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I apparently have a lot to say about this movie, as this is turning into my longest write-up yet. As a warning.
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thrawn527 posted:I apparently have a lot to say about this movie, as this is turning into my longest write-up yet. As a warning. That is ok though, because it is one of the better Bond films and it feels different from every Bond film before it. It's gruesome, personal, and kind of low key when all things are considered since it focuses on pretty much taking out a drug lord who was already captured once.
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 Licence to Kill I am now fully on board the Timothy Dalton love train. I thoroughly enjoyed Licence to Kill. It was fun, exciting, emotional, terrifying, funny, and simply an all around great movie. And not just that, but a great Bond movie. I’m confused when people say this doesn’t feel like a James Bond movie. It absolutely does. He has gadgets, pithy one liners, charm coming out of the rear end, and incredible action sequences. It is a touch darker than usual, but I think that’s the movie’s biggest strength. Dalton needs a script like this to really show off what he can do. This movie shows Bond driven to a level beyond where’s he’s been before. The only time I can think of where this sense of revenge could have taken hold of Bond was at the end of On Her Majesty’s Secret Service and the beginning of Diamonds are Forever, in his pursuit of Blofeld. But Lazenby never gets the opportunity, and Connery largely ignores this motivation in his performance. But this is exactly what Bond would and should do given what happens. This movie is true to the character of Bond, in that if something were to attack anyone on the short list of those he calls “friend”, he would bring down all the talent and skills he has to be a one man army against those responsible. Almost like a John Wick Bond movie. It’s a personal, powerful story, and I love it. As far it being more violent...I mean, I guess if you count amount of blood and type of scream being uttered, sure. But it’s essentially removing the filter of cartoon from the violence that has existed from the start. The depressurized head explosion is terrifying, yes, but so is the death of Kananga in Live and Let Die, for basically the same reason, only there it’s played for laughs. But it’s still death via unstoppable head explosion. The Bond series is a violent as hell series, all they’ve really done here is add louder screams and more blood, making the viewer recoil, saying, “drat, these deaths really are pretty violent.” Another thing to note is that I don’t have a complaint about a single actor in this movie. I tried thinking of one person on screen for longer than 5 seconds who didn’t give it their all, and I really can’t. (Okay, maaaaaybe Felix, who has a pretty awkward line delivery.) Both Bond girls are great, which is rare as hell. Robert Davi, as the main villain Franz Sanchez, is pitch perfect. Even Q has to try a little harder than usual, being in the field, genuinely concerned for Bond, and disappointed whenever Bond just wants him to go home. It’s a breath of fresh air. Also, keep in mind that I’m watching this through the lense of having watched the Daniel Craig Bond movies. This comes off feeling like a proto-Craig-Bond film, almost like they picked up the themes and tone and explored it further. It honestly gives me a better appreciation for them, as well, seeing what’s hidden in their DNA. The movie opens as Bond, Felix Leiter (here played again, strangely, by David Hedison, returning after having played him 16 years ago in Live and Let Die), and someone actually named Sharkey (played by Frank McRae) are in a limo heading to Felix’s wedding. And doing so in some sharp looking grey tuxedos.  While driving across Seven Mile Bridge in the Florida Keys, they are essentially pulled over by a DEA helicopter. Apparently Felix, who works for the CIA, has been working with them to apprehend drug kingpin Franz Sanchez, and Sanchez has made a rare appearance in the country, so it’s now or never to capture him, and Felix abandons his soon-to-be wife to make the bust. Bond, the best man, of course, comes along, “As an observer only.” An observer with a gun. Sanchez, it seems, is in the country to track down his girlfriend Lupe Lamora, played by the gorgeous Talisa Soto, who has run away with another man (that I will call Dead Meat). The fanciest gun fight you’ve ever seen ensues, and, after briefly meeting with Lupe, Bond and Felix take to a helicopter to chase down Sanchez, who is escaping in a plane. And I now have to eat my words in the last review, because we were certainly not done with extravagant plane stunts, as James leaps from the helicopter, cable in hand, and skyhooks Sanchez’s plane, letting the helicopter carry it off. It’s a great stunt all around. Like a smaller scale version of the opening of The Dark Knight Rises. I love stuff like this.  