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I'll see what I can do next currency distribution cycle, but I just bought a new av so that should help!
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Yeah, same. Thanks to our orange rear end in a top hat I actually owe $700 in taxes instead of getting my usual refund, so this month's a little slim. Bought platinum anyway though, figure after what, twelve years I might as well be able to send people PMs about how stupid they are.
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Phenotype posted:Yeah, same. Thanks to our orange rear end in a top hat I actually owe $700 in taxes instead of getting my usual refund, so this month's a little slim. Bought platinum anyway though, figure after what, twelve years I might as well be able to send people PMs about how stupid they are. Yeah it's all Trump's fault, let's totally absolve the loving legislature that actually has control over these things.
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Mar 13, 2019 02:55
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Well they were doing it in service to him
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Reading the details of lowtax getting bent over by God this year genuinely made me sad. I appreciate his honesty about what's going on because lord that is not easy stuff to talk about.
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It is kind of funny in a cosmic way that it wasn’t mismanagement or corruption that killed the forums but lowtaxs hosed up genetics and literally disintegrating spine
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Mar 13, 2019 04:24
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America killed the forums rip
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Mar 13, 2019 05:15
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Also keep in mind that if you see someone with a TRUMP LOVER avatar or other annoying avatar/title, for just  you can change it to whatever you like (or whatever you think they'll hate!) AND contribute money to the cause.
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This doom and gloom is depressing the duck out of me. If the worst happens, what's the Orville to SAs TNG?
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Mister Kingdom posted:A lot of hospitals will offer self-pay discounts. The teaching hospital by me offered a self-pay discount/payment arrangement package that covered life threatening conditions and medications but it did have restrictions like medicine was only covered if you went to the hospital pharmacy and you could not refuse if they were going to bring students in. What bills you got were after the discount kicked in, you could break the payments down to something more manageable. It got discontinued when the ACA started, but if you were broke enough, you could apply for Medicare/Medicaid.
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Mar 13, 2019 06:25
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Can’t one of the rich goons just throw him a massive chunk of cash?
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Mar 13, 2019 08:16
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Beachcomber posted:This doom and gloom is depressing the duck out of me. There genuinely isn't one. Modern forums are more reddit style than discussion style.
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pixaal posted:So in America the hospital says they want to charge 100,000 for something the insurance company says we pay for 25,000 of these a year we only want to pay 50,000 and they pay that instead. If they cant come to terms the insurance company refuses to work with the hospital. You'd think at least they'd pay whatever they normally pay and you'd only have to pay the difference. Then again, it seems a 'normal' rate just doesn't exist. Hooray for freedom of choice I guess?
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gbs but from 2004 posted:Can’t one of the rich goons just throw him a massive chunk of cash? you don't seem to understand the rich
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uXs posted:You'd think at least they'd pay whatever they normally pay and you'd only have to pay the difference.  everything you need to know about the united states is that it is geared to extract the most amount of money from the poorest of it's denizens and funnel it to the richest citizens.
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Mar 13, 2019 12:34
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Iron Crowned posted:
Yeah I know, I'm just expressing my distaste for it all.
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gbs but from 2004 posted:Can’t one of the rich goons just throw him a massive chunk of cash? Rich people in the U.S. are rich because they don’t spend their hoard of wealth, unless they need a building for their fleet of antique cars or a solid gold umbrella holder for their 1 umbrella that used to belong to JFK.
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No they're rich because they were born rich and have systemic advantages making it impossible for them to lose money
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PureRok posted:Why not both?
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In the spirit of the Brighter Future the Orville represents, I have donated some ill-gotten gains from my megacorp employer towards the health of Lowtax and the forums. I will never be rich.
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AlBorlantern Corps posted:No they're rich because they were born rich and have systemic advantages making it impossible for them to lose money Donald Trump lost a LOT of money due to sheer incompetence. He did get a lot back, but largely through borrowing, cheating, and being on TV.
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Donovan Trip posted:America killed the forums rip drat... time to donate. I have some hope that someday we liberate the poor Murricans. Kinda feel that way about Saudi's, Chinese, North Koreans, Greeks and the list goes on and on. Lots of good people suffer there for no decent reason than accidents of birth. Makes me feel both guilty and like we should do something. Sorry Lowtax. AlBorlantern Corps posted:No they're rich because they were born rich and have systemic advantages making it impossible for them to lose money Met and briefly did some work for a ludicrously wealthy American once. Had a replica of Sandringham House built in the middle of a stretch of woods. Dude would have peacocks flown to his house (I assume as the only real road he had was super sketchy and thin) so he could shoot them with a compound bow. Peacocks are not the smartest or most cunning of prey so this wasn't a game of skill. It was just killing something semi rare and beautiful because you can. One day he was teaching his son how to "hunt" like his papa. Was so glad to never see that place again. I've met some Saudi's that make that guy look like Bernie Sanders. They are really are a different species. There are exceptions of course, but most I've met either thought the poor should just work harder at best, or felt that someone must fail in order for the right people to succeed. Heard one guy actually say aloud "someone's gotta be the gazelle". By all means, praise the good ones that are nice and give but don't expect anything from the wealthy aside from what you manage to forcibly pry from their claws. People talk about passive and peaceful resistance but what good did the Occupy movement actually do? Jeez.... Im sad now. We need some Bortus and Klyden karaoke in the next episode.
