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Pierzak
Oct 30, 2010
Someone tell me what's all this about Platinum so I can understand why people are freaking out.

(Well, apart from new Nier, of course.)

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OmegaCake
May 5, 2010

Let's say you and I go back to my room and jack in.

BattleCattle posted:

It's a platinum game, so chip will probably learn it inside out.
...Oh god, who will LP it first?! Maybe...maybe it will be a team effort!?

Night10194
Feb 13, 2012

We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

OmegaCake posted:

...Oh god, who will LP it first?! Maybe...maybe it will be a team effort!?

UNITE MISERY!

Factory Davey
Jan 9, 2010

I am aware of what the hands look like. I did my best. :(

Pierzak posted:

Someone tell me what's all this about Platinum so I can understand why people are freaking out.


they have a track record of very good action games. (Revengeance, Vanquish, Wonderful 101, etc.) so it might actually play like a proper video game.

RareAcumen
Dec 28, 2012




HenryEx posted:

It feels like Yoko Taro is going to greater and greater lengths to pull ridiculous twists and surprise his audience (mostly this thread). He's just extending it into real life now.

He read the thread and went "So some of them think Branch B and C didn't have enough left-field stuff? Time to pull out the big guns."

Yoka Taro is going to disappear for a hundred years and fade from memory, everyone will believe him to be a myth. Then, one day, someone's going to hunt a deer and when they start to process the meat they'll find a video game inside of it.

And it will contain instructions on how to find the rest of the game. You thought waiting for games to be finished so you could download them was annoying? How about having to search the globe for them like they're loving Dragonballs!?

Pierzak posted:

Someone tell me what's all this about Platinum so I can understand why people are freaking out.

(Well, apart from new Nier, of course.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVhyQ_X2-k8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXB-6VVSRhY

RareAcumen fucked around with this message at 22:14 on Jun 16, 2015

dis astranagant
Dec 14, 2006

Pierzak posted:

Someone tell me what's all this about Platinum so I can understand why people are freaking out.

(Well, apart from new Nier, of course.)

Pretty much every decent character action game ever made was either them or previous companies with mostly the same key people.

Tae
Oct 24, 2010

Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!
Before Platinum was platinum, they also made Viewtiful Joe, Okami, and Godhand.

Brainamp
Sep 4, 2011

More Zen than Zenyatta

Pierzak posted:

Someone tell me what's all this about Platinum so I can understand why people are freaking out.

(Well, apart from new Nier, of course.)

http://chipandironicus.com/videos/mgr/
http://chipandironicus.com/videos/101/

Those are just the easiest lps to find. Platinum make really fun to play games.

Wales Grey
Jun 20, 2012

Pierzak posted:

Someone tell me what's all this about Platinum so I can understand why people are freaking out.

(Well, apart from new Nier, of course.)

Platinum Games is a studio founded by the diaspora of Clover Studio. Clover's history of games is Viewtiful Joe, Okami, and Godhand. Platinum's games include titles like Bayonetta, Metal Gear Rising: Revengance, Vanquish, and The Wonderful 101.

Bad Seafood
Dec 10, 2010


If you must blink, do it now.

Pierzak posted:

Someone tell me what's all this about Platinum so I can understand why people are freaking out.
The game portion of his games has always been the bit Taro Yoko struggled with most.

Platinum makes good games.

It's simple math.

W.T. Fits
Apr 21, 2010

Ready to Poyozo Dance all over your face.

Pierzak posted:

Someone tell me what's all this about Platinum so I can understand why people are freaking out.

They were the guys who originally known as Clover Studio and did a couple of games for Capcom you may have heard of:
The Viewtiful Joe series
Okami
God Hand

And their more recent output since forming Platinum consists of:
MadWorld
Infinite Space
Bayonetta
Vanquish
Anarchy Reigns
Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance
The Wonderful 101
Bayonetta 2
The Legend of Korra

And in addition to the upcoming Nier game, are also working on:
Transformers: Devastation
Star Fox Zero
Scalebound

So... yeah. Apparently after Metal Gear Rising, developers are just lining up to throw money at these guys.

BattleCattle
May 11, 2014

Proto-Platinum also made Okami, so I don't know where the "platinum doesn't make good stories" angle's coming from.

ultrafilter
Aug 23, 2007

It's okay if you have any questions.


Now I'm imagining Taro Yoko's God Hand. That would be amazing in all the wrong ways.

Rangpur
Dec 31, 2008

I've been reading through the Nier LP for the first time in conjunction with this one. I didn't think anything from E3 could shock me more than The Last Guardian actually coming out & the Shenmue 3 kickstarter. But that did it. Good Lord.

Mr.Morgenstern
Sep 14, 2012

Aurain posted:

Yoko Taro is working with Platinum Games on a new game!

