Islam is the Light: Azerbaijan Paradox Mega-LP

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ATribeCalledKvetch: Nov 5, 2010; I do hate myself, but it has nothing to do with being Jewish.

1)Yes.
2)No.
3)EDIT: Yes, woops.
4)Yes.
5)Yes.

EDIT: I realized this is massively unnecessary, size-wise.

ATribeCalledKvetch fucked around with this message at 19:47 on Aug 20, 2011

# ? Aug 20, 2011 19:17

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Rogue0071: Dec 8, 2009; Grey Hunter's next target.

Gregoriev posted:

Yes.

No.

Yes.

Yes.

Is that a yes vote for #3 or an abstention?

# ? Aug 20, 2011 19:18

Hutter: Feb 16, 2011; It's been giving me nightmares.

1: No
2: Yes
3: Yes
4: Yes
5: No

# ? Aug 20, 2011 19:22

Ionnracht: Jun 1, 2011

1)No
2)Yes
3)Yes
4)Yes
5)Yes

# ? Aug 20, 2011 19:31

Reveilled: Apr 19, 2007; Take up your rifles

YeOldeButchere posted:

Eh, not quite. Having some large animals means there's a chance some of them can be domesticated for labor or war, both of which are huge advantages for whoever is around to domesticate them. For example, the Great Plains were never settled by Native American farmers despite knowledge of agriculture existing in the American Southeast and the presence of crops like corn (borrowed from Mexico) which are fairly well suited for the area. One of the main reasons is that there were no animals like horses or oxen to pull plows, so all farmwork was done by hand, which is impossible in the relatively hard topsoils of the Great Plains.

Since agriculture is a, if not the, cornerstone of advanced civilizations, not having farm animals is a gigantic drawback that pretty much ensures you'll stay in the stone age.

Isn't the soil in the Great plains so hard that it was unfarmable until the mid-19th century, hence why american settlers completely ignored it on their way to the west coast? I think it was even referred to as the "great american desert" in the late 18th and early 19th century because it was unfarmable.

Still, more serious agricultural civilizations could have developed in other areas; the mississippi mound civilization might have developed much faster, along with the Aztecs and the east coast natives.

I'd be more interested in an America where horses didn't die out than an australia with giant kangaroos to be honest.

# ? Aug 20, 2011 19:41

ATribeCalledKvetch: Nov 5, 2010; I do hate myself, but it has nothing to do with being Jewish.

Rogue0071 posted:

Is that a yes vote for #3 or an abstention?

Woops, meant to say Yes there.

# ? Aug 20, 2011 19:44

Rogue0071: Dec 8, 2009; Grey Hunter's next target.

Questions

1) Did Timur die during his first military campaign?
2) Did Zabulistan successfully resist the Ghaznavid invasion
3) Did the Mongol invasion of Japan succeed in reaching the island?
4) Did the Australian megafauna survive human migration into the continent?
5) Did Sundiata Keita die in exile?

Current Vote Count

1. 28-71 NO leads
2. 60-40 YES leads
3. 65-37 YES leads
4. 75-23 YES leads
5. 35-64 NO leads

>100 total votes :toot:

Rogue0071 fucked around with this message at 19:51 on Aug 20, 2011

# ? Aug 20, 2011 19:48

Nakar: Sep 2, 2002; Ultima Ratio Regum

If Wiz really wanted to troll us, he'd use the Random Map Mod feature that only generates a random New World and not tell us. I don't think that mod works in Divine Wind though, does it? I haven't checked in a while.

# ? Aug 20, 2011 19:51

Talas: Aug 27, 2005

Reveilled posted:

I'd be more interested in an America where horses didn't die out than an australia with giant kangaroos to be honest.

No horses, we need llamas in North America. They could had give the Aztecs a big advantage along the Sierras up to the north.

