UKMT September 2019 - A Fish-Abandoning Government

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ThomasPaine: Feb 4, 2009; We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.

jBrereton posted:

Never mind the polls. Let's just do the practical results that have actually happened, for real.

The party recently got loving buried in the EU elections.

If we're going on practical results then he deprived May of her majority by achieving a 40% vote share.

Also its extremely dumb to read the EU elections as a GE prediction when they were clearly seen as refighting the brexit referendum. In any case the Tories came 5th (behind the loving greens) with labour in 3rd (and obviously the top two spots went to the clear leave/remain parties), and no one genuinely believes they're going to be eradicated in a GE. UKIP won the most seats in the 2014 EU elections and a grand total of 0 seats in Westminster a year later. They're completely different things.

jBrereton posted:

No, on the very obvious grounds that he hasn't won an election he contested and become PM, unlike actually successful former leaders of the opposition.

Pissflaps alt account spotted lol

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Guavanaut: Nov 27, 2009; Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998; Toilet Rascal

I hope his username for the elections and campaigns database is twatson.

# ? Sep 21, 2019 13:46

Bobby Deluxe: May 9, 2004

Guavanaut posted:

Where will run Labour's press office publications?

At the moment it seems like it's the Mirror and the Morning TERF and a bunch of blogs against the whole British press machine, and the battleground issues whichever social media bubble you're in.

I edited into my post that I follow Labour, Corbyn and Momentum on most social media and I don't even feel like I see enough by directly following them. I see way more stuff from Owen Jones or David Lammy, articles that get me riled up and feeling like I want to do something.

But like I said, I don't think the average person follows or even sees those. It'd be easy to blame algorithms and media bias entirely but as I say, even going back to the source they don't capitalise on the evil poo poo the tories are doing except in a broad, general sense.

For example the story about the autistic chap who died in his flat after having his benefits cut off. That's the sort of thing Jones / Lammy will post along with a caption about how this is the tories fault, and Labour want to stop poo poo like that. The last thing I saw from labour was i think Corbyn shouting in PMQs about austerity. And that is a very, very broad term. It's an abstract. I think to a lot of people, it's an amorphous, bad thing hovering over the country.

Now we know about specific cases like the guy who died after his benefits were cut off. But I don't think the general public see it that way. If Corbyn says 120k have died under austerity, it sounds like a lot. But it sounds like a lot in the way that a billion sounds like a lot, and the human brain is not great at processing and contextualising huge numbers.

I think also we're underestimating the effect of seeing real people in these situations. I would argue that the article about one person who died after their benefits were cut off is going to have a much greater effect than the statistic of 120,000 people dead, because that one person has a face we can remember and empathise with. He had a family.

I don't really know what the fix is for this but someone needs to step their pussy up, because I really feel that aside from the obvious and pernicious bias against them, Labour could be doing a lot better with their messaging as well.

Thetobester posted:

Honestly, I don't reckon Tom Watson is as important as you guys are acting.

The problem is the optics of the deputy leader disagreeing with the leader. It massively inflates the perceived legitimacy of Watson's position, which is usually only being reported because it contradicts Corbyn.

Bobby Deluxe fucked around with this message at 13:51 on Sep 21, 2019

# ? Sep 21, 2019 13:47

Sanitary Naptime: May 29, 2006; MIWK!

Igotadigbick posted:

At this point we need the angriest socialist available. We need a lenin that can inspire and rile people up

# ? Sep 21, 2019 13:51

jabby: Oct 27, 2010

Lansman is an idiot for pulling this now without getting his sums right, and Corbyn is an idiot for not realising the best course of action is to follow through.

Now they both look weak, the Left looks weak, and conference is going to be dominated by this for no loving benefit. It's already knocked the latest policy announcement off the news, every single attendee that opens their mouth will be asked about it, and Watson gets to deliver a loving speech on Tuesday where he will be fawned over by the media as a hero. We get all of the fallout, but instead of getting rid of him he emerges even stronger.

It's an absolute clusterfuck and incredibly depressing that Labour is still this badly run.

# ? Sep 21, 2019 13:56

pitch a fitness: Mar 19, 2010

Guavanaut posted:

I hope his username for the elections and campaigns database is twatson.

I believe that's taken by Stephen Kinnock

# ? Sep 21, 2019 13:58

DiscoWitch: Oct 16, 2009; uwu

Sanitary Naptime posted:

I love this!

