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Dang It Bhabhi!
May 27, 2004

What’s the “virtual” signal chain? TS -> Plexi kind of thing?

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The Leck
Feb 27, 2001

Agreed posted:

How do you do fellow guitar nerds, Pro Audio Star is blowing out brand new Boss RE-2 and RE-202 pedals, so if you got the cash go get a RE-2 for $128 or a RE-202 for $225, that's actually cheap enough that you can probably get it back second hand minus some hassle if you just want to try the thing for a bit. I'm trying to pass the word around so these move the gently caress out of stock before my pedal related brain problems tell me my commitment to the RE-2 is stupid and I must have the RE-202. I do not must have it, brain, gently caress you, it is awesome though, drat, do I must have it? I hope they run out soon
I'm going to try it and see about giving delay another try. I've never really gotten along with it, but so many people list it as THE most important effect that I feel I must be missing something.

Dr. Faustus
Feb 18, 2001

Grimey Drawer

Dang It Bhabhi! posted:

What’s the “virtual” signal chain? TS -> Plexi kind of thing?
In this case, I wanted amp gain so I went with the "modded JCM800" vibe in the super versatile Cameron Atomica (High). Play a ToneZone into that with the gain up and it's just really expressive. It lets you say stuff. I think that old preset still uses the first York Audio Celestion cab IRs I bought from this pack: https://www.yorkaudio.co/product-page/mrsh-412-m25. God I have SO MANY IRs. Jeeez.

I like the Dyna-Cabs a lot more, though. All my new presets use them.

The live show has one super heavy grindy tone so that's a 5150.
All the 80's rock stuff is the Atomica, with any extra solo sustain coming from a model of on OCD on Hi with the Drive way down and the level way up.
Any more pop-friendly stuff comes from a Dr. Z.
Super clean stuff comes from a Band Master
Anything vintage and woofy is a JTM45
Barracuda is a Hiwatt.
Anything very bluesy could be a Super, a Deluxe, a Bassman, or a Twin. It depends.
I have an acoustic IR that turns my bridge humbucker into my Breedlove.
It's like a superpower. It sounds so good.

fullroundaction
Apr 20, 2007

Drink beer every day

Dr. Faustus posted:

This lady Friday Night recorded us directly between the mains so she got a weird doubling effect. Sounds very fat. Played for three hours and had a great time. We haven't had a bad crowd yet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmMhaMUpIq0

Heck yeah, y'all sound awesome!

Pondex
Jul 8, 2014

Anyone read that new(-ish) Berklee guitar-book? Kim Perlaks Berklee Guitar Theory.
I'm curious about how it compares to the Leavitt Modern Method-book.

AndrewP
Apr 21, 2010

Pondex posted:

Anyone read that new(-ish) Berklee guitar-book? Kim Perlaks Berklee Guitar Theory.
I'm curious about how it compares to the Leavitt Modern Method-book.

Can't be any drier!

I'm also curious, though. I want to improve but I don't even know what I want to improve.

Plank Walker
Aug 11, 2005

Pondex posted:

Anyone read that new(-ish) Berklee guitar-book? Kim Perlaks Berklee Guitar Theory.
I'm curious about how it compares to the Leavitt Modern Method-book.

I mean it's a theory book compared to a method book, so I'm assuming it would supplement it? Working through Leavitt's book you learn a bunch of chords, scale shapes, and triad shapes and get really good at transitioning through them, but not much explanation on what or why you're doing it. A theory book would probably explain more about the function of these chords/notes/scales and less on drilling in the physical ability to play them.

duodenum
Sep 18, 2005

AndrewP posted:

Can't be any drier!

I'm also curious, though. I want to improve but I don't even know what I want to improve.

Learn songs that you love.

Agreed
Dec 30, 2003

The price of meat has just gone up, and your old lady has just gone down

All the cheap RE-2s are gone, and they upped the price on the RE-202 from $225 to like $299 so that's done-zo too. Hope the whole thing wasn't some kind of farce, I want mah pedal ProAudioStar, better not be dealing with a wily bait n' switch merchant!

Edit: Nope no problems, they're shipping the RE-2 this AM and have been communicative! Rad!

also they kind of offered me the 202 at the sale price and I kind of said yes, gently caress I gotta sell some gear now. FOMO demon may just be a garden variety obsession and/or compulsion, uh, either way I will compare them when they arrive and probably make a video, why not

Agreed fucked around with this message at 18:38 on Jun 24, 2024

AndrewP
Apr 21, 2010

duodenum posted:

Learn songs that you love.

