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Hodgepodge posted:e: a surviving edit: What the gently caress is that explosion rofl
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Grendels Dad posted:What the gently caress is that explosion rofl its an explosion of dmca protection sadly there was collateral damage
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Dec 27, 2020 11:37
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I liked the scene where Lord was telling people to make wishes and it cut to Martha Kent in Kansas and she was like "I wish I had a son" and then it showed Kal El's ship crashing. And Pa Kent said "I wish this dog lives the rest of my life"
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Dec 27, 2020 13:26
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I hope the wishing stone has the shape of a monkey's paw with only the middle finger extended.
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Dec 27, 2020 15:31
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I really loving hated that the stone was literally just in a mall and then when they found it it had loving instructions that Diana just reads in the first like what 15-20 minutes of this movie. So loving stupid
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Dec 27, 2020 16:00
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In the end Max Lord was just a less horny version of Jim Carrey's RiddlerMall Santa Metis posted:my criticism is it should have been gayer
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Dec 27, 2020 16:32
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There are a lot of problems with this movie, but so many of the complaints i've seen from skimming this thread are just dumb nitpicks. LikeThe REAL Goobusters posted:I really loving hated that the stone was literally just in a mall and then when they found it it had loving instructions that Diana just reads in the first like what 15-20 minutes of this movie. So loving stupid Come on, having strange inscriptions on mystical artifacts that cryptically half-explains what it does is practically a trope! Or the dude who thought Barbara wished to become a furry just because Diana had some cool shoes.  Having said that, boy did this film make some interesting choices. The Egypt sequence seemed entirely unnecessary , Maxwell Lord is given way too much screentime, and alot of that is fat that could be trimmed, Barbara needed more screentime, some of the choices had unfortunate implications (egypt, steve bodyjacking someone), Lords redemption arc should have been given to barbara, everyone apparently just collectively memoryholing the weird inexplicable wishing phenomenon that happened, the floaty action scenes... It just seems like a sloppy film Having said that, I did enjoy the score, and the little nod to Linda Carter. I also enjoyed Steve and Diana working together, though I do wish they'd leaned on Diana needing to be more creative to compensate for being weak. Wildly uneven movie, all in all
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Dec 27, 2020 17:48
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Mall Santa Metis posted:my criticism is it should have been gayer also this
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I wonder if the same people who are lolling over “Wonder Woman raping a dude” are the same ones who got mad when Captain America’s rapist scenario at the end of Endgame was pointed out.
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Dec 27, 2020 18:18
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ruddiger posted:I wonder if the same people who are lolling over “Wonder Woman raping a dude” are the same ones who got mad when Captain America’s rapist scenario at the end of Endgame was pointed out. This doesn't make any sense though and is only a concern if you assume Captain America told her absolutely nothing when there's no reason to assume he lied about himself. It requires a pretty big assumption about a scene that isn't present in the film while the complaints about that aspect of Wonder Woman are all right there and present in the movie. WW84 clearly shows that both characters are well aware that Trevor is in another guy's body before they have sex.
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Dec 27, 2020 18:49
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So Cap tells her and she willingly has sex with him knowing her version of Cap is still sitting in a block of ice. This isn’t a flattering scenario for either of them.
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Dec 27, 2020 18:58
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ruddiger posted:So Cap tells her and she willingly has sex with him knowing her version of Cap is still sitting in a block of ice. Also that the job she is working at and will for the next several decades has been infiltrated by HYDRA and that she can't do anything about it if she wants to protect the future. Also that their mutual friend is being brainwashed and tortured by HYDRA and they similarly can't do anything about it. Also that Cap kissed her niece, and then Cap presumably interacts with this niece when she is a child. Mostly tho it's just a thought exercise about how little the Endgame scenario was thought through, and how many weird cans of worms it opens. The WW84 scenario is weird in a different way since it all plays out on screen and everyone just kind of willfully ignores it (FWIW my friends were more concerned with what happened to this other guy's soul, and whether Diana basically killed this guy with her wish but was unbothered by it)
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Dec 27, 2020 19:04
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Yeah, the MCU is plagued with “don’t think about it” materialism and it’s ideology reflects as such. I can’t speak for WW84 since I haven’t seen it and don’t really care to. I do hope Zack Snyder makes another Teen Titans Go movie tho, the last one was pretty great.
