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Went outside to put together one of the walls. Did a couple of cuts by hand and it appeared to be a dry day, so I went and set up the mitre saw. I quickly regretted this jank-rear end setup but it got the job done. I'll do something different next time.  Cut to size.  Noggins. Is there a specific height these should be at? Maybe 1220mm in case they need to line up with a sheet?  The tarp eyelets were mostly torn to shreds by the winds so I've given up on using the tarped area as a workspace, but it's doing a great job keeping the stockpile dry. As I use up boards I'm now putting the joists back there, since (other than the OSB) they're the timber I care about the most.  Staging area. Will probably use this for cutting in future.  Marking off the second half of this wall.  Pretty much the same as the first.  I've not fixed anything together yet, I wanted to make the most of the dry day, but they're ready to go.
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Workbench cleared and 26 boards ready for cutting to size tomorrow. Hoping to have them done so on the weekend I can just nail them all together. Stockpile shrinking accordingly (and a couple more joists moved under cover). 
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Dec 16, 2021 19:23
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Studs and noggings cut to size, ready to go. I'll need to measure the sole/wall plates and four make-up noggings "on site" as it were, but this is the bulk of it for the three shorter walls. I'm intending to put them up tomorrow.
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Dec 18, 2021 20:29
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...noggings? You British people and your words.
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Dec 18, 2021 22:02
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Stacked up and ready to go. Wall 0.5.   Braced against tipping and racking.  Noggings. Or if you're in NA, "blocking". Or if you're Kiwi / Scottish / mountain troll, "dwang".  Second half in and braced. This little cabinet continues to provide value, this time as something to fix onto.  Halves bolted together.  Thus.  Also marked up the plates for the other two walls, stacked ready for cutting. 
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Dec 19, 2021 15:45
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Did you make that two separate pieces just so it'd be easier to solo position or is there another reason? Looks good!
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Dec 19, 2021 22:00
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tangy yet delightful posted:Did you make that two separate pieces just so it'd be easier to solo position or is there another reason? Looks good! Mostly that (I can lift a full wall solo but I don't know if it'd survive the process), but also because I can use single boards for the tops and bottoms without having to worry about joining them or buying/handling 6m+ lengths. I'm sure there's ways to do it, but since I'd already got this bilateral symmetry in the floor I might as well mirror it in the walls. Jaded Burnout fucked around with this message at 22:51 on Dec 19, 2021 |
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Dec 19, 2021 22:49
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Quote is still not edit.
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Dec 19, 2021 22:50
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Another set cut to size and marked, ready to go. I've tried a variety of ways of marking wood for general carpentry and the best one I've found so far are "china pencils", I think named because they can be used to write on crockery. I think they're just wax. All the others are either too faint to see clearly, too imprecise, or don't deal well with water.  Feeling a bit off today so I'm not going to put up the next wall yet. Booster jab booked for tomorrow so we'll see when I can get back to it. Did a few odd jobs. Enough of the cheap bulbs that the electrician put in have now burned out that I've run out of spares. Bought a pack of 50 of what I'm sure will be very reliable replacements.
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Dec 20, 2021 15:37
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chinagraph pencils, beloved of waterproof map users the world over. A crayon for grownups.
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Dec 21, 2021 10:26
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Jaded Burnout posted:Another set cut to size and marked, ready to go. How precise are you being with the cuts for timber framing? My impression is that as long as you can make it square in the end, in construction they don't worry 100% about everything being perfect underneath.
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Dec 21, 2021 11:21
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knox_harrington posted:How precise are you being with the cuts for timber framing? My impression is that as long as you can make it square in the end, in construction they don't worry 100% about everything being perfect underneath. Not very, but normal wood marking crayons are real chunky since they’re really just for writing on it. No point unnecessarily introducing error by using one for length marking imo.
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Dec 21, 2021 14:14
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Makes sense. I'm halfassedly getting into making furniture and on recommendation from a course I'm following am using a mechanical pencil for marking, it's making a big difference that the line is exactly where it's supposed to be. So yeah same principle of not introducing unnecessary imprécision.
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Dec 21, 2021 18:01
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I like the mechanical pencil or a marking blade (thanks SA secret Santa!) for properly accurate stuff.
