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Fiction posted:It was definitely Assad causing the Syrian revolution to become taken over by Islamists and definitely not the US's best ally in the region which has made its mission to spread Wahhabism through funding and arming child-beheading militias. Oh and the US also arming those people definitely had nothing to do with it. Assad created just about the most perfect conditions imaginable for Islamists to be ascendent in the revolution. People need to stop treating Islamic fundamentalism as some kind of hive mind emanating from Saudi Arabia where if we take down the queen all the drones will flop over like the end of the Avengers. Its much more multifaceted than that, for example a lot of the intellectual basis for modern Islamism comes from people Sayyid Qutb who didn't have much to do with Saudi Arabia.
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So apparently it's been confirmed that the classified intel Trump leaked came from Israel.
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MechanicalTomPetty posted:So apparently it's been confirmed that the classified intel Trump leaked came from Israel. I guess the source itself isn't that important, or those leaking this would be more careful. I guess its about the principal of the matter. e: or a way to burn Trump
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May 16, 2017 19:54
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Once Trump spilled the beans the cat was already out of the bag as far as actually using that source is concerned.
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Sinteres posted:The opening remarks were incoherent even for Trump. Someone's not getting enough sleep. He starts out at least sensible (if slow, like he's having trouble reading it), but every time he looks up from the paper to try and improvise his brain just goes bananas.
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chitoryu12 posted:He starts out at least sensible (if slow, like he's having trouble reading it), but every time he looks up from the paper to try and improvise his brain just goes bananas. It's genuinely baffling the way he refuses to stick to the script. His ability to improvise during the campaign was effective at times, but he's unbelievably bad at doing it as president. I'd say embarrassing himself during a state visit should be something he'd want to avoid, but by all appearances he's just fine with it since this wasn't the first time.
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May 16, 2017 20:26
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Uncle Kitchener posted:[Insert Gundam Villain Here] Yeah he's Bask Om from Zeta.
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Sinteres posted:It's genuinely baffling the way he refuses to stick to the script. His ability to improvise during the campaign was effective at times, but he's unbelievably bad at doing it as president. I'd say embarrassing himself during a state visit should be something he'd want to avoid, but by all appearances he's just fine with it since this wasn't the first time. The word 'baffling' applies to the Americans who elected him thinking he was anything other than a conman with advanced cognitive deficiencies, one who would be incapable of governing and one who would damage the standing of the United States more than all the presidents in the post WWII period combined. I don't think there's any doubt that the president of the United States has dementia, alzheimers or even just regular ADD with a broke rear end old brain. If you followed his endless attempts to go 'on script' during the campaign you would see him attempt it for 30 seconds, get bored, then go on a tangent. I can only remember a single speech (the debut of 'I'm with you')where he stuck to his script without appearing flustered, bored or ranting. It's loving pathetic. Trump's trick is to make you think there's something when you're just staring at nothing. Truthfully, though, he'd be a real terror if it was 80's Trump as president and in a way the USA, and the world, is lucky his brain is broken.
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May 16, 2017 20:53
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So what have I missed in the last two months here in the middle east?
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May 16, 2017 21:14
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Grouchio posted:So what have I missed in the last two months here in the middle east? It's a live reenactment of every Gundam, both good and bad.
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May 16, 2017 21:16
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Baloogan posted:which anime villain is assad most like? 
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Grouchio posted:So what have I missed in the last two months here in the middle east? Erdogan is the new sultan. Both the US and Russia put troops on the Turkish border to dissuade Turkey from attacking the YPG. Yemen is still horrible. Election season in Iran Oh and Trump bombed Syria.
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May 16, 2017 22:12
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Got a mid-term coming up Grouchio?
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Grouchio posted:So what have I missed in the last two months here in the middle east? Trump likely burned an Israeli intelligence asset in ISIS so he could brag to the Russians.
