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Ikasuhito
Sep 29, 2013

Haram as Fuck.

Crisis Now posted:

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CHINA stuff on previous page
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Admittedly I dont know poo poo about modding, but drat that was fast.

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ThatBasqueGuy
Feb 14, 2013

someone introduce jojo to lazyb


Ikasuhito posted:

Admittedly I dont know poo poo about modding, but drat that was fast.

Mocking up borders and basic ruler stats doesn't take too long with the current modding tools, if I remember correctly. What's gonna take forever is adding in decisions, events, flavor, etc...

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

So does Somerled starts with Harmonized Catholicism?

Crazycryodude
Aug 15, 2015

Lets get our X tons of Duranium back!

....Is that still a valid thing to jingoistically blow out of proportion?


If you need help with grunt work I'll volunteer to help out. I'm not too familiar with EUIV modding but I'll help out any way I can.

Crisis Now
May 2, 2012

Sword of the Lord

Plutonis posted:

So does Somerled starts with Harmonized Catholicism?

Yes, as well as the Shandong peninsular being French Catholic provinces.
I can't see much way for French nor Catholic to spread initially from Somerled (unless they go colonial) but if that seems likely I may have to mod in the "Chinois" culture in that case

Crisis Now fucked around with this message at 18:57 on Nov 17, 2017

ManifunkDestiny
Aug 2, 2005
THE ONLY THING BETTER THAN THE SEAHAWKS IS RUSSELL WILSON'S TAINT SWEAT

Seahawks #1 fan since 2014.
That just looks like a fun region, nice touches.

There are gonna be so many different takes on Jesus in this timeline.

Raserys
Aug 22, 2011

IT'S YA BOY
The Shun emperors are going to lose their minds when they find out immortality is real and quantifiable

Jimmy4400nav
Apr 1, 2011

Ambassador to Moonlandia

ManifunkDestiny posted:

That just looks like a fun region, nice touches.

There are gonna be so many different takes on Jesus in this timeline.




Korean Jesus is based on their encounters with Sverre and assuming him to be a model of all Christians.

Pharnakes
Aug 14, 2009
Pavonian Java and et al. has to happen.

RA Rx
Mar 24, 2016

Sverre's descendants betrayed Catholicism? God would have protected them! :saddowns:
Just wait till Jesus' Sverre's brother reminds everyone what they're really supposed to think!

Well, with any luck Catholic zealots will get out of hand after a regularly scheduled hellwar...

RA Rx fucked around with this message at 07:50 on Nov 18, 2017

slothrop
Dec 7, 2006

Santa Alpha, Fox One... Gifts Incoming ~~~>===|>

Soiled Meat
Got referred here from the Strike Command LP and wow! Fantastic read! Looking forward to the next chapter!

Pharnakes
Aug 14, 2009
Taiping is really going to be something else in this universe. A sort of Chinese Catholicism reformation war maybe?

sheep-dodger
Feb 21, 2013

Crisis Now posted:

Yes, as well as the Shandong peninsular being French Catholic provinces.
I can't see much way for French nor Catholic to spread initially from Somerled (unless they go colonial) but if that seems likely I may have to mod in the "Chinois" culture in that case


Personally I'd make a Chinois culture that is part of the Chinese culture group, as making them French culture denies France the chance to ever get the unify culture age goal, and more importantly it's pretty much impossible for enough people to migrate from France to China to really make any area majority French.

Crisis Now
May 2, 2012

Sword of the Lord

sheep-dodger posted:

Personally I'd make a Chinois culture that is part of the Chinese culture group, as making them French culture denies France the chance to ever get the unify culture age goal, and more importantly it's pretty much impossible for enough people to migrate from France to China to really make any area majority French.

Bad news for France then! French culture is the most wide-spread in 1444. I will make a Chinois culture, along with ones for all the other far-flung areas that the French have somehow found themselves before the age of sail has even arrived.


Edit: Unless you're really careful about where your culture spreads you'll find any CK2 -> EUIV conversion has cultures in all the wrong and weird places.

