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McGiggins posted:What happenee to the lawsuit or whatevs? Lawsuits take ages, check back in two weeks
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Daztek posted:Lawsuits take ages, check back in two weeks And by “weeks” he means “years”
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Neltharak posted:Not _quite_ that fast but a month of work for a 3 person team would do it, assuming preexisting animated assets. Without those, you are looking to at least an animator on top of the team and maybe an extra two weeks© unless you are a team that already knows how to organize game projects. This is only true if a third-party company you contracted the work out to didn't already gently caress it up. If they did, even if you scrap all their work and start from scratch, you can never get the project off the ground, and it's all permanently the fault of the original company.
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I forget who I'm supposed to be upvoting. Is it Bribase this week?
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More words of wisdomquote:SQ42 might not be enough. Space games are a niche genre, PC only games reduces the market more, add in crazy high system requirements and it's not unreasonable to assume much of the target audience is already owed at least one copy of the game. https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/8j6lxf/cigs_growing_need_for_an_ongoing_revenue_stream/dyxsfvk/
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his nibs posted:I forget who I'm supposed to be upvoting. Is it Bribase this week? Cymelion
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Daztek posted:Cymelion Hey, I never stopped upvoting Cymelion
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his nibs posted:I forget who I'm supposed to be upvoting. Is it Bribase this week? I'd just go with random. Or the one that would get the others more upset.
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Passing this along without comment: https://twitter.com/dsmart/status/996382327449227269
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ZekeNY posted:Passing this along without comment: Legal bought the newspaper to derek this morning. Good boy Legal. You're a good boy yes you are.
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Thoatse posted:fidelity af Seriously, someone build a skatepark 400 miles wide and you have emergent gameplay.
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The entire time I knew him, he only ever had one goal. To block half the universe. If we let him finish, he can do it with a snap of his fingers.
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ZekeNY posted:Passing this along without comment: Could it be within the realm of possibility that Derek is overhyping his next blog post in an effort to attract attention that he has lost since being banned?
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Tinfoil Papercut posted:Could it be within the realm of possibility that Derek is overhyping his next blog post in an effort to attract attention that he has lost since being banned? Peetape is real 
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Hav posted:Peetape is real Sir, I have an Idris to sell you, it comes with LTI.
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.... Not a finance guy so excuse the questions. If someone was to pay themselves a large wage and a dividend and a yearly bonus and the same for their wife and Brother . Then say that the money ran out and this persons company was being sued for upward of 40 million dollars and they owed loans in excess of 30 million dollars to various banks around the world .Are they protected by having 16 different companies or are the personally liable for any monies ? Will the government agencies that have been building cases for the last 7 months be take pity and be reasonable or will they be nasty fudsters as well Also where is MoMa ? I hope he's ok wherever he is...
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EightAce posted:.... Not a finance guy so excuse the questions. If someone was to pay themselves a large wage and a dividend and a yearly bonus and the same for their wife and Brother . Then say that the money ran out and this persons company was being sued for upward of 40 million dollars and they owed loans in excess of 30 million dollars to various banks around the world .Are they protected by having 16 different companies or are the personally liable for any monies ? Will the government agencies that have been building cases for the last 7 months be take pity and be reasonable or will they be nasty fudsters as well Ortwin and the Elms brother will fix it
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Another bummer Tuesday morning for a paralegal. A 10,000 page document is tossed onto their desk to review.
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Quavers posted:Feedback locust No, that's a criticism cricket, learn the difference
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Tinfoil Papercut posted:Could it be within the realm of possibility that Derek is overhyping his next blog post in an effort to attract attention that he has lost since being banned? When was Derek banned? What happened?
