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Serious_Cyclone
Oct 25, 2017

I appreciate your patience, this is a tricky maneuver

tokyo reject posted:

DeSantis comes off as more palatable to a loooot of conservatives/“moderate” type low-info voters. I think Biden beats Trump in 2024, but would lose to a DeSantis run.

DeSantis's policy platform is deeply unpopular in Florida by like 20/80 approval margins. DeSantis has neither the gross anti-charisma of Trump appealing to the brainwormed yokels nor the policy plan to appeal to the middle. Part of the reason Trump doesn't get these things done is precisely because they are deeply unpopular beyond just making broad announcements about them. So that's all he bothers to do and it's the low-info middle who says "yeah but that never happened" when discussing it with them.

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InsertPotPun
Apr 16, 2018

frank frank i feel you're missing my point. unless you are two hotdogs tied together?

oh poo poo! whatever happened to twitter alternative "frank"? did no one turn their crank to frank??

Rod Hoofhearted posted:

Well it’s about time!
Dude’s been jetting around for over two years spending millions on bullshit when his source of income is selling pillows. How he didn’t go broke already is a mystery. (It’s money laundering)
lol guy's gonna get a federal bailout because he spent all his money trying to overthrow the fed

Frank Frank
Jun 13, 2001

Mirrored
I successfully sued them for infringing upon my IP

Tarquinn
Jul 3, 2007


I know I’ve made some very poor decisions recently, but I can give you
my complete assurance that my work will be back to normal.
Hell Gem

Steadiman posted:

https://twitter.com/drmistercody/status/1636199637169356803
Since the whole Bethany Mandel embarassment our friends on the right have now been tripping over themselves to finally define "woke" and it's going about as well as expected. None of their definitions even come close to the very simple meaning of empathy and support it actually has.

If anything all these definitions prove that they're just using it as a catchall to apply to whatever boogyman they want people to be angry about today. Everyone already knew this, of course, but it's fun to see the mental gymnastics happening after calling them out on this for so long and they are writing soooooo many words to define a simple word. You can tell this took them by surprise because nobody thought to make a simple talking point about it, to distribute through the usual pundits, so everyone could get their stories in line. It's pretty pathetic

No wonder some of them have started pivoting to DEI instead, it's more nebulous and less simple to be turned into a gotcha by simply asking what it means.

armpit_enjoyer
Jan 25, 2023

my god. it's full of posts

StrangersInTheNight posted:

I'm not techie enough to confirm this but I've heard that NordVPN isn't even actually that good, that it leaks data all the time, which is partially why it's gotta get sponsored by every podcast in the universe

I don't have anything more than a mild gut feeling to back it up but with how aggressively NordVPN advertises on YouTube, it's got to be some CIA poo poo. One day, some geek came into the office and was like "I want to spy on rubes who know they need a VPN but aren't smart enough to install adblock" and thus was born NordVPN.

5er
Jun 1, 2000



Go broke lying. That's how a properly functioning reality ought to work. Not that we're in one.

haljordan
Oct 22, 2004

(Thinking about them
fish delites...)


WOMEN
FOR
TRUMP








5er posted:

Go broke lying. That's how a properly functioning reality ought to work. Not that we're in one.

The company has borrowed money, Mike Lindell is probably personally on the hook for jack poo poo

kazil
Jul 24, 2005


the boy who cried woke

5er
Jun 1, 2000


haljordan posted:

The company has borrowed money, Mike Lindell is probably personally on the hook for jack poo poo

That is just the Trumpest thing.

Kaiju Cage Match
Nov 5, 2012





LOL

StrangersInTheNight
Dec 31, 2007
ABSOLUTE FUCKING GUDGEON

Serious_Cyclone posted:

DeSantis's policy platform is deeply unpopular in Florida by like 20/80 approval margins. DeSantis has neither the gross anti-charisma of Trump appealing to the brainwormed yokels nor the policy plan to appeal to the middle. Part of the reason Trump doesn't get these things done is precisely because they are deeply unpopular beyond just making broad announcements about them. So that's all he bothers to do and it's the low-info middle who says "yeah but that never happened" when discussing it with them.

Trump has taught me never to rule out anyone that runs from winning, ever. If they're in the competition, they have a chance to win, plan accordingly.

zone
Dec 6, 2016


I want to see this fat gently caress behind bars. Or failing that, utterly bankrupt.

5er
Jun 1, 2000


StrangersInTheNight posted:

Trump has taught me never to rule out anyone that runs from winning, ever. If they're in the competition, they have a chance to win, plan accordingly.

Yup. That's been my personally revised stance ever since 2016.

Almost Smart
Sep 14, 2001

so your telling me you wasn't drunk or fucked up in anyway. when you had sex with me and that monkey
I think DeSantis is too much of a one-note evil dickhead to win a national election or serve a full term if he did. Trump balanced out his rotten agenda with plenty of head scratching WTF moments like changing hurricane trajectories with a sharpie (or threatening to nuke them), staring at a solar eclipse, or suggesting bleach and sunshine enemas to cure Covid. He did real damage to this country, make no mistake about that, but he was too goddamn stupid and capricious to follow through with a lot of it.

