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didn't he also tell the "hitman" to kill the persons family too
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Not family, just housemates.
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Heresiarch posted:i don't have any questions or anything useful to say except thank you for being a "tech journalist" who is not terrible
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jony ive aces posted:do you have stai- oh wait never mind i am protected
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restingwitchface posted:
i've yosposted from vegas several times
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i've yosposted from the bathtub and the toilet dozens of times
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hey guys i heard that dpr tried to kill someones family?
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yospooping just seems appropriate somehow
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Trig Discipline posted:yospooping just seems appropriate somehow
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i've yosposted on a plane i've yosposted on a train i've yosposted from the car i've yosposted in a bar i've yosposted in a boat i've yosposted while eating goat i've yosposted here and there i've yosposted everywhere!
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Boxturret posted:i think there's a world of difference between getting in an internet argument with someone and saying stuff that you wouldn't in real life and actually contracting and paying people to kill another person I dunno, there are plenty of people out there in the upper segments of business who I'm sure have no qualms about having people killed, just look at Canadian Mining companies w/r/t union organizers in South America. it's a very banal kind of evil that I think a lot of people would be capable of going through with if they were in a situation like it. It's depersonalized, distant, just words and numbers on screen. How different is that from operation commanders ordering attacks they know will get civilians killed? It's not that it's right, just it rings kind of hollow to me to condemn Ross for the rest of his days to a brutal, awful existence when plenty of people who are just as bad or worse are left completely unscrutinized. That whole 'regular people as prison guards' experiment comes to mind. I'm not big on punishment as the purpose of justice though so that's probably affecting my view, would rather just see him monitored for the rest of his life so he doesn't do this dumb poo poo again, I don't wish the US penal system on anyone really. It's his own dumb fault though, so c'est la vie, better people than him have gone away for life, won't be losing sleep over it. and yeah, satisfied with the results of the trial because goddamn, mycrimes.txt, if that doesn't get a conviction what possibly could. Ron Paul Atreides fucked around with this message at 07:01 on Feb 5, 2015 |
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If you guys like dumb jokes about the law, I actually co-write a copyright law newsletter with Parker Higgins: http://tinyletter.com/5ua I'm off this week (because Silk Road trial) but I'll be back soon. It's all puns and dorky references to obscure lawsuits and gifs. It's not as bad as that sounds.
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restingwitchface posted:It's all puns and dorky references to obscure lawsuits and gifs. SA is like 90% puns and dorky references so I think you've found your audience e:vvvvvvv you are actually v funny and a goodposter come back, laugh at butthavers and crack jokes with us again plz Ron Paul Atreides fucked around with this message at 06:59 on Feb 5, 2015 |
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Trig Discipline posted:i've yosposted on a plane Distribution/Aiding and Abetting YOSPOSting Distribution/Aiding and Abetting YOSPOSting by Means of the Internet Conspiracy to YOSPOSt Continuing Criminal YOSPOSting Conspiracy to Commit or Aid and Abet YOSPOSting Conspiracy to Traffic in Fraudulent YOSPOSting Conspiracy to Commit YOSPOS Laundering
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restingwitchface posted:If you guys like dumb jokes about the law, I actually co-write a copyright law newsletter with Parker Higgins: http://tinyletter.com/5ua do you think youd be interested in covering the butterfly labs stuff if a new batch of laugh miner preorders ever ships?
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ruby idiot railed posted:reminder that this [ricin poisoning] was an actual thing so poo poo, I thought it was Original Recipe Silk Road Sarah, you have to cover all the Silk Road and spin-offs trials and then write a book. FCKGW was the one who identified dreadlock libertarian as the Ross-hero-shouter; I was just repeating the Buttcoin gospel.
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AlbieQuirky posted:poo poo, I thought it was Original Recipe Silk Road yeah it was a case in the UK, daughter was actually acquitted/released because of extenuating circumstances with her mother, and it wasn't ricin but abrin, and it was off of black market reloaded
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Ron Paul Atreides posted:That whole 'regular people as prison guards' experiment comes to mind. yo, stanford prison experiment is discredited these days due to extremely poor methodology and a complete lack of ethical oversight
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Well gently caress, a decade later that's still an awesome thread/op. Would've voted 5.
