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Ok, I'm all aboard the "watch pissbaby actually start a war" now. And but of course, it's in the most desceptive, low effort, copy of historical precedent, false flag way possible I shouldn't be shocked but I am ThisIsJohnWayne fucked around with this message at 08:16 on May 13, 2019 |
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Don't we get reports (from goons or local media) of troop/base mobilization before war is declared/commenced?
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May 13, 2019 08:23
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It doesn't mean that a war starts today. It means that a conversation starts today, something like "what are we going to do about the criminal bandits who attack us because they are evil? Such a threat to world stability. A lot of people are saying we need to be tough, and we need to use the Big things with the Big words and be biggly Big. I am a stable genius, but folks believe me, Bing Bong song so easy" And no, this is not what a buildup looks like, not by a long shot. But it does look like a "they shot first" justification for something that could escalate to the very same. The latest developments (Pentagon warnings, patriot batter battery deployment, Saudi oil tankers being attacked); Why? Cui Bono? So: watch Trump start a war. Or whatever the hell Bolton has in mind.
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May 13, 2019 09:53
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ThisIsJohnWayne posted:It doesn't mean that a war starts today. It means that a conversation starts today, something like "what are we going to do about the criminal bandits who attack us because they are evil? Such a threat to world stability. A lot of people are saying we need to be tough, and we need to use the Big things with the Big words and be biggly Big. I am a stable genius, but folks believe me, Bing Bong song so easy" A "patriot batter battery" sounds like something you'd find in a milporn video. More on topic, I think Trump is trying to sell a Causus Belli to the public first. For all their issues, I don't think anyone on the JCS thinks a war with Iran makes sense or is "easy to win" or won't be a giant quagmire (not that they matter much to the Chain of Command, but no one is having that Iraq war moment of jingoistic exuberance besides Trump and Bolton).
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May 13, 2019 14:03
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God if we go to war with Iran, gas is going to hit like $4-5 a gallon easily It’s also going to be a massive disaster since it will be run by the same dumbasses that ran the Iraq War
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May 13, 2019 14:41
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FlamingLiberal posted:God if we go to war with Iran, gas is going to hit like $4-5 a gallon easily It would spike very high if Iran made an attempt to close the Straight of Hormuz. But the US is a lot less dependent on fuel from the middle east then it used to be. Prices would go down, at least in the US itself, as more fracking operations came online to take advantage of the high price.
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May 13, 2019 15:20
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Setting this all up will take too long and Trump will lose interest/forget about it. Saving millions.
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May 13, 2019 16:08
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FlamingLiberal posted:It’s also going to be a massive disaster since it will be run by the same dumbasses that ran the Iraq War I think the dumbasses are even dumber this time around. Still waiting for Trump to incompetently Reichstag something and accidentally set one of his own properties on fire.
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May 13, 2019 16:29
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Watch everyone believe the Saudis after Kashoggi and the Yemen vote.
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May 13, 2019 21:36
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In some other tidbits besides imminent war with Iran mk 348, MBS has come out in defense of China's right to throw Uyghur Muslims into concentration camps. There were also some large protests in Tehran today, at Tehran university, over the mandatory hijab law. Young professionals and students didn't participate as much in the most recent protests, which were centered around rural areas. The videos coming out of there make it look like the most serious protests from that segment of society in quite a while.
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May 13, 2019 22:26
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lol this is the most transparent false flag ever. "Gee just as our ships get to Iran, after Iran doesn't bow to our sanctions bullshit, some rando ships get burnt and our good friends the Saudis say 'yea this was Iran'. Guess we have no choice..."
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May 13, 2019 23:16
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Grape posted:Setting this all up will take too long and Trump will lose interest/forget about it. Saving millions. We can only hope, but he tweeted about Obama doing the same: https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/260421157201784832 ...so by the transitive property of "There's Always A Tweet," I wouldn't write off the possibility.
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May 13, 2019 23:48
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friendly reminder: the US lies about Iran. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLEPO42QY8U Should get the Razzy award for worst imitation accent.
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May 14, 2019 00:51
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Things heating up in Khartoum, seems like: https://twitter.com/asteris/status/1128095991801032704
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May 14, 2019 01:49
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https://twitter.com/julianbarnes/status/1128086610959007745?s=19 We just can't get enough of these land wars in the Middle East.
