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The one Netflix special is funny, and has a ton of clever leapfrogging call-backs worked in seamlessly throughout. The other Netflix special is a weird crazy man so hung up on the JFK assassination that it fizzles into pointless white noise. Both have stupid random cuts to ghost images of Hicks doing nothing interesting for no reason. Status: Undecided.
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Jellidelic posted:also, if you watch his stuff today and find it lame, that's only because the ball he helped get rolling is way past him now. A lot of his opinions have become common, or even less provocative than what a lot of people today think. this post nails exactly what i was going for with my clumsy shitposting. I totally get how a wet behind the ears babby who's only ever known a world with the internet wouldn't be impressed with him, but in the context of the Reagan/Bush's years' great christian patriotic crusade against communism and drugs, he was inflammatory. It's less of a "Bill Hicks' comedy is timeless and objectively the greatest form of art wrought by man" and more "wow. that was a hell of a thing he did. i forgot how insane this was when I first heard about it."
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Oct 2, 2016 09:01
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material about kennedy. Hicks wasn't the first person to comment on anything, but he's the first guy I know of that was able to charm a crowd well enough to get them to laugh while hearing assertions that our government killed a sitting president in broad day and lied about it. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I reckon before the internet government skepticism still had at least enough of a stink on it that keeping peoples noses open while you crack-wise about the kennedy assassination was impressive.
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Oct 2, 2016 09:37
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Lenny Bruce doesn't have a joke worth a gently caress, and also 2 Live Crew suck poo poo. Pushing boundaries is exciting in a way that only matters while it's happening, but while it's happening it's changing minds in a way that tickles your brain. Pioneers accomplishments don't seem real impressive to ppl living in settled territory.
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Oct 2, 2016 09:43
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No, see, he may seem like an unhinged child throwing a tantrum because he could change the world if they would just listen to him, but when you consider the context in which he melted down it's actually really funny. Here is an essay to explain my reasoning:
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Oct 2, 2016 10:25
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Wow the government killed JFK. No one said that in 1994 man. Does he also do a bit where he talks about the moon landing being faked? Maybe go down to a psych ward and talk to some random guy with schizophrenia if you're missing the Bill Hicks experience.
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Oct 2, 2016 10:32
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he also liked to brag about doing hallucinogenic mushrooms which is p impressive to do on tv a handful of years before raves became a thing truly a man before his time
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Oct 2, 2016 10:50
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:he also liked to brag about doing hallucinogenic mushrooms which is p impressive to do on tv a handful of years before raves became a thing How loving young are you? Do you even know who Dr. Timothy Leary is? You idolize a total idiot, sorry.
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Oct 2, 2016 10:51
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i want to do the mushrooms but i do not want to get arrested or lose my job over it
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Oct 2, 2016 10:53
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I AM THE TOILET posted:i want to do the mushrooms but i do not want to get arrested or lose my job over it Do the mushrooms m8 just don't be an idiot about it. Hell, your attitude proves you've got what it takes to trip balls without becoming a dumb loving hippy, and your username foreshadows what enlightening insight you'll be granted by the mushroom god. 
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Oct 2, 2016 14:08
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Rubellavator posted:I've heard this a lot recently and I think it comes from Louis CK or maybe Jon Stewart? He definitely re-used certain bits like "Place for my Stuff" and "Football vs. Baseball" at least on his comedy albums. Regardless, even when he was doing the angry man comic, he'd still make time to do goofy inane poo poo. plus he was in the bill and ted movies
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Oct 2, 2016 17:10
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Schweinhund posted:Wow the government killed JFK. No one said that in 1994 man. Does he also do a bit where he talks about the moon landing being faked? Maybe go down to a psych ward and talk to some random guy with schizophrenia if you're missing the Bill Hicks experience. the random guy with schizophrenia at the psyche ward probably couldn't get a room to laugh and cheer as he talks about that poo poo though. that's actually pretty much the whole point of big bill
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Oct 2, 2016 17:44
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Mr Shiny Pants posted:Carlin is good. The "stuff" bit is nice but later on he became more like Bill Hicks IMHO with "The game is rigged" etc. etc. As for Bill Hicks not being talented, dude crawled out of his house at 16 or something to perform at comedy clubs in Texas for adult people. That sounds pretty talented to me. The last 10 years or so of Carlin's career is just bitter unfunny garbage, an old man lecturing you about how little he cares and how little you should care about anything.
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Oct 2, 2016 17:57
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Falun Bong Refugee posted:How loving young are you? Do you even know who Dr. Timothy Leary is? You idolize a total idiot, sorry. whoosh
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Oct 2, 2016 17:58
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Life is Worth Losing wasn't just an old man ranting. It should have been his last, as it would have been a great closer to his career
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Oct 2, 2016 18:34
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:he also liked to brag about doing hallucinogenic mushrooms which is p impressive to do on tv a handful of years before raves became a thing bill hicks is a leftie mallard fillmore
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Oct 2, 2016 18:51
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"Huh? Society? No thanks, i don't like this thing at all. It is bad" /crowd literally spontaneously shits themselves laughing "Do a drug. Now you are the best guy with all the secret knowledge!" /crowd ascends and becomes godlike, humanity is now a joke to them /multiple documentaries are made
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Oct 2, 2016 19:23
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He met the preacher characters
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Oct 2, 2016 21:22
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David Cross was pretty good during the Bush years, and even if he sucks now or then he was still a big part of the greatest comedy show ever created Mr. Show.