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EightAce posted:.... Not a finance guy so excuse the questions. If someone was to pay themselves a large wage and a dividend and a yearly bonus and the same for their wife and Brother . Then say that the money ran out and this persons company was being sued for upward of 40 million dollars and they owed loans in excess of 30 million dollars to various banks around the world .Are they protected by having 16 different companies or are the personally liable for any monies ? Will the government agencies that have been building cases for the last 7 months be take pity and be reasonable or will they be nasty fudsters as well Dividend is usually up to the shareholders of the company, and will be accounted for. Wage and bonus would be covered by payroll in the jurisdiction of the company making payment, but is usually where you are domiciled (where you spend the majority of your residency _for tax purposes_). The company being sued would usually be a limited liability corporation, and would usually be a shell. In the UK, if the debts could not be settled during voluntary winding up proceedings, a liquidator will be sought to apportion the remains to outstanding creditors and the officers walk away. In the US, there are restructuring options before final bankruptcy, and that's where I get hazy on the US process, other than the eventual outcome also being the 'officers walk away'. I don't know about personal liability in the US, but usually it only comes into play when someone has been found guilty in civil or criminal court as a separate entity from the limited liability corporation. With regard to the loans, it depends on the loan itself. Signing for credit usually requires more than a pinkie swear and a promise to pay it back, especially after the banking regs tightened up a bit regarding loaning idiots money 'off the books' and the whole 2007 economic adventure, so there's usually collateral or something to offset the non-payment of the loan. Now there is a saying, 'If you owe the bank a thousand bucks, you have a problem. If you owe the bank a million bucks, the bank has a problem', so there's a bunch of leeway. I'll have to have a think about the criminal aspects, but it's possible for a criminal case to fire off a civil case, and vice versa. Lord_NeckBeard posted:When was Derek banned? What happened? Awaitin' for the train that goes home, sweet Mary Hopin' that the train is on time Sittin' downtown in a railway station One doxx over the line Whoooo do you love, I hope it's me I've bin a changin', as you can plainly see I felt the joy and I learned about the pain that my momma said If I should choose to make a part of me, surely strike me dead Now I'm one doxx over the line sweet Jesus One doxx over the line Sittin' downtown in a railway station One doxx over the line I'm waitin' for the train that goes home sweet Mary Hopin' that the train is on time Sittin' downtown in a railway station One doxx over the line
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Tinfoil Papercut posted:Could it be within the realm of possibility that Derek is overhyping his next blog post in an effort to attract attention that he has lost since being banned? I am going to say this is no overhype. Recent conversations I have had with Derek tell me that this is him having front row seats before the big dance. Take into consideration the post nineace just made and even Ray Charles could see what is about to happen. #freederek
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Lord_NeckBeard posted:When was Derek banned? What happened? The warlord can't help but doxx.
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EightAce posted:.... Not a finance guy so excuse the questions. If someone was to pay themselves a large wage and a dividend and a yearly bonus and the same for their wife and Brother . Then say that the money ran out and this persons company was being sued for upward of 40 million dollars and they owed loans in excess of 30 million dollars to various banks around the world .Are they protected by having 16 different companies or are the personally liable for any monies ? Will the government agencies that have been building cases for the last 7 months be take pity and be reasonable or will they be nasty fudsters as well It will protect that money in the event of a bankruptcy but not if they did anything illegal. I wouldn't expect Chris to suffer any consequences because of how fuzzy all of this is. Although Chris doesn't seem to be very responsible with money so expect him to be broke once the free money comes to an end.
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Hav posted:Dividend is usually up to the shareholders of the company, and will be accounted for. Wage and bonus would be covered by payroll in the jurisdiction of the company making payment, but is usually where you are domiciled (where you spend the majority of your residency _for tax purposes_). However the real hilarity ensues when it's discovered that they pierced the corporate veil. THEN you get to see some heads on the chopping block.
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Quavers posted:RAGE 2 looks cool and good What is it with Bethesda and post-apocalyptical brown games?
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EightAce posted:.... Not a finance guy so excuse the questions. If someone was to pay themselves a large wage and a dividend and a yearly bonus and the same for their wife and Brother . Then say that the money ran out and this persons company was being sued for upward of 40 million dollars and they owed loans in excess of 30 million dollars to various banks around the world .Are they protected by having 16 different companies or are the personally liable for any monies ? Will the government agencies that have been building cases for the last 7 months be take pity and be reasonable or will they be nasty fudsters as well No realistic chance to get any money out of them imo. Limited liability companies exist solely for that reason. Also you have to prove if there was a major misconduct/other criminal stuff, with good lawyers and stalling its gonna be hard/impossible. The CR clan just have to make sure they paid all their taxes and park their money in a 3rd country. gg Source: Storytime with uni prof
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Quavers posted:RAGE 2 looks cool and good Already played bulletstorm, thanks. DapperDon posted:However the real hilarity ensues when it's discovered that they pierced the corporate veil. THEN you get to see some heads on the chopping block. It's not that difficult, the trick is to not use the same damned officers on every damned document and make the shells wholly owned. I'm sanguine on actual charges because fincrime is really not a huge priority at the moment. Civil is where I think the action is. An Idris is a lot cheaper than a class action, arbitration clause be damned. But hey, my hobby is being wrong on the internet, and I've been doing it since 1994. I'm running a solid 50/50. DapperDon posted:I am going to say this is no overhype. Recent conversations I have had with Derek tell me that this is him having front row seats before the big dance. Take into consideration the post nineace just made and even Ray Charles could see what is about to happen. What is the crime.