They only needed some serious trade with the Incas. drat you Panama! :argh:

# ? Aug 20, 2011 19:52

theblastizard: Nov 5, 2009

Nakar posted:

If Wiz really wanted to troll us, he'd use the Random Map Mod feature that only generates a random New World and not tell us. I don't think that mod works in Divine Wind though, does it? I haven't checked in a while.

That definitely would not work with Vicky 2.

# ? Aug 20, 2011 19:53

Tiger Crazy: Sep 25, 2006; If you couldn't find any weirdness, maybe we'll just have to make some!

1) Did Timur die during his first military campaign? no
2) Did Zabulistan successfully resist the Ghaznavid invasion? Yes
3) Did the Mongol invasion of Japan succeed in reaching the island? Yes
4) Did the Australian megafauna survive human migration into the continent? Yes
5) Did Sundiata Keita die in exile?Yes.

# ? Aug 20, 2011 19:56

Nckdictator: Sep 8, 2006; Just..someone

1) Yes
2) No
3) Yes
4) Yes
5) No

# ? Aug 20, 2011 19:57

The 47 Reagans: Mar 14, 2010

Wiz posted:

Historical Questions
1) Did Timur die during his first military campaign?
2) Did Zabulistan successfully resist the Ghaznavid invasion?
3) Did the Mongol invasion of Japan succeed in reaching the island?
4) Did the megafauna in Australia/New Zealand survive human migration into the continent?
5) Did Sundiata Keita die in exile?

1. No.
2. Yes
3. Yes.
4. Yes.
5. No.

# ? Aug 20, 2011 20:10

Nakar: Sep 2, 2002; Ultima Ratio Regum

Hey Wiz, out of curiosity, are there any unusual dynasties around now? Is Italy's ruling family still Norman (not that this is unusual for Sicily, but it's notable for being non-Italian)? Is the English royal family still Aragonese? Anyone else like that?

# ? Aug 20, 2011 20:13

BlackJosh: Sep 25, 2007

Reveilled posted:

Isn't the soil in the Great plains so hard that it was unfarmable until the mid-19th century, hence why american settlers completely ignored it on their way to the west coast? I think it was even referred to as the "great american desert" in the late 18th and early 19th century because it was unfarmable.

Still, more serious agricultural civilizations could have developed in other areas; the mississippi mound civilization might have developed much faster, along with the Aztecs and the east coast natives.

I'd be more interested in an America where horses didn't die out than an australia with giant kangaroos to be honest.

No, Great plains soil is incredibly fertile and useful, but again, as said, non-human horsepower was really needed to make use of it the best, with pulled plows. There were tribes on the plains, like the Arikara and Pawnee, that were sedentary or only semi-nomadic and did engage in limited agriculture, but this was on the banks of rivers and other easier to subsistence farm areas. The Great Plains were an incredible bounty of lifestyle riches, but Native Americans just didn't have the ability to convert the most abundant energy of the plains, grass, into workable power without beasts of burden and horses.

# ? Aug 20, 2011 20:16

Anou: May 29, 2006; Hello there!

1. Yes
2. Yes
3. No
4. No
5. Yes

# ? Aug 20, 2011 20:27

Rogue0071: Dec 8, 2009; Grey Hunter's next target.

Questions

1) Did Timur die during his first military campaign?
2) Did Zabulistan successfully resist the Ghaznavid invasion
3) Did the Mongol invasion of Japan succeed in reaching the island?
4) Did the Australian megafauna survive human migration into the continent?
5) Did Sundiata Keita die in exile?

Current Vote Count

1. 31-73 NO leads
2. 68-42 YES leads
3. 68-39 YES leads
4. 78-25 YES leads
5. 38-66 NO leads

:siren:

This is the last vote count update I'll be doing until tomorrow afternoon :siren:

If someone else could keep the count updated for any new pages that would be cool.

E: This is accurate as of TheLoquid's vote.

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[b]Questions[/b]

1) Did Timur die during his first military campaign?
2) Did Zabulistan successfully resist the Ghaznavid invasion
3) Did the Mongol invasion of Japan succeed in reaching the island?
4) Did the Australian megafauna survive human migration into the continent?
5) Did Sundiata Keita die in exile?


