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Seventyfour posted:Serious question: can we get a mod to OK moving this thread to a forum that isn't so shat upon? Where else would work, though? We can't put it in GBS or D&D because the general populations there would wind up agreeing with the posts more than anything.
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You know that WikiLeaks thing with the thousands of released documents? It was literally worse than hitler (and obama did it) WikiLeaks says evidence of war crimes in documents treason everyday quote:To: NCDragon because war is all flowers and love and killing browns nothing is bad about that quote:To: NCDragon how do i know this? i listen to rush a lot you should too quote:To: NCDragon why no i don't watch the news why do you ask quote:To: NavyCanDo the founding fathers would be commentators on fox quote:To: NCDragon; conservatism_IS_compassion december 2009 december 2009 december 2009 quote:To: NCDragon DECEMBER 2009 quote:To: NCDragon
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Man, I miss the fiscal discipline of the Bush era! Gulp. I never expected to write those words. The Bush-era Republicans were out-of-control big spenders, fiending for appropriations, handing out largesse, creating giant new health-care entitlements here, building nations there, all with a devil-may-care attitude about where the money would come from. They were all carrot and no stick, cutting taxes but not doing a thing about spending. And then: A mid-year budget review by the Obama administration forecasts the deficit will be $1.47 trillion this year and $1.42 trillion next year as the U.S. struggles to recover from the recession. This year’s budget shortfall is $84 billion less than President Barack Obama’s budget office projected in February because of lower than projected spending for unemployment and some government programs. Still, the total would be a record and represent 10 percent of gross domestic product. That is from the Mid-Session Budget review, where the government checks in on the federal books and sees how closely they match up to the actual budget. Pretty close, in this case — unfortunately. Let me see if I can type this right: $1,470,000,000,000.00 — and that is just the part of the bill that we do not know how to pay. The actual bill for government spending this year is more than twice that. We are borrowing 41 cents of every dollar we spend. We are spending $36,000 per household. Okay, here is the ritual denunciation: That is the biggest deficit in the history of the United States of America, in gross dollars. For Pete’s sake. And here is the reality: That is the biggest deficit in the history of the United States of America since World War II, as a portion of GDP. That deficit is about 10 percent of GDP; the Bush-era deficits were typically about 3 percent of GDP. Heritage puts it this way: These future deficits are driven almost exclusively by rising spending. President Obama’s budget would push inflation-adjusted federal spending past $36,000 per household by 2020—$12,000 above the level that prevailed under President Bush. Even President Obama’s enormous and anti-growth $3 trillion tax increase proposal won’t stop this spending spree from pushing the national debt to economically dangerous levels. The Mid-Session Budget Review also confirms the failure of Obama’s economic agenda. The President concedes that the unemployment rate will remain at nearly 10 percent this year and not revert to pre-recession levels until 2016—and even that is based on the same optimistic Keynesian economic models that claim the stimulus created or saved 3 million jobs. If this is economic policy success, one wonders how failure would look. I do not like to make predictions (because I am really bad at it, and the world is too complicated) but here is one: Obama will find it much more difficult to get himself re-elected in 2012 if the unemployment rate is 9.7 percent than if it is 7.7 percent. I have said, on several occasions, that the only way I expect a Republican to defeat Obama in 2012 is if unemployment persists at very high levels or if there is another major economic disruption. It must be clear, even to President Obama, that his program is not working. It certainly is clear to those members of his increasingly incoherent economics team who are skedaddling. For a guy who campaigned on hope and change, Barack Obama is proving to be absolutely pig-headed when it comes to sticking to what does not work. Memo to the president: This is no way to run a welfare state. More words I never expected to type: Meanwhile, in the land of liberty, Canada: Canada’s federal budget deficit amounted to $4.2 billion during the first two months of the fiscal year, much smaller than in the same period last year when the economy was mired in recession, the finance department reported Friday. The Finance Department’s fiscal monitor noted the government spent $7.2 billion more than it took in during April and May of 2009 because tax revenues were down and social and economic spending to offset the slump was higher. “The data is reassuring that the deficit should continue to narrow,” said Mary Webb, an economist with Scotia Capital. “And it continues a trend we saw in the last quarter of fiscal 2009-2010, which is that revenues were coming back reflecting the strength of the Canadian