# ? Sep 21, 2019 14:03

Tesla was right: Apr 3, 2009; Whats with all the robot sex avatars?

Guavanaut posted:

Where will run Labour's press office publications?

At the moment it seems like it's the Mirror and the Morning TERF and a bunch of blogs against the whole British press machine, and the battleground issues whichever social media bubble you're in.

Not sure the Mirror will be around for much longer, given they've called for a royal to be murdered in prison.

# ? Sep 21, 2019 14:10

Guavanaut: Nov 27, 2009; Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998; Toilet Rascal

Sanitary Naptime posted:

Tesla was right posted:

gently caress, maybe we could combine these two in some way.

# ? Sep 21, 2019 14:12

Private Speech: Mar 30, 2011; I HAVE EVEN MORE WORTHLESS BEANIE BABIES IN MY COLLECTION THAN I HAVE WORTHLESS POSTS IN THE BEANIE BABY THREAD YET I STILL HAVE THE TEMERITY TO CRITICIZE OTHERS' COLLECTIONS

IF YOU SEE ME TALKING ABOUT BEANIE BABIES, PLEASE TELL ME TO

EAT. SHIT.

Guavanaut posted:

I think you could end the "people from a certain set of countries can move and work without having the full rights of citizens" thing of the EU without ending the "people citizens of any part of the island of Ireland have the freedom of the whole island plus other areas" of the Comhlimistéar Taistil. That already includes Mann, which isn't in the EU.

Oh yeah the Irirsh are going to be fine even if freedom of movement ends, along with Cypriots and the Maltese. They have separate bilateral treaties to that effect already.

OTOH as far as trusting immigration policy outside the EU more, eh, I'd be very careful. The history of the last century is one of more and more restrictions on immigration, not less, with many of the efforts at least passively supported by Labour as well.

That includes things like losing jus soli, the dublin agreement (which will still be in effect because of course), the variety of immigration acts against the commonwealth, the great many restrictions and massive fees imposed on all aspects of immigration, etc.

e: I'm pretty sure the lie of 'if we assuage the bigots just this once they will not mind other groups of forrigns' has been trotted out in support of most of those.

Private Speech fucked around with this message at 14:36 on Sep 21, 2019

# ? Sep 21, 2019 14:29

jBrereton: May 30, 2013; Grimey Drawer

ThomasPaine posted:

If we're going on practical results then he deprived May of her majority by achieving a 40% vote share.

And Wilson and Blair both drove the Tories out of power for real as leaders of the opposition. That's what a successful leader of the opposition does. That isn't pedantry, that is exactly their job and is how success or failure is measured.

If and when he enters number ten he will be just a normal successful leader of the opposition, not dissimilar to Churchill, Wilson, Heath, Thatcher, Blair, and Cameron since the war (plus, kind of, Attlee).

quote:

Also its extremely dumb to read the EU elections as a GE prediction when they were clearly seen as refighting the brexit referendum. In any case the Tories came 5th (behind the loving greens) with labour in 3rd (and obviously the top two spots went to the clear leave/remain parties), and no one genuinely believes they're going to be eradicated in a GE. UKIP won the most seats in the 2014 EU elections and a grand total of 0 seats in Westminster a year later. They're completely different things.

If Labour had smashed it at the EU elections instead of getting 3 more MEPs than the Greens, you can bet your bottom dollar it would be seen by the party as a wave of momentum they were riding to cruise into power, instead of something people are trying to excuse.

# ? Sep 21, 2019 14:30

Cerebral Bore: Apr 21, 2010; Fun Shoe

Watson is an enormous liability and he should have been expelled a long-rear end time ago. A pity that they didn't follow through.

# ? Sep 21, 2019 14:34

ThomasPaine: Feb 4, 2009; We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.

jBrereton posted:

If Labour had smashed it at the EU elections instead of getting 3 more MEPs than the Greens, you can bet your bottom dollar it would be seen by the party as a wave of momentum they were riding to cruise into power, instead of something people are trying to excuse.

Perhaps, but that would also be dumb

# ? Sep 21, 2019 14:37

feedmegin: Jul 30, 2008

jBrereton posted:

If Labour had smashed it at the EU elections instead of getting 3 more MEPs than the Greens, you can bet your bottom dollar it would be seen by the party as a wave of momentum they were riding to cruise into power, instead of something people are trying to excuse.