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May 14, 2019 01:56
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OhFunny posted:https://twitter.com/julianbarnes/status/1128086610959007745?s=19 Oh, not a land invasion, they're just gonna be chilling in
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Volkerball posted:In some other tidbits besides imminent war with Iran mk 348, MBS has come out in defense of China's right to throw Uyghur Muslims into concentration camps. There were also some large protests in Tehran today, at Tehran university, over the mandatory hijab law. Young professionals and students didn't participate as much in the most recent protests, which were centered around rural areas. The videos coming out of there make it look like the most serious protests from that segment of society in quite a while. warm up those pompoms, baby, it's time to do the We Will Be Greeted As Liberators again
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May 14, 2019 02:12
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That's a significant amount of the US military to deploy to just sit and watch. It also gives Iran and it's proxies a lot over targets to shoot at if poo poo went down.
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May 14, 2019 02:13
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Those attacks on the oil tankers (and any future attacks) will be blamed on the Iranian Revolutionary Guard whether they actually did them or not. And I'm thinking they did not. And guess who we just designated a terrorist group? The Iranian Revolutionary Guard. That gives the Trump admin all the legal cover they need to attack them since I believe the AUMF from 2001 would cover it. gently caress, that bill is just the gift that keeps on giving for Republicans.
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May 14, 2019 02:40
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I'm glad those 120k troops will be safe with all the defensive B52's that have already been brought over there to provide protective firebomb cover.
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May 14, 2019 02:42
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Also drat did the NYtimes not change at all or what? They cheerleaded the runup to the Iraq war, and now they won't even question these oil tankers getting attacked. It's so plainly obvious this is some false flag type poo poo.
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May 14, 2019 02:48
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Charliegrs posted:Also drat did the NYtimes not change at all or what? They cheerleaded the runup to the Iraq war, and now they won't even question these oil tankers getting attacked. It's so plainly obvious this is some false flag type poo poo.
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May 14, 2019 14:05
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War sells papers. Which they need to do because who the gently caress is still buying papers?
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May 14, 2019 14:09
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This seems particularly ill-timed: https://twitter.com/i24NEWS_EN/status/1128246685086494720 https://twitter.com/saeedalBatati/status/1128287086833016833
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May 14, 2019 14:16
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Just so we're clear, the US isn't sending 120 000 troops. If they do it will mean something, but we're not there yet.
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May 14, 2019 15:28
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I heard they were being sent as border contingincy to increase pressure on Iran, and not as Operation Iskander.
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May 14, 2019 15:33
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Count Roland posted:Just so we're clear, the US isn't sending 120 000 troops. If they do it will mean something, but we're not there yet. that something being "one of the only configurations where it's believable we flat lose a war with Iran"
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May 14, 2019 16:32
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Absurd Alhazred posted:I'm glad those 120k troops will be safe with all the defensive B52's that have already been brought over there to provide protective firebomb cover. I think flying B-52's over Iran is just going to get a bunch of dead bombercrew.
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May 14, 2019 16:34
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https://twitter.com/JDiamond1/status/1128323226017333254
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May 14, 2019 16:52
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Yes and the AP is reporting that the alleged ship damage is tiny according to satellite reports
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May 14, 2019 17:03
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Gonna lol pretty hard when we find out the same stooge squad that was behind the khashoggi killing flew into UAE the day before this '''''attack'''' as well.
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May 14, 2019 17:37
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FlamingLiberal posted:Yes and the AP is reporting that the alleged ship damage is tiny according to satellite reports There's video going around of one of the ships that RT sourced, so grain of salt. Could be from a call of duty cut scene. https://twitter.com/Joyce_Karam/status/1127920412787011584?s=19
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May 14, 2019 18:29
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https://twitter.com/RYP__/status/1127922180614787072
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May 14, 2019 19:21
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Interestingly Press TV was one of the first to report on this, just mentioning explosions or fire. A Lebanese newspaper was the first, voting eyewitness, and others picked it up from there. UAE initially denied the reports.
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May 14, 2019 19:59
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The total shitstorm that is navigation in the Gulf makes me think this is probably a coincidence of oopses and some jackass, when interviewed, claimed he saw a terrorist explosion UFO flying the Iranian flag, so now SA/RT/UAE/Press TV get to have an incompetent propaganda fight.
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May 14, 2019 20:48
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Wouldn’t be surprised if it’s just a loose cargo container or something like that floating in the sea, that’s why all the damage is at the waterline.
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May 14, 2019 21:47
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May 14, 2019 21:55
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https://twitter.com/Elizabeth_McLau/status/1128402047127171072 "Actually the British are just pretending not to be scared of Iran." I'd humbly suggest getting our forces the gently caress out of Iraq if we're so worried about them. If we think they're unsafe now, I bet they'll be really safe in the middle of a Shia uprising if we attack Iran. Dr Kool-AIDS fucked around with this message at 22:22 on May 14, 2019 |
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May 14, 2019 22:18
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Sinteres posted:https://twitter.com/Elizabeth_McLau/status/1128402047127171072
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