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Verviticus posted:edit: we already had ariams corruption foreshadowed, do they really need to confirm in giant flashing neon letters "IT WASNT TYLER" like just let the stupider people think its him or something how little respect do they have for the people watching this show lol just wait until you get to s3 and most people in this thread assumed that Detmer was also corrupted by Control. Or like any of the other glaringly obvious plot points that have been shown but some people still don't get it. Never give the viewer any credit.
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"we have a traitor aboard. its tyler!" *section 31 follows them anyway* "well, now that we are five minutes away from the other ship, lets talk about what we know, on the bridge, in earshot of everyone" CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:lol just wait until you get to s3 and most people in this thread assumed that Detmer was also corrupted by Control. Or like any of the other glaringly obvious plot points that have been shown but some people still don't get it. Never give the viewer any credit. havent gotten that far yet but ill just assume shes evil edit: lol as if mines dont have some sufficiently bad enough association; ~BLADE MINES~
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mllaneza posted:An as the season goes on, Mariner is more and more down for a staring-at-the-warp-core session. Probably because her friends are, so that's cool. Well, she does secretly love it too...
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Nov 19, 2020 11:10
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Mariner was 100% down with totally lame warp core picnics after her holodeck movie therapy.
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Yvonmukluk posted:Well, she does secretly love it too... I do appreciate that between her and Boimler there is a singular perfect Starfleet officer and it comes out whenever they're together from like Episode 5-onward, but while they're apart they're both just really lovely people.
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Nov 19, 2020 11:38
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You hosed up! Now you're not the first officer, you're just the chief science officer. Just tell her to gently caress off with her boyfriend and have interesting adventures. Like half of this season could be fun planet-of-the-week with those two and then the other half could be whatever the hell the rest of the cast does.
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Nov 19, 2020 12:43
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Everything about LD sounds great but I hate cartoons
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Cingulate posted:Everything about LD sounds great but I hate cartoons My condolences on never having seen any of the good DC comics movies.
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Cingulate posted:Everything about LD sounds great but I hate cartoons All-timer post/avatar combo
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Spanish Matlock posted:My condolences on never having seen any of the good DC comics movies.
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Cingulate posted:Whenever you say “I hate cartoons”, you always get a bunch of “well you’ve clearly never experienced MY favorite cartoon, it’s about this all-female superhero squad disguised as tennis coaches at a Japanese high school who solve crime using the power of INCEST”. Sorry man, I don’t like cartoons. I don’t like your favourite cartoon either. I feel like you're describing my problems with anime and arguments I've had about it, but that doesn't apply to cartoons at large.
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Nov 19, 2020 14:19
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All forms of an entire medium from all corners of the globe are exactly the same.
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Congratulations to Lt Nilsson for her promotion from "wait who is that blonde woman again?" to First Officer of the Discovery
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Seemlar posted:Congratulations to Lt Nilsson for her promotion from "wait who is that blonde woman again?" to First Officer of the Discovery I suspect what happened is we're seeing multiple drafts overlap, where the first go was to promote Michael to give her a little authority but being First Officer means she technically needs to babysit the ship if Saru's doing cool stuff and can't be center-stage without contriving stuff every time. So Background Extra gets the job so the Science Officer and Captain can go do cool stuff.
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socialsecurity posted:All forms of an entire medium from all corners of the globe are exactly the same.
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Neddy Seagoon posted:I suspect what happened is we're seeing multiple drafts overlap, where the first go was to promote Michael to give her a little authority but being First Officer means she technically needs to babysit the ship if Saru's doing cool stuff and can't be center-stage without contriving stuff every time. So Background Extra gets the job so the Science Officer and Captain can go do cool stuff. Totally unnecessary if so, Kirk and Spock left Scotty in charge and went on missions together all the time.
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I think Burnham got demoted for very clear story reasons set up from the very beginning of the season not weird invented production fanfiction Like Nilsson directly took the bridge position of Airiam, who was the Second Officer under Lorca which is why I assume she's next up. The only people that outrank her other than Burnham are the ones not on the bridge.
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I think what people are getting at is that this isn't really a "hey let me tell you about my favorite cartoon!" and more "almost everyone says this is the best Trek in decades despite being a cartoon." I understand you have a blanket dislike of animation, but I guess the real question is "do you like Trek enough to give the show a chance anyway?" If not, cool, but again, general consensus is you'd be missing out on an excellent Trek show.
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Snow Cone Capone posted:I think what people are getting at is that this isn't really a "hey let me tell you about my favorite cartoon!" and more "almost everyone says this is the best Trek in decades despite being a cartoon."  but everything you guys are saying sounds just great.
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For what it's worth, I'm someone who tends to have issues connecting with animated material as well (though sounds like I may have more exceptions than you) and Lower Decks still really worked for me. It helps that it's grounded in a framework of the familiar.
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Yeah, my main annoyance is how the dialogue tends to fall into that rapid-fire pacing that you get in a lot of newer cartoons, but it does open up a lot of possibilities as far as cool-looking aliens and great SFX. I can't find a gif of it but the one ship disintegrating trying to warp out was one of the coolest space effects in Trek to date.