recovery.” The improvement in the deficit year-over-year was most visible in revenues from personal income taxes and provincial sales and services taxes. The government says the deficit includes about $1.7 billion in spending under the stimulus package introduced in January 2008. Whatever you think about socialism, here is an undeniable fact: Canadians are better at it than Americans are. We are managing to inflict the costs of welfare statism on ourselves without even deriving any of the benefits: Heritage now ranks Canada’s economy as more free than that of the United States. Its government spending is only marginally higher than our own, and its government institutions are much cleaner and more effective. It went into the financial crisis with low levels of government debt and a sounder banking system, thanks in no small part to the fact that the Canadian government is not as dominated by narrow financial interests as the U.S. government is. (Question: Why is it that the lefties who rightly appreciated what a rent-seeking nightmare our financial system is do not see that they have just helped to create a substantially similar situation in the health-care industry? Just askin’.) The upshot? Canada already is packing in its stimulus measures. And tiny little Canada is creating more jobs than is the United States: Canada has recouped 403,000 jobs, or 97% of those lost in the recession. Employment rose by 93,200 in June – a number five-times greater than economists had expected – following a gain of 24,700 in May and a record-high surge of 108,700 in April. By comparison, the United States, which has a population 10-times larger than Canada’s, only added 83,000 jobs in June. And if you factor in the loss of 225,000 temporary Census jobs, the United States actually lost 125,000 jobs. Worse, if you include “discouraged workers” who haven’t looked for a job in the past four weeks, the U.S. labor force has shrunk by 974,000 in the past two months alone. Canada’s unemployment rate slid to 7.9% in June compared to 9.5% in the United States. … Canada has already begun the process of reigning in its stimulus measures. The Bank of Canada (BOC) yesterday (Tuesday) raised its key interest rate a quarter of a point to 0.75%. That was the second such high in as many months. If you want to emulate Canada, emulate the parts that work: clean government, balanced budgets, low debt.
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Jul 26, 2010 15:27
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quote:With some exceptions, the internal culture of the media industrial complex is probably the most depraved large group of people in human history. Think about the media professionals you have known personally. How many of them were NOT drunks, drug addicts and perverts? Well, he does have a point.
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Jul 26, 2010 15:39
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" They sure are creating a lot of problems for only 7 members." This is interesting: On one of the numerous "BLACK PANTHER" threads, someone inadvertently tells the truth: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2558755/posts?q=1&;page=1  quote:To: HollyB quote:To: UCANSEE2 quote:To: HollyB quote:To: UCANSEE2
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Jul 26, 2010 16:24
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Logikv9 posted:You know that WikiLeaks thing with the thousands of released documents? It was literally worse than hitler (and obama did it) freedom (of speech) isn't free
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Jul 26, 2010 16:25
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More from http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2558755/posts?q=1&;page=1quote:To: ProfoundMan  quote:To: Libloather quote:To: fullchroma quote:To: PROCON quote:To: Libloather quote:To: Libloather quote:To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast quote:To: ozzymandus
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Jul 26, 2010 16:36
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This is the last straw/Revolution is imminent/Semi-dramatic one-liner meant to insinuate something serious happening but it never will happen because these people won't get off their scooters and put down their twinkies let alone fire a gun at people #25647 also, revoluation.
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Jul 26, 2010 16:41
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Freepers: All these people need to be purged.
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Jul 26, 2010 16:42
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It's all great because they can't shut up about how Obama and other bogeyman have control over their lives yet they would love to live under an authoritarian military dictatorship (as long as he's white and christian) also this thread isn't going anywhere because it would be ruined in 10 seconds with devil's advocate posting
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Jul 26, 2010 17:02
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Tiny Fistpump posted:also this thread isn't going anywhere because it would be ruined in 10 seconds with devil's advocate posting "Now I'm not saying that I agree that all blacks need to be purged, but let's just hear this guy out. There may be some valid points hidden in there."