Given that it was a low turn out proxy vote on Brexit, yes, we would, because that was always amazingly unlikely.

# ? Sep 21, 2019 14:38

Sloth Life: Nov 15, 2014; Built for comfort and speed!; Fallen Rib

Can anyone explain why Lansman pulled back at the last minute? Is there is a legitimate reason (not enough votes, threatened by a media heavy, Corbyn told him to bottle it because of optics)?

# ? Sep 21, 2019 14:43

happyhippy: Feb 21, 2005; Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup; Pillbug

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I87uPyfUNq4

New Johnathan Pie.

# ? Sep 21, 2019 14:45

ThomasPaine: Feb 4, 2009; We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.

happyhippy posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I87uPyfUNq4

New Johnathan Pie.

Jonathan pie is cancelled

# ? Sep 21, 2019 14:47

jBrereton: May 30, 2013; Grimey Drawer

ThomasPaine posted:

Jonathan pie is cancelled

Finally

# ? Sep 21, 2019 14:48

jabby: Oct 27, 2010

Sloth Life posted:

Can anyone explain why Lansman pulled back at the last minute? Is there is a legitimate reason (not enough votes, threatened by a media heavy, Corbyn told him to bottle it because of optics)?

Some suggestion that he thought he had the votes for a 2/3 majority yesterday, and was hoping to ram it through with Corbyn absent. Whether because he didn't know or he wanted to keep his hands clean, who knows. But either way they bottled it when the very predictable backlash began.

# ? Sep 21, 2019 14:49

Guavanaut: Nov 27, 2009; Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998; Toilet Rascal

Private Speech posted:

Oh yeah the Irirsh are going to be fine even if freedom of movement ends, along with Cypriots and the Maltese. They have separate bilateral treaties to that effect already.

OTOH as far as trusting immigration policy outside the EU more, eh, I'd be very careful. The history of the last century is one of more and more restrictions on immigration, not less, with many of the efforts at least passively supported by Labour as well.

That includes things like losing jus soli, the dublin agreement (which will still be in effect because of course), the variety of immigration acts against the commonwealth, the great many restrictions and massive fees imposed on all aspects of immigration, etc.

Yeah, Labour has been lovely on this issue in the past, but as twisto said the current four freedoms of "you can work here but you can't vote and you'll never be British unless you specifically apply, plus capital has a bunch of freedoms too" isn't exactly great, and the EU doesn't care either way if we choose to windrush a bunch of old Jamaicans or render people stateless for downloading an anarchism cookbook while having foreign parents.

I don't inherently trust the UK or the EU not to be a big pile of pricks to people they consider Others, but I'd trust Diane Abbott over Atlas Shirred or the sensible centre of bank balance values not ideologies.

Overall people seem to have calmed down a bit about migration compared to 5 years ago (although the British public do continue to be Wrong About Everything) but I think that's mostly because the press has.

And I think the restrictions on immigration have only come with an increase in the accessibility of immigration. That doesn't make them right, but prior to the immigration acts there were other systemic pressures and barriers keeping people in the colonies (as it was) or other parts of the world, outside of a handful of rich assholes with chaiwalas as a 'novelty' and the ever present migrant communities in major ports, neither of which I think are a good model of migration.

# ? Sep 21, 2019 14:52

AceClown: Sep 11, 2005

From talking to people at work and in the pubs and stuff I find that no one gives a single poo poo about antisemitism and it's rarely mentioned Corbyn's brexit position.

The single thing that seems to have stuck from the media bullshit around my way is the "terrorist sympathiser" poo poo, it's always the first thing I hear when I ask people why they're so against Corbyn.

# ? Sep 21, 2019 14:58

Microplastics: Jul 6, 2007; It's what's for dinner.

Boogoose posted:

This thread has given me good answers about problems with my job before so I've got another situation that has come up.

I have a contracted job at a library that I really enjoy, but it's not the best paying and is only part time. For years now I've had a casual contract at a museum a building services guy and have worked most Mondays and weekends. Until recently we had a decent supervisor who made sure all the casuals got a fair amount of hours, but he's since moved on. The supervisor that took over decided that the best way to allocate shifts was just to give the lion's share to two old blokes who have retired and evidently can't stand their wives so they'd rather continue to go to work. I'm obviously not pleased with this news, as it's shifts for the next three months, and my hours have taken a massive cut. I worked it out for three months, I'm getting 70 hours and one of the olds is getting 220... mostly on days that I could have worked.

