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you idiots, you loving morons, clearly daenerys went super saiyan over the death of her friends raising her power level exponentially which carried over through her psychic link to her dragon, increasing his dodge rating and dps high enough to tank all those arrows so that he could kill the boats faster than they could kill him
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May 13, 2019 04:59
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I love it when people say: “it’s hard to end a story” It’s not if you’re a good writer
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May 13, 2019 04:59
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Also what the gently caress I think Dany in that finale preview has more Dothraki and Unsullied then when she started It's like Winterfell never loving happened
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May 13, 2019 04:59
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Jst0rm posted:cersei was kind of correct the whole time. They didnt need her armies to defeat the white walkers. She didn't even really betray them. All they wanted when they went to the negotiation was for her to not attack them while they fought the zombie army, and she didn't. Granted that's because the Long Night wasn't that long after all but still.
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May 13, 2019 05:00
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Majorian posted:I feel like you have maybe the worst possible rubric for what constitutes "winning." Cersei will not be remembered fondly by the survivors of Westeros. Cersei offered royal protection to the good people of King's Landing and died among them as foreign hordes sacked the city.
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May 13, 2019 05:00
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I just want to state again they had Jaime's arc lead all the way back to Cersei. An arc that should have ended with him killing her. And they both died to a lame CGI building.
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May 13, 2019 05:01
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LinYutang posted:Cersei offered royal protection to the good people of King's Landing and died among them as foreign hordes sacked the city. There's literally no one left alive to attest to that. She helped make it inevitable that no one would be left alive.
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May 13, 2019 05:01
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The REAL Goobusters posted:I love it when people say: “it’s hard to end a story” Ever notice how often Shakespeare plays end with everyone dying in a giant pile?
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May 13, 2019 05:02
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Ben Nerevarine posted:Did I miss a curt nod from Cersei, or did the bells start ringing for no reason? Who gave the order? Jaime rang the bells after he couldn’t get into the Red Keep. Then he went to the boat and took the secret path up the other direction.
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May 13, 2019 05:02
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Majorian posted:There's literally no one left alive to attest to that. She helped make it inevitable that no one would be left alive. I think it is safe to say some of the commoners are still alive.
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May 13, 2019 05:03
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Got to say I was shocked to come on here and see the severe negativity. I thought that episode was phenomenal, the most incredible spectacle ever in a TV show. It was amazing. And character-wise it was great. I seriously don’t understand why you’ve been watching GOT for 8 seasons if you didn’t like this ep. This was as Game of Thrones as it gets. Dany’s turn has been clearly signposted from the beginning of the show. All her talk about equality and breaking the wheel has always been 100% bullshit. She might like that stuff in the abstract but it’s always come behind her absolute power and sel-adulation. In Westeros she’s lost so much that she loves and worst of all, the people refuse to love her. This was always coming. Jamie failing to redeem himself is a sad but fitting end. Him and Cersei dying as their world literally collapses around them was a great end. Cleganebowl was as good as we could have hoped (and I loved Qyburn getting merked), and it was great to see Arya regain her humanity in the face of the incredible horror of war.
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May 13, 2019 05:03
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Macrame_God posted:I agree. I would have preferred a bit more action, but it was still a satisfying conclusion for their conflict. I feel like there's a medium middle that was completely over-shot, where you can have big battles but important folks die, and face-heel turns, but they're just ignoring the details that used to matter, and it's gutted a lot of the impact And what really is making it hard is that somehow budget constraints mean you can't have full seasons, or direwolfs getting petted. It's a cop out. HBO is too broke to land any series properly apparently.
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May 13, 2019 05:03
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I think the soldiers all just started screaming it after they realized they had 0 chance of winning.