I probably should do this more. I almost never sit down and try to learn an existing song, usually just loving around with chord progression or noodling to backing tracks. But trying to nail Panama has been a fun changeup recently.

insane clown pussy
Jun 20, 2023

Pondex posted:

Anyone read that new(-ish) Berklee guitar-book? Kim Perlaks Berklee Guitar Theory.
I'm curious about how it compares to the Leavitt Modern Method-book.

with just a little practice you too can sound like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voo02ulSuBA&t=151s

Modal Auxiliary
Jan 14, 2005

insane clown pussy posted:

with just a little practice you too can sound like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voo02ulSuBA&t=151s

Omg the absolutely pulverizing dad-ness of it all :lol:

Dang It Bhabhi!
May 27, 2004

New American Jackson with what appears to be either a stain/poly mistake? I feel like I see stuff like this way more often on Corona-made Fenders than on Squiers. Not sending it back, though. I don’t give a poo poo but it does confirm my biases towards American-made Fenders.

ethanol
Jul 13, 2007



Honestly any truly hand made instrument will usually have some sort of very minor finish defect somewhere

fullroundaction
Apr 20, 2007

Drink beer every day
I spent the weekend finally learning/practicing major/minor triad inversions and I don't know why I didn't do this a long time ago.

Amazing that you can go like 25+ years playing an instrument without really learning how to "play chords".

Armacham
Mar 3, 2007

Then brothers in war, to the skirmish must we hence! Shall we hence?

fullroundaction posted:

I spent the weekend finally learning/practicing major/minor triad inversions and I don't know why I didn't do this a long time ago.

Amazing that you can go like 25+ years playing an instrument without really learning how to "play chords".

What resources did you use?

fullroundaction
Apr 20, 2007

Drink beer every day

Armacham posted:

What resources did you use?

Just this image. I'm sure there are better resources I just happened to see this while scrolling Facebook and went "huh that doesn't look too bad".

TEMPLE GRANDIN OS
Dec 10, 2003

...blyat
looking at that started to make sense so I opened reverb to make sure I forget

Agreed
Dec 30, 2003

The price of meat has just gone up, and your old lady has just gone down

Yoinking that sheet, thank you

Plank Walker
Aug 11, 2005

fullroundaction posted:

Just this image. I'm sure there are better resources I just happened to see this while scrolling Facebook and went "huh that doesn't look too bad".



One of the things I found really useful from the Berklee method book was the chord etudes really drill the physical shapes and switching around on them at tempo. Like, I can look at chord charts all day and "get" them, but having some pieces to play where you're chaining 3-4 of them together and adding and removing extensions takes you from knowing the triads to being able to use them at will.

I'm sure there are other good resources out there as well, just saying it's good to complement the charts with some songs and exercises.

Wowporn
May 31, 2012

HarumphHarumphHarumph
Can someone confirm what you would consider a 44x55x to be? G sharp Augmented with a 4 tossed in?

AndrewP
Apr 21, 2010

fullroundaction posted:

Just this image. I'm sure there are better resources I just happened to see this while scrolling Facebook and went "huh that doesn't look too bad".



I was just trying these out and it’s cool how they connect with the CAGED shapes. I guess I do these all the time, I just don’t recognize that I’m doing “inversion 2” for instance.

I should start paying more attention to exactly what I’m playing

ethanol
Jul 13, 2007



personally i learned 7 positions of the major scale from my jazz teacher who always said if you learn one position it should be 1st position, or where the root is on the low E. takes a lot of practice to move between positions

https://www.fretjam.com/major-scale-positions.html

dunno if you called that caged or not. it works for me. every cheat sheet fits and makes more sense if you commit to knowing the whole scale. you can practice going up the scale in triads instead of straight up and down. and it's fun to see where the chord shapes fit into it.

Agreed
Dec 30, 2003

The price of meat has just gone up, and your old lady has just gone down

AndrewP posted:

I was just trying these out and it’s cool how they connect with the CAGED shapes. I guess I do these all the time, I just don’t recognize that I’m doing “inversion 2” for instance.

