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Such Fun posted:No! Don't worry, I agree. The Preacher panel has never sat right with me. Also, using any kind of body shaming isn't a great argument against people who are/were infamously into eugenics. "Unt now ve vill pass ze law for aborting ze chinless, ya?"
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Johnny Aztec posted:Jesus christ, Fine. I won't mock a Nazi. Wait is the argument we can only do one or the other? Because I want to do both.
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Proteus Jones posted:Wait is the argument we can only do one or the other? You only get to mock the nazi for being stupid but not ugly in our brave new world
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Proteus Jones posted:Wait is the argument we can only do one or the other? I mean, I guess you could mock their personal life choices, just not their face/body? I unno, I'm not in charge of killing Nazis. Do it however you feel best, friend.
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Kind of ironic they are worried about toy sales of action figures of characters giving head when every 11 year olds action figures are gonna be constantly 69ing when their parents aren't watching.
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Johnny Aztec posted:Jesus christ, Fine. I won't mock a Nazi. Proteus Jones posted:Wait is the argument we can only do one or the other? Nazis have become the hilarious bogeymen of these forums. 1 post = 1 punch. But how about taking a moment to grasp just why these people are reprehensible, instead of this glee at having a morally acceptable punching bag?
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*turns chair around to sit on it backwards* Did you ever just think about why Nazis need punching?
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Such Fun posted:Nazis have become the hilarious bogeymen of these forums. 1 post = 1 punch. Done. Now lets get back to punching.
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Such Fun posted:Nazis have become the hilarious bogeymen of these forums. 1 post = 1 punch. a bunch of guys spent a while figuring out the why a little over seventy years ago, don't want to step on their toes
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Such Fun posted:But how about taking a moment to grasp just why these people are reprehensible, instead of this glee at having a morally acceptable punching bag? Why were they reprehensible? Who loving cares. All I know is that I had to watch as they lowered my friend into his grave.
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Ellie Trashcakes posted:Three words: Phillip K. Shearer. Beaten into a coma on July 3, 1993. Removed from life support July 8, 1993. In 24 days he will have been dead 28 years. Two people were convicted in his death: Matthew Owens and Sean Ono. They had every advantage in life. They went to good schools, were from "good" families and went on to lead comfortable lives because why ruin the futures of some promising young men just because their dalliance with neo-nazi ideology led to an unfortunately fatal oopsie? I’m so sorry for your loss. I feel a bit uncomfortable using your story of loss in an internet discussion, so I’ll do my best to be respectful. I think your experience actually falls in line with what I’ve been trying to express. If you’d meet Matthew Owens and Sean Ono on the street, I don’t think you would try to land a blow on them by pointing out the ways in which they fail to live up to their own standards. I imagine you would rage at these murderers. Talking about a nazi’s chin not only does injustice to their crimes, it also opens up the debate: aparently jaw size is something that matters. I get that you would feel that anything goes when it comes to hurting these people. But I’m afraid that we still have more to lose, and we will, if we let nazis become this bogeyman
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Oh for gently caress sake,just loving make fun of nazis! They’re reprehensible scum,laugh at them, beat them up!
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Brazilianpeanutwar posted:Oh for gently caress sake,just loving make fun of nazis! They’re reprehensible scum,laugh at them, beat them up! Or make an attempt to do that in a better way This is a discussion board and it's a worthwhile discussion
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Such Fun posted:I’m so sorry for your loss. hey, this post, it’s terrible fyi
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Every single thing that can be done to make Nazis feel unwelcome should be done. Because they are unwelcome. And they should never - ever - get the feeling like that isn't the case. If that means mocking their stupid face then mock it. If that means slashing their car tyres then slash them. Social ostracism is a powerful tool and one that is not employed anywhere near enough on fash. gently caress that decorum bullshit.
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Making fun of them online isn’t really accomplish that. Which is fine but I think people are a little online poisoned it they think their internet jabs do anything
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Actually making it clear WHY they are unwelcome is much better than making fun of immutable personal characteristics, which is what they do
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The Bloop posted:Actually making it clear WHY they are unwelcome is much better than making fun of immutable personal characteristics, which is what they do And part of this is pointing out why their own group doesn't want them either. "Hey that fella is talking about me" https://youtu.be/8K6-cEAJZlE
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Inceltown posted:Every single thing that can be done to make Nazis feel unwelcome should be done. Because they are unwelcome. And they should never - ever - get the feeling like that isn't the case. If that means mocking their stupid face then mock it. If that means slashing their car tyres then slash them. It’s not about decorum bullshit. It’s about the goals not justifying the means. We should be very critical of the means. I bet plenty of nazis would not enjoy being made out as a bunch of faggots. Going by what you have posted here, you would be fine with calling nazis faggots. Attacking people on the shape of their jaw is not quite the same, but pretty close.
