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Ralph Hurley
Aug 3, 2009

:barf::sweep::zoid:



I will forever associate Fugazi with my sixteenth birthday when I had just bought myself their first EP on cassette and popped it in the car stereo and drove away legally on my own for the first time blasting WAITING ROOM. To me that song means enjoying the freedom that comes with a drivers license.

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Serious Party Gods
Apr 2, 2009

Old country I listen to when I'm in the desert:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5FTB9tRmwA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1429tQDnJSM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ECkHSYF2RE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnEMOQTh27s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7aDdiWGA8c

Edit, one more:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HR1pBKjV1rI

Serious Party Gods fucked around with this message at 07:00 on Aug 2, 2020

Babylon Astronaut
Apr 19, 2012

Ralph Hurley posted:

I will forever associate Fugazi with my sixteenth birthday when I had just bought myself their first EP on cassette and popped it in the car stereo and drove away legally on my own for the first time blasting WAITING ROOM. To me that song means enjoying the freedom that comes with a drivers license.
Their first Ep, which now is part of 13 songs, is a top 10 post-hardcore album no matter how you slice it. There really isn't a bigger litmus test beyond Naked Raygun for if you like the genre at all. But if 13 songs, Pink Flag, and Understand? don't tickle your pickle, you just don't dig the sub-genre.

Serious Party Gods
Apr 2, 2009

Babylon Astronaut posted:

Their first Ep, which now is part of 13 songs, is a top 10 post-hardcore album no matter how you slice it. There really isn't a bigger litmus test beyond Naked Raygun for if you like the genre at all. But if 13 songs, Pink Flag, and Understand? don't tickle your pickle, you just don't dig the sub-genre.

You're right? However, I'll refrain from making semi-hater posts on other folks' beloved bands. Love u bbs.

Serious Party Gods fucked around with this message at 07:04 on Aug 2, 2020

Babylon Astronaut
Apr 19, 2012
I have no ego. What's cracking? Do you hate Steve Albini or something? Like I personally have dunked on Fugazi, a lot, because I'm not straight edge in the slightest and I don't know... but they're really good unfortunately.

Gutter Phoenix
Jul 23, 2013

I preferred your last avatar, so I put it back. My apologies to the pedo who purchased your last one (it's always projection).
Mission of Burma

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sg7Q_Z7t1WY

Serious Party Gods
Apr 2, 2009

LOL - TBF, I love Naked Raygun "Understand" and loving Sunny Day Real Estate, so yeah.. it's a land of contrasts.

Babylon Astronaut
Apr 19, 2012
Oh man, speaking of talking poo poo on people's idols.. Back in the before times when we could smoke indoors in theaters, Captain Sensible told a 15 year old me to quit smoking and I laughed in his face because I loving hated the damned. Every time I saw them, they played every goddamn song in their catalogue and made the ticket cost 20 dollars more than it should. I worked with a dude who would later become a friend of mine going to shows and whatnot who would be come appalled as he is the literal founder of their fan-club and runs their web site. Thank god he made me actually listen to Damned damned damned and machine gun etiquette or I would have thought he was insane. Completely the opposite of fugazi.

Like punk, means "to poo poo on" more or less.

Serious Party Gods posted:

LOL - TBF, I love Naked Raygun "Understand" and loving Sunny Day Real Estate, so yeah.. it's a land of contrasts.
I was incredibly harsh on emo, despite really liking lifetime and their ilk.

Babylon Astronaut fucked around with this message at 07:17 on Aug 2, 2020

Ralph Hurley
Aug 3, 2009

:barf::sweep::zoid:



I saw Fugazi once and Guy was holding his stomach and looking half dead and maybe puked. He mumbled something about being sick but dude loving powered through it and they put on an amazing show. Also Ian stopped a song to berate some rear end in a top hat jock dude who was beating on people in the pit and the rear end in a top hat left. Superhero poo poo.

DapperDraculaDeer
Aug 4, 2007

Shut up, Nick! You're not Twilight.

