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I'm thinking of free experiencing my way into the German heavy line. Is there any particular reason I shouldn't unlock through to the Panzer IV H and head to the Tiger P? I figure that way I have jumping off routes to the E100, Maus, and Ferdinand open.
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Aug 14, 2015 14:42
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Well for one thing the Tiger P is bad and unpleasant.
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Aug 14, 2015 15:08
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Yay, I bought a CDC on sale and pimped it out. Unfortunately, I didn't realize I still had that BatChat crew sitting around until I had already blown 100 gold on training up my commander, but oh well. At least I realized it before I trained up the remaining crew members. I figure an all camo crew is the way to go with the first skill? I bought a vert stab, rammer and coated optics on sale too. Too bad I can't drive it right now due to work, but I'm excited to try it out in a bit.
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Aug 14, 2015 15:35
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Prav posted:Well for one thing the Tiger P is bad and unpleasant. I only managed to play the Tiger P maybe five games before I sold it and free xped to the VK4502A. What a garbage tank. No armor, poo poo mobility, poo poo damage output? Why bother.
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Aug 14, 2015 15:47
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M.C. McMic posted:Yay, I bought a CDC on sale and pimped it out. Unfortunately, I didn't realize I still had that BatChat crew sitting around until I had already blown 100 gold on training up my commander, but oh well. At least I realized it before I trained up the remaining crew members. I figure an all camo crew is the way to go with the first skill? My cdc made me realise how much I suck at the game and forced me to play a LOT better. It's a great tank and a lot of fun. Also you'll get ammo racked any time someone looks at you.
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Aug 14, 2015 16:10
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I played the tiger P as like my second t7 heavy before it got merged for no reason. It was quite decent back then. Unlike the Super Pershing the weak points aren't small enough and the rest of the armour isn't strong enough to really require aiming.
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Aug 14, 2015 16:27
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O-I Experimental confirmed as TOG killer.
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Aug 14, 2015 16:33
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M.C. McMic posted:Yay, I bought a CDC on sale and pimped it out. Unfortunately, I didn't realize I still had that BatChat crew sitting around until I had already blown 100 gold on training up my commander, but oh well. At least I realized it before I trained up the remaining crew members. I figure an all camo crew is the way to go with the first skill?
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Aug 14, 2015 16:36
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Bort Bortles posted:Wait all that poo poo is on sale? Will it still be on sale in ~3 hours?!? I totally want a CDC even if it does not get pref matchmaking. On sale all weekend. 15% off (the CDC, that is). sc0tty posted:My cdc made me realise how much I suck at the game and forced me to play a LOT better. It's a great tank and a lot of fun. That's my hope. I mainly want the CDC because a) the power/weight is great and the gun is awesome, and b) I hope it will make me better in all my other mediums because it's such a glass cannon. M.C. McMic fucked around with this message at 16:48 on Aug 14, 2015 |
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Aug 14, 2015 16:44
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Nordick posted:O-I Experimental confirmed as TOG killer. bwahahahaha what the gently caress
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Aug 14, 2015 16:48
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Missing Name posted:bwahahahaha what the gently caress It's a naval gun that they mounted in a tank. Or considering mounting in a possible tank, anyway.
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Aug 14, 2015 16:57
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M.C. McMic posted:On sale all weekend. 15% off (the CDC, that is).
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Aug 14, 2015 17:07
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Missing Name posted:bwahahahaha what the gently caress Japanese heavy tanks were supposed to be mobile coastal defense fortresses, hence the multitude of turrets and huge naval guns.
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Aug 14, 2015 17:08
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Lost my one and only game in the CDC so far. I got Siegfried Line, and honestly I'm not sure what the hell to do on that map as a medium in general now, let alone a CDC. I went out into the field from the south spawn, got spotted with my 0% camo crew and died. I still got a kill and did about 1k damage, which is pretty good considering I had no idea wtf. So, Siegfried Line... where the hell should I go in a tank with no armor?
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Aug 14, 2015 17:14
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M.C. McMic posted:Lost my one and only game in the CDC so far. I got Siegfried Line, and honestly I'm not sure what the hell to do on that map as a medium in general now, let alone a CDC. I went out into the field from the south spawn, got spotted with my 0% camo crew and died. I still got a kill and did about 1k damage, which is pretty good considering I had no idea wtf. Does the CDC have any turret/mentlet armor or is it like other French tanks where there is no armor to speak of anywhere? edit: I am by no means an expert but I have found myself being successful doing that, doesnt mean you necessarily will, so, shrug.