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Such Fun posted:It’s not about decorum bullshit. It’s about the goals not justifying the means. We should be very critical of the means. Dewgy posted:hey, this post, it’s terrible fyi
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Such Fun posted:I’m so sorry for your loss. I'm just a little bit sensitive on the subject and I appreciate your patience.
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Nazis are a "bogeyman" because they loving want to murder p much all of us and have tried before you goddamn stooge. What is wrong with you?
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StillFullyTerrible posted:Nazis are a "bogeyman" because they loving want to murder p much all of us and have tried before you goddamn stooge. What is wrong with you? I’m kinda baffled at the idea that you think I’m arguing for a kinder treatment of nazis. I’m arguing that by using a certain group of insults against nazis you’re actually validating their position, and harming other people.
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Such Fun posted:I’m kinda baffled at the idea that you think I’m arguing for a kinder treatment of nazis.
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Such Fun posted:I’m kinda baffled at the idea that you think I’m arguing for a kinder treatment of nazis. I’ll be honest, if Hapsburg inbred fatty mclardass no chin is gonna turn Nazi because of how I insult Nazis, it was gonna happen with or without my input. “validating their position” lmao
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Such Fun posted:I’m kinda baffled at the idea that you think I’m arguing for a kinder treatment of nazis. i'm gonna make fun of ben shapiro by claiming he only comes up to the knee of a honeybee and because i have dwarfism irl i can and fuckin will do it and you can't stop me Dewgy posted:I’ll be honest, if Hapsburg inbred fatty mclardass no chin is gonna turn Nazi because of how I insult Nazis, it was gonna happen with or without my input. i think his position is "you will hurt the feelings of chinless/fat/inbred people if you make fun of nazis for those traits" which i disagree with but has some validity StillFullyTerrible has a new favorite as of 22:26 on Jun 14, 2021 |
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Hello I'm someone who's been on the wrong side of nazis continously in my life because they think I'm a brown, and also had a hard time growing up because I stand all of 5'4" tall today. If the only behaviour that separates us from them is what clothes we choose, Then what is the loving point? Look, insulting them isn't pointless I see that but its much less effective at making them cry than hitting them. And hitting them in the name of equality doesn't make all your ugly friends sad. ThisIsJohnWayne has a new favorite as of 22:43 on Jun 14, 2021 |
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ThisIsJohnWayne posted:Hello I'm someone who's been on the wrong side of nazis continously in my life because they think I'm a brown, and also had a hard time growing up because I stand all of 5'4" tall today. If the only behaviour that separates us from them is what clothes we choose, uhhhhhhhhh the main thing separating us from them is that they want to murder people like us and are actively attempting to do so stop loving acting like calling them names makes us just as bad, loving hell
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StillFullyTerrible posted:i'm gonna make fun of ben shapiro by claiming he only comes up to the knee of a honeybee and because i have dwarfism irl i can and fuckin will do it and you can't stop me First: yes it is pretty lovely towards those people. Second: the ‘validation’ comes from engaging the argument by saying they don’t live up to it themselves, instead of discrediting the argument as bullshit. Your dwarfism doesn’t give you a pass to denigrate other people’s height, the same way I don’t get to put down people by calling them a human being. It has very little to do with how much the subject deserves our scorn, and all to with who else hears what we’re saying.
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Insulting people for immutable physical characteristics makes you an rear end in a top hat Even if the people you are insulting are Nazis, which, yes, is orders of magnitude worse, it still hurts Innocents more than them That's the entire argument. Don't be an rear end in a top hat. Edit: it's not that it validates their arguments to them or convinces anyone to be a Nazi, it's that it hurts the same people they're trying to hurt The Bloop has a new favorite as of 23:02 on Jun 14, 2021 |
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StillFullyTerrible posted:stop loving acting like calling them names makes us just as bad, loving hell The issue is which names you’re calling them. Nobody but you is saying you’re just as bad. I think you and I are firmly on the same side of the fence. What I’m fumbling at communicating is that I think we need to stay mindful of why we oppose fascists; when we think we’re putting down nazis by mocking their ugly gently caress faces we’re actually playing along with their game instead of opposing it
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Such Fun posted:Nobody but you is saying you’re just as bad. ThisIsJohnWayne posted:If the only behaviour that separates us from them is what clothes we choose, also this entire thing got started by a belgian getting mad about korean feminists and so i think i'm done
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StillFullyTerrible posted:also this entire thing got started by a belgian getting mad about korean feminists and so i think i'm done By all means stop posting. But reducing a conversation like this is cheap as gently caress
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