Babylon Astronaut posted:

Their first Ep, which now is part of 13 songs, is a top 10 post-hardcore album no matter how you slice it. There really isn't a bigger litmus test beyond Naked Raygun for if you like the genre at all. But if 13 songs, Pink Flag, and Understand? don't tickle your pickle, you just don't dig the sub-genre.

There are people out there that dont like Naked Raygun? How is that posible?

Also, Fuggazi is a band I never could get into even though I dig their whole heavy emphasis on DIY and accessibility. Every album of theirs Ive listened to really does sound like it was recorded at a bus stop or some poo poo. I suppose thats a big part of why they are considered a band you need to see live.

Serious Party Gods
Apr 2, 2009

Minneapolis' oldest punk, Bob Murderer, from the band "The Murderers". Right in the time/place pocket for me. The last time I saw this guy he was trying to sell a jean jacket that he was carrying in a paper bag.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfhAXC5N8Fg

Serious Party Gods
Apr 2, 2009

DapperDraculaDeer posted:

I dig their whole heavy emphasis on DIY and accessibility.

Totally.

Babylon Astronaut
Apr 19, 2012
I mean, these doofuses were doing mid-west basement shows in the early 2000's. How can you hate them?

Gutter Phoenix
Jul 23, 2013

I preferred your last avatar, so I put it back. My apologies to the pedo who purchased your last one (it's always projection).

Serious Party Gods posted:

Old country I listen to when I'm in the desert:

Edit, one more:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HR1pBKjV1rI

Those are all great, but I had to look this one up:

https://www.last.fm/music/Troy+Hess/+wiki

Babylon Astronaut
Apr 19, 2012

DapperDraculaDeer posted:

There are people out there that dont like Naked Raygun? How is that posible?
That's what I'm saying. If you don't like Naked Raygun, you just don't like post-hardcore in any form. It's like gravity. Even if Hum and Shiner put out an album in the same year and you were an indie rock rear end in a top hat, you'd love some Naked Raygun.

Serious Party Gods
Apr 2, 2009

I DON'T HATE FUGAZI! I JUST DIDN'T GET IT!

Babylon Astronaut
Apr 19, 2012
This should make all the hardcore kids smile. My god I love the Kid Dynamite version, and this cover brings all the feels. https://youtu.be/MZ4EgaLSGEo

Serious Party Gods
Apr 2, 2009

Gutter Phoenix posted:

Those are all great, but I had to look this one up:

https://www.last.fm/music/Troy+Hess/+wiki

Check out the "Twisted Tales From The Vinyl Wastelands" series of comps! Lots of good stuff and pretty widely available.

Serious Party Gods
Apr 2, 2009

Babylon Astronaut posted:

This should make all the hardcore kids smile. My god I love the Kid Dynamite version, and this cover brings all the feels. https://youtu.be/MZ4EgaLSGEo

Andy, don't read this.

-

Laura, hello

DapperDraculaDeer
Aug 4, 2007

Shut up, Nick! You're not Twilight.
Have we talked about Minutemen in a while? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2BtgmawhCw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbBeomD20n4

I love these guys. I know they are technically post-punk but finding out about their music is what first got me interested in punk and all the various adjacent genres of music. Theyre still one of my favorite bands. Considering how so many bands from that era toured Im surprised more musicians didnt die in motor vehicle accidents like happened to D Boon.

Gutter Phoenix
Jul 23, 2013

I preferred your last avatar, so I put it back. My apologies to the pedo who purchased your last one (it's always projection).

DapperDraculaDeer posted:

Have we talked about Minutemen in a while?

I love these guys. I know they are technically post-punk but finding out about their music is what first got me interested in punk and all the various adjacent genres of music. Theyre still one of my favorite bands. Considering how so many bands from that era toured Im surprised more musicians didnt die in motor vehicle accidents like happened to D Boon.

D Boon wasn't even on tour. He was sleeping in the back of a van while his girlfriend drove and she fell asleep at the wheel. Such a shame.

