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MetaMeme posted:I actually figured out the entire roster from first principles no need to thank me No following up Twee Tea with Bird, then sticking them all with Tenebrais. 2/10 best I can give you.
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MetaMeme posted:I actually figured out the entire roster from first principles no need to thank me I see the ultimate showdown of ultimate destiny is still on track.
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Okay the idea was appealing enough that I had to make this edit so I have officially joined the Fanart Club. Presenting: Sephirot Sentai Libranger 
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Artificer posted:I like the oc stuff. At this point I'm just as concerned about their story as I am Lobotomy Corp's. I like that. Yeah! I couldn't figure out how to phrase it, but I agree with this.
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I like the OC stuff, it provides some contrast and pacing against the repeated vague spookypasta of the game's scenes. Which are definitely more concrete than LobCorp's scenes but also feel kind of filler (just the nature of teaching gameplay sometimes). And it's usually easy to skip past in the post as the nametags and portraits are so different at a glance, if you want to. Also I just like them. *shrug* One thing I found difficult trying to play this game is how the UI for building your decks feels a bit obtuse and also just GIANT WALL OF CARDS in your face. Though IIRC it does have a bunch of stuff for how you can just make a build and equip it on and off people. If you have 4x of a card, does that mean everyone could equip four of it, or four across a floor? Or four across the library? EDIT : Metameme, have a slowclap for the ancient flash reference.  Though part of me wonders if TQ will have Chinley and Omni merge into a single Chomni being for librarian slots.
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Tylana posted:If you have 4x of a card, does that mean everyone could equip four of it, or four across a floor? Or four across the library? Four across the library. Putting in someone's deck expends one of it (unless you take it out, of course).
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Yep, which makes necessitates a fair amount of grinding in most cases. This can especially be aggravating for fights that have many rewards, that are very difficult, or both.
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Ros and Los posted:Yep, which makes necessitates a fair amount of grinding in most cases. This can especially be aggravating for fights that have many rewards, that are very difficult, or both. Well, that or you just don't set up your floors such that all of them are battle-ready at all times. We've got five floors now and are pushing towards having three fighters on each of them, which makes fifteen decks to populate - but you're only going to be using two floors or so at most in a single reception, so you could just swap around your powerful cards and key pages as you need them.
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nightelf_37 posted:Do you think it's a good idea to name potential extra Assistant Librarians? Or do we wait until all the original 33 have been returned? Here's the suggested ones so far. IIRC other random employees brought up were Nathan, who Binah demonstrated certain aspects of Extraction with, and Tiffany. Ishmael might be a bit weird considering Limbus Company Bus introducing another Ishmael. Though she(?) does already look weirdly like another employee from WonderLab, so I guess we can just assume Limbus Ishmael is some weird Mountain Of Smiling Bodies thing.
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MetaMeme posted:I actually figured out the entire roster from first principles no need to thank me I apologize, in advance, to Gebura and Tenebrais. If nothing else: I am ready to die repeatedly for the team.
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I can say that the existence of an Ishmael in another Project Moon work effectively deconfirms them from this one.  It’s like how you never see a mii fighter costume for a character already in the game.
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TeeQueue posted:I can say that the existence of an Ishmael in another Project Moon work effectively deconfirms them from this one. it all makes sense now: clearly the Head enforces the "One Steve Limit" on some scale (probably by organization; if it was "one Steve for the entire city", they'd run out of names). That's why the clerks are assigned letters and numbers, and why Mr. Black uses his last name (Mr. Blond has a different reason): the "One Steve Limit" only applies to what people are called, not their actual names. It's also why the Joshua incident had to handled so quickly.
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Tenebrais posted:Well, that or you just don't set up your floors such that all of them are battle-ready at all times. We've got five floors now and are pushing towards having three fighters on each of them, which makes fifteen decks to populate - but you're only going to be using two floors or so at most in a single reception, so you could just swap around your powerful cards and key pages as you need them. A fair, and very good, point. I advise new players to take this approach in the early game and save themselves the headache. Trust me, it is not worth it. However, this is the sequel to Lobotomy "That's Lobotomy" Corporation. You can not tell to me expect for PM to not send curveballs our way after LC almost required ripping off the space bar on your keyboard. I went into this expecting to be ready for only one-floor fights as well as needing three floors at the ready. I had also expected for an Abnormality to crash a regular reception at some point, but that is neither here nor there.
