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Neverending Nightmares is now coming out at the same time on PC and Ouya. Now can it please get funded? I want to get my creepy Edward Gorey mind-mansion exploration on, and I'd like things to go well for Mike Gilgenbach for a change. 
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GoD Factory really is something special. I hope they get funded this time. I've only played the tutorial with a mouse and keyboard so far. Can't wait to try out a real match with my joystick setup.
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Illessa posted:Neverending Nightmares is now coming out at the same time on PC and Ouya. Now can it please get funded? I want to get my creepy Edward Gorey mind-mansion exploration on, and I'd like things to go well for Mike Gilgenbach for a change. Yeah, I hope someone can give it a lot more exposure. It doesn't look like it will make it. :/
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Sep 19, 2013 07:30
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this looks interesting but I'm not sure if they are going to make it.
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The whole binaural beats thing veers slightly into psychobabble and new-age woo-woo.
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Sep 19, 2013 12:36
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Actually, Hussie wanted to outsource the actual game-making to a different company, but he never said which one.
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Sep 19, 2013 13:00
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 Tim joins the lines of support from the webcomic community for my game alongside Zach Weinersmith, Pete Abrams, Woody Hearn, Chris Hastings, and their peers!
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Sep 19, 2013 14:35
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You've been here since 2003 and don't know the sort of reaction an announcement like that will get around here?
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Sep 19, 2013 14:48
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Oh dear.
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Sep 19, 2013 14:53
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Wendell posted:You've been here since 2003 and don't know the sort of reaction an announcement like that will get around here? You've got a point, but the truth of the matter is that Tim is actually a pretty good guy (*though i can't speak of his public persona). Also, seeing how we are all mature adults, I'm hoping if someone has a personal grudge against one of the webcomics in my lineup it won't result in some sort of derail. diadem fucked around with this message at 15:34 on Sep 19, 2013 |
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Sep 19, 2013 14:54
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diadem posted:You've got a point, but the truth of the matter is that Tim is actually a pretty good guy. He really isn't.
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Sep 19, 2013 14:55
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The man's back is turned but we know what his face looks like: B^U
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Sep 19, 2013 14:55
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Okay. Third time's the charm. Tim Buckley (period) producing stuff like... that, and Pete Abrams. I'm... clearly not the target audience here. Oh well. Best of luck with the project, though! It's always nice to see goons make good. 
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Sep 19, 2013 14:55
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Bieeardo posted:Okay. Third time's the charm. The target audience for the game itself is people who enjoy deep tactics games. The webcomics and artists (from hellboy, final fantasy, gundam, zelda, marvel zobmies, m:tg, etc) are there because people don't care about gameplay if we don't have shiny art. The game itself's biggest thing going for it is its gameplay, but without a hook people won't give it enough of a chance to care. Examples https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTCjnt_PGgw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyBKSjTveZU Edit: And thanks!
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Sep 19, 2013 14:58
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diadem posted:The target audience for the game itself is people who enjoy deep tactics games. The webcomics and artists (from hellboy, final fantasy, gundam, zelda, etc) are there because people don't care about gameplay if we don't have shiny art. The game itself's biggest thing going for it is its gameplay, but without a hook people won't give it enough of a chance to care. Arguably Tim Buckley's art isn't even that good in my opinion. And this forum pretty much hates him. Good luck with your game friend.
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Sep 19, 2013 15:00
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Bieeardo posted:Okay. Third time's the charm. Don't worry, there's an upcoming stretch goal where Buckley doesn't work on the project.
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That's the point. The webcomic artists? They're poo poo. That 'art' sticks out like a turd in a punchbowl. The fact that you're actively courting them doesn't reflect well.
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PonchAxis posted:Arguably Tim Buckley's art isn't even that good in my opinion. And this forum pretty much hates him. Good luck with your game friend. Humm, maybe I should have gone with a Zelda artist instead for my first artist mention on this thread...  Or Marvel cover artists like Arthur Suydam, or Magic The Gathering Artists like Nils Hamm (Mountain, Grave Titan, Thragtusk..), or Merideth's Invader Zim DVD design (that looks like the Zim house), etc edit: Actual game card art here diadem fucked around with this message at 15:29 on Sep 19, 2013 |
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Sep 19, 2013 15:02
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I'm sure people can move past this announcement and heal.
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Sep 19, 2013 15:04
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diadem posted:The webcomics and artists (from hellboy, final fantasy, gundam, zelda, etc) are there because people don't care about gameplay if we don't have shiny art. I can understand this, and as someone who's undertaken game development I understand how difficult it can be to get good art for your game. Getting some name-recognized people to provide you art is a great step, and I know it won't have a deciding factor on whether or not I purchase your game. That being said, I have personal friends who were vendors at Digital Overload and they only have negative things to say about the man, and goons have equally good reasons for not liking him, so expect some resistance to his inclusion. He's a pretty hum-drum artist though. I'd say the same of Weinersmith, while I love his work I don't really appreciate him for his art.
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Sep 19, 2013 15:08
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I want to play a webcomic game with art by Jess Fink, Trudy Cooper and Erika Moen.