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Dec 27, 2020 19:09
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ruddiger posted:So Cap tells her and she willingly has sex with him knowing her version of Cap is still sitting in a block of ice. Yeah, it's still a really poorly thought out ending and it really shows how little thought the Russo's gave to the whole thing.
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Dec 27, 2020 19:11
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Yea I mean making the Endgame thing about “rape” made it easy to just dismiss and say anyone talking about it was a creep, but the situation is still fraught with a bunch of awkward questions
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Dec 27, 2020 19:25
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Woah woah woah. The MCU is plagued with idealism. Materialism is the good one!
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About 15 minutes into WW84 and this movie definitely was not made for my demographic, I’m totally fine with that. At least we don’t have to wonder what the movie would look like if it was in color, because it sure as poo poo is. Did the original WW have the folks on the island in spandex? I thought they were all in fairly realistic animal skins like leather. Maybe that was just JL.
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Dec 27, 2020 22:11
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McCloud posted:There are a lot of problems with this movie, but so many of the complaints i've seen from skimming this thread are just dumb nitpicks. Like I mean I've posted more about the the real film problems in the other thread. There's like multiple discussions going on. But after everything that was bad about it, of course I'm going to nitpick. There are wayyyy too many things to nitpick and they all add up. To say one positive thing in the movie: I enjoyed the fight scene in the White House. It was fun and I wish there was more of that but alas.
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Dec 27, 2020 22:42
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Crosspost from the Snyderdome Discord: https://vimeo.com/495033481 The use of the Sunshine track during that scene bothered me enough to re-score it using Diana's victory theme from the end of the first film.
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Dec 27, 2020 22:58
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Hodgepodge posted:her service in the IDF is kind of relevant considering the film recreates the murder of four kids by the IDF, except she's the good guy and saves them. As awful as the film’s politics assuredly are, this particular complaint is some weird logic where it’s bad that the Greek character saves Egyptian kids because it distracts from the reality of brutal Palestinian child death at the hands of Israel.
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Dec 28, 2020 03:41
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:As awful as the film’s politics assuredly are, this particular complaint is some weird logic where it’s bad that the Greek character saves Egyptian kids because it distracts from the reality of brutal Palestinian child death at the hands of Israel. The Greek character is played by an israeli who supported the idf bombings in 2014 in the Gaza Strip that killed 4 kids playing soccer on a road. hope this helps Chief
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Dec 28, 2020 04:10
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The REAL Goobusters posted:The Greek character is played by an israeli who supported the idf bombings in 2014 in the Gaza Strip that killed 4 kids playing soccer on a road. hope this helps Chief She outright supported it or are you basing her support of child murder off of her mandatory service? because we back up our claims with sources and links here, chief. E: do you describe Adam Driver as a supporter of baby killers since he didn’t speak out about the marines who murdered kids in the Middle East? Just want to make sure you’re staying on message with your beliefs. ruddiger fucked around with this message at 04:25 on Dec 28, 2020 |
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Dec 28, 2020 04:22
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The REAL Goobusters posted:The Greek character is played by an israeli who supported the idf bombings in 2014 in the Gaza Strip that killed 4 kids playing soccer on a road. hope this helps Chief Yes, I understand that premise. But then, what's the next step in the chain of thought here?
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Dec 28, 2020 04:22
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ruddiger posted:She outright supported it or are you basing her support of child murder off of her mandatory service? because we back up our claims with sources and links here, chief. Yes. Imagine giving a gently caress about Adam driver
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Dec 28, 2020 04:30
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:Yes, I understand that premise. But then, what's the next step in the chain of thought here? This movie is propaganda just plain and simple. That and it’s bad. It’s not like I can do much about it but I won’t be supporting another movie with patty Jenkins or this script writing team. I’ll watch justice league snyder cut and then prob peace out of anything Gal Gadot touches from here on out.
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Dec 28, 2020 04:34
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It's the same thing as Call of Duty presenting the Highway of Death as a Russian war crime. Rewriting history, presenting the offender as the hero and acceptable scapegoat as the perpetrator, to an audience that likely doesn't know any better and is going to have that as their first impression. See also Iron Man and 'only shooting the BAD brown people'.