Crisis Now fucked around with this message at 16:27 on Nov 18, 2017

Rody One Half
Feb 18, 2011

What's the distinction between green and purple

Crisis Now
May 2, 2012

Sword of the Lord

Rodyle posted:

What's the distinction between green and purple

Purple is "Francien" / Cosmpolitan French - closest thing to present day French.
Green is Occitan, Yellow is Norman, the slightly darker purple is Breton.

sheep-dodger
Feb 21, 2013

Crisis Now posted:

Bad news for France then! French culture is the most wide-spread in 1444. I will make a Chinois culture, along with ones for all the other far-flung areas that the French have somehow found themselves before the age of sail has even arrived.


Edit: Unless you're really careful about where your culture spreads you'll find any CK2 -> EUIV conversion has cultures in all the wrong and weird places.

Yeah, culture spread in CK2 is pretty dumb overall. I mean obviously keep it around in some fashion for cool stuff like basque Sicily or English Rome, but generally it makes more sense to have a new culture that is part of the original culture group but renamed to reflect the influence of the CK2 culture.
Also, if it's not obvious, definitely break up the bigger cultures, like French and German into smaller ones, otherwise the euiv setup will be insane.

Quorum
Sep 24, 2014

REMIND ME AGAIN HOW THE LITTLE HORSE-SHAPED ONES MOVE?

sheep-dodger posted:

Yeah, culture spread in CK2 is pretty dumb overall. I mean obviously keep it around in some fashion for cool stuff like basque Sicily or English Rome, but generally it makes more sense to have a new culture that is part of the original culture group but renamed to reflect the influence of the CK2 culture.
Also, if it's not obvious, definitely break up the bigger cultures, like French and German into smaller ones, otherwise the euiv setup will be insane.

I might even go so far as to make the cultures of English Rome and English England different, since IIRC "English" in this timeline reflects the mingling of Anglo-Saxon influences and Italian rather than Anglo-Saxon and Norman French.

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011
Have one culture group for the purely hybrid cultures, to reflect that they're rejected by both origin cultures and only get along with fellow misfits.

Misfit culture group:
- Anglo-Italian Papal
- Whatever the hell Jerusalem is these days
- Templar-Mongol Sverrian
- Franco-Chinese Sverrian

StrifeHira
Nov 7, 2012

I'll remind you that I have a very large stick.
Really should give those cultures some more unique names to emphasize their coolness/weirdness.

Like English-Italian could be called "Anglican." A Maltese-esque "Carthaginian" culture could be the main thing of the Carthaginian Order. And a simple "Templar" could be a cool one for the Franco-Mongol culture.

RA Rx
Mar 24, 2016

StrifeHira posted:

Really should give those cultures some more unique names to emphasize their coolness/weirdness.

Like English-Italian could be called "Anglican." A Maltese-esque "Carthaginian" culture could be the main thing of the Carthaginian Order. And a simple "Templar" could be a cool one for the Franco-Mongol culture.

Perfect.

GenderSelectScreen
Mar 7, 2010

I DON'T KNOW EITHER DON'T ASK ME
College Slice
Culture doesn't really work like that in this game. Melting pots aren't really a thing.

Heck, vanilla EUIV has an American culture that is only used if you start a campaign when America is already formed.

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe
While it's kinda strange to talk about realism in this here crazy-rear end world, there's literally no way that the Templar culture would realistically stay as mainstream French when isolated in goddamn China.

Luhood
Nov 13, 2012

Quorum posted:

I might even go so far as to make the cultures of English Rome and English England different, since IIRC "English" in this timeline reflects the mingling of Anglo-Saxon influences and Italian rather than Anglo-Saxon and Norman French.

Not only that, but wasn't the very introduction of English into England in this timeline just Crisis not wanting to have the slightly achronistic "Anglo-Saxon" plastered all over the isles come EU4? So in reality it'd just be an Anglo-Saxon conversion but with the name English instead.

Crisis Now
May 2, 2012

Sword of the Lord

Luhood posted:

Not only that, but wasn't the very introduction of English into England in this timeline just Crisis not wanting to have the slightly achronistic "Anglo-Saxon" plastered all over the isles come EU4? So in reality it'd just be an Anglo-Saxon conversion but with the name English instead.