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diadem posted:Humm, maybe I should have gone with a Zelda artist instead for my first artist mention on this thread... Yes, since that art is awesome and you presumably know "Buckley" is a curse word around here you should have led with that.
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Holy poo poo, I never expected to see anyone in the Year of our Lord 2013 on SA to reference Buckley in a positive manner. I just hope he didn't get any money for that. I'd hate for my cash dollars to end up with him.
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Sep 19, 2013 15:17
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There are so many insanely good webcomic artists and you go with Buckley? Even discounting all the baggage he brings with him, seriously?
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Sep 19, 2013 15:39
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Here's some "normal" art for the game (the webcomic artists are producing alternate art for their cards. Zach's is pretty drat funny.) We have over 1,000 of these so far.     Note: From a gameplay perspective the mermaids above are actually kind of badass. They hamper the opponent's creaitures' agility to simulate underwater combat. Since creatures with higher agility go first, this allows mermaids to take out some of the more threatening creatures before there is a chance to fight back. edit: Not replying to anything more about Tim on this thread as to not to derail. diadem fucked around with this message at 15:51 on Sep 19, 2013 |
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Sep 19, 2013 15:41
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Buckley is an absolutely toxic personality, no one has, or should, forgiven him for the miscarriage story arc. I honestly refuse to in anyway give him a pay check on moral grounds. But even if he wasn't so toxic his art is pretty subpar at best, if you can, lose him immediately.
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Sep 19, 2013 15:44
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Get rid of him immediately, seriously even Know Your Meme says that goons hate him with a special passion. I had never heard of him before this thread but honestly that comic is really loving awful. Why would you defend him and link the update to this forum, when this is as wrong as you can get in terms of his fanbase? DancingPenguin fucked around with this message at 16:28 on Sep 19, 2013 |
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Sep 19, 2013 15:53
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When even a whole bunch of other major webcomic artists, usually fairly supportive of each other, pass around a sketchbook where they each draw their own take on you with hams for hands at a con, you know you're a talentless dick.
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Sep 19, 2013 16:00
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Yeah, hiring Tim Buckley will only see you operating at a loss. Mind you, at least you didn't get him involved from the beginning- your game would never have made it past the fetal stages then.
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What's sad is that even though Buckley is a terrible artist and a terrible person and there is all this legitimate criticism against him, diadem is just going to write it all off as "internet people having a dumb internet grudge." I'll be surprised if he responds in a way that isn't defensive.
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Not everyone hates Tim Buckley with a fervent, thread chasing passion, some of us are just indifferent. Sui Generis, the game I backed and was most worried about, has now had 2 updates in under a month. The updates aren't hugely substantial, but it's better than the 3 month gap prior. NTRabbit fucked around with this message at 16:29 on Sep 19, 2013 |
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Sep 19, 2013 16:26
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BattleMaster posted:What's sad is that even though Buckley is a terrible artist and a terrible person and there is all this legitimate criticism against him, diadem is just going to write it all off as "internet people having a dumb internet grudge." I'll be surprised if he responds in a way that isn't defensive. His money, his loss. He's gonna pay someone for poo poo art when he could've got much better for much less from any number of independent artists.
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I'm gonna keep an eye on Kicktraq. You know some people are going to withdraw pledges now. Angry nerds are something else.
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Sep 19, 2013 16:31
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100 HOGS AGREE posted:There are so many insanely good webcomic artists and you go with Buckley? It could have been worse, he could have picked Scott Kurtz. 
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Sep 19, 2013 16:36
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Should have gone with Aaron Diaz or Tim Siddell. Or Kate Beaton.
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Great Rumbler posted:Should have gone with Aaron Diaz or Tim Siddell. We are pulling favors to get voice actors for the single player tutorial and campaign. We are a small team with very limited funds but are working on favors from connections of past projects. One big name you may recognize from the voice actor department played Leo from TMNT and Dean Venture from the Venture Brothers. I may be able to reach out to those webcomics through my ConnectiCon contacts (an old project goons helped get off the ground), though I'm not sure if you were being serious about actually getting them, based on the other reactions from using webcomics for alternate art. diadem fucked around with this message at 16:49 on Sep 19, 2013 |
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Sep 19, 2013 16:41
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Has he sent pictures of his dick to underaged girls like Buckley did?
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Illessa posted:Neverending Nightmares is now coming out at the same time on PC and Ouya. Now can it please get funded? I want to get my creepy Edward Gorey mind-mansion exploration on, and I'd like things to go well for Mike Gilgenbach for a change. I'll be very surprised if it doesn't do well - it's the featured staff pick on the home page under videogames. That's huge.
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diadem posted:We are pulling favors to get voice actors for the single player tutorial and campaign. We are a small team with very limited funds but are working on favors from connections of past projects. One big name you may recognize from the voice actor department played Leo from TMNT and Dean Venture from the Venture Brothers. I don't necessarily blame you personally for this, because it is possible to have missed that Tim Buckley is basically the devil, but holy poo poo you opened up the biggest can of worms ever. I guess the other flip side is that despite his hated status among webcomic artists and a large portion of sane adults, we do have to remember that CAD is a gigantic webcomic and does have a lot of fans, so it's not crazy that he picked them.
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