I took this matter up with management and was told that it was done this way because they didn't have time to work out a fair rota. Problem is, I've been a supervisor elsewhere and know that with such a small team (five casuals) to rota, it literally takes about two hours every month. I even showed them that with five casuals, and five days of the week, it's an even simpler job. Added to this that the manager in question is known to stroll in at ten, takes a two hour lunch, and leaves at half three.

What really boils my piss is that I know for a fact that the two people getting most of the shifts are retired with solid pensions and paid off mortgages... meanwhile, I'm utterly hosed without those extra hours. Have I got anything left to throw at management? I was going to point out that actions likes have consequences for people's lives, but I know I can't get too much into criticising management as I'm relying on their goodwill to continue giving me what few shifts are left.

Given that management has already dismissed you once, then in your position, I'd raise the concern with your fellow colleagues (the ones also getting shafted by this new arrangement) and arrange a group meeting.

If they still dismiss it, you could write a joint letter of grievance to formalise the complaint somewhat. Management might see where this is going and nip it in the bud my allocating hours more fairly.

If that doesn't work, frame the olds for stealing.

# ? Sep 21, 2019 15:00

Bobstar: Feb 8, 2006; KartooshFace, you are not responding efficiently!

Guavanaut posted:

Yeah, Labour has been lovely on this issue in the past, but as twisto said the current four freedoms of "you can work here but you can't vote and you'll never be British unless you specifically apply, plus capital has a bunch of freedoms too" isn't exactly great, and the EU doesn't care either way if we choose to windrush a bunch of old Jamaicans or render people stateless for downloading an anarchism cookbook while having foreign parents.

I don't inherently trust the UK or the EU not to be a big pile of pricks to people they consider Others, but I'd trust Diane Abbott over Atlas Shirred or the sensible centre of bank balance values not ideologies.

Overall people seem to have calmed down a bit about migration compared to 5 years ago (although the British public do continue to be Wrong About Everything) but I think that's mostly because the press has.

And I think the restrictions on immigration have only come with an increase in the accessibility of immigration. That doesn't make them right, but prior to the immigration acts there were other systemic pressures and barriers keeping people in the colonies (as it was) or other parts of the world, outside of a handful of rich assholes with chaiwalas as a 'novelty' and the ever present migrant communities in major ports, neither of which I think are a good model of migration.

I worry that any move by Labour to liberalise any aspect of immigration would immediately rekindle the flames of tabloid/public (chicken/egg) outrage against the concept. It's tried and tested, it may be resting right now (though I'd argue it's because Brexit, which is a "win" for anti-immigration, is still sitting fatly in its place), but it's not dead.

The problem we're seeing now regarding EU free movement is that people used it for the decades that it existed, but now it's being threatened while they're still using it. A nicer UK immigration system as enacted by Diane Abbott would be vulnerable to that effect in an even shorter term - in 10 years time: "Your UK2020 visas are revoked, get out".

# ? Sep 21, 2019 15:10

Private Speech: Mar 30, 2011; I HAVE EVEN MORE WORTHLESS BEANIE BABIES IN MY COLLECTION THAN I HAVE WORTHLESS POSTS IN THE BEANIE BABY THREAD YET I STILL HAVE THE TEMERITY TO CRITICIZE OTHERS' COLLECTIONS

IF YOU SEE ME TALKING ABOUT BEANIE BABIES, PLEASE TELL ME TO

EAT. SHIT.

Guavanaut posted:

I don't inherently trust the UK or the EU not to be a big pile of pricks to people they consider Others, but I'd trust Diane Abbott over Atlas Shirred or the sensible centre of bank balance values not ideologies.

While I'm sure she'll be a far better home secretary than the Tory shower of pricks ever could, and some of the policies that Labour has announced are good (end of indefinite detention in particular, though I'm worried it'll end up working out like closing down guantanamo bay), I just don't see a seismic change in the current immigration policy, certainly not based on what was announced policy-wise so far.

e: Also as Bobstar said it could be reverted even easier later on.

Private Speech fucked around with this message at 15:26 on Sep 21, 2019

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bump_fn: Apr 12, 2004; _{two of them}

Bobstar posted:

I worry that any move by Labour to liberalise any aspect of immigration would immediately rekindle the flames of tabloid/public (chicken/egg) outrage against the concept. It's tried and tested, it may be resting right now (though I'd argue it's because Brexit, which is a "win" for anti-immigration, is still sitting fatly in its place), but it's not dead.

