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Comrade Fakename posted:As much as I’m really hyped for this game, I do wonder how real of a criticism of capitalism it can be, considering that as an RPG, inevitably the numbers will go up. By gameplay necessity you will end up bootstrapping your way up to the higher echelons of society. comrade the underclass must seize the power of the upper classes in order to dismantle it all the game needs at the end is a 'gently caress it all' option
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Crappy Jack posted:https://playgwent.com/en/news/18951/gwent-homecoming-see-whats-next-for-gwent gently caress that sounds nice
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:Here's the thing though, these complaints over animation literally don't matter to the combat system at all. You can play the game on the hardest difficulty without worrying in the slightest about getting hit errantly because of this poo poo. The game's loving easy very quickly and only even remotely difficult if you house rule stuff for yourself. i'm not talking about animation, they are different attacks. You don't have control over which attack he does. Thats bad i didn't say it was hard either, the combat is functional its just the basic sword attacks are fundamentally flawed in the way i described
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Subjunctive posted:It’s not just the demo, they’ve said explicitly that those are the 3 PC roles. My bad. That does suck.
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:The game's loving easy very quickly and only even remotely difficult if you house rule stuff for yourself. well yes that's exactly what one of the most common complaints is. the combat is only interesting if you sort of handicap yourself especially because geralt becomes a nearly undefeatalbe god in most encounters due to the way the leveling works
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Video Game Aspie posted:So, apparently the E3 floor demo only has 3 combat roles (Netrunner, Techie, Solo) instead of the 12 that the tabletop has. I'm beginning to think this is just going to be just a very combat centric first person shooter and I'm not gonna be able to make Spider Jerusalem or Johnny Silverhand. 5 years of hype down the drain I'd love for RPGs to move away from combat-centric gameplay personally but I don't think it's gonna happen.
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BULBASAUR posted:comrade the underclass must seize the power of the upper classes in order to dismantle it Ah, the Vampire Bloodlines Ending
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Ragg posted:I'd love for RPGs to move away from combat-centric gameplay personally but I don't think it's gonna happen. Yeah RPGs where you could truly beat the game without having to be a combat class would be a dream
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HORMELCHILI posted:Yeah RPGs where you could truly beat the game without having to be a combat class would be a dream Deus Ex?
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HORMELCHILI posted:Yeah RPGs where you could truly beat the game without having to be a combat class would be a dream Age of Decadence
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:Ah, the Vampire Bloodlines Ending One of my favorite aspects about that game's ending is that the same events happen no matter what, it's just a matter of where your character stands. There's enough distance between those points that you get different endings from it.
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GrossMurpel posted:Age of Decadence Yuup.
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Ah man but I wanted to be a rockerboy Edit: death stranding is supposedly moving away from combat as a central theme in gameplay and it's being shut on as a pretencious walking simulator so eh
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I've looked at that before it seemed interesting, didn't know you could be non combat. I'll definitely pick that up
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I think they've said that there are elements of the other classes you can incorporate into your build.
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HORMELCHILI posted:I've looked at that before it seemed interesting, didn't know you could be non combat. I'll definitely pick that up Beware, it is of a rather grodnardy nature. Not for everyone.
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Crappy Jack posted:https://playgwent.com/en/news/18951/gwent-homecoming-see-whats-next-for-gwent They won't get it right because Gwent's core gameplay of playing cards one at a time and seeing who has the most points at the end doesn't lead to interesting gameplay.
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I dont care about stand alone gwent but i totally will play it once they release story mode
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Waffleman_ posted:I think they've said that there are elements of the other classes you can incorporate into your build. This shouldn't really surprise anyone. Witcher always had 3 full combat trees (swords, magic, alchemy) and just about the only non-combat skill was the ability to force trick people in dialog occasionally. CDPR has always been on the "have NPCs react based on the player's words and actions, don't make them roll charisma/speech checks constantly" side of RPG design. Sindai fucked around with this message at 22:22 on Jun 14, 2018 |
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W3's strengths (and CDPR's in general) are in storytelling and exploration. They've never really prioritised deep combat or role playing. If you're expecting a recreation of the tabletop game you might want to brace yourself for disappointment.