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Jul 26, 2010 17:10
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Tiny Fistpump posted:also this thread isn't going anywhere because it would be ruined in 10 seconds with devil's advocate posting how many people would unironically agree with B-Chan? "You know, a monarchy would make sense, plus he's really into anime"
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Jul 26, 2010 17:20
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While I don't believe Obama is a socialist communist supermuslim nazi, I do think that Obama needs to show his birth certificate.
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Jul 26, 2010 17:27
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there's at least one goon that posts non-ironically on freep and i would get banned for trolling the hell out of him if he found + responded to this thread outside of lf
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Jul 26, 2010 17:29
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The StormFrontification of Freep continues: "Code of silence corrodes morality, puts blacks at risk" http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2558857/posts quote:To: scottfactor quote:To: scottfactor quote:To: JLAGRAYFOX quote:To: Joe Boucher
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Jul 26, 2010 17:52
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Seventyfour posted:"Code of silence corrodes morality, puts blacks at risk" Anywhere else on the planet this thread title would be about the police 100% of the time.
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Jul 26, 2010 17:57
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How to respond to allegations of racism, Freep-style: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2557525/posts quote:To: DWar and from that same thread: 
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Jul 26, 2010 17:58
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how the gently caress are these people possible? What possible set of circumstances lead to these kind of people. Please explain this to a clueless canadian
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Jul 26, 2010 18:05
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Oh, man: this thread looks like a winner: "WHAT WILL YOU SACRIFICE?" http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2556607/posts quote:Posted on Wednesday, July 21, 2010 12:57:35 PM by A Navy Vet quote:To: A Navy Vet quote:To: unkus quote:To: unkus quote:To: A Navy Vet quote:To: A Navy Vet quote:To: A Navy Vet  quote:To: A Navy Vet quote:To: B-Chan quote:To: A Navy Vet quote:To: A Navy Vet quote:To: B-Chan quote:To: Upstate NY Guy; Neil E. Wright; dcwusmc shitling past the graveyard. quote:To: Blueflag quote:To: B-Chan quote:To: central_va; B-Chan There's 4 more pages of this, happy hunting.
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Jul 26, 2010 18:08
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Bandanna posted:how the gently caress are these people possible? What possible set of circumstances lead to these kind of people. Please explain this to a clueless canadian Belief in American Superiority, ultra-capitalist utopias, a nostalgia for a era of American moral goodness that never existed, a little bit of Confederate sympathy, and a dash of good old fashioned racism. Take all that, add a moderate black president, lovely economic climate, and 24/7 network news and you have historical revisionism and antagonism on a scale never seen before.