The problem we're seeing now regarding EU free movement is that people used it for the decades that it existed, but now it's being threatened while they're still using it. A nicer UK immigration system as enacted by Diane Abbott would be vulnerable to that effect in an even shorter term - in 10 years time: "Your UK2020 visas are revoked, get out".

actually the home office is great and wonderful and i love the queen and please dont revoke my visa please i dont want to go back to america

# ? Sep 21, 2019 15:25

OwlFancier: Aug 22, 2013; ASK ME WHAT I DID TO KEEP MY STAR AFTER EDITING OTHER PEOPLES POSTS

8============D

That sounds like a good argument for fast tracking citizenship, which I think we should do anyway because people who live here should vote here.

# ? Sep 21, 2019 15:26

Skull Servant: Oct 25, 2009

https://twitter.com/TheShamrock1888/status/1175071931240013825?s=19

Broken brains

# ? Sep 21, 2019 15:26

Diet Crack: Jan 15, 2001

Slight derail, but loving WHAT? You need to send ID documents to twitter to deactivate an account? You have to be loving joking me right?

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# ? Sep 21, 2019 15:28

Pencils R Cool: Feb 16, 2011

https://twitter.com/Satiresocialist/status/1175355422108266496

BBC Hack quotes satirical Twitter account live on air lmao

# ? Sep 21, 2019 15:28

Guavanaut: Nov 27, 2009; Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998; Toilet Rascal

AceClown posted:

From talking to people at work and in the pubs and stuff I find that no one gives a single poo poo about antisemitism and it's rarely mentioned Corbyn's brexit position.

The single thing that seems to have stuck from the media bullshit around my way is the "terrorist sympathiser" poo poo, it's always the first thing I hear when I ask people why they're so against Corbyn.

The Tories literally pal around with people that lop heads off and blow up schoolchildren. Ask them why going on PressTV or laying a wreath within the same square mile as a monument for a person who did some terror is bad but this is fine.

Bobstar posted:

I worry that any move by Labour to liberalise any aspect of immigration would immediately rekindle the flames of tabloid/public (chicken/egg) outrage against the concept. It's tried and tested, it may be resting right now (though I'd argue it's because Brexit, which is a "win" for anti-immigration, is still sitting fatly in its place), but it's not dead.

The problem we're seeing now regarding EU free movement is that people used it for the decades that it existed, but now it's being threatened while they're still using it. A nicer UK immigration system as enacted by Diane Abbott would be vulnerable to that effect in an even shorter term - in 10 years time: "Your UK2020 visas are revoked, get out".

Yeah it's a constant battle with no Last Day. We need an honest and upfront statement about what kinds of migration we do want (reuniting families, granting asylum and refugee status, protecting human rights, teaching students) and what kind of immigration we don't want (exploited farm labor gangs run by literal mobsters, sweatshops undercutting workers' rights) and how we're going to police that.

Also I think that the Conservative "are nation stronk borders" and the Liberal "open borders low welfare" views are both full of poo poo, and we also should be talking about how we're going to improve the places that have been left desolated by every able bodied person leaving to find work elsewhere, whether we're talking about North Wales or Northern Uganda. Although that's also a huge uphill challenge when even a private charity donating 2% overseas leads to bullshit like this.

painted into a coroner posted:

https://twitter.com/TheShamrock1888/status/1175071931240013825?s=19

Broken brains

lmao

# ? Sep 21, 2019 15:29

bump_fn: Apr 12, 2004; _{two of them}

OwlFancier posted:

That sounds like a good argument for fast tracking citizenship, which I think we should do anyway because people who live here should vote here.

its insane. if you're here on a visa for five years you can then apply for indefinite leave to remain (which means you can get public benefits and etc but cant vote). then one year after THAT you can apply for citizenship. oh also if you have indefinite leave to remain and then you "reside" outside the country for some period of time they can take it away.

# ? Sep 21, 2019 15:31

OwlFancier: Aug 22, 2013; ASK ME WHAT I DID TO KEEP MY STAR AFTER EDITING OTHER PEOPLES POSTS

8============D

The queen definitely watches jeremy vine

bump_fn posted:

its insane. if you're here on a visa for five years you can then apply for indefinite leave to remain (which means you can get public benefits and etc but cant vote). then one year after THAT you can apply for citizenship. oh also if you have indefinite leave to remain and then you "reside" outside the country for some period of time they can take it away.