Never ones to miss a chance at a great entrance, Felix and James take this opportunity to sky dive down to the wedding. So did Felix pick south Florida for the wedding on the off chance Sanchez would show up? Whatever, it’s a fun scene.  The opening credits start, and they’re pretty great, even if I don’t understand why they focus so heavily at the beginning on an Olympus camera. I’m a big fan of this song, by Gladys Knight (which I believe borrows the horn from Goldfinger?). The soundtrack itself, this time composed by Michael Kamen, is also wonderful, like a blending of standard action soundtrack and Bond motifs, while also mixing in some subtle Spanish guitar. Back at the wedding, the bride, Della, is seeming a little too into James, which makes me think Felix made a big mistake having him as best man. That being said, I enjoy the hell out of Dalton in these wedding scenes. He’s fun, charismatic, and just all around happy, which is a break from how he’s normally played (the most happy I would say Moore ever got is better described as “glib”). I totally buy that this Bond is old friends with Felix and Della. Anyway, James finds Felix talking with a woman named Pam Bouvier, played by Carey Lowell, who makes a quick exit, wanting nothing to do with him. Felix gives a plot dump about Sanchez, before he and Della give James his best man gift, a ridiculously unsafe lighter (a Felix Leiter lighter! I’m sorry) that spits up a flame around 6 inches high. I see they’ve taken a lesson from Q, and wanted to give him something that will only come in handy in the specific scenario he’ll be in by the end of the movie. That night, Della makes a comment about James being the next to get married, but it gets all uncomfortable as Felix points out James was married before. They don’t go into specifics, or even mention Tracy’s name, but it’s a nice moment of continuity.  While this is going on Sanchez has bribed DEA agent Ed Killifer with $2 million to help him escape, because of course he has, and that night Sanchez’s henchman Dario, played by a baby faced Benecio Del Toro (who’s great in this movie, as a creepy sociopath), ambush and kidnap Felix and Della. I’m….pretty sure they rape Della, because Dario makes mention of how they gave her a “nice honeymoooooon”, and that’s extremely uncomfortable. They definitely kill her, though, so that sucks. Felix gets a rough go as well, though. Sanchez sets up a pulley-weight system, with a hunk of meat on one side and Felix on the other, dangling over a shark pit, leading to Felix getting his loving legs bit off. But he lives. It’s a pretty gruesome concept, but you don’t really see anything.  James, who was on his way out of town before hearing of Sanchez’s escape, rushes to Felix’s house to find a dead Della and a critical Felix (who is wearing a note saying “He disagreed with something that ate him”. Awesome). Bond kind of loses his poo poo, and swears revenge, but the DEA refuses to help because Sanchez has retreated back to his home country, which is out of their jurisdiction and basically run by Sanchez. So Bond and Sharkey star their own investigation, leading them to a marine research center run by Milton Krest, played by Anthony Zerbe, who looks incredibly familiar to me, but I think it’s just from the Matrix sequels and Star Trek Insurrection? Yeesh, that’s a rough career. (Yes, I know he was apparently in good movies like Cool Hand Luke, but I don’t remember him in it.) Krest is one of Sanchez’s henchmen, and is using this facility to smuggle cocaine using a submarine. Because he’s a Bond villain. Anyway, Bond sees Felix’s boutonniere on the ground, so he knows something is up. Bond and Sharkey break in at night, and finds drugs hidden in a drawer filled with maggots. Eww. Oh, and he also tosses an unconscious guard into said drawer. Again, ewwwww. He takes out another guard by using a hook to toss him into an electric eel tank, and I’m loving the different ways he’s using the environment to take out the guards. He’s attacked by Killifer, but with Sharkey’s help, gets the upper hand, and Killifer ends up dangling above the shark pit like Felix. He tries to bribe Bond, saying that the briefcase he was carrying has $2 million in it, and that they can “split it”. So he’s read the situation wrong. Bond, saying, “You’ve earned it, you keep it, old buddy,” tosses the briefcase to him, knocking him down to become shark food. Because Dalton’s Bond is a stone cold bastard. And I love it, it’s a great moment.  