Yes, they were intended to be "English" in name only but were still very much Pre-Norman Anglo-Saxons.
Except the Irish have gone and ruled most of the British Isles in the middle ages so now they're probably very Celtic Anglo-Saxons.

Crisis Now fucked around with this message at 12:35 on Nov 19, 2017

Luhood
Nov 13, 2012

Crisis Now posted:

Yes, they were intended to be "English" in name only but were still very much Pre-Norman Anglo-Saxons.
Except the Irish have gone and ruled most of the British Isles in the middle ages so now they're probably very Celtic Anglo-Saxons.

Brythonic! Now asking for this to be a thing might be a bit too much - specially considering how many Celtic!Britains we tend to get in LPs around here - but it's a fun idea nonetheless.

Mr_Autoshades
Dec 5, 2016

vyelkin posted:

Have one culture group for the purely hybrid cultures, to reflect that they're rejected by both origin cultures and only get along with fellow misfits.

Misfit culture group:
- Anglo-Italian Papal
- Whatever the hell Jerusalem is these days
- Templar-Mongol Sverrian
- Franco-Chinese Sverrian

Don't forget other fun melting pots such as:
- Franco-Egyptians
- Hiberno-Syrians
- I think Greco-Hungarians?
- Perso-Armenians
- The mess of Irish influenced Kingdoms
- and whatever you want to call what's happening in Scandinavia

Hattie Masters
Aug 29, 2012

COMICS CRIMINAL
Grimey Drawer
I just read through the whole thread and goddamn if the Rise of Angels era isn't the perfect weird-rear end setting for a game of Ars Magica.

Also this thread and whole story is amazing and i love every second of it.

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

Hattie Masters posted:

I just read through the whole thread and goddamn if the Rise of Angels era isn't the perfect weird-rear end setting for a game of Ars Magica.

Also this thread and whole story is amazing and i love every second of it.

Imagine if the Hermetics in CK were Ars Hermetics...

Crisis Now
May 2, 2012

Sword of the Lord
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SOUTH EAST ASIA
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The Eternal Tradition

Since before even the time of Christ and possibly old Rome or Parthia itself Hindu traders and explorers came to the islands of South East Asia. Not long after traders from northern Chinese and Indochinese kingdoms began to frequent the region too. The spices, gems and incense that could be found on the islands becoming of great demand and in return the culture and religions of the foreigners was brought to the natives who gradually over the centuries came to adopt the Hindu and Buddhist faiths. While a number of small isoslated tribal kingdoms clung to their old faiths the major players in south Malaya and Java thrived with their new found beliefs and the influx of wealth from trading with the Indians and Chinese. Among them was Pasai, Siak, Kutai, Sunda, Pagarruyung and the greatest of all the Majaphahit empire whose mighty navy dominated the seas of the south east and ventured as far as Persia and East Africa, which is when they first came into contact with the followers of Muhammad.

The Crescent Moon

Not even two centuries after the great prophet's passing had Arabic merchants made contact with the Indonesian natives and the reach of Islam's influence spread immensely. While the Umayyads and Abbasids brought the sword against the Christians of North Africa and Iberia wealthy entrepreneuring pioneers from Muscat, Basra and from deep in the Red Sea brought their gold with them to the far east and set the foundation for what was to come. Over the next two centuries trade between the Muslims and Hindu-Buddhists would intensify greatly and in time Pasai and Siak would convert again to the Sunni faith. Shortly followed by Brunei - former vassal of Majaphahit that looked set to conquer all of Borneo, this along with Pasai's northern Aceh region becoming exceedingly prosperous from the influx of gold, goods and gods for people to follow meant South East Asia was on track to becoming the crossroads of commerce and culture in the Far East.

This all changed in 1126.

Saladin's Exodus

Arabic merchants begin bringing tales of their Holy Land being retaken by the Catholics, led by the Pope himself. The old Caliphates that had spread across the Mediterranean were crumbling and in their twilight the leader of the Catholic Church Gregorius VII marched on the sultans and emirs of Arabia bringing untold suffering and misery. On his left stood Fadazu, the immortal Moor slave-come-soldier who could not be felled on the battlefield and whose true dark intentions soon became apparent. And on his right stood Sverre the Templar whose insatiable lust for blood could not be quenched, any city he set his sights on would fall in time and all those inside would meet his blade. They were bitter enemies but united through Gregorious and together they conquered the heartland of the Muslim faith. The more cities that fell the further east the Muslims would flee, finding no home in India they eventually settled in South East Asia, though this was only in a sporadic unorganized fashion. Until the fall of Mecca in 1145. Refugees to South East Asia increased immensely and soon enough the small merchant kingdoms found themselves buckling under the strain of all the new arrivals and the strife and conflict they brought with the religious differences between they and the natives.