Well yeah because the reason we have immigration is because that constant threat of deportation makes you a more desperate worker.

# ? Sep 21, 2019 15:32

bump_fn: Apr 12, 2004; _{two of them}

OwlFancier posted:

The queen definitely watches jeremy vine

Well yeah because the reason we have immigration is because that constant threat of deportation makes you a more desperate worker.

also the fees are higher to extend your visa than to apply from abroad since youre already here lol

# ? Sep 21, 2019 15:37

Microplastics: Jul 6, 2007; It's what's for dinner.

Diet Crack posted:

That link is unique to you so I've helpfully uploaded Jose's prolapse photos for you, that should get your account deactivated (i haven't)

Seriously though that does seem excessive, just send them a request to erase all your info as per GDPR https://ico.org.uk/for-organisation...ght-to-erasure/

edit:

ah interesting:

quote:

Can we ask an individual for ID?

If you have doubts about the identity of the person making the request you can ask for more information. However, it is important that you only request information that is necessary to confirm who they are. The key to this is proportionality. You should take into account what data you hold, the nature of the data, and what you are using it for.

You must let the individual know without undue delay and within one month that you need more information from them to confirm their identity. You do not need to comply with the request until you have received the additional information.

I should think that sending a tweet on your own account saying "I want to delete this account, I'll also confirm this by email" and then sending said email would be sufficient

Microplastics fucked around with this message at 15:44 on Sep 21, 2019

# ? Sep 21, 2019 15:40

RottenK: Feb 17, 2011; Sexy bad choices

FAILED NOJOE

I really hope that Corbyn has a plan and a good reason for why he decided to save this worthless brairite gently caress from being given the boot. It's hard to buy into the argument that it would've been a scandal when the press is going to invent scandals no matter what.

# ? Sep 21, 2019 15:43

jaete: Jun 21, 2009; Nap Ghost

Diet Crack posted:

Slight derail, but loving WHAT? You need to send ID documents to twitter to deactivate an account? You have to be loving joking me right?

could you gdpr them or something

# ? Sep 21, 2019 15:44

Lobster God: Nov 5, 2008

bump_fn posted:

its insane. if you're here on a visa for five years you can then apply for indefinite leave to remain (which means you can get public benefits and etc but cant vote). then one year after THAT you can apply for citizenship. oh also if you have indefinite leave to remain and then you "reside" outside the country for some period of time they can take it away.

There's also a ten year route if you don't meet the conditions for 5 years (has to be renewed every 30 months).

# ? Sep 21, 2019 15:44

Coohoolin: Aug 5, 2012; Oor Coohoolie.

PODCAST TIME

Alright everyone, the latest Praxiscast is out and it's a doozy! Covering Johnson's bumbling tour of being dunked on, Kuenssberg doxxing the parent, the lib dem conference, and absolutely AWFUL article, and our usual CoC game. Enjoy!

https://praxiscast.podbean.com/e/episode-5-the-swinter-of-our-discontent/

Coohoolin fucked around with this message at 15:53 on Sep 21, 2019

# ? Sep 21, 2019 15:45

AceClown: Sep 11, 2005

Guavanaut posted:

The Tories literally pal around with people that lop heads off and blow up schoolchildren. Ask them why going on PressTV or laying a wreath within the same square mile as a monument for a person who did some terror is bad but this is fine.

Problem is that terrorist acts not on white western soil don't even register for the vast majority of people.

# ? Sep 21, 2019 15:46

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Diet Crack: Jan 15, 2001

JeremoudCorbynejad posted:

That link is unique to you so I've helpfully uploaded Jose's prolapse photos for you, that should get your account deactivated (i haven't)

Please do, as my account is suspended and I'm not giving these assholes personal information. I get it if you're a blue tick and use twitter incessantly, but this account was made like 2 months ago, has barely loving anything on it and does not require Twitter having my passport or drivers licence to deactivate it. Furthermore, there is absolutely no loving way I'm sending said documents to an automated email address.

jaete posted:

could you gdpr them or something

I've written a formal complaint to the ICO and notified Twitter that I was doing so.

Diet Crack fucked around with this message at 15:55 on Sep 21, 2019

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