The next day, Bond is corralled into the Hemingway House by two men in suits, and for a quick moment you get some Blofeld imagery and a cat strolls past a mysterious man. But then they drop that, and you find out M is here to reign in Bond. After Bond tries to resign because M doesn’t want to help him track down Sanchez, M revokes his Licence to kill, and demands his gun. Bond, having none of that, runs away, narrowly avoiding an MI-6 sniper. It’s an intense scene, as MI-6 has been a staple of Bond movies, and here they are shooting at Bond, removing his lifeline.  Bond boards the Wavekrest, a ship run by Krest, and where Sanchez has stashed Lupe...I guess to make sure she doesn’t run away again. Krest is pretty overtly hitting on Lupe, which is really stupid of him given who Sanchez is. Anyway, I like the way Bond sneaks under the ship, wearing a giant manta ray suit. It’s silly, but not “laser off the bottom of a car” silly, if you get what I mean. He foils the drug shipment, and steals five million dollars of Sanchez’s money. In the process, he comes across Lupe again, holding a knife to her throat and uttering a chilling, “Make a sound, and you’re dead.” She convinces him she’s there against her will, though, and lies to protect him (Bond holding a knife to her back might have had something to do with it, but whatever).  Upon discovering that Krest’s men have killed Sharkey, Bond starts to see red again and impales a diver with a harpoon gun, then diving overboard and stealing the diver’s scuba gear. What proceeds is an incredibly fun action set piece. Bond is attacked by numerous scuba divers, one of which uses a knife to cut his air line (instead of, like, stabbing him, but y’know, Bond movie bad guy). Bond, in order to get out of the scuba diver dogpile, uses one of their harpoon guns, shooting the seaplane being used to take cash out, causing the plane to pull up out of the water. This means Bond gets to jet ski (on his feet) behind the plane, just as the Bond theme kicks in. That’s an awkward sentence, but it looks awesome.  He manages to get up to the seaplane and climbs on board as it’s taking off, and the movie once again shows me how dumb I was for saying plane stunts were done in this series. He sneaks into the cockpit, and throws both of the men out of the window. There are any number of shots from the movie I could include that all look equally incredible, but here’s just one example.  It’s a great scene. Anyway, Bond gets to fly away with a plane load of Sanchez’s money. Which will be convenient for the rest of the film, since he’s been without MI-6’s finances thus far. He heads to Felix’s house to check on a report he saw Felix hide earlier in the movie, where he learns that all of Sanchez’s informants have been killed, except one, Pam Bouvier, whom he met earlier, briefly. He meets with her at a rendezvous location setup by Felix at a local bar, where they’re also run into Dario, presumably sent to kill her. A hilarious bar fight breaks out, where everyone starts fighting each other, and I’m reminded that these kinds of things used to just happen in movies. Someone tries to kill Bond with a god drat swordfish (which never tended to just happen in movies), before Pam blows a hole in the wall with a shotgun for them to escape through (she gets results). Pam is shot in the back during the escape, but reveals she was wearing a bulletproof vest, and she comments about, like, awesome Kevlar is. Bond tells her to leave all of this to the “professionals”, and we find out she is a former Army pilot and ex-CIA. Which shuts Bond’s mouth pretty quickly. Then they run out of gas and have sex, because OF COURSE THEY DO. Anyway, he hires her to help, both for info and to fly him to Republic of Isthmus (wherever that’s supposed to be), using Sanchez’s own money. So that’s fun.  We get a brief scene here back in MI-6 headquarters where M tells Moneypenny that he’s sending someone to stop James, and Moneypenny calls up Q-branch, but I wish the scene just wasn’t here. The Q reveal coming up would be so much better if it came out of nowhere. Bond checks into a hotel suite, and gives Pam her money and tells her to get lost, which she’s pretty pissed about. He then heads to the bank where Sanchez keeps his money (and I think runs the bank itself?) and deposits all of the stolen cash into a new account, where Pam comes back immediately with a much shorter haircut as Bond’s “executive assistant”. The bank also has a casino attached, which is an odd arrangement, to be sure. But if it gets Bond into a tux and playing cards, I’m all for it. Bond decides he wants to get Sanchez’s attention, so he loses a quarter of a million dollars, and then wins around half a million dollars, playing all of the hands at a blackjack table. Which, understandably, gets the job done. And then Wayne loving Newton enters the film.  