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Dec 28, 2020 04:40
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ruddiger posted:She outright supported it or are you basing her support of child murder off of her mandatory service? because we back up our claims with sources and links here, chief.  quote:I am sending my love and prayers to my fellow Israeli citizens. Especially to all the boys and girls who are risking their lives protecting my country against the horrific acts conducted by Hamas, who are hiding like cowards behind women and children...We shall overcome!!! Shabbat Shalom! #weareright #freegazafromhamas #stopterror #coexistance #loveidf
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Dec 28, 2020 04:42
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The hero telling a victim of child abuse that Truth is Beautiful in the actual film feels way more relevant to the film's completely bizarre world view It's absolutely not a great movie but I really think it's fascinatingly weird. A delusional Reagan, confused about who and where he is, joining hands with a TV conman to pray for more bombs is wild stuff A True Jar Jar Fan fucked around with this message at 04:48 on Dec 28, 2020 |
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Dec 28, 2020 04:43
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The REAL Goobusters posted:Yes. Imagine giving a gently caress about Adam driver It’s not about giving a gently caress about Adam Driver but pointing out your hypocrisy, I don’t remember you bringing up Driver’s military history in any of your Star Wars thread posts, but feel free to cite them since I don’t really give a poo poo enough to look. ruddiger fucked around with this message at 04:50 on Dec 28, 2020 |
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A True Jar Jar Fan posted:The hero telling a victim of child abuse that Truth is Beautiful in the actual film feels way more relevant to the film's completely bizarre world view I missed a couple of scenes early on but I'm not sure how well they would have contextualised the bit where the guy gets the wishing rock and immediately makes the absolutely bonkers wish to be the wishing rock
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Dec 28, 2020 04:51
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2house2fly posted:I missed a couple of scenes early on but I'm not sure how well they would have contextualised the bit where the guy gets the wishing rock and immediately makes the absolutely bonkers wish to be the wishing rock It's just bog standard wishing-for-more-wishes. Basically the same (goofy) thing Jafar does in Aladdin.
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Dec 28, 2020 05:00
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Stop simping for Gal Gadot and Mr. Apollo posted:they’re probably referring to this Cant believe the her MANDATORY service forced her to post this picture. Sorry everyone I take it back 🤷♀️
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Dec 28, 2020 05:03
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ruddiger posted:It’s not about giving a gently caress about Adam Driver but pointing out your hypocrisy, I don’t remember you bringing up Driver’s military history in any of your Star Wars thread posts, but feel free to cite them since I don’t really give a poo poo enough to look. I don’t like Star Wars and don’t really post in those threads. Keep making poo poo up though, it owns.
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Dec 28, 2020 05:04
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Yeah Lord understands how the Dreamstone works so he rules lawyers it into giving him infinite wishes.
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Dec 28, 2020 05:04
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He ultimately wants to be the richest coolest dude in the world and could have just used his one wish on that instead of getting there step by step with a million wishes Like, the dude uses Genie Magic to hire some interns, it's totally weird stuff
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The REAL Goobusters posted:I don’t like Star Wars and don’t really post in those threads. Keep making poo poo up though, it owns. What exactly did I make up? Your fan fiction is getting weird. And what part of “I don’t give a gently caress about Gal Gadot” means I’m “simping” for her? Also, lol at using words like “simping” and thinking you’re in the moral right of this conversation.
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A True Jar Jar Fan posted:He ultimately wants to be the richest coolest dude in the world and could have just used his one wish on that instead of getting there step by step with a million wishes  I suppose he could have countered that by stating what he wanted taken from him or something like that.
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A True Jar Jar Fan posted:A delusional Reagan, confused about who and where he is, joining hands with a TV conman to pray for more bombs is wild stuff I'm pretty sure this was covered in The Clothes Have No Emperor.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:It's the same thing as Call of Duty presenting the Highway of Death as a Russian war crime. Rewriting history, presenting the offender as the hero and acceptable scapegoat as the perpetrator, to an audience that likely doesn't know any better and is going to have that as their first impression. So the idea's that people watching the film will see actress Gal Gadot on the screen and become confused, thinking Gaza is in Egypt and that Israel was trying to protect them from attacks by a third party in 2014? (Or would that be in 1984?) I'm, like, totally against Israel, but what you're saying doesn't make a lick of sense.
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