[b]Current Vote Count[/b]

1. 31-73 [b]NO leads[/b]
2. 68-42 [b]YES leads[/b]
3. 68-39 [b]YES leads[/b]
4. 78-25 [b]YES leads[/b]
5. 38-66 [b]NO leads[/b]

Rogue0071 fucked around with this message at 20:42 on Aug 20, 2011

# ? Aug 20, 2011 20:33

TheLoquid: Nov 5, 2008

1. Yes
2. No
3. No
4. No
5. Yes

# ? Aug 20, 2011 20:38

Spiderfist Island: Feb 19, 2011

I have a slightly more realistic alternative to the 'Vinland Survives' Idea

Ok, so the Vinland colony went kaput after a few years in our timeline, but what if in this one a pagan, 'true viking' Greenland managed to survive isolated from the cultural changes in Scandinavia? Erik the Red was a steadfast pagan, and the settlement survived into the 12th century, so it could conceivably been isolated during the Black Death and the Sami king in Sweden preventing a Hanseatic League, but Norway still dealing in trade with the western scandinavians.

I guess if Greenland gets high enough prestige/navy tradition/something, a 'Rediscover Vinland' decision and a 'resettle Vinland' mission can become available.

Here's a link to archeological digs in Greenland

A possible flag could be this Raven Banner, but with a green background and a white raven:

I would shop it to the colors, but my computer isn't agreeing that well right now.

# ? Aug 20, 2011 20:39

A Meatslab: Apr 15, 2010

1) Haha No
2) Yes
3) No
4) gently caress YES
5) No

# ? Aug 20, 2011 20:43

Kavak: Aug 23, 2009

1) Yes.
2) No.
3) Yes.
4) No.
5) No.

# ? Aug 20, 2011 20:46

Brutus Salad: Nov 8, 2009; Best buddies forever!

1)No
2)No
3)Yes
4)Yes
5)No

I'm just gonna pretend that the mongols were focused elsewhere to explain their lackluster performance in CK.

# ? Aug 20, 2011 20:46

Ogianres: Oct 21, 2008

1) Did Timur die during his first military campaign?
NO
2) Did Zabulistan successfully resist the Ghaznavid invasion?
YES
3) Did the Mongol invasion of Japan succeed in reaching the island?
YES
4) Did the Australian megafauna survive human migration into the continent?
YES
5) Did Sundiata Keita die in exile?
NO

# ? Aug 20, 2011 20:48

Patter Song: Mar 26, 2010; Hereby it is manifest that during the time men live without a common power to keep them all in awe, they are in that condition which is called war; and such a war as is of every man against every man.; Fun Shoe

Spiderfist, I'm going to have to maintain that the "Greenland and Newfoundland are unsettled, but Iceland has sight of them" is a better solution if for no other reason than that Greenland by itself would be so utterly poor in EU3 that it'd go bankrupt even trying to colonize Newfoundland.

# ? Aug 20, 2011 20:49

Mantis42: Jul 26, 2010

1) No
2) No
3) Yes. Anything is better than DW's Asia.
4) Yes I want to see where you're going with this.
5) No

# ? Aug 20, 2011 21:00

CasinoV: Aug 13, 2009

1) YES
2) YES
3) YES
4) HELL YES!
5) no because I need one no.

# ? Aug 20, 2011 21:01

Frionnel: May 7, 2010; Friends are what make testing worth it.

1) No.
2) No.
3) Yes.
4) Based on the little i know about it, No.
5) No.