You wouldn’t get any of that with DeSantis - just a constant stream of grievances, culture wars and petty retribution. It might make a dwindling number of MAGA hogs moist, but it would turn off just about everyone else. And since he doesn’t have a single conciliatory cell in his body, it would only be a matter of time before he did something truly heinous to strike back at a real or perceived slight, and the violent protests would snowball from there.

F_Shit_Fitzgerald
Feb 2, 2017



StrangersInTheNight posted:

Trump has taught me never to rule out anyone that runs from winning, ever. If they're in the competition, they have a chance to win, plan accordingly.

Exactly. I'd never bet on the idea that Meatball has no chance of winning because he's a weird little pervert. There will be people who vote for him precisely because of his weird personality quirks.

Toxic Mental
Jun 1, 2019

DeSantis has a better chance of winning in a head to head vs. Biden or Gavin Newsom probably but luckily Trump still has his talons firmly in the brains of the GOP voter base and he will 100% still run from prison or third party. When do the primaries start? It's not soon enough.



edit:

Meatball Ron

Toxic Mental fucked around with this message at 17:58 on Mar 16, 2023

haljordan
Oct 22, 2004

(Thinking about them
fish delites...)


WOMEN
FOR
TRUMP








Yeah it's incredible to see people discounting DeSantis so much when that's PRECISELY what happened with Trump, good lord.

"DeSantis won't win because he's too much of a vindictive petty rear end in a top hat" is a HELL of a take.

George H.W. Cunt
Oct 6, 2010


Going broke? Must have gone woke. drat RIP

Serious_Cyclone
Oct 25, 2017

I appreciate your patience, this is a tricky maneuver

haljordan posted:

Yeah it's incredible to see people discounting DeSantis so much when that's PRECISELY what happened with Trump, good lord.

"DeSantis won't win because he's too much of a vindictive petty rear end in a top hat" is a HELL of a take.

It's also a mistake to prescribe magical powers of persuasion to either Trump or DeSantis. Trump is obviously extremely popular with the Trump base, but even that wasn't enough to win in 2020. DeSantis is not popular with the Trump base, to the point where Fox couldn't even find a DeSantis voter in a chud diner in Florida, they all wanted Trump.

Toxic Mental
Jun 1, 2019

Serious_Cyclone posted:

It's also a mistake to prescribe magical powers of persuasion to either Trump or DeSantis. Trump is obviously extremely popular with the Trump base, but even that wasn't enough to win in 2020. DeSantis is not popular with the Trump base, to the point where Fox couldn't even find a DeSantis voter in a chud diner in Florida, they all wanted TRUMP!.

Say it RIGHT

Pot Smoke Phoenix
Aug 15, 2007



Smoke 'em if you gottem!
Dinosaur Gum

zone posted:

I want to see this fat gently caress behind bars. Or failing that, utterly bankrupt.

It'll be glorious when Fox News sues Mike Pillow to pay for the Dominion lawsuit

Serious_Cyclone
Oct 25, 2017

I appreciate your patience, this is a tricky maneuver

Toxic Mental posted:

Say it RIGHT

Did you say TRUMP?

ProfessorMarvel
Jan 6, 2021

Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.

F4rt5 posted:

I agree, but also posit a compromise: All bird-like characters in the Duck universe are ducks, but with several subspecies of duck, displaying qualities like our separate species of bird. Or something.

Okay now explain the anthromorphic pigs and dogs (beagles? Bulldogs?) on that show

haljordan
Oct 22, 2004

(Thinking about them
fish delites...)


WOMEN
FOR
TRUMP








Serious_Cyclone posted:

It's also a mistake to prescribe magical powers of persuasion to either Trump or DeSantis. Trump is obviously extremely popular with the Trump base, but even that wasn't enough to win in 2020. DeSantis is not popular with the Trump base, to the point where Fox couldn't even find a DeSantis voter in a chud diner in Florida, they all wanted Trump.

Yeah well we'll see what happens once the DeSantis boat parades start up!!!!

Serious_Cyclone
Oct 25, 2017

I appreciate your patience, this is a tricky maneuver

haljordan posted:

Yeah well we'll see what happens once the DeSantis boat parades start up!!!!

The DeSantis vs Trump naval battle we all need right now

Infinitum
Jul 30, 2004


haljordan posted:

Yeah it's incredible to see people discounting DeSantis so much when that's PRECISELY what happened with Trump, good lord.

"DeSantis won't win because he's too much of a vindictive petty rear end in a top hat" is a HELL of a take.