I know the singer of Rhino 39 died in a car wreck. And the singer of Butt Trumpet was killed by a drunk driver. And almost all of the band The Exploding Hearts died in a van crash on tour. And Exene's sister on the way to an X show. Certainly more I'm not thinking of.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zB0yGPQud_g

Gutter Phoenix
Jul 23, 2013

I preferred your last avatar, so I put it back. My apologies to the pedo who purchased your last one (it's always projection).

Serious Party Gods posted:

Check out the "Twisted Tales From The Vinyl Wastelands" series of comps! Lots of good stuff and pretty widely available.

Thanks for the tip!

prayer group
May 31, 2011

$#$%^&@@*!!!
DEVO came up a couple pages ago and I want to make sure everyone has heard Ultracore. It's an unofficial fan comp of early poo poo that has some of their best rare tracks on it. Most notable IMO is "Do-Do", urgent power pop dripping with their usual sarcasm. Alan Myers is a loving monster on the drums here as usual, he's so underrated. If you're used to DEVO being a new-wave synth-heavy band this'll be especially interesting for you. Link below is timecoded for this track, but you should listen to this whole thing, there's some great unreleased stuff as well as demos of first-album cuts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1tXTF_5keE&t=2040s

Ralph Hurley
Aug 3, 2009

:barf::sweep::zoid:



DapperDraculaDeer posted:

Have we talked about Minutemen in a while? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2BtgmawhCw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbBeomD20n4

I love these guys. I know they are technically post-punk but finding out about their music is what first got me interested in punk and all the various adjacent genres of music. Theyre still one of my favorite bands. Considering how so many bands from that era toured Im surprised more musicians didnt die in motor vehicle accidents like happened to D Boon.


It’s hard to put into words why I love the minutemen so much. I also heard them when I first was getting into punk and it was everything I wanted to hear. There was a certain dissonance to their sound combined with tight rhythm that clicked with me, and the way they did short compositions instead of long songs was so satisfying. It was smart and creative and from the heart. Double Nickels On The Dime is a masterpiece.

This one is my favorite. I think the lyrics are just a Mike Watt journal entry he wrote while watching Merv Griffin interview Sophia Loren on his show one night.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyzjXCpRVwo

Edit: George Hurley was my drumming hero in high school, and we might in fact be related.

Ralph Hurley fucked around with this message at 09:55 on Aug 2, 2020

Ralph Hurley
Aug 3, 2009

:barf::sweep::zoid:



:dance:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUfKU2N3-yw

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



Serious Party Gods posted:

I don't know man, I guess it feels so premeditated and possibly .. boring? You're right, it's not bad - but it came at a time when everything was becoming quite toothless and I resent it. I'm not a huge fan of late-stage East Coast stuff or a "post-hardcore" guy so take it with a grain of salt.

(Plus I just wanted to make a "$5 AA show" joke.)

I get it. You and I are the caveman kind, we like our music to be straightforward, to hit you in the face with a sledgehammer, and Fugazi is too meandering and circumspect to really get us pumped. We're True Punks. Compared to all the punk and hardcore bands that started making garbage-tier heavy metal in their later careers, they're a pretty good band, though. I have to respect them both musically and in terms of attitude.

I think if I'd been 16 in 1989 and bought 13 songs, I would have listened to it a lot and loved it.

caleb
Jul 17, 2004
...rough day at the orifice.
I don't get how you can be completely on either end of the spectrum and not just get bored personally. That's why this loosely defined art form is cool because you have Bad Brains and Bad Seeds and it's all one thing but it's kind of not.

I will never understand people who like only listen to Gorilla Biscuits and Ten Yard Fight and don't understand Pissed Jeans or Hot Snakes or whatever. It seems more like an aesthetic choice to "be into counter culture music" and it comes off as gross to me I guess is what I am saying.

caleb fucked around with this message at 15:43 on Aug 2, 2020

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



I've never even heard of Pissed Jeans or Hot Snakes. I probably wouldn't be into them.