A new NIER game for PS4

:perfect:

Pesky Splinter
Feb 16, 2011

A worried pug.
My Nier 2 reaction.

BattleCattle
May 11, 2014

same

Pieuvre
Sep 19, 2010

DanielCross posted:

On a scale of Nowe to Yonah, how excited are you guys for Nier 2?

I'm sitting at a solid Caim myself.



I'm at around Arioch in a daycare. :woop:

gtrmp
Sep 29, 2008

Oba-Ma... Oba-Ma! Oba-Ma, aasha deh!
the biggest news of E3 wasn't the FF7 remake or Shenmue 3, it was Metal Nier Rising: Drakengeance

Arsonist Daria
Feb 27, 2011

Requiescat in pace.

I'm sure I'm late but I like laughed myself half to death from this

InfinityComplex
Feb 5, 2011

Nothing better than swinging around a little girl like a flail.

On the money.

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna!!!

Drakengard is a franchise with five games in it.

Supersonic Shine
Oct 13, 2012
This partnership seems to act against Yoko Taro, since his games love to pile on the suffering. He'll need to really crank up the :wtf: if he wants to counteract Platinum's grade-A gameplay.

AradoBalanga
Jan 3, 2013

Supersonic Shine posted:

This partnership seems to act against Yoko Taro, since his games love to pile on the suffering. He'll need to really crank up the :wtf: if he wants to counteract Platinum's grade-A gameplay.
It was mentioned earlier, but recall Platinum's approach to collectables and hidden items. Now recall Drakengard's approach to similar items.

100% completion is going to be absolutely insane.

Bad Seafood
Dec 10, 2010


If you must blink, do it now.
Completing most Taro Yoko games largely comes down to how much time you're willing to invest. Anyone can do it, just the slog gets to most.

With Platinum Games handling the core game, there may actually be a certain amount of skill required.

Chuu
Sep 11, 2004

Grimey Drawer

AradoBalanga posted:

It was mentioned earlier, but recall Platinum's approach to collectables and hidden items. Now recall Drakengard's approach to similar items.


Does Platinum's approach require you to 100% to see large, important chunks of the story?

BattleCattle
May 11, 2014

Supersonic Shine posted:

This partnership seems to act against Yoko Taro, since his games love to pile on the suffering. He'll need to really crank up the :wtf: if he wants to counteract Platinum's grade-A gameplay.

On the contrary. Now he can have weird stories that are unbridled by shame, and gameplay that actually supports it at the same time. It's gonna be great.

The Dark Id
Aug 13, 2005

Why
you
know
I
LOVE
THIS SHIT !!!!
[citation needed]


Episode LXI: This is a Story About a Passive-Aggressive Campaign of Justice



Music: Voidscape



Once upon a time, many moons ago...



There was a beautiful Intoner and a middle-aged man.



The Intoner yearned for a world of peace and happiness, and for evil to be banished forever.

Verse 1: Intoner of Justice
Music: Wilderblades - Battleground



Welcome to Four's Prologue. Our session with the adventures of Four and Decadus will begin back in the outskirts of the Cathedral City.



They've stopped giving us specific dates for these last couple of Prologue DLCs. But seeing as there are still evil lord troops hanging out in even the Cathedral City still, I would assume Four's DLC is set fairly early on in the Intoner conquest campaigns.

I wonder what future Drakengard history is going to refer to the whole bizarre two years or so of time when a bunch of magical girls showed up out of nowhere, murdered all the heads of state taking over the continent in the process, and remained in power for all of about sixteen months before another one of 'em showed up and killed everybody. Or better yet how they'd gloss over the more unfortunate parts in children's history books. What I'm saying is I want an American grade school Thanksgiving type take on Drakengard history.



Kill the Intoner! Kill the disciple! Kill them all!
Hail our fallen leader!



As usual with most of these prologues, Four finds herself up against the same generic soldier men they still have the Proto-Empire emblems that doesn't even make sense gosh remnants of the evil lords' armies. Here consisting of the usual stock of swordsmen, archers, shield guys, and a handful of cannoneers to add some spice.

Four herself fights with combat bracers mostly due to the huge gauntlet she wears to hide her supposed crazy gross fingernails. Performing the assorted kung fu dive kicks and somersaults that compose the combat bracer moveset makes that big floppy oversized pirate jacket draped over her shoulders the entire time kind of ridiculous looking. It's up there with Jill Valentine's sweater tied around her waist through the entirety of a zombie outbreak for clothing accessories that should probably just be taken off at some point.



We're here to eliminate the remaining forces.
Ah. Trash day, is it?
Decadus! Don't ever refer to people as trash!
Apologies, my lady.
We're just here to help One. That's all. We did NOT come here just to fight and kill for no apparent reason. Understand?
Of course, my lady.

We can't stay here any longer.
Our rear guard is depleted...
Stop her! Stop her now!