As I said earlier, DeSantis is the one you need to be scared of.
Not sure if it's just as an outside observer it's easier to see that the Republican candidates are going to come down to Trump and DeSantis, but that's what it will be

Like we can see your media slowly turning against Trump, and all the monolithic lawsuits 'eventually' heading his way, but the best you can hope for in that broken rear end system of yours is that he becomes enough of a poison pill that that even the benefit of a cult of personality won't win him an election.
DeSantis on the other hand has been slowly, and gradually, turning Florida into a civil rights waste land with no end in sight.

They're both idiots, but DeSantis gets things done while Trump is just a sock puppet.

Barring some miracle where Trump actually gets held accountable as the traitor he is, he'll be running again.
Ain't nothin gonna happen

ProfessorMarvel
Jan 6, 2021

Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.

SpaceGoatFarts posted:

I asked Dall-e for it and it came up with this



That's just the duck version of Joe Manchin

trilljester
Dec 7, 2004

The People's Tight End.

haljordan posted:

Yeah well we'll see what happens once the DeSantis boat parades start up!!!!

Those Trump Boat Parade failures gave me some pretty good lols

anonumos
Jul 14, 2005

Fuck it.
But what about Nikki Haley? Doesn't she have a shot of winning the nom?

haljordan
Oct 22, 2004

(Thinking about them
fish delites...)


WOMEN
FOR
TRUMP








anonumos posted:

But what about Nikki Haley? Doesn't she have a shot of winning the nom?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_n5E7feJHw0

Oscar Wild
Apr 11, 2006

It's good to be a G
DeSanta vs Trump depends on if the other Republicans 3 stooge it like last time. Also interesting to see if republican voters finally smell the stink of failure on trump. It smells like Fish Delites and ketchup.

Strong Sauce
Jul 2, 2003

https://twitter.com/CNN/status/1636072084026662913

https://twitter.com/NewYorker/status/1636026360517754881

if you've ever read my posts in here you might be familiar with this guy. supposed anti-china anti-xi "billionaire" who fled china because he said the chinese government was out to get him. chinese gov't said he committed lots of fraud... so yeah who is right, who is wrong. doesn't matter now.

steve wynn, because he had casinos in macau was pressured into trying to convince trump to sign a letter extraditing guo and trump was about to do it, except hr mcmaster said, "no. don't do this, why are you listening to the chinese government." and trump just dropped it.

you may also know him as the guy whose yacht steve bannon was on before steve bannon was arrested by the US postal inspectors (yes thats a thing and yes he was got by them).

steve was pardoned for his border wall scam.
guo wengui, aka, miles kwok, aka miles guo. is not a US citizen.

sugar free jazz
Mar 5, 2008

haljordan posted:

Yeah it's incredible to see people discounting DeSantis so much when that's PRECISELY what happened with Trump, good lord.

"DeSantis won't win because he's too much of a vindictive petty rear end in a top hat" is a HELL of a take.

he can't win because he sounds like a weenie

marshalljim
Mar 6, 2013

yospos
You know Ronnie Meatballs is already having regular training sessions where one of his minions pretends to be Trump and Lil Ron has to debate without losing his cool.

haljordan
Oct 22, 2004

(Thinking about them
fish delites...)


WOMEN
FOR
TRUMP








marshalljim posted:

You know Ronnie Meatballs is already having regular training sessions where one of his minions pretends to be Trump and Lil Ron has to debate without losing his cool.

Probably more prep than Hillary did

Raskolnikov2089
Nov 3, 2006

Infinitum posted:

As I said earlier, DeSantis is the one you need to be scared of.
Not sure if it's just as an outside observer it's easier to see that the Republican candidates are going to come down to Trump and DeSantis, but that's what it will be

My dude, we have the largest nuclear arsenal in the world and the largest military in the world, by far. You may think you're an "outside observer" but if the US goes full fash, you're still on the receiving end of US foreign policy, only now it's powered by the desire to spread woke-free freedom.

The Fuzzy Hulk
Nov 22, 2007

ASK ME ABOUT CROSSING THE STREAMS


I found this image on Twitter, and will be using it at work to try and convince this old lady I work with to support Biden.



She loves Trump, but HATES abortion. If she says it was the justices that Trump picked that did it, I'll just say they were the same ones on the court when Trump was president but waited until they had a Catholic in office to do it.

fishing with the fam
Feb 29, 2008

Durr
Yeah, that'll show her.

Mr Ice Cream Glove
Apr 22, 2007

https://twitter.com/stevanzetti/status/1636140966456307712?s=20

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withak
Jan 15, 2003


Fun Shoe

The Fuzzy Hulk posted:

I found this image on Twitter, and will be using it at work to try and convince this old lady I work with to support Biden.



She loves Trump, but HATES abortion. If she says it was the justices that Trump picked that did it, I'll just say they were the same ones on the court when Trump was president but waited until they had a Catholic in office to do it.

Always remember that you can't reason someone out of a position that they didn't reason themselves into.

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