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May 13, 2019 05:03
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TyrantWD posted:Drogo promised to rape and murder all of Westeros for her in season 1, and she was distraught that he ever got the chance to do that, and burnt the rape survivor alive. The next time she interacts with anyone new, she threatens to burn their city to the ground. Stuff like executing Varys or the Tarlys I’m ok with. Anyone else would have done the same, but if you have a dragon why not use them for executions. Dany has been pretty much full on mad queen for most of the time we have known her, and it took her advisors begging her to not make the worst possible decision at every point to reign her in. See i think yes he said that and she looked all pleased but I think she's supposed to be like a young naive women/ girl at that point in the show, who believes she can control Drogo and probably thinks by that point she can not have him go on his pillage spree. Because say what you want about her but i genuinely think her character has been portrayed as someone who wouldnt abide by rape of innocents (well up to this last episode), just look how she reacts to slavery etc. But i dont think from that scene you're supposed to think "oh yea Dany is cool with loads of people being raped", it's more she wants that throne and Drogo is her wagon she'll hitch too till she's over there and can reign him in to do her bidding. And eh there's no denying she's a tyrant and she threatens to burn their city but I think that's her just threatening because she knows she has the power there. At that point in the show i really dont think she'd have pulled a King's Landing because she wouldnt have abided killing innocents like that. Would she have burnt every solider alive though? Quite possibly. But that's war and conquest so it's kind of ok?
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May 13, 2019 05:03
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I can't wait for all the angry op-eds from the marysue, jezebel, vox, etc tomorrow this episode is going to be the gift that keeps on giving.
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May 13, 2019 05:03
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Raccooon posted:I think it is safe to say some of the commoners are still alive. None that got "sanctuary" in the Red Keep.
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May 13, 2019 05:04
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Alec Eiffel posted:If anything, this episode made me like Dany more. As a character, yes. This is the first thing she's done in a long time that's been interesting for the audience.
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May 13, 2019 05:04
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pmchem posted:cersei was proven right in her choices and died a heroic figure defending the city from an enemy that would not accept surrender This is correct, and properly done it would've been in keeping with the themes of the books, but they botched it and twisted drat near every character's development into pretzels to contrive tension and stakes. You hate to see it.
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May 13, 2019 05:04
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The Lannister line is just dead now right? Unless Tyrion learns to keep his head down and make for Casterly Rock ( no, he is too stupid)
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May 13, 2019 05:04
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I’m pretty sure that if you have to scale or breach the walls you’re legally allowed to sack the city, so while Dany was unmerciful she was within her right as sovereign.
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May 13, 2019 05:04
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I'm open to being convinced that Dany's turn works better than I'm giving credit, and it's possible I've just forgotten earlier parts of the show-- To that end, can anyone actually list prior examples of her killing people who didn't somehow earn it? Even situations where she wanted to but was convinced to take a lighter approach?
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May 13, 2019 05:04
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SnatchRabbit posted:I can't wait for all the angry op-eds from the marysue, jezebel, vox, etc tomorrow this episode is going to be the gift that keeps on giving. Oh my God I didn't think of it on that level. I was thrilled just to have all the YAS KWEEN dipshits sad. You've made my evening.
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Raccooon posted:I think it is safe to say some of the commoners are still alive. I think you're forgetting that the bells never rang, and to say they did... 
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The REAL Goobusters posted:I love it when people say: “it’s hard to end a story” They had a good writer. He got fat and lazy and stopped writing books quite some time ago.
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TulliusCicero posted:The Lannister line is just dead now right? Unless Tyrion learns to keep his head down and make for Cssterly Rock ( Probably some uncles and aunts etc around, there's supposed to be a lot of cousins.
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May 13, 2019 05:05
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TulliusCicero posted:The Lannister line is just dead now right? Unless Tyrion learns to keep his head down and make for Cssterly Rock ( Myrcella's secretly alive, the remaining Sand Snakes did a Clegane zombifying thing to her.
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May 13, 2019 05:05
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Just Chamber posted:See i think yes he said that and she looked all pleased but I think she's supposed to be like a young naive women/ girl at that point in the show, who believes she can control Drogo and probably thinks by that point she can not have him go on his pillage spree. Because say what you want about her but i genuinely think her character has been portrayed as someone who wouldnt abide by rape of innocents (well up to this last episode), just look how she reacts to slavery etc. But i dont think from that scene you're supposed to think "oh yea Dany is cool with loads of people being raped", it's more she wants that throne and Drogo is her wagon she'll hitch too till she's over there and can reign him in to do her bidding. She literally stops the Dothraki from raping people. Drogo kills a guy over it.
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May 13, 2019 05:05
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It was a quality episode, folks. I said I was disappointed when the Night King fell in episode three and the only justification would be for the big-bad to be Dany. And Dany just proved she was a big bad. Haters gonna hate.