# ? Aug 20, 2011 21:19

Kainser: Apr 27, 2010; O'er the sea from the north
there sails a ship
With the people of Hel
at the helm stands Loki
After the wolf
do wild men follow

Is there any particular reason that people wants Vinland to be added beyond "it's cool"? From what I've seen there haven't been a greater impetus for Scandinavians to emigrate to Iceland and beyond in the LP than there was in real life.

e: :goonsay:

Kainser fucked around with this message at 21:24 on Aug 20, 2011

# ? Aug 20, 2011 21:22

Fiction: Apr 28, 2011

I haven't actually been posting in the thread but

1) No
2) Yes
3) No
4) Yes
5) No

# ? Aug 20, 2011 21:27

vanity slug: Jul 20, 2010

Kainser posted:

Is there any particular reason that people wants Vinland to be added beyond "it's cool"? From what I've seen there haven't been a greater impetus for Scandinavians to emigrate to Iceland and beyond in the LP than there was in real life.

The Sami in Sweden could've been forced to relocate, creating a glorious new nation in Greenland, Markland and Vinland.

# ? Aug 20, 2011 21:29

Daeren: Aug 18, 2009; YER MUSTACHE IS CROOKED

1) No. Timur was too badass to die like a chump.
2) Yes
3) :black101:

YES
4) Yes, if only to see what the hell this influences.
5) Yes

# ? Aug 20, 2011 21:30

MadPierrot: Nov 4, 2009; we are all dead men on leave

In terms of upcoming flags and shields for EU3 I'd be happy to help whip some stuff together, once we've figured out what we're going to change.

# ? Aug 20, 2011 21:32

Prokhor Zakharov: Dec 31, 2008; This is me as I make another great post

Good luck with your depression!

1. Yes
2. Yes
3. Yes
4. Yes
5. No

# ? Aug 20, 2011 21:32

Snipee: Mar 27, 2010

Wiz posted:

1) Did Timur die during his first military campaign?
2) Did Zabulistan successfully resist the Ghaznavid invasion?
3) Did the Mongol invasion of Japan succeed in reaching the island?
4) Did the megafauna in Australia/New Zealand survive human migration into the continent?
5) Did Sundiata Keita die in exile?

1. No.
2. No.
3. Yes.
4. Yes.
5. No.

# ? Aug 20, 2011 21:36

theblastizard: Nov 5, 2009

MadPierrot posted:

In terms of upcoming flags and shields for EU3 I'd be happy to help whip some stuff together, once we've figured out what we're going to change.

If you so much as think about changing Burgundy's EU3 flag I will hate you forever.

# ? Aug 20, 2011 21:45

ZeeToo: Feb 20, 2008; I'm a kitty!

1) No
2) Yes
3) Yes
4) YES
5) No

# ? Aug 20, 2011 21:47

Gorgo Primus: Mar 29, 2009; We shall forge the most progressive republic ever known to man!

MadPierrot posted:

In terms of upcoming flags and shields for EU3 I'd be happy to help whip some stuff together, once we've figured out what we're going to change.

Ditto.

# ? Aug 20, 2011 21:48

Viola the Mad: Feb 13, 2010

Wiz posted:

1) Did Timur die during his first military campaign?
2) Did Zabulistan successfully resist the Ghaznavid invasion?
3) Did the Mongol invasion of Japan succeed in reaching the island?
4) Did the megafauna in Australia/New Zealand survive human migration into the continent?
5) Did Sundiata Keita die in exile?

1)No.
2)Yes.
3)No.
4)No.
5)No.

e. Changed my vote.

Viola the Mad fucked around with this message at 01:38 on Aug 21, 2011

# ? Aug 20, 2011 21:52

Flavius Aetass: Mar 30, 2011

1) YES
2) YES
3) YES
4) NO
5) NO

# ? Aug 20, 2011 21:56

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Natty Ninefingers: Feb 17, 2011

Wiz posted:

1) Did Timur die during his first military campaign?
2) Did Zabulistan successfully resist the Ghaznavid invasion?
3) Did the Mongol invasion of Japan succeed in reaching the island?
4) Did the megafauna in Australia/New Zealand survive human migration into the continent?
5) Did Sundiata Keita die in exile?

1. Yes
2. Yes
3.No
4. Yes
5. No.

# ? Aug 20, 2011 21:56

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