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BisbyWorl posted:No following up Twee Tea with Bird, then sticking them all with Tenebrais. 2/10 best I can give you. Tough but fair
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Junpei posted:Okay the idea was appealing enough that I had to make this edit so I have officially joined the Fanart Club. Presenting: Yes good. Most excellent.
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t3isukone posted:IIRC other random employees brought up were Nathan, who Binah demonstrated certain aspects of Extraction with, and Tiffany. Tiffany? From where? Was she one of those employees who requested Enkephalin from Hod? New list of potential "newcomers". Again, not counting the sacrificial "Tenebrais fanclub" of Clerks or the Rabbit Team stand-ins from Day 49. 1. Epsilon25 - Clerk who finished an Ordeal. (Will probably get a different name just like Zeta21 became Zaida.) 2. Alpha23 - Clerk who finished an Ordeal. (Same as above.) 3. [VACANT] 4. [VACANT] 5. Tiffany - ??? 6. Nathan - Binah's example. 7. Anastasia - Hokma's example. MetaMeme posted:I actually figured out the entire roster from first principles no need to thank me I distinctly remember a T. Hinman there. And the dead ones such as Sephiroth, Boksi, and Talow are absent.
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nightelf_37 posted:Tiffany? From where? Was she one of those employees who requested Enkephalin from Hod? Yes, Tiffany is the employee who ODs on Enkephalin in Hod's LC story line.
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Don't forget "that employee who really wanted to quit at the start of the story but got murdered by Malkuth". Oh, and Christopher. Who may or may not have become Nothing There.
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nightelf_37 posted:the dead ones such as Sephiroth, Boksi, and Talow are absent. nightelf_37 posted:I distinctly remember a T. Hinman there. You got me good homeboy, you managed to puzzle out the one inconsistency in my otherwise bulletproof reasoning
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Made a version of the Sephirot Sentai Libranger with all of them... will probably remake it one more time when I can replace the Middle and Lower (err, Upper now) with Library of Ruina portraits
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Junpei posted:Made a version of the Sephirot Sentai Libranger with all of them... will probably remake it one more time when I can replace the Middle and Lower (err, Upper now) with Library of Ruina portraits  ALL OF MY FIVE 
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What would their theme song be? Libaranger me from hell? :P
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CHiRAL posted:
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Junpei posted:Made a version of the Sephirot Sentai Libranger with all of them... will probably remake it one more time when I can replace the Middle and Lower (err, Upper now) with Library of Ruina portraits Roland isn't in black?
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Tenebrais posted:You got it all wrong! That feel when I have a better Rita Repulsa equivalent in mind, but it would be yet another omega spoiler.
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Narsham posted:Roland isn't in black? Binah/Extraction was black in the last game
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Narsham posted:Roland isn't in black? Keter’s theme color is white.
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AweStriker posted:Keter’s theme color is white. Wait, I got it backward? I thought Records/Hokma was white and Keter/Architecture was grey.
