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cumshitter posted:i still think one of the best gambling places in any video game was Lufia II's gambling parlor. never made enough money to get a bunny sword but it still ruled lufia 2 had a lot of best-ofs
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Dec 2, 2018 17:47
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i thought they were making a parasite eve netflix thing oh well anything can happen when you have netflix involved
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Dec 2, 2018 17:48
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A Handed Missus posted:*RDR2 Online* And yet pieces of poo poo enable this crap.
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Dec 2, 2018 17:55
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:It's anticlimactic in the sense that it's literally not the climax of the game. Because the real antagonist isn't an evil person or bad people, it's the very cosmic forces which deterministically shaped the course of human affairs from before the game even began. the level of tragedy depends on how much you think jowy needs an rear end-beating personally, gently caress that guy
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Dec 2, 2018 17:59
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ate poo poo on live tv posted:And yet pieces of poo poo enable this crap. It's especially dumb because a lot of activities you can earn money with arent in online, robbing stores for example.
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Dec 2, 2018 18:02
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also I finished Jimmy And The Pulsating Mass Jimmy is a good boy who is trying his best the game is kind of a huge downer once you figure out what's going on, doubly so because it's normally such a lovely cop-out twist that every nerd loves to speculate about this did it better than most(because it was clearly planned from the start) so it's still sad though
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Dec 2, 2018 18:03
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ate poo poo on live tv posted:And yet pieces of poo poo enable this crap. i've been going from being disgusted with the companies, to being disgusted with the customers. when people are practically gagging for the opportunity to pay up, companies would be foolish not to enable them.
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Dec 2, 2018 18:07
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Prav posted:i've been going from being disgusted with the companies, to being disgusted with the customers. when people are practically gagging for the opportunity to pay up, companies would be foolish not to enable them. spoken like a true capitalist
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Dec 2, 2018 18:08
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Prav posted:i've been going from being disgusted with the companies, to being disgusted with the customers. when people are practically gagging for the opportunity to pay up, companies would be foolish not to enable them. Yea my disgust is with the players, the fanboys, the whatever you want to call them. I just don't understand why people look at a game world and think "This skinner box is awesome, I will pay for this."
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Dec 2, 2018 18:10
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it’s impossible to empathize with people who paid 140 bucks for a novelty helmet and a cheap branded bag.
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Dec 2, 2018 18:13
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Yinlock posted:spoken like a true capitalist the perfect game has already been invented and it's a one-armed bandit
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Dec 2, 2018 18:14
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Prav posted:the perfect game has already been invented and it's a one-armed bandit well yeah, that's why lootboxes were invented why go to the trouble of making games good when you could instead take ruthless advantage of peoples' gambling addiction
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Dec 2, 2018 18:15
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bethesda should actually sell a real fallout canvass bag now
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Dec 2, 2018 18:15
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I mean they're still loving idiots who spend 200 bucks on hats ofc but I just pity them more than anything
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Dec 2, 2018 18:16
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yeah it's not just gambling. take World of Tanks - saps will happily pay fifty bucks for an overpowered pretend internet tank. which they know will be powercrept by a new overpowered tank a few months later. time and time again, for thousands of dollars.
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Dec 2, 2018 18:19
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yeah it's tragic and hilarious and the perfect end-goal of capitalism selling goods that have literally no utility, a very limited fixed cost, and no variable cost for money to people who are just so desperate for the thrill of buying anything at all
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Dec 2, 2018 18:24
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everyone who pays real money for virtual goods needs mental health care
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Dec 2, 2018 18:27
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Cocoa Crispies posted:yeah it's tragic and hilarious and the perfect end-goal of capitalism That’s a bit too reductive. people don’t buy this crap just for the thrill of buying things, it becomes an expression of their very identity. having a crappy canvas bag with the vault 76 logo on it shows you’re a true fan who paid a premium for some exclusive merch.
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Dec 2, 2018 18:27
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very glad they wont be taking their canvas bag to cons
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Dec 2, 2018 18:30
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Prav posted:yeah it's not just gambling. take World of Tanks - saps will happily pay fifty bucks for an overpowered pretend internet tank. which they know will be powercrept by a new overpowered tank a few months later. time and time again, for thousands of dollars. Stuff like this is why I don’t play “free” to play games. You end up paying more than you would for a full priced game with micro transactions. Unfortunately as you can see with rockstar micro transactions have been spreading to full priced games for years now. Season passes are a huge pain now. The only season pass I’ve bought in the last year was for hitman 2 since I liked the extra content for the last hitman. I agree with the people above who says players are enabling this behavior. I like Cory Balrog’s attitude about dlc
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Dec 2, 2018 18:36
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:That’s a bit too reductive. people don’t buy this crap just for the thrill of buying things, it becomes an expression of their very identity. having a crappy canvas bag with the vault 76 logo on it shows you’re a true fan who paid a premium for some exclusive merch. yeah I was more thinking virtual goods and not tacky pack-ins for collector editions my only hope for that is that more people will say "guess I'm not gonna preorder the collector edition for anything ever again" than say "welp they learned their lesson, preordering the plastic trash edition is good now"
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Dec 2, 2018 18:39
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there's a new bunch of naive kids* to trick that's born every year *25-year-olds who should know better.
