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X-O posted:His original pitch for his Nighthawk series was: I want to read this so bad omg
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Parallax posted:yeah this is what i figured. not against a black batman, but i'd be more interested in a black writer's take on batman, rather than trotting out a character for publicity only for wayne to become batman again in a year or two. and i swear to god if bendis is the one behind this What are you talking about, DC has never featured minority superheroes only to move them aside for more traditional white male heroes *cracks open new issue of The Green Lantern starring the best Green Lantern Hal Jordan*
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Sep 3, 2019 23:49
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At least John's the JL on the Justice League for this series. I'm not sure Hal's even appeared since No Justice.
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Sep 4, 2019 01:25
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Is this the thread for Batman discussion? Just finished Morrison’s Omnibus vol 1 and wtf is a Zurr En Arr? It’s like Batman lost his mind, got a gaudy suit, has a Batman version of the Great Gazoo as a sidekick and is generally just an awesome psychopath. But it felt like pieces of the story were missing. Overall though a great read.
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Sep 4, 2019 01:34
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Batmite predates the Great Gazoo by six years. Check out “The Super Batman of Planet X” episode of Batman: Brave and the Bold if you want to see what Zurr En Arrh’s Silver Age origins are about.
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Sep 4, 2019 01:40
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chaosapiant posted:Is this the thread for Batman discussion? Just finished Morrison’s Omnibus vol 1 and wtf is a Zurr En Arr? It’s like Batman lost his mind, got a gaudy suit, has a Batman version of the Great Gazoo as a sidekick and is generally just an awesome psychopath. But it felt like pieces of the story were missing. Overall though a great read. There's a Batman thread still, I think. Super-short context for the story: remember a scene where Bruce, in Nanda Parbat, asks the (evil) monk whether it might be possible to create a back-up "operating system" for a human mind in case yours is corrupted? Spoiler: Yes, yes it is. Super-short meta-context: Morrison decided "Robin Dies at Dawn!" plus like all the other Silver Age stories actually happened, or at least Batman actually remembered them happening (with any given story perhaps thanks to CTE, Joker venom exposure, etc.)
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Sep 4, 2019 01:43
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I saw the Nanananannnnanan Batman thread looks to be archived. Thanks for the explanations of the Zurr En Arr info; didn’t realize it went back to the silver age. I’m trying to decide what to read next: I’ve got two volumes of the Knightfall Omnibus that I need to get into, but I’ve also heard good/bad things regarding King’s Rebirth series. How’s Kong’s run?
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Sep 4, 2019 03:16
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chaosapiant posted:I saw the Nanananannnnanan Batman thread looks to be archived. Thanks for the explanations of the Zurr En Arr info; didn’t realize it went back to the silver age. A lot of the goofy stuff from Morrison's run has links to sliver age stories that Morrison just turned into Batman's mind palace.
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Sep 4, 2019 03:31
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Mr Hootington posted:A lot of the goofy stuff from Morrison's run has links to sliver age stories that Morrison just turned into Batman's mind palace. Wow, that’s a really succinct way to describe the madness I just read. That said, I absolutely love Damian Wayne in his hands and love that little psychopath Robin. He makes Jason Todd look like Jim Gordon.
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Sep 4, 2019 04:32
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chaosapiant posted:I’ve also heard good/bad things regarding King’s Rebirth series. How’s Kong’s run? Extremely high highs and low lows, but someone in another comics thread is going through it now and calling it the best ever, so it's worth a try. Some isolated bits and single issues are really really good. Teenage Fansub fucked around with this message at 05:33 on Sep 4, 2019 |
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Sep 4, 2019 04:59
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chaosapiant posted:I saw the Nanananannnnanan Batman thread looks to be archived. Thanks for the explanations of the Zurr En Arr info; didn’t realize it went back to the silver age. Read Knightfall first. The Bane/Batman dynamic is a huge part of King’s run.
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Sep 4, 2019 05:35
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Yea, of all the major Batman arcs I’ve read over the years, never did Knightfall. How does it hold up?