I have no idea what Wayne Newton is doing in this movie, but he’s honestly pretty great as a creepy spiritual Professor who is actually operating a front for Sanchez to hold live televised drug deals in code. So I’ll allow the hell out of it. Back at the blackjack table, the dealer is replaced by Lupe, and Bond sends Pam to get him a drink. Bond really treats her like poo poo this whole movie, I’m not sure why she wants anything to do with him by the end. Like here, he has Lupe take him up to see Sanchez, leaving Pam at the bar where she was getting his drink. Oh well.  Bond poses as an assassin looking for work and Sanchez hires him, but it’s mainly to get a look at Sanchez’s office setup, such as his fully armored windows, which naturally pose a problem if he wants to assassinate him later with a sniper rifle (which he doesn’t have yet, but that’s fine). They head back to the hotel where they hear Bond’s “uncle” has arrived, who is of course Q. So I guess Moneypenny and Q have gone rogue now, too? Bond tackles Q and I’m just left saying, “Wait don’t hurt the old man!” He gives Bond a bunch of gadgets, most of which he won’t actually use, like an exploding alarm clock and a camera that shoots lasers and takes X-ray pictures, so I have to assume this scene is just here to appease people who would have complained about having no cool Bond gadgets in the movie. He also gives him a sniper rifle that codes itself to his palm print, so only he can use it, and I had no idea that scene in Skyfall was a reference to an earlier movie. So that’s cool. They decide to go to sleep, and Pam takes the main room with one bed and shuts the door, and Dalton’s Bond decides to not do what Connery’s Bond would have done (break down the door and rape Pam), instead saying, “I hope you don’t snore, Q.” It’s a nice moment.  Bond sneaks back into the Sanchez’s bank/casino and places explosive toothpaste (courtesy of Q) along the bottom of Sanchez’s armored windows, and it’s a slow, carefully planned break in that’s really well done. Inside, Sanchez is holding a meeting with a bunch of Chinese drug dealers, and one of them is played by Cary-Hiroyuki Tagawa, meaning we actually have two Mortal Kombat actors in this movie, so that’s cool. Bond heads across the street to get into position to snipe Sanchez, telling Q to get lost, which he seems pretty sad about. He sees Pam through a window, next to Sanchez’s office, meeting with one of Sanchez’s men and of course assumes she’s betrayed him, which she of course hasn’t. Bond blows the explosives, opening the windows, but is attacked by two literal ninjas before he can get his shot off. They subdue him and take him to an abandoned warehouse to question him. There we find out they’re Hong Kong Narcotics run by Cary-Hiroyuki Tagawa, and are pissed off at him for almost ruining their plans to find the location of Sanchez’s lab, which he plans on taking them to tomorrow. A man named Fallon also joins them, who was sent by M to bring Bond back dead or alive. But Sanchez’s men attack the warehouse and rescue Bond, killing everyone else. So that’s both helpful and sucks, but I guess it’s good he got the job with Sanchez. Bond spins the whole thing as how someone must have recognized him in the casino and that’s why they attacked, and he says that he used to be a British agent. Which is great, because the best lies have a bit of truth mixed in as well. He also manages to plant seeds of suspicion about the stolen money (that he stole) in his organization. Sanchez leaves Bond alone with Lupe, which is the worst thing a person can do with their girlfriend. The escape Sanchez’s island house, and get back to the hotel, where Bond goes ballistic at Pam, still assuming she’s a traitor. But she reveals that she was trying to make a deal for Sanchez’s stinger missiles, but Bond’s attack screwed the whole thing up, so Sanchez still has the missiles. Bond looks a bit shaken up about his vendetta causing both this and the Hong Kong Narcotics plans up, and I’ve been plot dumping for so long I’m just gonna move onto to something crazy. Bond and Pam, with Lupe’s help, sneak on board the Wavekrest and place the $5 million he stole in a hyperbaric chamber, leading Sanchez to believe Krest is the one who stole it, leading him to kill him in horrifying fashion. He puts Krest in the chamber, cranks the pressure up, and then decompresses it using an axe, making Krest’s head balloon and explode. I’ll admit, it’s pretty gross (much like in Live and Let Die). When someone points out to Sanchez that the money is still in there, and now covered in the sticky remains of Krest, Sanchez gets one of the best lines in the move and says, “Launder it.”  (I won't show what happens next.) By revealing this “treachery”, Bond is let into Sanchez’s inner circle, and is brought to Sanchez’s base, which is an incredible looking meditation retreat. As Bond villain lairs go, it’s somewhere below the ones in You Only Live Twice and The Spy Who Loved Me, but it looks great. It seems Sanchez’s plan is he can dissolve cocaine into gasoline, sell it disguised as fuel, and then pull the cocaine back out after it’s been smuggled. That has got to be some bad smelling cocaine, but they all seem happy about it. All the sales are conducted by the previously mentioned televangelist Professor Joe Butcher, played by Wayne Newton, and is coordinated by a man named Truman-Lodge, who is a character I feel so bad for. He’s Sanchez’s business manager, and he comes off as a trying to ignore Sanchez’s Bond villain tendencies, and just wants to run a successful drug cartel, and is just exasperated every time you see him. Like, this guy must exist for every Bond villain, right? Someone who wonders why Goldfinger needs an elaborate model of Fort Knox that comes out of the ground, and if it’s really worth it financially to spend money on a table with restraints below their diamond cutting laser. He’s a sad sap. At the same time, Pam sneaks onto the base by seducing Professor Butcher before pulling a gun and locking him in his room, and it’s an hilarious scene where Butcher doesn’t even really seem to mind, he’s just so smitten with her. Bond, who appears to have forgotten that he fought Dario earlier and that he might recognize him, walks around in the open during Sanchez’s presentation to the Asian drug dealers, and of course Dario recognizes him and pulls a gun. So Bond starts a fire in the lab. And we’re off to the races because it’s nonstop action from here. Bond is captured yet again, and a furious Sanchez puts Bond on a conveyor belt that will drop him into a giant terrifying looking shredder. It’s an effectively scary scene, as I don’t think Bond has been this close to death since the coffin scene in Diamonds Are Forever, dangling over the shredder. Sanchez leaves Dario to finish the job, but Pam shoes up and shoots Dario, letting Bond grab him and toss him into the shredder. The sound Dario makes as he dies is...not pleasant.  Sanchez flees as his base is set aflame, taking 4 tankers full of his cocaine gasoline. And holy crap there is so much going on in this scene. Bond drops from a plane into one of the tankers, and works his way to the front while Sanchez shoots at him from the next car over. Pretty impressive stunt work, as Bond ends up on the side of and below the truck. Eventually he takes control of the truck, and proceeds through a crazy town of stunts. He runs one truck off the road. Only to have a missile fired at him. Which he avoids by driving his truck up onto a mound of dirt, putting it onto two wheels, letting the missile fly underneath him and to the run-off-the-road truck behind him. And he lands the truck on the jeep of the henchmen. It’s loving nuts, and is almost too silly for me. Almost. But it’s one of the few non-sensical parts of the movie, so I’ll allow it. Then he ditches the tanker portion of his truck, sending it into a third truck, blowing it and the cocaine fuel up.  Then, in order to drive his truck through the fire he just created, he...hits the gas really fast, causing his truck to go up on the back wheels? He pops a wheelie and I have no clue how. This part may in fact be too silly for me. Bond jumps onto the last tanker truck, and so does Sanchez. Only he has a machete. So advantage Sanchez. They fight, but the tanker loses control, and they are both thrown from the truck, and Sanchez is soaked in gasoline (and probably high as a kite). Before Sanchez can kill Bond with the machete, Bond asks, “Don’t you want to know why?” before pulling out the lighter Felix and Della gave him at the beginning, lighting Sanchez on fire and blowing up the final tanker. It’s a rough way to go, but Bond finally has his revenge, and Pam picks him up in a truck.  Back at a party, Bond receives a phone call from Felix, who is looking, like, way way WAY too chipper for a man who had his new wife killed and his legs bitten off by a shark. Anyway, he says M is offering Bond his job back (how does Felix know this?). So that’s that. Bond starts making out with Lupe, but when he sees that it bothers Pam, he stops and goes to her instead. I guess they’re interchangeable? I’d be bothered, but it’s a Bond movie, of course they’re interchangeable. I’m down right shocked they both lived through the whole film. Bond has a great moment where he leaps down from the second story into a pool next to Pam, he pulls her in as well, and they kiss. Roll credits. It’s not that it doesn’t have some flaws. I get that it totally does. But I don’t care, I love this movie. The action is top notch, the stunts are amazing, Robert Davi makes for a fantastic villain, and Dalton is at his absolute best. It is a bit darker around the edges, and more violent, but it still has the same bones, and silliness. There’s an emotional core to this story that I don’t think I’ve seen from a Bond film before this (and won’t until Casino Royale knocks it out of the park). And I’m left wishing we had gotten that third Dalton movie. Oh well, onto a new era, the Bond movie was my favorite as a teenager, and an actor who deserved better movies than he, for the most part, got. James Bond will return in Goldeneye! thrawn527 fucked around with this message at 22:35 on Jul 21, 2015 |