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Jul 26, 2010 18:09
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Freepers: I have lost faith in the goodness of blacks. also b-chan is going to get erased
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Jul 26, 2010 18:11
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GOPJ you are dangerously naive and inexperienced. You have clearly never lived in or visited a totalitarian country. I have. You are too willing to accept deceptive practices that are employed to get liars and totalitarians elected. As soon as the electoral process is corrupted to enable liars and cheats to get into public office, the causes of freedom and liberty are lost. It is one thing to sit here today, when there are no restrictions on what we can purchase, no restrictions on where we can go and no restrictions on what we can do and loftily pontificate on what we will and won't accept; up to the point of mass murder and death camps for our fellow Americans before we think it's time to take action. By that time, there is no action to take other than go willingly into the "shower" in hopes of extending your life a little longer, or charge the guards around you and be murdered on the spot. It is quite another to go down to the market and discover that you can't buy bread, or milk or cereal or any one of a myriad things because the market is out and doesn't know when there will be more. Those are very real scenarios coming our way because Obama’s tax increases and his unelected “czars” will punish you for being successful. Just this morning, there was a report on Fox news about his energy czar declaring that luxury shower heads would be banned because . . . . . . . he can. Obama’s tax increases will begin to take effect next year and they will affect ALL of us by limiting the discretionary income we have. So far, Obama has seen fit to take over 3 significant industries - automobile, health and, just recently, finance. In the future, his takeover of the financial industry will make it more difficult for Americans to get credit for cars, houses and the like. You may think it's ok for the Democrats in Congress to pass all of this legislation because they won the election and, to a point, I agree with you. But we conservatives are not “walking the field” because we lost, we are witnessing the fundamental paradigm shift of everything that America represents and has stood for for over 230 years because a group of totalitarians managed to get control of our government and are destroying our way of life. While you wait for the system to “self-correct”, the Obama totalitarians are putting things in place that are designed to ensure that the system NEVER self-corrects. How many challenges have been made to Obama’s eligibility, and how many have actually made it to the courtroom for a trial or hearing? By my count, there have been well over a dozen challenges filed and NONE has made it to court. Obama has spent nearly $2 million to seal or hide his official records, so that we can't discover the truth about him. But, you think it's ok because he won the election and the death camps and mass murders haven't been put in place . . . . . YET!! He continues his assault on the American way of life and is indoctrinating our children to believe what HE wants them to believe. But, you think that's ok because you don't see what's coming. I do. If Obama is able to complete his radical agenda, you will likely end up (if you're lucky) living through not only one of the worst periods of your life, you will also live through one of the worst periods in America's history. And, IF we are lucky, America will survive it and return to her former position as the beacon of freedom in the world. So, while you enjoy the comfort of your life today, remember that this time next year, you may not be so comfortable. Those taxes Obama has imposed will start to kick in. You could find yourself having to decide between gas for your car to get you to and from work, or buying food or tickets to a sporting event that you want to see. We still don't know EVERYTHING that he has in store for us but, from what I and many others have seen and heard from him to date, it won't be good. So, when you can't watch a show on TV that you want to see because Obama’s energy czar has decided that we aren't making the switch to “green” energy sources and “sustainable/renewable” energy such as solar and wind fast enough and just orders that it happen; you can feel comfortable with the fact that it isn't death camps and mass murder, it's just TV. Besides, they “won” and the methods they employ to win just don't matter. And, when you go cast your vote in 2012 for YOUR chosen candidate and a member of the New Black Panthers, armed with his club, accompanies you into the voting booth to ensure that you vote for the “right” candidate, you can rest assured that this is just the winning party enforcing its “rights” as the “winning party”. One domino at a time, you are losing your rights and freedoms but, as long as there are no death camps or mass murders; as long as you can still go to work in your chosen occupation; as long as you can still spend your discretionary income as you please; as long as you can still go where you want, it's ok. Do you know that, had HillaryCare passed in the 90’s, you would have to obtain permission from the government to travel from one region of the United States to another? Sort of like the old days of the Soviet Union!! But that's ok, because HillaryCare at least didn't have death camps or mass murders. When you have a little more experience in the world you may understand that the concern that many of us have about Obama and his radicalism isn't paranoia, it's because we have either lived it or seen it unfold and have enough history under our belts to recognize what is happening. In the meantime, sit back and enjoy your life. In another 5 months or so, American Idol makes its return, and you don't want to miss a single episode of that. Thank you for an enlightening discussion. I don't think you need to respond because we understand one another’s positions now.
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Jul 26, 2010 18:12
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I can't copy this over without losing its original formatting which is arguably the best part of this post. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2556607/posts?q=1&;page=222#202
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Jul 26, 2010 18:15
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Logikv9 posted:Belief in American Superiority, ultra-capitalist utopias, a nostalgia for a era of American moral goodness that never existed, a little bit of Confederate sympathy, and a dash of good old fashioned racism. who said Americans dont know how to cook.