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Steve2911 posted:If you're expecting a recreation of the tabletop game you might want to brace yourself for disappointment. well they already cut most of these expectations considering you pretty much only play 3 of the roles
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I would assume that they have a slightly different a role-playing philosophy compared to The Witcher, considering that they have added character customization and choosing your character's backstory.
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:I would assume that they have a slightly different a role-playing philosophy compared to The Witcher, considering that they have added character customization and choosing your character's backstory. Oh for sure, but I can't see them going to the extremes people are expecting.
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I'm assuming it will work like all the GTA games where you start in the cyberghetto and work your way up to working for the megacorps.
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nickmeister posted:Ah man but I wanted to be a rockerboy I think the issue cdpr is facing is they want to give more customization, which I think is good, but they do not want to stray too far from having a protagonist that that player guides. They have an idea of who V is, regardless of gender, and they are picking the classes that they feel let's the player have good variety of choices without falling into the Bethesda trap of having such variable player characters that all of the dialogue feels generic and boring. Being a rockerboy is dope but might just be hard to integrate into the story they want to tell.
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GrossMurpel posted:Age of Decadence Mmm, yes, my first steam refund
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WoodrowSkillson posted:I think the issue cdpr is facing is they want to give more customization, which I think is good, but they do not want to stray too far from having a protagonist that that player guides. They have an idea of who V is, regardless of gender, and they are picking the classes that they feel let's the player have good variety of choices without falling into the Bethesda trap of having such variable player characters that all of the dialogue feels generic and boring. Being a rockerboy is dope but might just be hard to integrate into the story they want to tell. They might expand classes in future dlc too. It would make sense.
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If history has taught us anything about video games, it's that at this rate there's no way this game is going to live up to the hype generated by all the positive and gushing press from the E3 demo. There will be hundreds of things casuals are expecting from it that it simply won't be able to fulfill.
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AndyElusive posted:If history has taught us anything about video games, it's that at this rate there's no way this game is going to live up to the hype generated by all the positive and gushing press from the E3 demo. my personal belief is it will be the new deus ex type RPG with tons of depth and poo poo.
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I think it'll be a real slam dunk!!!!
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AndyElusive posted:If history has taught us anything about video games, it's that at this rate there's no way this game is going to live up to the hype generated by all the positive and gushing press from the E3 demo. The Witcher 3 was incredible and pretty much justified all the hype leading up to it. (Combat could be stronger but nothing is perfect). If people doesn't forget that, at the end of the day, CP2077 is still a videogame with real limitations they will be fine. Only those who thinks this will be GTA 6 for some reason will be dissapointed.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:my personal belief is it will be the new deus ex type RPG with tons of depth and poo poo. This is my hope, which I don't think too far fetched. On the note of Deus Ex, after Human Revolution (which I enjoyed) is it worth playing the other one to tide me over? I seem to remember being turned off by the fact that it had microtransactions or something.
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Claes Oldenburger posted:On the note of Deus Ex, after Human Revolution (which I enjoyed) is it worth playing the other one to tide me over? I seem to remember being turned off by the fact that it had microtransactions or something. It's like 1/3 of an okay game. They decided to split the story into several games except the other part never started development.
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After taking a five month tolerance break, I decided to end it tonight. I also started playing the Witcher 3 for the first time, amazing!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rop6Z70u_4 Mike don't do this to me
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Claes Oldenburger posted:This is my hope, which I don't think too far fetched. It does stealth the same way DXHR did, which was a huge plus in my book because DXHR is a good stealth game.
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I think you can count on a 2020 release. It's too good to resist. Deus Ex HR does a good job of aping the original's gameplay, but the writing is just awful. Lazy speculation on the future from the vantage point of 2013 or whenever it was released. No characters act like human beings. The world doesn't make sense as a prequel. Augmentation is elevated to a crazy level of prominence as a social issue. Basically everything in the Ross' Game Dungeon review is on point. Mankind Divided was more of the same which turned me off even though I got it for free. Just play the original Deus Ex with mods. Or Ruiner. MeatwadIsGod fucked around with this message at 03:35 on Jun 15, 2018 |
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