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Sep 4, 2019 05:53
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Teenage Fansub posted:At least John's the JL on the Justice League for this series. I'm not sure Hal's even appeared since No Justice. My example wasn't a joke, Hal is the lead of The Green Lantern by Grant Morrison (though granted he's becoming a Blackstar in 2 months so he won't be the main GL much longer)
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Sep 4, 2019 06:06
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chaosapiant posted:Yea, of all the major Batman arcs I’ve read over the years, never did Knightfall. How does it hold up? IMO it holds up pretty well but can come across a bit dated. It definitely feels interesting that Batman is treated more like an obsessive flawed human than some kind of hyper trained ninja demigod. Honestly for me 90's Batman is the best Batman for this aspect alone, and the story telling in Knightfall is really tight. It kind of loses a bit of steam after the break though.
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Sep 4, 2019 06:20
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TwoPair posted:My example wasn't a joke, Hal is the lead of The Green Lantern by Grant Morrison (though granted he's becoming a Blackstar in 2 months so he won't be the main GL much longer) I know. I just meant in Scott Snyder's JL saga.
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Sep 4, 2019 06:25
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While I’m discussing Batman, any opinions on the Grayson volumes? I have and have read vol 1 and really liked it. Does the entire story hold up? I need to expand my collection. And also since I love the Arkham games, how is the Batman Arkham Omnibus? I’ve heard mixed things regarding it.
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Sep 4, 2019 07:17
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Grayson stays great. New writers take over for the last few issues, and they're not as good, but it's well worth finishing.
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Sep 4, 2019 09:37
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Madkal posted:IMO it holds up pretty well but can come across a bit dated. It definitely feels interesting that Batman is treated more like an obsessive flawed human than some kind of hyper trained ninja demigod. Honestly for me 90's Batman is the best Batman for this aspect alone, and the story telling in Knightfall is really tight. It kind of loses a bit of steam after the break though. We can probably blame Morrison mostly for Batman becoming Batgod. Like Superman calling Batman "the most dangerous man alive" when he's the last man standing against the Hyperclan in Grant's JLA was a really cool moment but then it kept going.
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Sep 4, 2019 13:25
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oh god Legion Millennium is bad. not Age of Ultron bad, but definitely verging on Bendis self-parody
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Sep 4, 2019 14:42
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DCeased as a tie in one shot today lmao. They couldn't wait for the series to be over. Well it was entertaining like the series has been overall.
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Sep 4, 2019 15:10
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So do most of ya'll comic/DC fans collect every issue of runs you enjoy as they are released, or just pick them up later in volume/omnibus format? I'm in the latter camp since I didn't grow up collecting comics. I like having big thick books with complete storylines to read at my leisure rather than read a comic for 15 minutes and be done with it, not to mention how much space that must take up when storing them. Just curious what other folks do these days.
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Sep 4, 2019 18:18
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chaosapiant posted:So do most of ya'll comic/DC fans collect every issue of runs you enjoy as they are released, or just pick them up later in volume/omnibus format? I'm in the latter camp since I didn't grow up collecting comics. I like having big thick books with complete storylines to read at my leisure rather than read a comic for 15 minutes and be done with it, not to mention how much space that must take up when storing them. Just curious what other folks do these days. I'm an addict and buy single issues. A smart person would trade wait. Plus trades look better on book shelves.
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Sep 4, 2019 18:22
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Madkal posted:I'm an addict and buy single issues. A smart person would trade wait. Plus trades look better on book shelves. How do you store that many comics? I've seen lots of folks just have boxes and boxes of comics that get filed into the attic or some storage space somewhere. I actually enjoy reading and re-reading the books I buy and I think if I went the single-issue route I'd be more worried about ruining them and storing them than reading them. That's not meant to be a criticism as I find the hobby fascinating.
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Sep 4, 2019 18:25
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Trades tend not to have ads in them
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Sep 4, 2019 18:27
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More comic questions: If I wanted to break into some Superman, where can I find a good "must read" list? I'm talking about the Long Halloweens, Year Ones, Killing Jokes, and Dark Knight Returns of the Superman world. I saw there is an Omnibus on the Death/Resurrection of Supes, is there anything that goes into his origin that isn't Golden Age similar to Year One for Batman? I hope I'm phrasing this ask correctly. My collection is not insignificant but focues pretty much only on Batman and support Batman characters. I'd like to gives Supes a chance. I grew up with the Reeves movies but never got into reading the character.