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Aug 14, 2015 17:25
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Bort Bortles posted:Does the CDC have any turret/mentlet armor or is it like other French tanks where there is no armor to speak of anywhere? No armor anywhere. From what I'm seeing in Tank Inspector, at best you're going to have 70mm of spaced armor if someone shoots you right next to your gun. So, any tank it's going to face is going to pen pretty much anywhere. Outside of a situation where you might be able to use view mechanics, it seems like it's best defense is its gun depression and it's ability to pop up over a hill and take a relatively accurate shot quickly while presenting a small target. In pretty much every other situation it's a large, squishy tank.
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Aug 14, 2015 17:31
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Ok, the O-I is a serious contender against the KV-2 over the throne of King poo poo of Derp Mountain. The 150mm gun is slightly less colossally inaccurate, and the shell velocity is actually pretty high. It has less pen on the HE shell, but slightly more on the regular AP shell. Gold ammo has a higher pen value too, but it's HEAT so meh. The tank itself is not as horrendously cumbersome as one might expect and has neutral steering so it can pivot in place. Gun depression is also really good so you can bloop things over hills better. Actually, with the exception of the O-Ho's frontal arc, all the tanks have good to excellent gun depression. God help me, I think I'm probably gonna start my way through this line when the patch drops. EDIT: AlmightyPants posted:What tank does the Japanese heavies go off of? Nordick fucked around with this message at 17:48 on Aug 14, 2015 |
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Aug 14, 2015 17:39
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I'm actually looking forward to Japanese heavies, despite making fun of them. Enough to consider buying the Tai-Ga-Ru.
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Aug 14, 2015 17:56
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Missing Name posted:I'm actually looking forward to Japanese heavies, despite making fun of them. See I was too and then I actually tried them and then I wasn't. They're not the worst bunch of tanks the game has ever seen but I see little reason to go down the line since they've got two weaknesses or annoyances for every one good or fun thing about them (no really i counted).
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Aug 14, 2015 18:08
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Lol, look at this tryhard scrub wanting actually good, practical tanks. Grow a pair and play some stupid novelty gimmick tanks like a real man.
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Aug 14, 2015 18:25
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lol if you're tanks aren't both :at 7:
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Aug 14, 2015 18:36
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Sweet, wargaming seems to have resurrected my EU account just to keep me off the test server. Maybe if the account got deactivated in the server split five years ago, you should use the other one.
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Aug 14, 2015 18:57
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Lynneth posted:McGavin, did you fix the bugs in your modpack yet? I went through the thread and couldn't find an updated version. Whoops, nope. It's a pretty minor bug and Locastan took FOREVER to update the mod that is causing the problem, so I've just been dealing with it. He FINALLY updated it (10 days ago, LONG after I stopped checking) so if you install my modpack and then overwrite it with the updated version of his mod, it should work. I will test it after I get home and release an updated version either tonight or Saturday, depending on whether or not anything breaks. Edit: On closer inspection he might not have fixed the bug causing the problem. I'll test it out later tonight and see if it's fixed. McGavin fucked around with this message at 19:14 on Aug 14, 2015 |
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Aug 14, 2015 19:05
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Both the T-34-85M and T-54 First Prototype are on sale and I am interested in getting a Russian Medium premium. I have heard both are good. What do you goons who are good at this game recommend? Do either of them have pref matchmaking? edit: aaaaag I am tempted to drop the 20k free XP it would take to get my 50 120 commander to 100% on 6th Sense  Should I have Clutch Braking on my T110E5 crew? Or the T-54?edit2: On French crews when choosing to take the Commander skill "Recon" or the radioman skill "Situational Awareness", I have heard that Situational Awareness gives a better bonus that Recon....am I crazy? edit3: Is there a wiki or something I could be reading instead of inundating this thread with basic questions? AAAAA! Real Muenster fucked around with this message at 19:40 on Aug 14, 2015 |
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Aug 14, 2015 19:24
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Okay, so I'm slowly getting used to the IS (though lord help me 60% of my games seem to be tier 9 matches and bouncing ACPR off the side for a tank is infuriating). I have a rammer, but what other equipment is must-have on this tank?
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Aug 14, 2015 19:36
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Bort Bortles posted:Both the T-34-85M and T-54 First Prototype are on sale and I am interested in getting a Russian Medium premium. I have heard both are good. What do you goons who are good at this game recommend? Do either of them have pref matchmaking? Neither have pref matchmaking. If you do tier eight strongholds, get the T-54 Mod 1. If not, wait for the Rudy to go on sale again. Please don't convert free xp to crew xp. Just buy an FCM. Look at the skills, the descriptions will tell you the radioman skill is 3% and the commander skill 2%. The wiki is worthless. Sorry.