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Keter's 'color' is typically not a color/colorless/transparent or invisible Binah is black Chokhmah is gray, oddly enough TalonDemonKing fucked around with this message at 04:33 on Nov 12, 2021 |
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Book 14: Zwei Association 3—Chapter 2 Music: GuestBattle01   Looks like we're finally up again. Everyone's sober, right?  Ready to go on my end. Steve, did you ever figure out how you wanted to fight?  I wasn't sure what to go with, so in the end I went with ol' reliable: Hitting people really hard with a bat!While Zaida and Roland both have largely defensive builds, Steve's using something more offense oriented. Guardian's his 1-cost option because it powers up everyone else's defensive dice.  Today's reception is a 2-Act battle with us having a maximum of 2 floors available—our very first truly fair fight. The first wave is another trio of Zwei with one blue leader and two green underlings.  Music: KeterBattle01  We've done this exact fight twice already, so I'll just cover some highlights.  Roland clashes Retaliate vs Retaliate. Since the base Zwei page is Weak/Fatal to Piercing, this could have been bad—instead he just wins both rolls and Staggers the other guy.  Zaida also takes some damage from an enemy Retaliate.  So she gets the Heart to heal some of it off.  Steve downs his first guest in Scene 3.  I realize that E-endure is kind of terrible against these guys due to their resistance to Blunt damage.  And I go with Pulsation, to up our offensive abilities. Music: KeterBattle02  I'm really feeling it… wait, I'm not feeling anything yet. Maybe give it a minute? Oh, so it's one of those delayed gratification things. That's... not great.While Abnormality pages are picked between rounds, it's after the point where end-of-turn effects kick on. This means that our first turn under Pulsation doesn't give us any Strength, but the negative effect still applies if we fail to deal damage.   Despite being the one with actual offensive dice, Steve is the only one to fail to harm his opponent, and he loses 25% of his HP at the end of the turn.  Once our Strength comes online, though, the Zwei have no chance.  Steve sets up the last one…  And Roland finishes them off.  Hey, that went pretty smooth! Is there time for a break before the next round? Sorry, not my call.Music: GuestBattle01  Act 2 puts us up against our main opponents. The third Zwei is another of the green flunkies, but the other two…  Isadora isn't too bad—trading the HP healing passive for one that deals bonus Stagger damage—but Walter is our first opponent with a Speed passive. This means we're going to have 4 dice coming at our 3. I think I'm missing a kidney… Eh, walk it off. I nearly lost a scythe and you don't see me crying.   Your team seems to still be operating within acceptable parameters. Why thank you, ma'am~ Seems like the others took a bit of a beating, though. Regardless, I'll entrust the rest of the reception to you. Handle it.Music: KeterBattle02   Isadora. Keep your guard up. Yes sir. Welcome, guests. We'll be your ordeal this evening. Stop joking around. This is a fight to the death, isn't it? And that uniform of yours is a reminder of what happens to us should we fall. Don't get so paranoid! I just happen to like this sword a bit, is all. Didn't you wear that other kid's body to— Listen, that stuff only works with amateurs and sentimental types. There's no way I'd try it here.  Enough whispering! Draw your blades, men! Sir!   Just some basic clashes. Since we're not using Mars, Isadora's attack gets to go through uncontested. Nothing we can do about that.   That body's from one of the Hook Office, isn't it? What's it matter? My men have fought the Hook Office a few times. Brutal tactics like theirs should— I've got the body, not the tactics. Going all out like that's too high energy for me.  As I thought from watching the first round...  And you… that's our tactics. Begging your pardon, sir… that's simply how things work around here. You're both defensive specialists… but if it's a fight of endurance, I'm certain we can't lose. Hey, boss..! Ahh, hell. Their offensive specialist is on his last legs, sir! What the—did we just get juked? We just got juked. Blame it on your own inexperience. Because our Emotion Level was already at 3 at the end of the last fight, our final Abnormality Page comes up this turn. On levels 3 and 4, the level 2 Abnormality Pages show up—giving us two options. Given that Steve is likely to die no matter what we do, this is actually an ideal situation to use Fervent Beats.  It's the only way. If this drags out, I'm dead regardless… give me the power. I can take it. Until your heart explodes, anyways. The librarian under the effect of Fervent Beats gets a beating heart attached to them, which we'll be able to see better once the fighting starts.  Sir, something's strange about the one we targeted. Observe for now, and focus on the quiet one. If he's going to blow, we don't want to be near it. Walter's Suppress is a 2-cost page with dice rolls close to Strong Strike, a 3-cost we saw last tier. It's very good, but Retaliate with our +1 Strength from Pulsation should break in our favor overall.  Blade Whirl, meanwhile, is Isadora's unique page for this battle. Its first two hits are decent dice that give out a pair of status effects, but this is really a Power-stacking target like C-chop it Off! before it.  Steve is going for a one-sided attack with Strong Strike, which should be overkill given Walter's resistances. This turn's going to suck for Zaida a little bit, but that's life.  I'm going to make you pay for what you did to San and Julia! I didn't do anything to them, though? They came in here and died! Yeah, on a different floor. You're still working with the killers, so it's—  Hey! That was a cheap shot, you little..! Sorry. I just wanted you to stop talking.  