was so bad. I just finished a Lost rewatch (skipping only Stranger In A Strange Land) and while the first few S3 episodes did drag a bit they do work better when you don't have to wait eight months to see the rest of the season. It's helped along by a few things people tend to forget about, like Rob McElina--McElin--Mac from Always Sunny showing up as a random Other and Juliet being pretty goddamn awesome. Also gently caress all the ending haters, I had tears in my eyes starting with the final church scene and was full on bawling when Vincent showed up. Jack didn't die alone 
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EL BROMANCE posted:Sadly we've been waiting how many years now for episode 2 of their Pretty Little Liars spoof, "Filthy Sexy Teens". Or did it happen and I just didn't notice? I"m sad that a second episode of this hasn't been made.
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Jul 15, 2015 16:20
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According to Wikipedia that got picked up for an eight episode order by some online TV network a few months ago.
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Jul 15, 2015 16:44
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precision posted:What's the deal with Pretty Little Liars? Like, shouldn't they all have graduated college by now? Each season doesn't equate to a full year. At this point they're all weeks away from graduating high school, so the series has taken place over something like two years.
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Should I watch Wayward Pines?
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ShakeZula posted:Each season doesn't equate to a full year. At this point they're all weeks away from graduating high school, so the series has taken place over something like two years. I meant, aren't the actresses on the show like 25 by now?
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Jul 15, 2015 20:15
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precision posted:I meant, aren't the actresses on the show like 25 by now? Didn't stop Glee
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Plus if they are they were 20 when it started so they were too old then too.
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Jul 15, 2015 20:42
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James Woods Fan posted:Should I watch Wayward Pines? Yeah give it a shot. The entire premise falls apart if you put any semblance of thought into it, but the actors are good and I enjoy the world they've built for the story. They don't hold out the big mysteries for long either, one episode is basically 100% exposition - literally a teacher sitting in class explaining the towns secrets to the children
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James Woods Fan posted:Should I watch Wayward Pines? No.
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precision posted:I meant, aren't the actresses on the show like 25 by now? Teen Wolf had a 31 year old playing 17 for 3 years. She left because Goddamn, there is just no amount of moisturizer that was going to keep that going for much longer.
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Aphrodite posted:Plus if they are they were 20 when it started so they were too old then too. Pretty Old Liars
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Boogaleeboo posted:Teen Wolf had a 31 year old playing 17 for 3 years. She left because Goddamn, there is just no amount of moisturizer that was going to keep that going for much longer. http://www.dorkly.com/post/70251/the-oldest-high-schoolers
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They had to move Cordelia off Buffy to Angel cause they realised there was no way anyone would keep buying Charisma Carpenter as a teenager Not that this stopped them with Nick Brendon 
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James Woods Fan posted:Should I watch Wayward Pines? Do you like goofy, hammy shows with a great cast and a totally ridiculous premise? Go for it. I think it's super fun.
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precision posted:I meant, aren't the actresses on the show like 25 by now? This is how TV and movies work because actual 15 and 16 year olds tend to be highschool theater level actors, for reasons that should be obvious.
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mrking posted:This is how TV and movies work because actual 15 and 16 year olds tend to be highschool theater level actors, for reasons that should be obvious. We're talking about ABC Family and MTV here.
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mrking posted:This is how TV and movies work because actual 15 and 16 year olds tend to be highschool theater level actors, for reasons that should be obvious. They also have more restriction that they have to follow unless their name is John Landis.
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precision posted:I meant, aren't the actresses on the show like 25 by now? One of them will even be 30 this year!
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Sasha Pieterse, who plays Allison on PLL, was the only one of the group who was actually close to her character's age, and was used very sparingly over the first couple of seasons. Not coincidentally, she became a much bigger part of the show once she turned 18.
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Jul 15, 2015 22:44
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Somehow my local cable company couldn't get finalize a deal with the local NBC affiliate. So I am without regular NBC for who knows how long.
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muscles like this? posted:Somehow my local cable company couldn't get finalize a deal with the local NBC affiliate. So I am without regular NBC for who knows how long. It's not like you're missing out.
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Kristen Bell was 25 when she played Veronica Mars and that show kicks rear end, I'd rather they pick good actors and gently caress realism.
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With Season 2 dropping a little under 36 hours from now, Alan Sepinwall does a better job than I ever will explaining why BoJack Hoseman is so goddamn good.
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