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Oct 3, 2016 03:38
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achillesforever6 posted:David Cross was pretty good during the Bush years, and even if he sucks now or then he was still a big part of the greatest comedy show ever created Mr. Show. hes grown a beard. he has serious opinions now
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Oct 3, 2016 03:41
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Dude is not funny
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Oct 3, 2016 03:42
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Orkin Mang posted:hes grown a beard. he has serious opinions now
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Oct 3, 2016 03:50
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I AM THE TOILET posted:i want to do the mushrooms but i do not want to get arrested or lose my job over it Well don't do them at work
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Oct 3, 2016 04:04
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achillesforever6 posted:I'm glad that the other Mr. Show writers/comedians aren't as serious. Bob Odenkirk can't even look serious when being in the running for an Emmy
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Oct 3, 2016 04:15
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Analytic Engine posted:Bob Odenkirk can't even look serious when being in the running for an Emmy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_AXFlPR9inY
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Oct 3, 2016 04:57
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Have a sticky.
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Oct 3, 2016 08:23
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Robokomodo posted:I got into he Bill Burr specials. Holy hell, he's hilarious. He's a riot. I remember some good bits from the old stuff. I could watch "I'm Sorry You Feel That Way" special monthly. Has just the right amount of harmless domestic chauvinism.
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Oct 3, 2016 13:31
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Love both Carlin and Hicks, but both went the same downhill later in their careers. Right amount of anger and bitterness can create some funny stuff, but becoming completely consumed by them makes you an unrelatable monster. Saw Louis live recently (he's first time touring Europe  ) and he has definitely tuned down the self-deprecating, in fact I can't remember any. Unless you count the "I'm too old to become gay" part. Seeing him live might have played a part, but in my opinion it might be some of his best stuff, mostly thanks to this.Bill Burr is supposed to come to Europe next year too, he's the only other current comedian I want to see.
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Oct 3, 2016 15:11
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achillesforever6 posted:I'm glad that the other Mr. Show writers/comedians aren't as serious. I get the feeling David Cross takes himself very seriously. He pretends not to, but deep down he knows he's always been the weak link in everything he's done and it eats him up inside.
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Oct 3, 2016 15:12
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achillesforever6 posted:I'm glad that the other Mr. Show writers/comedians aren't as serious. HAve you seeeeeen Patton Oswald's twitter???because, Imean, whow that guy!! Yoiks!
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Oct 3, 2016 15:18
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i remember enjoying hannibal buress' standup on a road trip with a lovely ex girlfriend. i had no clue who he was and deffo laughed at his poo poo more than all of the other garbage comedians pandora pulled up.
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Oct 3, 2016 15:24
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EVERYTHING IS RETARDED ARRRRRRRRRRGHHHH -This has been comedy by Bill Hicks
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Oct 3, 2016 15:43
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Why is it that so many angry-man comics squint in their promotional materials? I like to imagine it's because they are straining to see the truth!
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Oct 3, 2016 16:43
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Constipation, mostly Bad comedy could be cured with a couple of days of Metamucil
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Oct 3, 2016 16:46
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OMGVBFLOL posted:this post nails exactly what i was going for with my clumsy shitposting. I totally get how a wet behind the ears babby who's only ever known a world with the internet wouldn't be impressed with him, but in the context of the Reagan/Bush's years' great christian patriotic crusade against communism and drugs, he was inflammatory. Agreed. These kinds of opinions weren't super common or as outspoken back then, but I can see why people in their 20s would find it boring now. Also if you can't summon a chuckle for an extremely graphic description of a maggot writhing its way out of Rush Limbaugh's tiny corkscrew penis I don't know what to say.
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Oct 3, 2016 16:54
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tenspott posted:I get the feeling David Cross takes himself very seriously. He pretends not to, but deep down he knows he's always been the weak link in everything he's done and it eats him up inside. There's a podcast interview with Bob Odenkirk, I think it's one of Marc Maron's, that's pretty telling. Bob is very classy and never says anything bad about anyone, but there a a few times when he's talking about David Cross and he gets very stilted as he's trying to choose his words very carefully. And he mentions a few post Mr. Show projects that never went anywhere because Cross "wasn't committed to the idea". Like I said, he doesn't come out and say Cross is a dick but the way he sort of skirts the issue when his name comes up makes it pretty clear he's a pain in the rear end to deal with.
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Oct 3, 2016 16:57
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Kaedric posted:Agreed. These kinds of opinions weren't super common or as outspoken back then, but I can see why people in their 20s would find it boring now. I know what to say. Grow up.
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Oct 3, 2016 17:26
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I've tried listening to David Cross a few times. His thing seems to be telling stories with painfully long setups that have very disappointing payoffs. Also echoing Bill Burr love. His interviews on Conan are also pretty great since it's just Conan giving him a topic to rant about and letting him run with it.
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Oct 3, 2016 17:30
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nigga crab pollock posted:i remember enjoying hannibal buress' standup on a road trip with a lovely ex girlfriend. i had no clue who he was and deffo laughed at his poo poo more than all of the other garbage comedians pandora pulled up.
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Younger, ultra-mellow Carlin was much better than old, angry Carlin.
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