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Jul 21, 2015 22:30
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Please note, two reviews less than one week apart will not now become a thing. I just had some rare spare time.
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Jul 21, 2015 22:32
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Timby posted:Star Trek V, Ghostbusters II, Lethal Weapon 2, Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade, Batman and Licence to Kill all came out within a few weeks of each other. One of these things is not like the others. One of these things just doesn't belong. Wizchine posted:True - but of all the Bonds, I like him the least. I've never felt compelled to give those two movies a second watch. I think you should give them both, or at least License to Kill, another shot, honestly... biased or not.
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Jul 21, 2015 22:42
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So apparently, there's a composer on YouTube who disliked that the final chase of LTK was left without a musical score. So he took some of his original music and used it to score the chase. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Sg4K7KP5jE
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Jul 21, 2015 23:11
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Also I thought Pam Bouvier rejected Bond until the end of the movie? That's how I remember interpreting that. Even after the shotgun through wall > escape part it was him trying and I thought failing, both there and the hotel room.
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Jul 21, 2015 23:47
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I totally forgot that Wayne loving Newton was in that movie.
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Jul 21, 2015 23:51
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I really loving love License to Kill. Remember the beginning vividly when it was one of my first Bonds, and after the maggot scene, my mother barred me from watching the rest (too late! The shark swingset still gives me chills when thinking about it). Rarely happened with movies we watched, actually, but it really is loving brutal. What really stuck with me is one innocous line, though: after the scene where the unconscious guy gets punted in with the maggots, MI6 debriefs and they say they found 3 bodies. But counting, that means the maggot guy loving died in that closet full of wriggling little fuckers. Good lord. Far later, I saw it lying around as a single DVD and had to have it (rarely buy movies just like that, but I wanted to see what I had missed). And it got even better! This is easily one of my favourite Bonds, he is quite beautifully unhinged in it. I can understand people who say they don't think it's a "typical" Bond or whatever, but that matters jack to me, it's a great movie with probably the best scenes of actual tension in any Bond. And yes, I do agree that the final truck stunts get a little too much but it's fine, I can excuse that, have a little fun destroying that villain fucker, movie. You earned it.
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Jul 21, 2015 23:54
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thrawn527 posted:It’s a pretty gruesome concept, but you don’t really see anything. Actually, if you pay close attention when they do an underwater shot, you see that one of Felix's legs gets chomped off and that they show the bloody stump for just a few seconds. I think one of the best little details in this movie is when Felix is being attacked by the shark, they show Killifer actually getting ill instead of just taking the whole thing stoically or in humor like Sanchez is. Although Sanchez's lines in response to Felix are humorous in such a dark manner. "See you in Hell, Sanchez!" "No, today is the first day of the rest of your life..." Everett McGill does a pretty good job as Killifer with what little screen time he has in this film. But I think this role isn't quite as memorable as Stilgar in David Lynch's Dune or the main henchman in Under Siege 2.