I should start paying more attention to exactly what I’m playing

Same, I constantly move between these very positions because it Sounds Cool and it occurs to me I really should study more music theory, it was really useful learning what I did back in college

Drunk Driver Dad
Feb 18, 2005

ethanol posted:

personally i learned 7 positions of the major scale from my jazz teacher who always said if you learn one position it should be 1st position, or where the root is on the low E. takes a lot of practice to move between positions

https://www.fretjam.com/major-scale-positions.html

dunno if you called that caged or not. it works for me. every cheat sheet fits and makes more sense if you commit to knowing the whole scale. you can practice going up the scale in triads instead of straight up and down. and it's fun to see where the chord shapes fit into it.

There's so many of these kinds of things I never know where to start or what to add in or when. I am doing online lessons with this guy, he's just got me memorizing major/minor/diminished triads on the 2nd,3rd and 4th strings and practicing them right now. He actually told me to stop memorizing fretboard notes which kind of annoyed me because I just want to have that skill. He's kind of hard to communicate with so I've been thinking of possibly finding another teacher or even just working on a lot of this kind of stuff on my own for a while.

landgrabber
Sep 13, 2015

today in weirdly good tones: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rBPYR1m0q4

this dude covering MakeDamnSure by taking back sunday with what appears to be a filtertron driven to hell??? and it actually sounds kinda awesome

PathAsc
Nov 15, 2011

Hail SS-18 Satan may he cleanse us with nuclear fire

PISS TAPE IS REAL

Put that into my veins directly

landgrabber
Sep 13, 2015

PathAsc posted:

Put that into my veins directly

as if that song needed to be any more addictive!!

field balm
Feb 5, 2012

I saw them at a festival lately and their new stuff is such boring aor crap it doesn't make any sense 😭 they nailed that track and cute without the e though lol. side note ive been kicking around the idea for an aussie cover of that song based around the dad joke of cute without the c forever.
filtertrons in a tele seems like a sick choice tbh

ethanol
Jul 13, 2007



Drunk Driver Dad posted:

There's so many of these kinds of things I never know where to start or what to add in or when. I am doing online lessons with this guy, he's just got me memorizing major/minor/diminished triads on the 2nd,3rd and 4th strings and practicing them right now. He actually told me to stop memorizing fretboard notes which kind of annoyed me because I just want to have that skill. He's kind of hard to communicate with so I've been thinking of possibly finding another teacher or even just working on a lot of this kind of stuff on my own for a while.

i def recommend anyone begin by learning that first position in the diagram there. This is sort of intended for people who have a little bit of intro to guitar already though. like you know the open string c major scale and can play some chords already.

you'll get 2 octaves of major scale out of the first position. anchor your middle finger as the root like diagram shows. i never used fret jam but it seems to follow what I was taught. then you can slide up and down into any key. so that's less forcing the student to memorize the fretboard at a rate that is inhuman.

after 1st position i highly recommend 5th and 6th positions because they correlate well to dominate and minor scales in popular music.

learning just one position should take quite a while. three positions is definitely doable. becoming fluid on all 7 positions can take indefinite amounts of time. As in it never really stops and i'm still learning many years later.

I have recorded the basic practice runs for 1st position I was taught for this before if you're interested.

ethanol fucked around with this message at 12:56 on Jun 25, 2024

Baron von Eevl
Jan 24, 2005

WHITE NOISE
GENERATOR

🔊😴

Wowporn posted:

Can someone confirm what you would consider a 44x55x to be? G sharp Augmented with a 4 tossed in?

Depends on context but if I made that shape and wanted to write a song around it I'd probably build it as a C#min major 7, second inversion.

edit also again depending on context but if I did have an augmented chord between g and a I'd probably call it Ab instead of G# to avoid the D## and the B#

Baron von Eevl fucked around with this message at 12:56 on Jun 25, 2024

gregday
May 23, 2003



https://reverb.com/item/72839244-1973-gibson-les-paul-custom-electric-guitar-w-glass-display-case-one-of-a-kind

Spanish Manlove
Aug 31, 2008

HAILGAYSATAN
'63 Gibson Chernobyl

AndrewP
Apr 21, 2010

landgrabber posted:

this dude covering MakeDamnSure by taking back sunday with what appears to be a filtertron driven to hell??? and it actually sounds kinda awesome

I miss when guitar rock was mainstream. wonder if it will ever make a comeback.


ethanol posted:

i def recommend anyone begin by learning that first position in the diagram there. This is sort of intended for people who have a little bit of intro to guitar already though. like you know the open string c major scale and can play some chords already.

you'll get 2 octaves of major scale out of the first position. anchor your middle finger as the root like diagram shows. i never used fret jam but it seems to follow what I was taught. then you can slide up and down into any key. so that's less forcing the student to memorize the fretboard at a rate that is inhuman.

after 1st position i highly recommend 5th and 6th positions because they correlate well to dominate and minor scales in popular music.


this is definitely not CAGED as I understand it, but it's probably better than CAGED.