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ruby idiot railed posted:yeah it was a case in the UK, daughter was actually acquitted/released because of extenuating circumstances with her mother, and it wasn't ricin but abrin, and it was off of black market reloaded should have bought DPR approved iocaine powder
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Improbable Lobster posted:yo, stanford prison experiment is discredited these days due to extremely poor methodology and a complete lack of ethical oversight welp. Even so, I don't think it's that hard for people to depersonalize from horrible stuff when it's not directly them doing it. What I'm trying to say is I don't think Ross being a normal, even likable guy precludes him from having commissioned hits. I bet a lot of people, in a situation where they feel they were bleeding money to blackmailers, would be capable of this. It doesn't strike me as sociopathic or evidence of particular deviance, and I bet with slightly different circumstances Ross could've probably been just a regular guy. Instead he let himself get wrapped up in libertarian poo poo and made a stupid decision to try and make the deluded fantasy of the 'free and open market' his personal project. I don't think he delights in pain or gets off on thinking about death, and the thought of the world he's about to find himself in, how hellish it's known to be, makes me feel at least some sympathy. Then again I would probably feel that for a lot of people in jail too if I read up on cases so maybe it's just a general  at how North American justice works.
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Ron Paul Atreides posted:I don't think Ross being a normal, even likable guy precludes him from having commissioned hits . . . . It doesn't strike me as sociopathic or evidence of particular deviance
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Linguica posted:jesus christ if it is then our society is chock full of deviants at pretty much every level of business and government
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Trig Discipline posted:yospooping just seems appropriate somehow that's like 90% of my yoscase right there
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Ron Paul Atreides posted:if it is then our society is chock full of deviants at pretty much every level of business and government
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Ron Paul Atreides posted:if it is then our society is chock full of deviants at pretty much every level of business and government listen, I think the dude was in a panic when he ordered those hits, but i don't think most people trying to make the world a better place would order hits on somebody just for blackmail
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Ron Paul Atreides posted:welp. Even so, I don't think it's that hard for people to depersonalize from horrible stuff when it's not directly them doing it. Since you're getting a lot of poo poo, I'm going to chime in and say that this is close to what a lot of the reporters who have been following this case from the beginning think. Humanity is bad. People are bad. The Silk Road is not a dark story because of bogeymen, but because there's something about it that is very human. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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restingwitchface posted:Since you're getting a lot of poo poo, I'm going to chime in and say that this is close to what a lot of the reporters who have been following this case from the beginning think. you realize you're all broken people tho right, like you (as a profession) willfully submerge yourself in that on a day to day basis
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a mom left homeless and destitute by her unconditional love for a piece of poo poo child one of many of the saddest things
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i feel like there's a certain amount of learned behavior when it comes to that kind of distanced/banal evil tbh the average person wouldn't jump straight to hitmen to solve their problems but someone who gets in deep with ethically and/or legally dubious business is probably more willing to do something flagrantly immoral like that
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restingwitchface posted:Distribution/Aiding and Abetting YOSPOSting it's a fair cop
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Ron Paul Atreides posted:if it is then our society is chock full of deviants at pretty much every level of business and government considering that about 1% of people are psychopaths i have some bad news for you
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Linguica posted:"paying a hitman to have someone killed is not sociopathic behavior" - you, literally power, money and anonymity gently caress people up man. Especially when you don't even know the face of the person or people you're affecting. Humans in general are real good at not processing tragedies we don't directly witness. theflyingorc posted:listen, I think the dude was in a panic when he ordered those hits, but i don't think most people trying to make the world a better place would order hits on somebody just for blackmail That's what I mean though, he got himself wrapped up in this bullshit, starts getting blackmailed, so now what, can you go to the cops for help with your drug empire? Just keep paying till your little empire collapses? Whatever notions of greater good he stupidly ascribed to, by then he in way too deep. I'm not saying he's a good person, just that the circumstances of him doing this poo poo are somewhat different than if he just decided one day to use his crazy internet money to kill someone for shits and giggles. It's one bad decision snowballing into more, and no I don't think that makes him innocent, but neither do I think he's particularly abnormal. People, especially under stress and feeling trapped, are apt to make all kinds of decisions that makes them seem like lunatics from outside perspectives. And Ross here didn't even need to do anything himself, just a few conversations, a few clicks and the thing currently threatening his little empire goes away, and he doesn't need to think about it anymore. I don't think it's very hard for people we'd otherwise consider normal to do hosed up things, if the right preassures are applied. It's why it's important for regulations and laws, because it doesn't take exceptional people to do bad things.
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Ron Paul Atreides posted:power, money and anonymity gently caress people up man. Especially when you don't even know the face of the person or people you're affecting. Humans in general are real good at not processing tragedies we don't directly witness. yeah but have you considered: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nk2wViKSh_M
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Ron Paul Atreides posted:our society is chock full of deviants at pretty much every level of business and government yes
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