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May 16, 2017 22:41
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Uncle Kitchener posted:It's a live reenactment of every Gundam, both good and bad. Assad has yet to do a colony drop on Idlib.
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El Disco posted:Trump likely burned an Israeli intelligence asset in ISIS so he could brag to the Russians. It could be worse and they are asking Mossad to take the hit so the press looks the wrong way.
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Conspiratiorist posted:It could be worse and they are asking Mossad to take the hit so the press looks the wrong way. Post/username combo. That has far too many moving parts in it. Generally speaking, assume the dumbest and simplest option from the Trump Administration and you will never be surprised.
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May 16, 2017 23:00
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Grouchio posted:So what have I missed in the last two months here in the middle east? Video evidence of the rebels in Idlib openly bragging about and advertising themselves as Al Qaeda. But that's Assad's fault of course... 
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thatfatkid posted:Video evidence of the rebels in Idlib openly bragging about and advertising themselves as Al Qaeda. But that's Assad's fault of course... It was the army of conquest that made the big push on Idlib and took it from the regime to begin with. I don't think anyone denied al qaeda plays a large role in the city. But there's also often protests and civil resistance against them there.
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Shageletic posted:Got a mid-term coming up Grouchio?
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Here are Erdogan's body guards attacking Kurdish protesters in DC https://twitter.com/voaturkish/status/864631567972540417
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May 17, 2017 03:41
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CherryCola posted:Here are Erdogan's body guards attacking Kurdish protesters in DC This isn't the first time that's happened either. I'm sure some posters in this thread will find a way to blame the Kurds though.
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May 17, 2017 03:50
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CherryCola posted:Here are Erdogan's body guards attacking Kurdish protesters in DC Still unfortunate that the coup failed to liquidate them.
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CherryCola posted:Here are Erdogan's body guards attacking Kurdish protesters in DC Are they arresting protesters at the end?
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TildeATH posted:Are they arresting protesters at the end? Yes.
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Children getting some respite in Idlib https://twitter.com/hxhassan/status/864686426314727425
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May 17, 2017 05:17
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Deploying clowns against innocent children. Despicable.
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May 17, 2017 05:50
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So genocidal jihadist militias are good because they put on a clown show for kids? For some reason i don't think that video is representative of the conditions of Al Nusra held Idlib province.
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thatfatkid posted:So genocidal jihadist militias are good because they put on a clown show for kids? Not everyone outside of Pax Assad is a bearded killer.
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thatfatkid posted:So genocidal jihadist militias are good because they put on a clown show for kids? No, it's representative of some kids seeing some clowns. Not everything has to be about good and evil.
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You're right. It definitely wasn't an intellectually dishonest attempt by a repeated jihadist apologist to handwave away the actual theocratic/genocidal administration that the people of Idlib province are subject to.
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May 17, 2017 10:46
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Even moderate islamists are reactionary scum, neoliberal shills who will support any corporation so long as they get their religious laws enshrined. It's not really much of a revolution if they end up in power.
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thatfatkid posted:You're right. It definitely wasn't an intellectually dishonest attempt by a repeated jihadist apologist to handwave away the actual theocratic/genocidal administration that the people of Idlib province are subject to. gently caress you.
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Fiction posted:It was definitely Assad causing the Syrian revolution to become taken over by Islamists and definitely not the US's best ally in the region which has made its mission to spread Wahhabism through funding and arming child-beheading militias. Oh and the US also arming those people definitely had nothing to do with it. whynotboth.gif
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May 17, 2017 11:05
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Yeah, there is certainly an argument to be made that both Assad created an ideal breeding ground for extremism (economic liberalism, amnesties) and the Gulf states have done their best to make it happen (including allowing indirect funding to happen through private individuals). You can throw the US in there as well for the Iraq War and turning a blind eye to the Gulf. Like everything in the Syrian Civil War, no one has any clean hands.
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Just so long as those kids aren't suffering any more.
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I think they just need jobs, personally.
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