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Cingulate posted:Whenever you say “I hate cartoons”, you always get a bunch of “well you’ve clearly never experienced MY favorite cartoon, it’s about this all-female superhero squad disguised as tennis coaches at a Japanese high school who solve crime using the power of INCEST”. Sorry man, I don’t like cartoons. I don’t like your favourite cartoon either. Okay, hold up. Who in the gently caress is recommending poo poo like that to you... on the reg? Also are you sure you’re not just confusing cartoons and anime? Because modern western cartoons are nothing like... Christ. Is your avatar supposed to be ironic, by the way? Just curious.
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Casually dropping you don't like cartoons is a lot like saying you don't eat meat or you don't drink. This is an outrage, it cannot be allowed to persist
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Cingulate posted:Casually dropping you don't like cartoons is a lot like saying you don't eat meat or you don't drink. This is an outrage, it cannot be allowed to persist Those can have medical or moral reasons. I mean, like or don't like whatever you want, it doesn't matter. If you had left it at, "I just don't like cartoons" everyone probably would have moved on. It's just funny because the reason you gave was...weird.
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Cingulate posted:Casually dropping you don't like cartoons is a lot like saying you don't eat meat or you don't drink. This is an outrage, it cannot be allowed to persist and that’s cool, everyone has different tastes, but this is veering weirdly into “doth protest too much” territory for you, so let’s consider it dropped. So, about that that Star Trek Disco, Very?
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I didn’t give a reason actually. I don’t have a reason. I just dont like them. So, about that star Treks thing e:f,b
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drat this episode of Star Trek Burnham! Unaltered rambling right after watching the episode: I liked it. A bit too much killing, a bit too starwars with the sideways fly-by shooting and stuff but it is enjoyable. New discovery design? Guess Calypso short ain't canon anymore. Also it does seem stupid with first Roddenberry design triangle with floating nacelles. Also interesting how they will play the spore flip with those? I think they attach before the flip. Cool scenes overall, okay-romance-elevator-kiss. And the stupid gimmicky alien that can't sort the PT out feels copied from the elevator guy of Orville. Sudden unplanned escape didn't seem that forced, surprisingly. Also Georgiou feels different after she met the two holograms and the guy in glasses. The whole thing still doesn't feel ST as it was, but it is enjoyable now. It feels like knowing Asimov's works by heart and then watching I, Robot. It starts to feel somewhat right but still not fully same. nine-gear crow posted:Okay, hold up. Who in the gently caress is recommending poo poo like that to you... on the reg? Also are you sure you’re not just confusing cartoons and anime? Because modern western cartoons are nothing like... Christ. Is your avatar supposed to be ironic, by the way? Just curious. its a redtext av, looking at his rap sheet
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With those sweet upgrades, Discovery can finally be the future show with the experimental ship that it probably should have been from the start. With this episode, it kinda felt like the transformation was complete. It’s a shame it took until season 3, episode 6 to do, but hey.
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Erulisse posted:its a redtext av, looking at his rap sheet 
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Cingulate posted:Whenever you say “I hate cartoons”, you always get a bunch of “well you’ve clearly never experienced MY favorite cartoon, it’s about this all-female superhero squad disguised as tennis coaches at a Japanese high school who solve crime using the power of INCEST”. Sorry man, I don’t like cartoons. I don’t like your favourite cartoon either. I am very much not saying that, and am instead using you as a medium to decry the quality variance in DC movies. You can have weird hyperspecific reasons to not like whatever you want. Maybe cartoons killed your mom. I promise you that I do not care.
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One thing Discovery gets right is its female/minority dominated cast, and presents it so nonchalantly. There’s no creepy Berman-esque hypersexualization, or awkward and borderline offensive caricatures like Chakotay. I bring this up because I only just now noticed there’s no cis white male main cast this season, and I’m happy to see Trek do something like that finally.
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About the next episode preview: Is Burnham gonna leave Discovery? That'd be an interesting take for a Trek show to have its main character not be associated with its title ship. Also, every scene should end with Linus accidentally beaming in.
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HD DAD posted:I only just now noticed there’s no cis white male main cast this season I mean...under all that make-up, Doug Jones is a cis white guy.
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Phylodox posted:I mean...under all that make-up, Doug Jones is a cis white guy. I have just discovered he does not in fact have Marfan syndrome.
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Phylodox posted:I mean...under all that make-up, Doug Jones is a cis white guy. True, it would be more accurate to say there are no cis white straight characters on the show right now. Still pretty great though!
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HD DAD posted:One thing Discovery gets right is its female/minority dominated cast, and presents it so nonchalantly. There’s no creepy Berman-esque hypersexualization, or awkward and borderline offensive caricatures like Chakotay. I bring this up because I only just now noticed there’s no cis white male main cast this season, and I’m happy to see Trek do something like that finally. I've not been watching Season 3 but did Stamets get the boot?
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multijoe posted:I've not been watching Season 3 but did Stamets get the boot?
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multijoe posted:I've not been watching Season 3 but did Stamets get the boot? While technically cis would apply to gay individuals, typically one term trumps the other when applying a qualification. It's actually pretty complicated to talk about, because typically everyone of each qualification has their own consideration of what their identification is. Regardless, in my experience while cis refers to gender and sex, and not sexual orientation, I've never heard someone refer to a gay individual as cis.
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I think it's pretty insulting to gay people and trans people to carelessly mix up the two concepts, personally
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