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Jul 22, 2015 00:01
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I'm pretty sure whether Leiter's mutilation gets shown depends on what cut you have: the older DVDs have the US theatrical cut, which trims that and some other stuff, but the newer ones have the international cut and show it, if I remember correctly.
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Jul 22, 2015 00:21
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Psion posted:Also I thought Pam Bouvier rejected Bond until the end of the movie? That's how I remember interpreting that. Even after the shotgun through wall > escape part it was him trying and I thought failing, both there and the hotel room. I'll check it again tomorrow when I can, but I'm 90% positive the scene ends with them kissing on the boat as the camera pans away. Which, in Bond movie language...
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Jul 22, 2015 01:35
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drat, I have a hankering to watch this movie again. It's always been one of my favorite Bond flicks, and the last time I saw it was 7 years ago and dubbed in Spanish. My comprehension wasn't great at the time, so I only understood the bare-bones of the plot; thankfully, revenge stories are universally easy to follow. Dalton was always my favorite Bond growing up, and I think he remains in the #1 slot for me. It's nice to read so much positivity in this thread regarding him because he tends to get a lot of flak from fans. Time to order some DVDs...
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Jul 22, 2015 02:16
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Michael Kamen's soundtrack for Licence to Kill is one of the only negatives about it, and pretty much universally derided among film score people in general, especially coming off of one of the best in Barry's career. I'm wondering why the opinions seem to be so Bizarro on the scores  Also Patti's "If You Ask Me To" at the end of the movie is so much better than Celine Dion's that it's unfathomable that Celine's remake somehow got like 50 times more popular. It makes no sense at all. Darko fucked around with this message at 03:08 on Jul 22, 2015 |
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Jul 22, 2015 03:06
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One of the great things I love about License is that it takes a sly wink at the impossibility of Bond's actions in the scene where Krest recounts the plane hijack to Sanchez and he doesn't buy the story one bit. I have a feeling Kira's incredulous reactions in Living Daylights during the car chase was also supposed be a punt at how the whimsical gadgets just don't fit in with the realistic shift in tone, but manages to inadvertently break the fourth wall. Also death by maggots is amusing, the buggers won't actually eat you alive unless you're necrotic somewhere. I suppose if that guy did die, he was suffocated.
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Jul 22, 2015 03:32
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thrawn527 posted:I'll check it again tomorrow when I can, but I'm 90% positive the scene ends with them kissing on the boat as the camera pans away. Which, in Bond movie language... He lifts her up onto the horn after they negotiate her fee, are surprised when it goes off, smooch and then when the camera pans away, you can see them go down onto the deck for some sexy time.
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Jul 22, 2015 04:13
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So I just found out that Living Daylights' theme actually has two versions due to clashes between A-ha and Barry. A-ha prefers their own version which has more of an 80s pop feel to it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bqITfmVdUI I personally love The Living Daylights' theme, it's one of my favourites, but listening to A-ha's version I realise that most of what I love about it is thanks to John Barry's instrumentals. The A-ha one comes across as kind of dated to be honest. Whereas I adore that opening riff with the orchestra and that deep base synth in the film version here:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXM4eIoPZUU and it has a far better Bond feel to it. Barry's work on TLD is excellent- I really love how each of the Bonds have their own particular set of instrumental motifs.
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AFoolAndHisMoney posted:So I just found out that Living Daylights' theme actually has two versions due to clashes between A-ha and Barry. A-ha prefers their own version which has more of an 80s pop feel to it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bqITfmVdUI
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This is really interesting, because I loving love the song TLD, so much that I bought a best of A-ha album for cheap to check out more of them. And I loving hated it, it's the most boring music. I only knew Take On Me before, which I think is pretty good, turns out that's like the only other good song. Disappointing. And their album version is also far more boring than the Bond one! Apparently they just don't have taste in their own music  .