C'mon Decadus. Have some etiquette. It's called Garbage Day. Sheesh.



This land has been our leader's domain for ages! We don't need some Intoner trying to steal it from us!
Look at the hatred on these soldiers' faces. It's so tragic.
I agree completely. Surrounded by such intense hatred, I... I can't help but... Nnngh!
Decadus! I need you to focus!
A thousand apologies, my lady. All this pain just... Ungh...
I'm trying to be calm and reasonable with these people. It saddens me that they can't see that.
S-She's so violent!
That's an Intoner's true face. Never forget it!
This is some serious poo poo!
Don't lose your nerve... Keep going!
That's an Intoner...? She looks like a kid.
Don't be fooled! Keep going!
What a terrifying woman...
A far sight from our lady's noble presence.



Look Four, you already tried sending Decadus as an ambassador to broker peaceful negotiations with the enemy and the results were... let's say unsatisfactory. Give it a rest.



Look... Look at all the blood on my hands...
It is but proof of your immeasurable skill, Lady Four.
Stop. Our foes are so blinded by rage, they can't hear the wisdom of what I say.
You are indeed acting in self-defense, my lady.
Oh? I suppose you're right. I'm doing it for my dear sister One, after all.



Pictured: Acts of self-defense.





In Four's journey into the designated mid-boss gulag of central Cathedral City she finds herself faced against the odd paring of a titan and a cerberus. Drakengard 3 doesn't like to mix mid-boss enemy types up too often because there is far more of a chance for the framerate to tank if flashy attacks pop off at once it can get a bit chaotic and difficult to manage.



No, I'm fine. If I were Five, I'd probably be leaning on you for support and saying how tired I was in that sleazy voice of hers.
You may turn to me for support as much as you need, my lady.
I'm afraid that's not who I am! Only a fool believes that acting vulnerable and dependent is the way to a man's heart. A true frail maiden receives protection without having to put on an act. Like Two...
Lady Four, if you are weary, please, climb upon my back.
N-No! If I did that, it would look like everything I just said was an act!
Nnngh... Then you refuse to let me... touch you?
Of course, I refuse. I can take care of my own body... unlike Five.
Oh, my lady. The cruel games you play! Oooh...



To help combat a low level character against two mid-bosses at the same time, some helpful suicide bomber imperial troops have been deployed to... Hold on just a second. Huh... cool. Wait up...? Square-Enix and Platinum Games. Sheesh they're doing games for everyone lately. And the producer from NIER? Huh, Squeenix actually remembered NIER exists outside of selling remixed albums. And the Game Designer of REVENGEANCE. Awesome. Kay... and the lead composer from Drakengard 3 and NIER umm... Directed by Yoko Taro?! WAIT IS THAT MUSIC FROM... WAIT THERE IS NO loving WAY THIS IS...



...WWWHWHWHWHWHWHWHHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAT!?!?!?!?!?! loving NIER 2? PLATINUM GAMES? IS THIS EVEN REAL? WHAT?! HOLY loving poo poo!






























So I wandered back two hours later after some manner of bizarre fugue state and this guy was dead on the ground when I came to my senses. I think his head just exploded. Damnedest thing. Ugh. I got ketchup all over my hands. I must have been eating something. And... the walls... And the ceiling. And why does it smell like burning rubber in this room...?



We have to meet Gabriella up ahead.
Gabriella?
Hmm? Did I forget to mention her to you, Decadus?
Indeed. This is the first I've heard of her, my lady. But such is your prerogative! I love it when you pretend I don't even exist... Nnggggah...
Hey, don't make this a thing. I just forgot, okay?



A couple blocks down the road from the previous battle, just past a few dozen more rebels who just cannot see the noble mercy of Four as her spin-kicks cave their skulls in, we come to the final area of the mission. Once more it is the square where we began Zero's prologue (Not to be confused with Zero's Prologue. We haven't gotten to that yet!) as well as where Two used Self-Destruct to perform an entire team wipe on the disciples.

This time around we have a much better meet up in store...



Gabriella! Unlike the her last few brief single mission appearances with the other Intoner sisters, One's sassy dragon buddy will be accompanying Four for the entirety of her prequel chapter. So look forward to that.



I'm a busy dragon--I haven't got all day, you know. Cripes!
My apologies. I was giving a eulogy for those who perished in this senseless battle.
Um... Aren't you the one who caused them to perish in the first place? The only senseless thing here is you and your crazy excuses!
I didn't WANT to kill them! I had to... for One.
Blah blah blah blah whatevs.

Retreat! We need to retreat! Give the order sir!
Gaaaah! Ruuun! We can't wait for this!
Stay where you are! Don't let our leader's killer get away!
Block her escape route! Now!
Our formation is faltering!
Keep your distance... Stay back!