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Whalley posted:you don't seem to understand the rich correct
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Red posted:Rich people in the U.S. are rich because they don’t spend their hoard of wealth, unless they need a building for their fleet of antique cars or a solid gold umbrella holder for their 1 umbrella that used to belong to JFK. You've never met a rich person have you
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Beachcomber posted:This doom and gloom is depressing the duck out of me. Take a look at the donations/patreon thread in GBS. Miracles are happening. https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3884184
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American healthcare is such Kafkan joke. It's the most American thing ever actually, it's excellent for the wealthy, and the poor have to constantly watch their backs as they try to bait and switch and play games.uXs posted:How can a hospital just refuse your insurance? Like, what the hell, how is that legal? It's the official industry of "I am altering the deal, pray I do not alter it any further". It's essentially a casino game for both sides. The house is betting you won't need as much treatment, or that they rig the system so you can't get it, and you're gambling that should you need treatment you happen to fall in the right hole at the right time as for it to count for anything. It's not even enough to have insurance in this country. You have to meet the deductible where you pay for everything (1000-3000 bucks or more ), and then most plans will pay like 80% up to another higher number, until they finally cover all of it for that year, only for it to reset next year. When people try to scare you about taxes in Europe, they conveniently do not factor in the cost of actually needing medical care or just paying copays every month. I did the math a couple years ago, at my former rate of pay at 45k per year, sure I would pay 1000 more in tax in the UK, but if I actually needed healthcare I would exceed that easily in the US. The hoodie site posted:Element: ST The Orville 
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Red posted:Donald Trump lost a LOT of money due to sheer incompetence. He did get a lot back, but largely through borrowing, cheating, and being on TV. He got it back through tax scamming his siblings out of Fred Trump's inheritance trust. The New York Times did a big expose about it that was in the news for half a day.
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Mar 13, 2019 23:49
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Son whens the show back on, next week or the week after?
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My work, which previously paid fully for a decent healthplan, is now trying to roll people over to a High Deductible Plan, and everyone was like " WtF. This is useless." One thing to keep in mind is that health insurance is expensive and crazy inflation wise its one of the main reasons wages have been stagnant. Alot of wage growth have gone into ever more lovely health insurance. America is, uh, hell of a place.
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Thundercracker posted:My work, which previously paid fully for a decent healthplan, is now trying to roll people over to a High Deductible Plan, and everyone was like " WtF. This is useless." My wife's employer tried to bribe people into doing one of these which is remarkable because they're not usually evil.
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Donovan Trip posted:You've never met a rich person have you Sadly, I have worked for super wealthy tone-deaf morons who have been busted for all kinds of things. On the plus side, I’ve been able to get corporate tickets to all kinds of things.
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My employer, a health insurance company, "helpfully" moved us over to high deductible plans a few years back. I won't say the evilly euphemistic phrase that they used to describe the plan, but yeah, it sucked because I (and just about everyone else) was perfectly fine paying $15 to go to the doctor or $75 to go to the ER, with other crap going to a $500 deductible. There are a couple of things I have come to like about the plan. The premium is smaller by quite a bit, I qualify for an HSA (pre-tax deduction for health expenses; eligible expenses are defined by the IRS), and my company not only contributes to my HSA, but it puts a bunch of its annual contribution in at the beginning of the year to keep me from getting deductiblefucked. Sounds like I'm shilling for that plan, doesn't it? Well, trust me, I'm not. This plan works for me because 1) I make a decent amount of money, 2) my company goes above and beyond what others do in order to make the plan more palatable, and 3) they will detonate the chip in my head if I say anything truly negative about glorious insurance plan. Now... if you don't work for a company that gives you a deep cut on the premium, or if you don't make much money and/or can't save anything in an HSA? Yeah, the plan is utter garbage, and the only thing you can say about it is that it's better than not having insurance at all. That's the default height of that low-rear end bar, by the way: better than nothing.
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Snow Cone Capone posted:ah gently caress we've got a week and a day's worth of health care talk left don't we Not from me. I said my piece. Now I am going to head over and buy something awful to help out the guy who owns this joint.
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Red posted:Donald Trump lost a LOT of money due to sheer incompetence. He did get a lot back, but largely through borrowing, cheating, and being on TV. Well yea, exactly. Where would a normal person be if they lost everything like he did?
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Boinks posted:Son whens the show back on, next week or the week after? Next episode is March 21
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Taear posted:Well yea, exactly. Normal people don't start with a billion dollars so they can turn themselves into a millionaire.
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Donovan Trip posted:Reading the details of lowtax getting bent over by God this year genuinely made me sad. I appreciate his honesty about what's going on because lord that is not easy stuff to talk about. Seriously, he's not getting hosed by God half so much as by the US health system. In any half-sane country, this whole ordeal would cost no more than a few thousand dollars (or latinum or quatloos or whatever they use in said hypothetical country). A dude posted:Can’t one of the rich goons just throw him a massive chunk of cash? You're assuming the existence of rich goons.
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