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Aug 14, 2015 19:39
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Free xping up to sixth sense kinda owns though
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Aug 14, 2015 19:45
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Hellsau posted:Neither have pref matchmaking. If you do tier eight strongholds, get the T-54 Mod 1. If not, wait for the Rudy to go on sale again. Regarding the skills, I asked because I dont see any numbers on the skill    Other skills question: Is "Clutch Braking" good in general, bad in general? Is it more useful on certain tanks? e.g. should i have it on the T110E5, 13 90, or both (as long as Smooth Ride is already complete, of course). On the 13 90 I think I would rather just keep camo, but camo is at 95% so swapping that for Clutch Braking now while the crew reset is discounted sounds appealing.
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Aug 14, 2015 19:46
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Clutch Braking is almost as good as Smooth Ride as far as driver skills go. It is more useful for heavies and TDs and I'd rather have camo on lights, but it's still really good.
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Aug 14, 2015 19:54
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Salean posted:Free xping up to sixth sense kinda owns though McGavin posted:Clutch Braking is almost as good as Smooth Ride as far as driver skills go. It is more useful for heavies and TDs and I'd rather have camo on lights, but it's still really good.
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I like clutch breaking a lot for almost any heavy tank that can pivot turn and of course TDs. I use it on the Pz1C too so it can take corners better but on a tier 3 pubstomper skills don't matter much I guess. For the 13 90 I personally opted for Smooth Ride because I wanted better straight line speed.
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So I wasn't doing so great in the SU-152, because I like to charge in as a frontline and get blown up. It takes a while for me to stop doing this every time I get a new tank. I've tried being a sniper with the derp gun. It's loving hilarious. Top tier, bottom tier it doesn't matter. Shooting at squishy mediums or heavily armoured heavies? Who cares. Your opponent has spent five minutes carefully angling their hull for maximum protection? Punish them. Now sure, targets a few hundred meters out have a good chance of dodging your shell by sitting still, but that just makes the hits all the better. KV-2: TD edition. Latest match:   Highlight was penetrating the T26E4 in the side for 1050 damage. This was a really good match to get that 5x bonus on, now 10k closer to the ISU! 1.5x crew exp for some mission as well. Question: Does anyone use the "top" gun on the SU-152? Researched them for ISU, but haven't tried them.
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I'm already wishing for 6th Sense on the CDC and I've only played 4 games. It's pretty invaluable on light and medium tanks. My plan for most mediums (with 4 crew members) is the following: Camo Camo Camo Camo Then: 6th Sense / Camo Camo / Snap Shot Camo / Smooth Ride Camo / Sit Awareness Then: 6th Sense / BIA / Camo Camo / BIA / Snap Shot Camo / BIA / Smooth Ride Camo / BIA / Sit Awareness Not sure if it's sensible to do that much retraining or not.
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Bleremiah posted:Question: Does anyone use the "top" gun on the SU-152? Researched them for ISU, but haven't tried them. If I'm remembering correctly, the top 122 mm has the best DPM in the game and will chew through anything Tier 7 or under. The drawback is that 175 mm of pen is a bit anemic when facing Tier 8 or 9 tanks with significant amounts of armour. It also requires you to be more passive and remain hidden to let your DPM work, whereas the 152 mm can let the SU-152 play more like an assault gun.
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Aug 14, 2015 20:20
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3:1 trading with 390 alpha and a ridiculous ROF is pretty funny too.
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Aug 14, 2015 20:21
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McGavin posted:If I'm remembering correctly, the top 122 mm has the best DPM in the game and will chew through anything Tier 7 or under. The drawback is that 175 mm of pen is a bit anemic when facing Tier 8 or 9 tanks with significant amounts of armour. It also requires you to be more passive and remain hidden to let your DPM work, whereas the 152 mm can let the SU-152 play more like an assault gun. The SU-152 is a pretty bad platform for a quick reload gun. The ISU-122 is a lot better on that front, it's got the exact gun stats.
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Prav posted:3:1 trading with 390 alpha and a ridiculous ROF is pretty funny too. Pretty much, right until you come across an E 75 or VK 4502B.
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Aug 14, 2015 20:26
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Bort Bortles posted:Regarding the skills, I asked because I dont see any numbers on the skill There's a mod somewhere out there that changes the skill text to be much more informative. Gives you per-point improvements and cumulative improvements at 100%. You can find it in a bunch of different mod packs and by itself on the official forums.
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Aug 14, 2015 20:28
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I could have sworn that I saw the actual percentages in the skill description. I guess I had that mod?
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There's also a mod that gives you the full stat readout for a tank when you hover over it in the carousel - the mobility, DPM etc stats (that otherwise are "exclusive" to certain classes" in addition to stuff like gun depression and elevation. Another thing that really should just be in the game by default and that makes me hate all those idiots who say that all mods should be banned.
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