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EightAce posted:.... Not a finance guy so excuse the questions. If someone was to pay themselves a large wage and a dividend and a yearly bonus and the same for their wife and Brother . Then say that the money ran out and this persons company was being sued for upward of 40 million dollars and they owed loans in excess of 30 million dollars to various banks around the world .Are they protected by having 16 different companies or are the personally liable for any monies ? Will the government agencies that have been building cases for the last 7 months be take pity and be reasonable or will they be nasty fudsters as well Wasn't there something about collateral for a loan too ? And a UK tax rebate ? All for an independent video game called SQ42 ? .. but wait, isn't SQ42 a game mode of Star Citizen according to CIG vs Crytek ? .. I'm getting confused. Can Chris enlighten me on what the answer is ? Nyast fucked around with this message at 15:28 on May 15, 2018 |
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AutismVaccine posted:The CR clan just have to make sure they paid all their taxes and park their money in a 3rd country. gg Amusingly I'm being chased for tax details in the US by my UK bank, which tends to indicate that despite other conversations taking place they're looking at the very low level transfers of cash across borders. Tax havens are everywhere, though. Monaco, for example.
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Lord_NeckBeard posted:When was Derek banned? What happened? There was a battle which caused him to lose the war.
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Daztek posted:
lol a little later on in that thread mr logicmonkey is talking about "Well that's how I was taught Agile" despite it being insanely obvious he p much just googled some poo poo like 5 minutes ago.
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What I’m noticing is that CIG has put themselves between a rock and a very hard place as far as actual game design goes. Because they have on one hand their funding from a bunch of diehard hardcore space sim nerds who want everything as punishing and complicated as possible, and on the other hand, the longevity of their playerbase that needs quality of life and streamlined gameplay features to get into the action fast. So any time they make any caveat to the latter, the former throws a loving fit, because their *DREAMS* implies a game that is the He-Citizen Woman Haters Club No Casuals Allowed is what Chris Roberts has dreamed up and is putting into action every waking moment, I mean, it’s why I took out a second mortgage on my house to get the highest rank of concierge! Doesn’t Chris care about us backers?! And at the end of the day, in their darkest nightmares, that makes them and their dream game no different than a Derek Smart Steaming poo poo Special.
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Mr.Tophat posted:There was a battle which caused him to lose the war. Derek wouldnt recognize a lost battle even if it shits on his head. e: in a way thats good and bad at the same time kinda
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Beet Wagon posted:lol a little later on in that thread mr logicmonkey is talking about "Well that's how I was taught Agile" despite it being insanely obvious he p much just googled some poo poo like 5 minutes ago. It's part of the newer 'fail fast' model that took place of actor diagrams, flowcharts and UML upfront. What's missing is the activity of the scrummaster or the scrum meetings that will look to a _Design document_ that provides the overall narrative that is broken into smaller atomic 'stories'/tickets/tasks that ideally you can fit into 'x' story points. So for example, we have a story point = 4 hours, and when we decide on the things to do, we'll estimate the story points for a task. Estimates are entirely personal and not a metric to game; important distinction. They're a self-reviewed metric to allow forward planning. The reason for the 'only do the minimum' is that the story _should be simple_ enough to be a title, although I personally think this is one of the weaknesses (Research doesn't just get 'tossed to the wind', but it's rarely treated as part of a story - pet peeve). Ultimately it's about the tetris of having a bunch of people of differing ability and _familiarity_ contributing to the same codebase. It's also buzzwordy as gently caress, so; 
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AutismVaccine posted:Derek wouldnt recognize a lost battle even if it shits on his head. Self awareness is difficult I agree
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Taintrunner posted:What I’m noticing is that CIG has put themselves between a rock and a very hard place as far as actual game design goes. And they've proved without the shadow of a doubt that they're not technically capable of delivering either experience.
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You know it's some outlandish made up bullshit when even Derek is all, 'hold up, I need to fact check this before I publish it'.
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