The Rassids of Yemen were the first to flee from the West as the loss of Mecca and the most of Arabia was enough to convince them that end days of their faith were surely approaching. The Rassids were Shia and once loyal servants of the Fatimid Caliph, and while they may have abandoned their home they were not prepared to abandon their beliefs and refused to integrate with or adopt the local customs once their ships arrived en mass in Java. The Yemen - Majaphahit war was brief and mostly bloodless with the loss of ships and goods being the may concern but it showed the Rassids at the very least they could not force their way into the rich lands of the long-established kingdoms. Going further east they found the island of Sulawesi inhabited by tribals who still worshiped their animal gods and proved little match for the disciplined soldiers and sailors of the invading Yemeni. The new feudal theocracy of the Rassids was established

In 1169 things somehow took a turn for the even worse. Fadazu, bane of the Muslim world was revealed to be a heretic leader and prophet who had beguiled the last two major Sunni leaders to his ways - the Almoravids of Morroco and the Ulucids of Persia. When the Rise of the Angels took place they revealed themselves to be Yazidi and with that the Sunni faith was practically gone (outside of the isolated Mali). All none-Yazidi inside their realms were forced to convert by the sword, and of course many opposed. In the very heartland of the Yazidi in the Kurdish mountains a warlord by the name of Saladin led a popular uprising against the new Yazidi overlords. He had previously been attempting to gain support of the Shia Caliph in retaking the Holy Land and Mecca / Medina but the sudden turn of events had changed his goals considerably. While he enjoyed early successes against the Yazidi with the aid of many tens (possibly hundreds) of thousands of locals and still Sunni-loyal soldiers they found themselves utterly surrounded and outnumbered on every front. With the new Pavonian empire still in a great amount of unrest from it's meteoric rise the Ayyubids under Saladin were able to retain hold of Basra and lower Iraq.

The situation was not tenable however and they knew it, Mecca was destroyed, Jerusalem lost, all of Persia and North Africa fallen to the Yazidi and the Shia Caliph - the last beacon of Muslim control in the west was more content on waging war against the Ethiopians instead of reclaiming the Muslim world. Under the Ayyubids what would later become known as Saladin's Exodus was devised - they would lead the still faithful Sunni eastward to rebuild and recuperate so they may retake Arabia in centuries to come. The sultanate of Oman was one of the last Sunni rulers inside the Pavonian Empire (Yemen and Oman remaining areas of intense Muslim resistance for many decades despite their Yazidi overlords massacring them by the thousands) and joined the Ayyubids in their plan, along with the aid of the Bedouin Company who had refused to turn to the heresy, holding their faith in higher regard than gold. The furusiyya of the Bedouin Company raided and sacked the coastal cities along the Red and Persian sea, stealing the ships within and doing as much as they could to hinder future attempts to rebuild and regrow by the Yazidi. The Ayyubids led the last faithful from Basra to Muscat, a million man march escorted by the furusiyya constantly beset upon by bandits and Yazidi zeolots, by the time they arrived at Muscat they had already lost half their numbers, by the time they would reach their final destination it would more than half again. Though he devised the scheme Saladin would not be the one to lead the final fateful journey, instead he took the last and best of the Sunni holy warriors, mujahideen veterans of the African jihad and the Bektashi Order on an attempted siege of Baghdad to recapture the former jewel of the Muslim world. An endeavor that was bound to fail, but they never aspired to actually win - just draw the Yazidi away from Arabia. Saladin's brother Saphadin, a great administrator and organizer and supporter of all his brother's endeavors was named the new head of the Ayyubid dynasty and with the help of the Nabhani family of Oman they left Arabia with near enough every ship they could wrestle from the Yazidi.