If I get bored with Ten Yard Fight (which I don't think are all that fantastic to begin with, weird American sports band that sounds a bit generic) I'll listen to some Oi!, or power pop, or ska, or ska-punk, or post-punk, maybe a different genre altogether. As I said about ska earlier, in a post similar to yours, I will never understand people who like punk but are turned off as soon as it includes some upstrokes and/or horns. There's so much incredible ska-influenced stuff out there, spanning decades, and people reject it just because they don't like the typical third wave sound from 1996.

The thing is that if a person doesn't like ska, or post-hardcore, or anything else, that's fine. Yes, you should try to move around in your spectrum of what you think is good music, but that spectrum is going to be different for everyone.

caleb
Jul 17, 2004
...rough day at the orifice.
Maybe some people think it's funny watching a skinny man drop his Rickenbacker on the ground and hang upside-down in a basketball hoop and some other people just want to hear barre cords and yelling and I should stop being such an elitist nerd maybe

Gutter Phoenix
Jul 23, 2013

I preferred your last avatar, so I put it back. My apologies to the pedo who purchased your last one (it's always projection).

prayer group posted:

DEVO came up a couple pages ago and I want to make sure everyone has heard Ultracore. It's an unofficial fan comp of early poo poo that has some of their best rare tracks on it. Most notable IMO is "Do-Do", urgent power pop dripping with their usual sarcasm. Alan Myers is a loving monster on the drums here as usual, he's so underrated. If you're used to DEVO being a new-wave synth-heavy band this'll be especially interesting for you. Link below is timecoded for this track, but you should listen to this whole thing, there's some great unreleased stuff as well as demos of first-album cuts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1tXTF_5keE&t=2040s

Early DEVO is so goddamn weird and awesome. They started (in some form) in, like, 1972. Way ahead of their time.

When they got Alan Myers in the mid 70's though, that's when it came together. He was so underrated. He was a machine, but still had the groove, you know? Late 70's/ early 80's DEVO is untouchable. There is still nothing like it.

Alan Myers and Bob 2, R.I.P.


Speaking of the beat, I watched the new Go-Go's documentary last night, and highly recommend it.

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



caleb posted:

Maybe some people think it's funny watching a skinny man drop his Rickenbacker on the ground and hang upside-down in a basketball hoop and some other people just want to hear barre cords and yelling and I should stop being such an elitist nerd maybe

Yeah this is the GBS punk thread, but there is a place for elitist nerds who only talk about bands with names like The Cat Scratches The Door Most Unwittingly, it's called NMD:

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2673084

Over here we fall asleep of boredom if a song lasts for more than two minutes, and this is our motto:

caleb
Jul 17, 2004
...rough day at the orifice.
But I don't want to exclusively talk about Jeff Rosenstock all day. What a conundrum.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywtZRRYVsNg

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



Occasionally they also mention Touché Amoré or Jawbreaker

That's it, though, so you'd better like those three bands.

caleb
Jul 17, 2004
...rough day at the orifice.
Blake whining about poo poo isn't a strong selling point.

prayer group
May 31, 2011

$#$%^&@@*!!!
Yeah dude better watch out for those elitist nerds who only like complex, mathematical post-punk such as *checks notes* Jawbreaker.

caleb
Jul 17, 2004
...rough day at the orifice.
*furiously fidgeting with my metronome and abacus while blasting boat dreamz* :sweatdrop:

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



I've never listened to Jawbreaker in my life, I should get around to it. I have no idea what they sound like. Post some suggestions. Boat Dreamz?

caleb
Jul 17, 2004
...rough day at the orifice.
It is the first song on 24hr revenge therapy which is a good album if you like Nirvana and stuff. It's not Orange Rhyming Dictionary depressing but it's not a fun times album.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aogeXRqhETg

Snowy
Oct 6, 2010

A man whose blood
Is very snow-broth;
One who never feels
The wanton stings and
Motions of the sense




Man those are some fancy chords, what is that, classical music? I pretty much just hammer at power chords on the E string :v:

Thanks for the link, I’ve seen that thread there but never really checked it out for no good reason.

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Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



It's good if you're into emo and (post-)hardcore. I'm just joking around, I have no problem with that thread.

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