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The Ferret King posted:The only v-tail business jets I can think of are the Cirrus SF50 and the Eclipse 400, neither of which are in active service. Cirrus has 3 SF50 prototypes that were deemed airworthy this year and are in flight testing, so it's entirely possible to see a SF50 somewhere. And indeed N250CV (the first prototype) flew somewhere on thursday night, although flightradar24 has no idea where it flew
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Apparently there's a Mossie undergoing restoration in Victoria, BC! It seems to be coming along quite well, last month they hung the engines and fired them up! Run up from outside: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZCUTr-eOwk And from inside: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Mh5YoNhkXg
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ehnus posted:Apparently there's a Mossie undergoing restoration in Victoria, BC! It seems to be coming along quite well, last month they hung the engines and fired them up! So much of the mosquito's character came from the matched CW & CCW merlins that it seems wrong that all the flying models are going to be DHC mosquitos with unmatched CCW & CCW engines 
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May 31, 2014 18:00
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This is a really strong airplanes tumblr. http://supersonic-youth.tumblr.com/ Great name, too.
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May 31, 2014 21:03
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SybilVimes posted:So much of the mosquito's character came from the matched CW & CCW merlins that it seems wrong that all the flying models are going to be DHC mosquitos with unmatched CCW & CCW engines The Mosquito had engines rotate in the same direction, it was the Hornet that had CW/CCW rotating engines.
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May 31, 2014 21:37
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Slo-Tek posted:This is a really strong airplanes tumblr. Scrolling through that, the hell is this? 
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May 31, 2014 21:50
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Ardeem posted:Scrolling through that, the hell is this? That is the BTD Destroyer. It was supposed to replace the SBD Dauntless but we nuked Japan before it went into full scale production.
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May 31, 2014 21:53
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Ardeem posted:Scrolling through that, the hell is this? Navy torpedo bomber http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_BTD_Destroyer
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May 31, 2014 21:53
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I don't know what it is about that plane, but it's fuckin sexy 
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May 31, 2014 22:00
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Wait they were still making torpedo bombers in 1945? You'd think after Midway everyone would have just started pretending they'd never existed.
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May 31, 2014 22:05
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FrozenVent posted:Wait they were still making torpedo bombers in 1945? It was to replace the sbd dauntless and the avenger so it was a bomber that could hold torpedoes. As for torpedo bombers in general PBY Catalinas had good luck with commerce raiding until the end of the war by flying at night.
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May 31, 2014 22:13
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FrozenVent posted:Wait they were still making torpedo bombers in 1945? There were a bunch of interesting late-war torpedo bombers. The Martin Mauler rocked a R-4360 at a couple degrees off center to counteract torque steering. Still holds the record for heaviest warload on a reciprocating engine off of a carrier deck. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_AM_Mauler Then there was the Boeing Five In One Bomber/Interceptor/Torpedo bomber/dive bomber/escort fighter. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_XF8B
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May 31, 2014 22:42
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Slo-Tek posted:Then there was the Boeing Five In One Bomber/Interceptor/Torpedo bomber/dive bomber/escort fighter. Pffft, no laser.
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May 31, 2014 23:01
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FrozenVent posted:Wait they were still making torpedo bombers in 1945? They were still building torpedo bombers into the fifties. The Skyraider fired torpedoes in combat in Korea. At a dam. 
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May 31, 2014 23:32
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If you want to get technical, we still have torpedo bombers in service to hunt submarines
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May 31, 2014 23:49
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Anyone ever been to the American Helicopter museum? Is it worth the visit? I am in southern NJ and the National Air and Space museum is just out of day trip range but West Chester is close.
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Snowdens Secret posted:If you want to get technical, we still have torpedo bombers in service This is one of them: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_P-8_Poseidon 
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Jun 1, 2014 00:23
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I really like planes that don't follow conventional design rules, like the P-38 Lightning and the P-61 Black Widow. What other planes out there don't follow the rules and look better for it?   
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DeHavilland vampire, argueably everything Burt Rutan's ever put his name on, Beechcraft Staggerwing, Shinden, and the thread favorite Bugatti 100?
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Ardeem posted:argueably everything Burt Rutan's ever put his name on Not arguable. Fact. 
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pik_d posted:I really like planes that don't follow conventional design rules, like the P-38 Lightning and the P-61 Black Widow. What other planes out there don't follow the rules ~opens up Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe~~ quote:and look better for it? ~sighs, closes Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe back up~~ Also I'm not sure what 'conventional design rules' means here. The P-38/P-61's twin prop, twin boom form factor wasn't that different from some older biplanes or, in a way, a reversed version of the Wright Flier. The De Haviland Sea Vixen also does twin-boom a lot screwier, because it also pushes the cockpit to one side to fit an odd little 'coal hole' for another dude: 
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Jun 1, 2014 03:36
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aunt jemima posted:Not arguable. Fact. Yeah this works  
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Agreed.  Of course, being unconventional doesn't always make you pretty. Blohm & Voss Bv-141  Heinkel He-162  Westland Lysander P12  Miles M.35 Libellula 
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This is almost as good as pusher props, what the hell is it? 