CAGED for me is just a way make chords up and down the neck. like you have your basic power chords (literally just the "E" shape), but you also can use these other shapes similarly and they have different voicings. definitely useful but I'm not sure it helped me understand the fretboard any better.

gregday
May 23, 2003


insane clown pussy
Jun 20, 2023


quote:

All the work was done expertly

Modal Auxiliary
Jan 14, 2005

AndrewP posted:

I miss when guitar rock was mainstream. wonder if it will ever make a comeback.

Tim Henson and his crew are definitely passing the shred torch to a new generation, guitar solos are gonna be back on the menu soon imo

landgrabber
Sep 13, 2015

AndrewP posted:

I miss when guitar rock was mainstream. wonder if it will ever make a comeback.


Modal Auxiliary posted:

Tim Henson and his crew are definitely passing the shred torch to a new generation, guitar solos are gonna be back on the menu soon imo

one of the things i notice-- because i'm one of these kids-- is that the same bands, from the mid-2000s rock music end of history (the last major/mainstream bands to break through) still keep getting new fans. lots of teenagers still love blink, weezer, you'll get a nirvana fan every once in a while, paramore, and of course the mcr/fob/patd trinity. which, you know, say what you want about it, but MCR is shreddy as hell, and despite some aesthetic melodrama, surprisingly 80s-- there's brian may influence all over black parade, and two guitars playing in harmony with each other.

in a lot of cases, those were the last bands that really broke through and got radioplay, as clearchannel/iheartradio became more and more powerful. and a lot of other bands fell off, i think (including my beloved jimmy eat world) because they weren't reliable hook writers. MakeDamnSure feels so perfect because the guitars are so loud, for sure-- but listen to the vocal melodies and the lyrics and call and response vibe through a lot of it. a LOT of that song is just hooks.

but the kids still like rock music. and i can tell because on the independent level, there're people roughly my age (i'm 22) doing poo poo that's so influenced by rock music and so good. there's been the never ending parade of emo bands as it keeps going through waves. the girls in Momma (see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1maB9SVrtk) are like, maybe my age, maybe a year or two older, and clearly obsessed with stuff like veruca salt, garbage, nirvana, hole, weezer, ivy(!), and a ton of different pop music.

i guess this doesn't really answer the question, but like, i for sure see an audience for it and i see a lot of bands making it. the only thing i don't see is the support of a giant, exploitative major industry machine, or radio. which no one's listening to anyway.

Verman
Jul 4, 2005
Third time is a charm right?

field balm posted:

I saw them at a festival lately and their new stuff is such boring aor crap it doesn't make any sense 😭 they nailed that track and cute without the e though lol. side note ive been kicking around the idea for an aussie cover of that song based around the dad joke of cute without the c forever.
filtertrons in a tele seems like a sick choice tbh

I saw them a year or two ago with third eye blind and while the band was good, the singer was awful. He didn't seem physically fit enough to keep up with the tempo of the music and was taking a lot of strategic breaks to avoid difficult (high) parts where he was out of breath or couldn't there. It was so disappointing. Third eye blind though, fantastic. They sounded great and had amazing stage presence.

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landgrabber
Sep 13, 2015

and honestly one thing that i really hope happens is that people become less focused on music that's new, historically, as in, came out this year, and more fixated on music that's new to them.

i feel like a boomer saying this and it's not like my tastes are crazy diverse (blame my neurodivergent skull for needing major key distortion inside of it), but like, we have the entire loving internet here. almost all of the music from almost all points in time, and in a lot of cases, people like us have already made reddit posts going "i like this, what should i listen to?" for you, yourself, to go read and use to follow the breadcrumb trail. it's like, the littlest bit of effort for finding new-to-you rock music that's absolutely fantastic goes such a long way.

and since i mentioned that, here's one of my favorite little secret albums-- Happiness Hours by The Sidekicks came out in 2018 and didn't get too much attention, which was really unfortunate. imagine a mix of modern baseball, and the shins. sounds infuriating and annoying, right? but imagine the best possible version of that. actually sounds pretty good, right? that's what this album is. and there's surprisingly neat, simple guitar work between the two guitars that interplays really well. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euRnkYH7Pe0

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