Don't worry, Miss Isadora, I have your back! Thanks…  Geez..! Right in the gut? I told you, boy. Zwei Association is the ultimate shield. Every move you make I can see right through. Guess that's true…  But any shield breaks if you hit it hard enough. You... lured me in… "Blame it on your own inexperience," right? Nnghh… Sir! Don't worry, I'll protect you! You won't get the chance!Look at that 22 damage. That was on a minimum roll.   One down. Who's next? That heart's giving you a hell of a powerup, huh? It's exhilarating. I can hear my heart beating in my ears, and every thrum is pure power. At this point, the fight has entered mopup mode. Neither one of the remaining pair has enough offensive presence to take out our Librarians.  Combat Preparations is the other new page in this reception. The 2 Endurance it grants all party members is invaluable when using defensive-heavy decks, but it's coming out too late to change the flow of this fight.   The others target the add-on. Because having her allies die will raise Isadora's Emotion Level and I want more copies of her book, this is the best order to handle things in.  That power… it's overwhelming. Who are you?! I'm just a normal guy, driven into a corner. Is that so…Steve knocks off half her HP in a single clash.  Roland knocks the other enemy for a loop…  And E-endure remains a very bad page for this reception.  This is the last turn… I can feel it, about to blow. It's gonna be tight… We'll just do what we can. One last set of pages—Steve should be enough to handle Isadora, and Roland and Zaida might be able to clear the last one out.  One enemy on a platter for you, boss. It's done. Steve staggers Isadora, and she's at 2 HP with 3 Burn. She's gone at end of turn. ...I did it. Did what? You're about to die. I know that. But… I heard you guys talking about your heart exploding. From the second Walter died, I was dead… I knew that. But still… I may burn, but I've taken one of you down with me. drat… We were too late.  Sucks, but that's the job. Let's clean up and get moving. While Zwei 3 is our first battle where the enemy has two speed dice, Walter is relatively fragile in practice—and his lack of draw power means that he'll quickly run out of pages to play if he stays alive for more than a few turns anyways. Music: Result  How you feeling? Like spikes are thrusting into every part of my head… But I'll take it, all told. I guess that lady didn't realize we just come back, huh? People normally die when they're killed. We're just an exception. Where's the boss? Angela called him. Probably wanted to talk. Anyways, you're alive. And I'm out. VIDEO Music: Lobby  Boy, not that topic again… Someone I used to know loved to say that phrase. Like I told you before, making machines with emotions or sapience is forbidden. Even if one were to be made, the Head has long settled the ethical implications and all that. That means they’ve decided on a solid answer for the long-standing question: “How is a machine with emotions different from a human?”. Their answer being: “Even if a machine carries emotions and intelligence, and is nearly identical to a human in every aspect, it is still a machine by birth. Machines should always be below humans…” In short, “Machines are machines, and humans are humans. Machines exist solely to serve humans.” is what they’re saying. That’s the mindset people in the City decided to have. Where would human brains stuffed in heaps of scrap metal belong? Those would still technically count as humans. Some might consider them “defiled”, and others might look down on them, but the brains themselves are natural. You get what I’m saying? What about an electronic copy of a human brain? That… would be a machine. Since it’s not “born” human. To be frank, I don’t really get these standards, either. I guess birthright matters to them the most. Maybe it’s a defensive reaction born out of the urge to “preserve” humanity as a species. …That’s unfair. Nothing is ever fair in this world. You’re right, it seems everyone lives with a share of unfairness they must bear. Now you’re talking like a City dweller. By the way… I've written another book. Oh? And what knowledge have you seen fit to provide today, ma'am? I've written a book about Lobotomy Corporation itself. Using this, I assume we can get additional guests.This book shows up after we beat Zwei 3, and follows the same rules as the Book of Distortion we got earlier.  Acquiring the Book of Walter opens up Yesod's next Abnormality Battle, as well. And on top of that…  It seems there's a branch in the path! The days of being on rails are almost over—this is about where Library of Ruina begins to open up a little bit, and that means it's time for another poll. Next time, on Library of Ruina   "Blood covers the whole floor, screams echo, people are running away..." It's! About! Sending! A drat! Message! A Drunk on a Train.Videos Zwei Association 5 New Key Pages   New Combat Pages   
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Junpei posted:Okay the idea was appealing enough that I had to make this edit so I have officially joined the Fanart Club. Presenting: Junpei posted:Made a version of the Sephirot Sentai Libranger with all of them... will probably remake it one more time when I can replace the Middle and Lower (err, Upper now) with Library of Ruina portraits CHiRAL posted:
Tenebrais posted:You got it all wrong! Ya'll I'm tired and fighting through a cold and whatnot, but sentai shitposts absolutely give me life. MetaMeme posted:I actually figured out the entire roster from first principles no need to thank me Please stop stealing my notes, MetaMeme. I don't want people knowing that the final boss is actually The Bloodstained Sweater, Mr. Rogers.
