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I also don’t have an issue per se with rhel, but the old rear end packages, combined with having to decipher if x is ported back to the old rear end kernel make it have more friction then I want. Otherwise I really don’t care about base OS, like right now my servers are all running a derivative of chromium and managed as pets by kubernetes. Running on cents/rhel would be a lot more frustrating. My real root issues are that places that run rhel tend to be really backwards places with ideas that the industry is moving past that don’t have skills so they think their red hat contract will cover them, or windows places with a token Linux box that only knows the world of support contracts. Its a bad omen to see it really, because it tells me I am in for a bad time. Also red hats kubernetes poo poo is so wonky and deviates so far from what everyone else is doing that I don’t know what the hell they are thinking.
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Does anyone know when Nvidia plans on releasing drivers that aren't horrible garbage that make me want to kill myself? Asking for ten to twenty thousand friends.
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nope. submit to radeon (if you can find one lol bitcoin)
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Without cuda, how do the devout worship the ai godhead?
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mrmcd posted:Does anyone know when Nvidia plans on releasing drivers that aren't horrible garbage that make me want to kill myself? ten people dont use linux
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was excited to find out at work yesterday that nvidia's linux driver still comes as a binary blob that asks you to close X before it will install, same as it did last time i installed linux on the desktop in 2012
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turned out it'd already been installed for me, so i didn't see whether standard procedure was still to go through the whole thing twice before anything would work
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mrmcd posted:Without cuda, how do the devout worship the ai godhead? if you got an intel graphics in your system and can use hybrid graphics mode then you can install the nvidia drivers without the gl hooks and use the nvidia card for cuda poo poo and leave graphics poo poo to the intel thing
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I just put a second monitor on and this is very annoying. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1513160 Also Wayland crashed AND I COULD HAVE LOST ALL MY TABS.
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mrmcd posted:Does anyone know when Nvidia plans on releasing drivers that aren't horrible garbage that make me want to kill myself? If you use linux you pretty much gave up on video games. You made your life choices. Live with them.
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akadajet posted:If you use linux you pretty much gave up on life
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mrmcd posted:Does anyone know when Nvidia plans on releasing drivers that aren't horrible garbage that make me want to kill myself? they're working fine for me.
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thebigcow posted:I just put a second monitor on and this is very annoying. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1513160 my tabs!  also I agree that wayland is poo poo
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good news for btrfs fans, libbtrfsutil https://mail-archive.com/linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org/msg72924.html lgpl licensed library in c with python bindings for doing btrfs stuff, so you don't have to parse /usr/sbin/btrfs output anymore
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and wayland will eventually work fine still hope that the pipewire dudes will come to their senses and integrate their stuff with pulseaudio properly instead of reinventing the wheel for the 20th time, but since this is open source i guess that'll never happen (if i'm right then pipewire is a doomed project. pulseaudio actually works now and all new things has been written with it in mind for quite a while now) (and yes, i see the irony by mentioning wayland in the same post, but they at least try to make all the X stuff work through Xwayland)
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to further the white noise posting about btrfs that noone cares about, there's more raid56 fixes coming for 4.16: http://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1801.3/03875.html
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ah butterFS, the filesystem of choice for pancake eaters
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just connected the dots that tmux has 24 bit color support so the rest of my terminal should too
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anybody up in this sliz ever use runit (or busybox's sv/runsv)? I wanna know what works good and what doesn't
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retard
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Lol Devuan is a systemd-less Debian fork made by the Veteran Unix Administrators. That tells you all you need to know.
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spankmeister posted:Veteran Unix Administrators. Could have shortened that even more tbh
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shameful, “unix” veterans not even running a real unix
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Soricidus posted:shameful, “unix” veterans not even running a real unix
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spankmeister posted:Lol Devuan is a systemd-less Debian fork made by the Veteran Unix Administrators. deVUAn 
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Poopernickel posted:anybody up in this sliz ever use runit (or busybox's sv/runsv)? I wanna know what works good and what doesn't that’s one of those wrapper scripts that just makes sure a service is running right? just use the normal service thing like launchd/smf/systemd to run your poo poo
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lol that whole stunt was just some jab at systemd what an idiot
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Poopernickel posted:anybody up in this sliz ever use runit (or busybox's sv/runsv)? I wanna know what works good and what doesn't Cocoa Crispies posted:that’s one of those wrapper scripts that just makes sure a service is running right? no, it's a standalone service manager (and a tiny init system) based on daemontools - more like a replacement for systemd that does a lot less stuff Systemd is totally fine and maybe even good on the desktop, but it sucks poo poo balls for use on a cheap ARMv7 running a Yocto build. Plus my coworkers are crusty graybeards who think sysvinit is fine and just dump everything into a single rcS script attached to a single runlevel I'm thinking of pitching the 'service manager' concept for our next major product, and runit seemed like it might be greybeard-approvable. But I wanted to figure out what would be in store for me Poopernickel fucked around with this message at 16:08 on Jan 31, 2018 |
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Poopernickel posted:Systemd is totally fine and maybe even good on the desktop, but it sucks poo poo balls for use on a cheap ARMv7 running a Yocto build. Plus my coworkers are crusty graybeards who think sysvinit is fine and just dump everything into a single rcS script attached to a single runlevel yocto supports systemd. there is nothing special about your armv7 that makes it a bad target for systemd the problem is you and your coworkers, not systemd
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all of the other smug greybeards who hate systemd are wrong, but my project is special because it runs on like a 100 MHz ARM chip with tens of megabytes of ram it's embedded, you see bash scripts are just more efficient, they're close to the metal
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seriously you just made the argument that bash scripts are better on an embedded system we need to use bash for init because the language that literally forks a process to evaluate an if statement is somehow a better fit on a smaller system wait what *hangs self*
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*manipulates strings inside a loop, spawns 10000 processes* ahh now thats the elegance of unix
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Poopernickel posted:no, it's a standalone service manager (and a tiny init system) based on daemontools - more like a replacement for systemd that does a lot less stuff All of my embedded Linux projects run systemd. In fact, I got systemd v236 ported to Buildroot (systemd converted to meson after 234, so meson + ninja + the systemd package had to be ported over). If you aren't running systemd on embedded Linux in 2018, you are doing embedded Linux wrong.
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Perplx posted:*manipulates strings inside a loop, spawns 10000 processes*
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Perplx posted:*manipulates strings inside a loop, spawns 10000 processes*
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Captain Foo posted:lol that whole stunt was just some jab at systemd the entire distro is some jab at systemd
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Perplx posted:*manipulates strings inside a loop, spawns 10000 processes*
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Poopernickel posted:anybody up in this sliz ever use runit (or busybox's sv/runsv)? I wanna know what works good and what doesn't yes, i use and like runit and s6 (just for process supervision not as an init system - i use systemd)
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