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Sep 4, 2019 18:35
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Comic Book Herald has a great Superman guide, including standalones and his broader history.
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Space Fish posted:Comic Book Herald has a great Superman guide, including standalones and his broader history. Fantastic, the link even works at work. I'll take a look through this, thanks!
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Sep 4, 2019 18:43
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Last year I sold what I hope was my final singles collection, nearly 60 long boxes. It's too much effort to move around or search through to find poo poo. These days if I want to read a single issue I buy a digital copy. Trades are the better option because they look good on shelves. I have a somewhat large collection of trades and HCs. I've since added 4 more cubes of shelving and 600 more books. I might have a small problem here.
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Sep 4, 2019 19:21
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Good lord that's an impressive an intimidating collection. It also looks like you live in an office building.
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Sep 4, 2019 19:23
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It's my little dungeon of pop culturey poo poo. The shelves are now littered with figures and random crap. I have to move stuff to read a book.
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Barry Convex posted:oh god Legion Millennium is bad. not Age of Ultron bad, but definitely verging on Bendis self-parody I assume AoU at least had narrative hooks from issue to issue. This doesn't have that, unless you count "This is eventually going to be about the Legion of Superheroes, right?" or "I guess I'll keep reading to see why on earth you picked Rose and Thorn as the protagonist."
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Sep 4, 2019 19:27
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Rhyno posted:It's my little dungeon of pop culturey poo poo. The shelves are now littered with figures and random crap. I have to move stuff to read a book. I just have a small 4x4 "cube" shelf space for my trade volumes/Omnibuses, some figures and some Witcher poo poo ( love anything Witcher related) and it's not even full. Maybe one day!
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Sep 4, 2019 19:28
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I read singles in digital and if I really love something, I'll double dip with a trade (or preferably hardcover) later. This rarely happens.
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Endless Mike posted:I read singles in digital and if I really love something, I'll double dip with a trade (or preferably hardcover) later. This rarely happens. I'm definitely moving this way with books in general, but for comics I still like to collect the trades instead of digital. It's good for bubblebath reading. I don't want to gently caress with my iPad in a bubblebath.
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Just some random Superman books I enjoyed. Superman: Birthright is a good, more modern (there's internet, but it predates smartphones) retelling of Superman's origin. All-Star Superman Action Comics by Grant Morrison (it's the first 18 issues of the New 52 relaunch, it's available as 3 trades or I think an omnibus) It's a Bird by Steven Seagle (not really about Superman, but about how we think about Superman) Up, up and away Red Son
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I worked comic retail for a long time so my transition to digital was unwilling but man do I prefer it these days. I currently just rock an Amazon Fire tablet to read them and don't see a need to upgrade that since I'll eventually get a trade of the stuff I really enjoy.
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Teenage Fansub posted:I assume AoU at least had narrative hooks from issue to issue. This doesn't have that, unless you count "This is eventually going to be about the Legion of Superheroes, right?" or "I guess I'll keep reading to see why on earth you picked Rose and Thorn as the protagonist." yeah, I assumed based on the solicitations and PR around this project that there would be some sort of narrative thread connecting these various DC future characters to each other and the Legion, but there simply isn't one, aside from Rose/Thorn showing up in each of them to whine about being immortal still think AoU is worse, though. at least this is only two issues
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Tom Taylor teasing something. From the hashtags, I'm guessing Suicide Squad. https://twitter.com/TomTaylorMade/status/1169318723397677056
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Sep 4, 2019 20:25
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Doomsday Clock is a big ol' mess. 
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Recapping everything in endless expository dialogue didn't help Did the second to last issue of Watchmen have Ozy explaining everything for almost an entire issue? He probably felt he had to mirror that. Lol at the gradual blood drip over the clock in the back covers of the series being revealed to be Superman's cape. edit: I bet he had to dust his Saturn Girl (also from King's Batman) because of Bendis, and that wasn't the original plan. Teenage Fansub fucked around with this message at 20:38 on Sep 4, 2019 |
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