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Jul 22, 2015 07:15
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Spectre trailer just dropped: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTDaET-JweU Loved seeing Craig in a white tux and Waltz in a nehru jacket And the reworked OHMSS theme 
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Jul 22, 2015 08:07
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Give me two hours of Christoph Waltz smiling into the camera and I'm happy. Trailer was good.
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Jul 22, 2015 08:31
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Oh man I love that return of OHMSS's theme.
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Jul 22, 2015 08:56
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Cacator posted:Spectre trailer just dropped: AFoolAndHisMoney posted:Oh man I love that return of OHMSS's theme. Yesss. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rt5WY7aFh7s
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Jul 22, 2015 09:21
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Hah I wonder if the "make me dissapear" line was a lob at the invisible Aston.
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Jul 22, 2015 10:11
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Also, speaking of James Bond music, someone has uploaded (part of) the N46 Goldeneye soundtrack in a much higher quality: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ud16_ptL90Y Here is the article explaining what actually happened; they were already available on composer Grant Kirkhopes website for years, nobody really noticed it seems: http://www.vgmonline.net/the-truth-behind-goldeneye-007s-uncompressed-soundtrack/
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Jul 22, 2015 10:18
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I googled a few of the more uncommon names on the memorial wall in the trailer and you won't be surprised to learn at least some of them are people who work in the film industry and are probably crew on the movie.
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Jul 22, 2015 11:17
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Cacator posted:Spectre trailer just dropped: MAN: You had no authority. None. Mexico City. What were you doing there? BOND: I was returning some videotapes.
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Jul 22, 2015 15:18
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Disappointed there's no misheard lines to the degree of "You are a oval office dancing in a hurricane".
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Jul 22, 2015 15:24
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WebDog posted:Hah I wonder if the "make me dissapear" line was a lob at the invisible Aston. I thought it was "maybe disappear".
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Jul 22, 2015 15:27
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drunkill posted:Here is the article explaining what actually happened; they were already available on composer Grant Kirkhopes website for years, nobody really noticed it seems:
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Jul 22, 2015 20:01
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AFoolAndHisMoney posted:Oh man I love that return of OHMSS's theme. And now feels like an appropriate time to re-post this killer mash-up of the OHMSS and View to a Kill themes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2GS6kfkTUE
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Jul 22, 2015 20:09
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My google-fu has been failing me, how often has the OHMSS theme been used in other Bond movies? It feels like the answer is "not nearly enough."
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Jul 22, 2015 21:41
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Bruceski posted:My google-fu has been failing me, how often has the OHMSS theme been used in other Bond movies? Never, which is a crying shame. It hasn't become a signature motif the same way the main theme and '007' have.
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Jul 22, 2015 21:46
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Antti posted:Never, which is a crying shame. It hasn't become a signature motif the same way the main theme and '007' have. Really? Weird. I didn't recall it showing up often but as soon as it hit in the trailer I recognized it, and that's unusual for me.
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Jul 22, 2015 21:50
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It's a bit of a fan favourite and there's a billion rearrangements and remixes of it, but I am 99 percent sure it has never been used on screen outside of OHMSS itself.
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Jul 22, 2015 21:52
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It was in the trailer for The Incredibles (and the spaceship theme from you only live twice was homaged in the movie itself, as well as Austin Powers 2).
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Jul 22, 2015 22:03
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drunkill posted:Also, speaking of James Bond music, someone has uploaded (part of) the N46 Goldeneye soundtrack in a much higher quality: Now that is has been pointed out to me, I can't unsee the hand mouth. Also, I think I played the game before I saw the movie, and it was actually what got me into watching Bond movies.
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Jul 22, 2015 22:54
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blackguy32 posted:Also, I think I played the game before I saw the movie, and it was actually what got me into watching Bond movies.
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Jul 22, 2015 23:32
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Goldeneye might have been my first movie tie-in game because I remember being very confused that after the first level it started going differently than the movie.
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This is the first James Bond game I played: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYc3JQLSj84
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