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We only get a few pages this time, but there's some absolutely incredible ones among them. New Key Pages Bad. Hooooooly poo poo, Walter is far and away the best keypage you'll have for a good few fights. Power is, as has been mentioned, the God Stat, and having a constant +1 to every single blue dice you throw out is far and away the best passive available at this stage in the game. The best pages you have right now are all defence heavy - E-endure is better, Retaliate is better, all the really good Zwei cards that buff Endurance are better. And by far the best part of this amazing page? Its color. It's purple, not gold, meaning you get THREE of these bad boys! Walter's going to be relevant for a loooooong time, even if only as a filler keypage. New Combat Pages Isadora, first of The Cheese. This card is just ridiculous, 2 Endurance for everyone in the party is just flat out one of the strongest effects in the entire game. And you get it before you even leave the tutorial! If you use this two turns in a row, it turns into a 3-4/4-6/3-10 card. If all three of your nuggets used it last turn with Walters equipped, it becomes an absolutely insane 3-4/7-11/8-15. Except for the mediocre first attack die, those are numbers that would be super hot on endgame cards. And I shouldn't need to explain what this does to cards like E-Endure and Retaliate, should I? If you want to turn the early game into a joke, abuse this, Guardian, E-Endure, and Retaliate. If you want to turn the late game into a joke, have all five of your party members use this and become loving INVINCIBLE the next turn with your +10 endurance. It's insane. That extra 1-8 evade die hanging off the end is also incredible, because if you're using this properly and clash against a 1-2 hit card then another incoming card will basically be completely nullified by an unbeatable evade die. The only downsides are that it doesn't lead off with a blue dice, meaning there's at least a chance you'll eat a hit no matter how hard you abuse it, especially if you use this particular flavour of cheese in the endgame, and that no matter how high you pump their numbers, defensive dice unfortunately can't actually kill your enemies...or can they? (they can't) It's all those really good 3 cost cards from the start of the game, but with 2 cost instead. It'd be god tier if it came a few fights earlier, but now we've got real American cheese from the same fight. The paralysis and bleed are nice though. Why on earth does this exist? No seriously, it's coming from the same fight as Blade Whirl. Like that first die is pretty good but compared to Blade Whirl... GilliamYaeger fucked around with this message at 15:09 on Nov 13, 2021 |
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Ah, Combat Preparation. I still found use for it two tiers later. Maybe this is a weird compliment, but I like how you wrote Isadora, TQ. She's always been one of my favorite guests. Hmm, I'm actually torn on a poll choice for once. Abno battle is traditional, but the way you phrased a particular path just sounds so dang appealing.
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The days where our votes are really just "abno battle yes/no" are going to be over very soon, just you see. That being said, we're still probably going to vote for Abnormality Battles as soon as they crop up, as a rule. More power to our floors is still a big deal, after all.
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Materant posted:The days where our votes are really just "abno battle yes/no" are going to be over very soon, just you see. That being said, we're still probably going to vote for Abnormality Battles as soon as they crop up, as a rule. More power to our floors is still a big deal, after all. Yeah, everyone's keen to see more nuggets too. But I'm also personally interested in how the runoff vote will break down between the two non-abno battles.
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I imagine things will get more interesting when we hit the bigger path branches of the game. I can totally see us jumping on every Abno on sight, but branching receptions are definitely going to have some back and forth; we might want to see the end of path before starting another one, but the game's difficulty curve might disagree.TeeQueue posted:Please stop stealing my notes, MetaMeme. I don't want people knowing that the final boss is actually The Bloodstained Sweater, Mr. Rogers.
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