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Dec 2, 2018 18:41
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it's not just the bags or the lunchboxes or the hats, it's about having the biggest, coolest list of games owned on your xbox/psn/steam profile too. back in the late 80s/90s you could say it was some off-brand nerd poo poo, but the whole she-bang is a status symbol now. maybe there's an argument to be made that it shouldn't exploit children, but the gently caress else was it gonna do? play fair?
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Dec 2, 2018 18:57
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I cant blame whales anymore than i can alcoholivs. Theyre being preyed upon. gently caress bethesda gently caress valve *buys 20 games on steam winter sale*
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Dec 2, 2018 19:11
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ever seen a man get the vidya shakes? ain't pretty
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Dec 2, 2018 19:13
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he sits there trying to do half an a-press but instead he just taps, taps, taps. poor guy can't even do a two-minute run of dire dire docks any more
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Dec 2, 2018 19:14
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im gonna find whoever invented tf2 hats, and im gonna destroy him or her, rhetorically
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Dec 2, 2018 19:20
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God help me im thinking of building a new pc
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Dec 2, 2018 19:22
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:it’s impossible to empathize with people who paid 140 bucks for a novelty helmet and a cheap branded bag. It's funny as hell the people who got scammed don't realize this.
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Dec 2, 2018 19:22
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Cocoa Crispies posted:everyone who pays real money for virtual goods needs mental health care does it help if you think of it as customers paying to be psychologically manipulated as if it is a service? like for cases of literal pay-to-win in competitive games like aforementioned World of Tanks (which I've never played so just going by what other goons have posted about it), the premium customer/player gets the satisfaction of winning or dominating others or whatever gratification they derive from it.
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Dec 2, 2018 19:23
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Scary! posted:Stuff like this is why I don’t play “free” to play games. You end up paying more than you would for a full priced game with micro transactions. Unfortunately as you can see with rockstar micro transactions have been spreading to full priced games for years now. Season passes are a huge pain now. The only season pass I’ve bought in the last year was for hitman 2 since I liked the extra content for the last hitman. Destiny 2 did a new season pass that I don't hate, it's wild (that I don't hate it) Basically, every expansion is split into paid and free stuff. If you didn't buy the season pass (the only way to get the expansions for the year) you get more of the same: new weapons and armor, max level increase, poo poo like that If you bought it, you get new areas, some new quests and gear unique to those areas and their activities, plus all the stuff from the free update, and then any seasonal or limited time events that they do It gives people who don't want to spend money something to do, and continues to add new stuff for people who kick in the thirty bucks
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Dec 2, 2018 19:30
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Also one of the new guns in the paid for version of the first expansion in the pass is basically mega man's cannon but nuclear
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Dec 2, 2018 19:32
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silentsnack posted:does it help if you think of it as customers paying to be psychologically manipulated as if it is a service? The psychological aspect of it isn't restricted to video games. People put unhealthily personal investments into fashion, home decor, and all sorts of other stuff. I can't speak for the pubbie whales, but the $120 or so that I spent on World of Tanks mostly went into the premium account, which just lets you unlock stuff faster. I also played that game for hundreds of hours so I don't think it was really money poorly spent, just time. There were no real pay2win tanks. Well, 90% of the player base was totally inept at basic game mechanics so I guess that some of the tanks you could buy could seriously improve your chances of getting a single kill. There are whales of different skill levels, and there was definitely different mental stuff going on underneath the hood there
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Dec 2, 2018 19:46
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XP-50 in War Thunder is the best internet gold I've ever spent.
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Dec 2, 2018 19:49
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Slim Jim Pickens posted:There were no real pay2win tanks. yeah there were, but it was low-tier stuff like the Pz.Kpfw. 38H 735 (f) but more recently (well, years ago now) WG went whole hog on it instead of making them by mistake, after they noticed that a few pilot attempts were well received, and at this point releasing a new T8 premium that outclasses any non-prem in the tier is a regular occurrence. the playerbase is still completely inept, mind.
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Dec 2, 2018 20:03
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Cocoa Crispies posted:everyone who pays real money for virtual goods needs mental health care *looks @ SA forums* yep, checks out e: Slim Jim Pickens posted:The psychological aspect of it isn't restricted to video games. People put unhealthily personal investments into fashion, home decor, and all sorts of other stuff. i gotta admit, those one-month premiums looked pretty tempting when i still played WT and was trying to grind my way to my favorite airplanes
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Dec 2, 2018 20:22
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cool dance moves posted:*looks @ SA forums* Some of us didn't have to pay for our accounts.  I was not one of them, as account registration got closed for the Forums Police Action in 2001 just as I was getting into the forums 
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Prav posted:yeah there were, but it was low-tier stuff like the Pz.Kpfw. 38H 735 (f) The last I remember was the Rudy T-34-85, and it was just very slightly better than all the other tier 6s. I did fully quit years ago so I have no idea whats up anymore. The low tier prem sealclubbers were truly depraved. Those guys would rack up thousands of games in baby tier games that nobody else played, if that isn't some sort of power fantasy idk what is.
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