The journey eastward from Muscat was perilous and with every passing day yet more ships and a great many hundreds of the lost Sunni perished. While initially they attempted to trade with the locals of the ports the grand armada stopped at this quickly became unsustainable and the Bedouin Company resorted to raiding the shores of West India, securing yet more ships and supplies for the wayward fleet, weakening the Maharajas greatly and allowing for Yazidi incursions across the Indus river to commence a few short decades later. While India and Indochina proved poor places to try and resettle due to the abundance of large well-established kingdoms that refused the entry to the lost people they instead found their new home in Indonesia. Tales of the riches from the paradise tropical islands far to the east were common with the Sunni merchants and as far as they knew there was no large kingdoms like the Tamilikam or the Khmer to oppose them. Saphadin led the lost fleet through the straits of Johore, a great many of the ships already began to depart from the fleet, looking to integrate with the kingdom of Malacca or Pasai who had converted to Islam a few centuries past - but there was no way they could accept all those of the immense fleet.
At the southern tip of Malaya in the Lampung region the Nabhani established their new home, a noble republic ruled and overseen only by members of their dynasty who voted among themselves for new rulers. Across the Java Sea on the southern shores of Borneo the Ayyubids landed and Saphadin duly established the Ayyubid Sultanate. Between them on the isle of Belitung the Bedouin Company settled and turned the tiny rocky island paradise in to an immense fortress (using local Sumatrans as slave labour) from which they patrolled the seas of South East Asia. For now it would seem the Sunni faith was saved and could thrive once again in this new land.





The Peacock

The impressive ascension of the Pavonian Empire was never to last. Alexander the serpent was a callous cowardly drunk who was fine ruling the Papacy with a myriad of servants and advisors to back him up but ruling an empire was an entirely different matter and after taking his own life on the shores of the Black Sea with the weapon his father invented his empire would never again see quite the splendor it did in it's initial years - especially after the conquest of Italy. Alexander's death brought his grandson Bruto, king of the Danish Yazidi to power who failed to stop the reclamation of Italy and was thus murdered by the Turkish Yazidi. Control of Pavonia fell out of the hands of the de Borgona family that had founded it and instead to the Ulucids who focused more on the east as the west increasingly fell to Catholic reconquest. As the Mongol Empire waned the Yazidi grew and Pavonia spread across the steppe and soon enough beginning invasions of India too. The Third Black Death brought an end to this however as the Ulucid dynasty lost almost all control and the Pavonian empire splintered with the far-flung African and Danish kingdoms breaking free (only to be quickly conquered by Spaniards and Germans respectively) and the middle east becoming a a quagmire of endless war between bickering Yazidi lords once united for a single cause. The golden age of the "Peacock Century" (1175 - 1258) was over.

With the vehemently hostile Pavonian empire gone Yazidi traders now attempted to travel outside the borders of the former empire in search of new merchant enterprises to be had. They of course knew going west into Catholic lands would mean being killed on sight, and the recent Persian-Yazidi invasions of Malwa had soured Indian opinion on the Yazidis greatly, but in Indochina the merchants began to find success. And from Indochina it did not take long for the Yazidi to find Indonesia. The once prosperous Indian Ocean Trade came to a grinding halt at the onset of the Rise of the Angels, while trade continued between India and China and the nations on the route it would never enjoy the same success of the 9th- 12th centuries. The Muslim Sumatrans of Pasai had not met the Yazidi before and knew little to nothing of what had transpired in Europe and Arabia and thus were very open to the merchants. In turn the Yazidi merchants began immediately sowing the seeds of dissent and attempting to foster their faith among the Indonesians. That is until the ventured a little further east and encountered the resettled Arabians. A Yazidi merchant vessel was stopped just off the shores of Bangka (of the Nabhani Sultanate) by a Beduoin warship and upon discovering the heretics on board were slaughtered without a moment's hesitation.