There are still fifty soldiers lingering in the square upon our arrival. We cannot have that. It just wouldn't do. Four will be sure to pen a lovely, handwritten obituary for each and every one of them to go along with what remains can be scooped into a shoebox when the dust settles.



We really shouldn't be using all these dangerous weapons against each other. Maybe if we all had whips or something, things would calm down.
Wh-Whips? With all that... flailing... And then we'd lick the raw wounds with our eager tongues... Unnngh!
Stop that at once! I won't abide such vulgarity. I simply want to keep casualties to a minimum.
Whips... Ohhh, whips... Unnnaghhh...
Decadus! Stop thinking about whips this instant!
You deny me even the pleasure of my own thoughts? Thank you, my lady!





A game with combat entirely utilizing realistic whip based combat would probably be pretty hosed up. Let's just stick to beating men to death with our bare hands for the time being. Much more humane this way really.





And with the last fifty stragglers of evil lord forces dealt with, all in order to lay the foundation for the hundreds more to die in this square at future dates, we bring the first mission of Four's Prologue to a close.







Video: Four's Prologue Verse 1 Highlight Reel




Four Concept Art

Blastinus
Feb 28, 2010

Time to try my luck
:rolldice:
Crap.
My prediction is that they'll bring in the Platinum rating system and then force you to get Pure Platinum in order to unlock certain weapons.

And of course you'll have to buy the dodge and parry moves. That's just a given with Platinum games.

e: It's hard to see how Four didn't notice Decadus's particular character trait, especially considering the whips line. Is she naive or just choosing to ignore it as hard as she can?

Blastinus fucked around with this message at 23:34 on Jun 16, 2015

Kay Kessler
May 9, 2013

It's so fitting for Four's DLC to be overshadowed by the announcement of Nier 2. Middle Child Syndrome strikes again. :allears:

Kaislioc
Feb 14, 2008

The Dark Id posted:

We're just here to help One. That's all. We did NOT come here just to fight and kill for no apparent reason. Understand?

Oh? I suppose you're right. I'm doing it for my dear sister One, after all.

I didn't WANT to kill them! I had to... for One.

If One jumped off a cliff, would you follow her? :colbert:

The Dark Id posted:

Gabriella! Unlike the her last few brief single mission appearances with the other Intoner sisters, One's sassy dragon buddy will be accompanying Four for the entirety of her prequel chapter. So look forward to that.

:allears:

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna!!!

How long til Id gets bought an Emil Taro avatar?

"You're gonna love THIS poo poo!"

Derek Barona
Dec 8, 2009

WHO'S YOUR FRIEND?!

The Dark Id posted:

Blah blah blah blah whatevs.

Gabriella is just the best. :allears:

TurnipFritter
Apr 21, 2010
10,000 POSTS ON TALKING TIME

quote:


*checks Utahime Five*
Nope.

TurnipFritter fucked around with this message at 23:43 on Jun 16, 2015

DeafNote
Jun 4, 2014

Only Happy When It Rains
Sounds like Four wants none of the blame and responsibility but all of the praise

Night10194
Feb 13, 2012

We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

DeafNote posted:

Sounds like Four wants none of the blame and responsibility but all of the praise

She's a very common trope: The character who is going to slaughter dozens of mooks but will pause for a big dramatic show of how sorry she is for doing it or agonize over killing the one named villain later.

Crigit
Sep 6, 2011

I'll show you my naval if you show me yours.
Let's get naut'y.

Kaislioc posted:

If One jumped off a cliff, would you follow her? :colbert:

Whenever people ask that question I always say yes. My friends are all pretty smart, responsible people. If they were all jumping off a cliff, I'd assume they had knowledge of some urgent reason not to be on the drat cliff anymore and follow suit.

Crigit fucked around with this message at 23:52 on Jun 16, 2015

HGH
Dec 20, 2011
Are you telling me Super Castlevania 4's realistic whip flailing is hosed up? Nonsense!

Also maybe it's just the writing coupled with the performance but almost everything Four says sounds like a weird act of sorts. "I didn't WANT to kill them" and so on. Especially the whole self-defence thing. It makes it far more believable that she'd have some sort of common explosive temper issues (hating Five aside) than her short story did.
She enjoys all the killing doesn't she.

HGH fucked around with this message at 23:48 on Jun 16, 2015

Shei-kun
Dec 2, 2011

Screw you, physics!
The simple news that we have Gabriella for the entire DLC is enough to let me know why it is everyone's favorite. :allears:

I hope there's more reasons for that, too. Also, looking forward to the inevitable reveal of Four being horrible.

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Fabulousvillain
May 2, 2015
Even with Gabriella being a huge part of Four's DLC it will be overshadowed by the Nierwhatever announcement for about a week, no wonder she has an inferiority complex. :smith:

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