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Jul 26, 2010 18:16
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Bandanna posted:who said Americans dont know how to cook. I don't think it's supposed to taste good
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Jul 26, 2010 18:19
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Bandanna posted:how the gently caress are these people possible? What possible set of circumstances lead to these kind of people. Please explain this to a clueless canadian and, among the other things mentioned, the case that it's very possible to wake up in the morning, put on fox news' morning shows, drive to work listening to rush limbaugh, sit in your cubicle all day listening to sean hannity and glenn beck's radio programs, drive home listening to laura ingraham, turn on the tv when you get home to bill o'reilly, glenn beck, and sean hannity's television programs, and fall asleep at night to begin the cycle anew in the morning thus, what's posted on freep seems perfectly sane we have a bit of an echo chamber effect in america
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Jul 26, 2010 18:25
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CraigK posted:and, among the other things mentioned, the case that it's very possible to wake up in the morning, put on fox news' morning shows, drive to work listening to rush limbaugh, sit in your cubicle all day listening to sean hannity and glenn beck's radio programs, drive home listening to laura ingraham, turn on the tv when you get home to bill o'reilly, glenn beck, and sean hannity's television programs, and fall asleep at night to begin the cycle anew in the morning is this better or worse than our media which tries to be so passive and mild and never offend anyone ever?
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Jul 26, 2010 18:28
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Bandanna posted:is this better or worse than our media which tries to be so passive and mild and never offend anyone ever? Worse.
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Jul 26, 2010 18:31
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I'm sorry but that topic is the best thing i've seen in a long time. It's one of those crazy topics that never last more than a few replies, but for some reason has outlived its lifetime and continues to generate pages of crazy, and when it goes off topic for even two or so posts it generates double the crazy as people throw their own conspiracy theories into the mix. The Best of B-Chan quote:I notice you didn't take any of my action. Lack of confidence. kk i lied b-chan is just a really pessimistic freeper quote:To: GOPJ remember how fdr was a terrible president (serious: this post is loving scary and i will leave immediately if this is even remotely close to actually happening (but it wont)) quote:To: GOPJ maybe like a conservative commune or something quote:To: wintertime i don't to get the same laws as dem gay muslim blacks quote:To: DustyMoment this is the first chapter of my new fanfic, how do you like it quote:To: ProfoundMan this guy is my new favorite freeper quote:To: A Navy Vet there is no answer and never will be an answer quote:To: DustyMoment i'm burned out. i think they stopped posting in it but that's fine because it's still full of goodies.
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Jul 26, 2010 18:35
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Logikv9 posted:I can't copy this over without losing its original formatting which is arguably the best part of this post. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2556607/posts?q=1&;page=222#202 this owns so much one sentence in how would a "Neo Maoist" deprive me of my known whereabouts?? 
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Jul 26, 2010 18:37
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Here, I'll do it:quote:To: Springfield Reformer That whole thread is gold.
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Jul 26, 2010 18:40
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"The monarchy of France helped supply and win the revolution!" He conveniently leaves out the part where the french rebel shortly after, in part due to the example set by the US revolution
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Jul 26, 2010 18:42
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The gently caress? Freep's go to post button is broken, that wasn't the post I was talking about (but it's still amazing). http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2556607/posts?q=1&;page=222#204
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Jul 26, 2010 18:42
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Logikv9 posted:The gently caress? Freep's go to post button is broken, that wasn't the post I was talking about (but it's still amazing). That just shows how great that thread is -- a randomly selected post is golden. And, yeah, I see why you didn't attempt to cut and paste that one.
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Jul 26, 2010 18:43
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I'm getting forum cancer, aren't I? You can tell me.
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Jul 26, 2010 18:45
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Freepers: If not this summer, never.
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Jul 26, 2010 18:54
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hint: it's never
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Jul 26, 2010 18:55
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i'm still holding out hope that we'll get a few incidents around the election
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Jul 26, 2010 18:59
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Smeep posted:Freepers: If not this summer, never. whole new meaning for 'senior year'
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ReidRansom posted:i'm still holding out hope that we'll get a few incidents around the election Why would you wish for that?
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