The Nabhani - Beduoin Company - Ayyubid trinity had enjoyed relative peace with the Malayan nations as they had kept their distance and tried to foster good relations through marriages and trade (though still found themselves being drawn into conflict with the southern Majaphahit and the Shia Zealots to the east) but the arrival of the Yazidi alarmed the Indo-Arabians greatly and a expedition was sent to Aceh at once. They found the Pasai capital rife with heretics, trading and preaching their poison openly, the Ayyubid sultan demanded the explusion of all Yazidi at once but Pasai refused, priding itself on it's open policy that had brought it such wealth (and already in a few short years the Yazidi had managed to work their way into powerful positions in the Pasai administration). In 1350 soldiers of the Bedouin Company landed at the southern tip of Malaya and with Nabhani troops en tow they marched north into the kingdom of Pasai, bringing great ruin to the once prosperous trade nation as they sought to drive the Yazidi out. Unfortunately this had an adverse effect as the Yazidi dwelling in Malaya now knew they would have to be more discrete with their actions, all those not in the immediate path of the Arabians went in to hiding and continued their work in the shadows, just as their ancestors had done alongside the great Fadazu. The King of Pasai was overthrown and for all the Indo-Arabians knew the Yazidi had been killed or driven off, after establishing a more hard-line Sunni king they left back south content they had won.

In 1366 Timur had risen in Afghanistan with the goal of forming a second Pavonian Empire and in his mad gambit had brought war again to the slowly calming Yazidi kingdoms. As the zealot armies destroyed the last vestiges of the decadent and stagnant Ulucid family a great many refugees who did not align with Timur's ambitions once again found themselves in need of a new home. Europe and India still refused (or outright killed on sight) the Yazidi but tales of the misdeeds that had transpired in Pasai had not made it back to Persia and Arabia and as far as many were concerned it was an open and welcoming land of riches and opportunities. Yazidi merchants, explorers and settlers once again came to the shores of Indonesia and found the locals more than welcoming - mostly thanks to the fact that in the sixteen years since the Indo-Arabic's purge the Yazidi that survived had remained hidden and once again worked their ways in to all the important areas of Pasain society. The new comers were given preference over the locals and every effort was made to ensure the southern sultans would not learn of what was transpiring. By 1380 just as Timur was conducting his ill-fated invasion of Egypt the Yazidi in Pasai had grown to such an extent that those who were hidden could once again operate openly, seizing control of much of the kingdom - admittedly much more peacefully than had been done in the initial Rise of the Angels. Many of the local Sumatrans found themselves with little choice but to convert yet again to this new faith that had found it's way to their shores. In port cities all along Malaya greater power was granted to the Yazidi merchant lords until finally they were able to form a confederation, and just in time for the Ayyubids to come rolling up.

The Yazidi had managed to find allies on the mainland in the kingdom of Malacca who had chafed under the increasing power of the Ayyubids and their Arabic allies and wished to see a re-balance of the power in Indonesia. With the help of the mainland Malayans the second purge was averted and Yazidi presence in South East Asia was affirmed. Malacca was thanked for it's invaluable assistance against the Indo-Arabics by having it's kingdom infiltrated by the Yazidi who within the decade had once again seized control of yet another nation. Suffice to say the Nabhani - Beduoin Company - Ayyubid (and Rassids) had becoming increasingly tenacious in their attempts to stem the rising Yazidi tide. Fortresses and towns on the borders were fortified to an absurd degree lest the Yazidi march south or try to land across the Java Sea, but the Yazidi had more than proven that their preferred choice for expansion was not through conquest by subverting nations that allowed them willingly or unknowingly into their borders. The Indo-Arabic rulers grew ever more paranoid and their people suffered as harsh military rule became more prevalent in attempts to keep the heretics out.

in 1401 Timur is vanquished in his failed invasion of all of Malwa and the hope of Yazidi revival in the west fades but the Yazidi in South East Asia have grown immensely powerful and where the Timurids / Second Pavonia failed, the Yazidi Indonesian Merchants / Third Pavonia would surely succeed. Malacca was gone, now only known as Meleke, named for the Peacock Angel himself and the new seat of power of the Yazidi merchant empire. Under it's rule the six most powerful cities that Yazidi merchants had grown to dominate -Dardail, Israfil, Mikail, Gibrail, Shimnail and Nurail, each renamed after the other six archangels. The greatly diminished kingdom of Pasai became a Meleke protectorate and soon enough Saik and Pagarruyung were forced to follow suite and while the aristocracy of the three former Sunni kingdoms converted to the new faith many of the people still followed the Sunni faith and major unrest would surely grow over the next decades.