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Kitfox88 posted:This is almost as good as pusher props, what the hell is it? It's a Pond Racer, introduced in 1991, so in my mind it is directly responsible for Star Wars' Pod Racers, so a bit of a black mark against it.
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pik_d posted:It's a Pond Racer, introduced in 1991, so in my mind it is directly responsible for Star Wars' Pod Racers, so a bit of a black mark against it. Designed for racing at Reno, it had a pair of methanol-swallowing turbocharged Nissan VG30 engines running at ~600hp each. There was only one Pond Racer built, and it crashed not long after it took to the sky, killing its pilot
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Jun 1, 2014 05:24
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Well that's sad to hear. Bless the nutter who wanted to fly that crazy thing though. 
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Gulfstream IV crashed on takeoff outside Boston, went off the end of the runway, 7 people on board, sounds like at least one fatality. http://boston.cbslocal.com/2014/05/31/jet-goes-off-runway-on-departure-from-hanscom-field-in-bedford/ http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/2014/05/31/report-plane-crashes-hanscom-airfield/y8uzrr7aUQ1FiTck4uicRO/story.html area of the crash http://goo.gl/maps/QUx5q EDIT: Sounds like a decent amount of jet fuel spilled into the Shawsheen river, just heard a radio call over the Bedford Fire dispatch to tell the Bedford DPW to shut off the wells on the river downstream from the crash. Kilonum fucked around with this message at 05:49 on Jun 1, 2014 |
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The OV-10 Bronco is a bit strange looking as well.
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I'm partial to N318SL
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Kilonum posted:Gulfstream IV crashed on takeoff outside Boston, went off the end of the runway, 7 people on board, sounds like at least one fatality. It's bigger than a junglejet, CRJ and most turboprops.
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Fucknag posted:Westland Lysander P12 I love it! It's like a biplane where half of the wing is at the front and the other half is at the back.
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Tsuru posted:I love how many outlets call a G4 a "small private plane" or a "small jet". Maybe the small versions of those, but the E-170/190 family are all larger than the largest G4, as are the CRJ-700/900s and the Q400 turboprop. If it's smaller than a 737 it's "a small jet" imo.
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RandomPauI posted:I love it! It's like a biplane where half of the wing is at the front and the other half is at the back. Tandem wings are a thing sometimes. Also behold, an ugly Rutan. 
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Fucknag posted:Agreed. It's like an adolecent A-10a  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IBj2ibN-4M&t=33s
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Ardeem posted:Tandem wings are a thing sometimes. Does he actually sell any of his creations? Or are they all just prototypes? If the latter, how does his company make money, outside of collaborations with Beardy Branson? Or are the bizarre aircraft prototypes just a hobby/promotion funded by his main business? (which is...)
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His company is called Scaled Composites, and is technically owned by Northrop Grumman. You may remember them from winning the X Prize with a privatly funded orbiter. Most of his aircraft are one-off proof of concept types, but kits and plans for several canard based home built aircraft were (are?) available.
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Ardeem posted:His company is called Scaled Composites, and is technically owned by Northrop Grumman. You may remember them from winning the X Prize with a privatly funded orbiter. Most of his aircraft are one-off proof of concept types, but kits and plans for several canard based home built aircraft were (are?) available. Yeah I knew the name, but not what they actually do. So, basically they're a R&D subsidiary for a big military (and related industry) contractor. They pile money and resources in, he comes up with some crazy idea for a spindly gossamer hyperglider (that actually works because he's some kind of savant), N-G says thanks Burt and develops a surveillance drone using gossamer hyperglider tech. Is that about right?
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Linedance posted:Yeah I knew the name, but not what they actually do. So, basically they're a R&D subsidiary for a big military (and related industry) contractor. They pile money and resources in, he comes up with some crazy idea for a spindly gossamer hyperglider (that actually works because he's some kind of savant), N-G says thanks Burt and develops a surveillance drone using gossamer hyperglider tech. Is that about right? Yeah, and meanwhile N-G has a spindly gossamer hyperglider with a 17 hour loiter time for use for anything from weather research to being the worlds weirdest mobile hotspot.
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Ardeem posted:Yeah, and meanwhile N-G has a spindly gossamer hyperglider with a 17 hour loiter time for use for anything from weather research to being the worlds weirdest mobile hotspot. And I guess it leaves him free to take on private contracts too, for when some crazy billionaire says "I WANNA SPACE PLANE!", Scaled Composites can go ahead and build one, and N-G can reap any benefits without risking their reputation by building space planes for crazy billionaires. Neat.
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