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May 13, 2019 05:06
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Comrade Fakename posted:Got to say I was shocked to come on here and see the severe negativity. I thought that episode was phenomenal, the most incredible spectacle ever in a TV show. It was amazing. And character-wise it was great. I seriously don’t understand why you’ve been watching GOT for 8 seasons if you didn’t like this ep. This was as Game of Thrones as it gets. Agree on this, except maybe for Jaime if only because it felt so rushed for him to basically fall for Brienne and then go right back to Cersei and inevitable death within the span of one episode. It just felt too rushed- and Jaime's callousness toward Brienne was not in keeping with how much he had apparently grown to respect and care for her.
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May 13, 2019 05:06
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Slowpoke! posted:They had a good writer. He got fat and lazy and stopped writing books quite some time ago. His publishers just wouldn't print his next two books, which were planned to be entirely about Daeny's diarrhea.
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May 13, 2019 05:06
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TulliusCicero posted:So is Dany just not going to sit on the throne? Because I'm pretty sure she blew it up, along with most of the Red Keep and KL Arya gonna kill dany cause she still has to shut dome green eyes according to the fire lady and prophecies matter on this show...sometimes
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May 13, 2019 05:07
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Raccooon posted:She literally stops the Dothraki from raping people. Drogo kills a guy over it. Yes, but you see, when a Targ is born, the gods flip a coin. You see. See how that works. The flip of a coin.
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May 13, 2019 05:07
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Raccooon posted:She literally stops the Dothraki from raping people. Drogo kills a guy over it. No, Drogo suggests the guy go rape *another* woman, and jokes about how Dany being all butthurt is because the "Stallion Who Will Mount the World" inside her is making her so.
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May 13, 2019 05:07
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Bananasaurus Rex posted:Arya gonna kill dany cause she still has to shut dome green eyes according to the fire lady and prophecies matter on this show...sometimes She rides off on a pale horse
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May 13, 2019 05:07
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Scoss posted:I'm open to being convinced that Dany's turn works better than I'm giving credit, and it's possible I've just forgotten earlier parts of the show-- In Mereen, when Barristan Selmy was killed by a Harpy, she had the heads of all noble families rounded up and shoved a random one to her dragon, who set him on fire and ate him alive. She then said she didn't know who was guilty or innocent, and that maybe she should let her dragons decide.
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May 13, 2019 05:07
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Loved the episode. My only problem from a long term storytelling standpoint is that one person riding one dragon was enough to take down all of King's Landing. Daenerys didn't even need any soldiers to do anything. The dragon took out the entire iron fleet, all of the guards along the city walls, the entire Red Keep... Like there is this whole story of Daenerys building up the army, when she could have just stormed the castle with the 3 dragons before they knew about them and built the huge crossbows. Of course, that doesn't make as interesting of a show. But wasn't Tyrion basically saying that Danny couldn't storm the castle like she wanted to a couple seasons ago?
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May 13, 2019 05:08
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Midgetskydiver posted:Agree on this, except maybe for Jaime if only because it felt so rushed for him to basically fall for Brienne and then go right back to Cersei and inevitable death within the span of one episode. It just felt too rushed- and Jaime's callousness toward Brienne was not in keeping with how much he had apparently grown to respect and care for her. Even though the 6 episodes have about as much screen time as 10 there isn't the time for things to sink in. 10 Episodes would have really improved the pacing. Astro7x posted:Loved the episode. The dragons couldn't storm the city, they can only destroy it.
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May 13, 2019 05:08
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Scoss posted:I'm open to being convinced that Dany's turn works better than I'm giving credit, and it's possible I've just forgotten earlier parts of the show-- She did crucify a bunch of slaver dudes, then fed the nobles of Merreen to dragons after a plot by them killed Selmy, who was arguably the closest thing to a father she had, killed a bunch of Dothraki etc. She has a habit quite early on of burning people she doesn't like. Killing innocent civilians is something she has never done though, and it is insanely stupid a jump to have her just incinerate KL, especially when she had already won so handedly.
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Scoss posted:I'm open to being convinced that Dany's turn works better than I'm giving credit, and it's possible I've just forgotten earlier parts of the show-- I think in the books they spend a lot more time in Slaver’s Bay and she does some pretty awful poo poo, but it’s been so long I don’t remember specific examples. Nothing like this though. I thought for sure she was just going to burn down the castle when she took off. It was pretty heavy handed and I’m sure Dany is dead next episode and this was the set up to soften the blow.
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