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South East Asia nations


South East Asia cultures


South East Asia religions


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Crisis Now
May 2, 2012

Sword of the Lord
Having done a few test games to make sure everything was fairly balanced I found South East Asia an extremely fun area to play in with this setup, it's a shame by the time Europeans discover it all the exciting stuff will probably be over, and it's not quite as easy to interpret what has previously transpired in an area by checking previous rulers / traits / deaths as in CK2.

The "Military Government" (still work in progress) is the same one given to the Navarrese Company, it incorporates elements of Monastic Orders (choosing heir from various sources) and Prussian Monarchy (increasingly militarizing your nation over time)

Fixing cultures by hand is very unfun and tedious. And modding in new ones is surprisingly frustrating too when the 6 or 7th one you add with an identical method to the prior ones suddenly don't want to appear in game.

But none the less: as well as "Danisch" in the Germanic group for Germano-Danish. "Noruego" in the Iberian group for Spanish-Norwegian and Mozarabic for most of converted-formerly-Muslim Portugal. Hiberno-Syrian in Irish. Nordafricano in Latin. Alexandrian in Byzantine. Perso-Armenian in Iranian and Anglicus in British.

That really just leaves Africa (minus north-coast / Abyssinia) as last possible place for any changes, as I don't really want to add changes to the Americas just for the sake of it.

Still getting my head around modding in new religions (and the fact they're reformation religions is another complication on top), but should all be playable and ready to continue in another week or two.




edit: It's still mind-boggling to think how much of this timeline's history hinged on the actions of four people (Gregorius / Alexander / Fadazu / Sverre. But especially Fadazu) in the 12th century.

Earliest screenshot I can find of Fadazu all the way back in 1082.

Crisis Now fucked around with this message at 02:53 on Nov 23, 2017

Tallgeese
May 11, 2008

MAKE LOVE, NOT WAR


Renowned fighting forces, not renown.

frankenfreak
Feb 16, 2007

I SCORED 85% ON A QUIZ ABOUT MONDAY NIGHT RAW AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS LOUSY TEXT

#bastionboogerbrigade

Crisis Now posted:

Having done a few test games to make sure everything was fairly balanced I found South East Asia an extremely fun area to play in with this setup, it's a shame by the time Europeans discover it all the exciting stuff will probably be over, and it's not quite as easy to interpret what has previously transpired in an area by checking previous rulers / traits / deaths as in CK2.
It certainly looks like a fun, patchworky area from the screenshots.

quote:


That is probably a good idea.

Crazycryodude
Aug 15, 2015

Lets get our X tons of Duranium back!

....Is that still a valid thing to jingoistically blow out of proportion?


Oh man this is gonna be great, I can't wait to get my hands on the EU4 scenario when we're through, SE Asia looks so fun.

Luhood
Nov 13, 2012

Just a hint though, if you really want those cultures to survive you better put them with the other cultures they will share History with rather than any modern concept of Culture. For similar things see why Finnish and Sami are both in the Scandinavian group while Karelian is a Russian culture, and why Turkish is part of the Levantine group.

orcbuster
May 17, 2017

is the LP dead?

Akratic Method
Mar 9, 2013

It's going to pay off eventually--I'm sure of it.

Any day now.

I think it’s just in conversion. There’s always a long gap between games in mega-LPs, since moving from one to the next is a pretty intricate and error-prone process even before you deal with the task of making the new parts of the world interesting.

Ibblebibble
Nov 12, 2013

As someone from OTL Malaysia I'm happy to be under the yoke of the peacocks.

RA Rx
Mar 24, 2016

orcbuster posted:

is the LP dead?

It's definitely in conversion. This sort of thing takes months. Something can always happen to someone online, but that's unlikely.

Where did all the lovely pics go? :(

RA Rx fucked around with this message at 16:34 on Dec 24, 2017

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Ikasuhito
Sep 29, 2013

Haram as Fuck.

orcbuster posted:

is the LP dead?

You must have faith in the immortal, one eyed pope.

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