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Dec 21, 2021 19:21
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Wall go up.   
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Dec 22, 2021 18:59
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Is it a problem that the plastic over the floor insulation has started to come loose?
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Dec 22, 2021 19:50
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Computer viking posted:Is it a problem that the plastic over the floor insulation has started to come loose? It’s certainly not ideal but I’ve long since given up on it. I’m just going to have to deal with the consequences once there’s a roof on it.
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Dec 22, 2021 20:51
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Jaded Burnout posted:I like the mechanical pencil or a marking blade (thanks SA secret Santa!) for properly accurate stuff. I have some mechanical pencils with leads the size of normal wood pencils for that sort of thing. They require sharpening (sharpener is built into the cap on top) but are less delicate. This is what I bought: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07G6YWVJK/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1 That set is unavailable, but there are others. I gave some of the leads, one of the pencils, and the case to may daughter for drawing, since you can get various lead hardnesses as well (and the pencil has a changeable indicator for the lead hardness). Also, you can get colored leads so you can mark in red, blue, etc., if you prefer.
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Dec 22, 2021 23:07
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Back wall go up. Can I level noggings by eye? No. Use markings and/or a level.  I cut the two central noggings too long so they need trimming and putting in later.   I was intending to do a full height california corner in each of these but I can't quite now I have the little stub noggings there. I can still cut some to size and/or use offcuts. They won't be supporting much weight at all since one of the studs lands so close to the corner. Site overview.  That's the last of the timber I had cut to size. Marked up a couple more pieces (and those overlong noggings) for cutting, as sole plates for the front wall.  I'll need to head out some time and mark up the wall plates for that wall, which will be more complicated than the ones done so far.
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Dec 23, 2021 14:19
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Your shed is going to be much cooler than the other sheds. I'm a little surprised to see the hoist style clothesline your neighbor has, I only saw them when I lived in Australia as a kid, where there was lots of sun. I think climbing on the rotating handle and falling off was a rite of passage at 5-8 years old.
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Dec 23, 2021 14:57
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Those are really common in the UK and Ireland. Lots of fun to be had spinning them into people's heads, you see.
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Dec 23, 2021 15:12
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Jaded Burnout posted:
Nice!!
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Dec 23, 2021 15:28
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Spent this evening laying out the framing for the front wall. If anyone spots any fatal flaws, now's the time!
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Dec 24, 2021 22:21
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Labelled and brought in about 35 boards to fulfill the cut list. That is the majority of the remaining boards in the stockpile, so I used the space to stash the rest of the joists.  The few boards left over are bent as gently caress, hopefully won't need them for much unless I can somehow straighten them out.
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Dec 28, 2021 17:13
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Stack cut ready for assembly.
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Dec 29, 2021 21:36
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A wall kit, if you will.
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Dec 29, 2021 22:54
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Darchangel posted:A wall kit, if you will. Indeed. I need to cut the lintels but I think that'll have to happen by hand outside. I'm not sure if my saw can handle a 3x8 even if it wasn't 6m long. I'll do that tomorrow, and move this lot down to the workshop. I'm trying for achievable goals, these days.
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Dec 29, 2021 23:16
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Cold drizzle be damned, chop chop.  Next.  And finally.  Got pretty decent at clean straight cuts, but still could be better. I'm not a fan of the handle on these saws. IMO they're badly balanced when sawing with one hand.  Then moved all the mats to the workshop area ready for assembly.  
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OK first thing's first, put those two missing noggings in. Then on to the wall. Let's go.  This one's more complicated than the others. Started by fixing together the door's left jack and king studs, because they can be referenced against the end of the wall's bottom plate.   Then follow it round, taking a measurement along the bottom plate to the bottom of the stud in order to find the position against the top plate.  Square it up and brace it.  Using the lintel as a guide, I then put the king stud in for the window.  It was around about this point that I realised I'd fixed this on the wrong side of the blue mark. With quite long nails.  The only way to undo that without wrecking things was to wedge my leg into the gap between the jack stud and the top plate and flex real hard. Thank goodness for thighs.  Redone correctly.  I thought I could fit a third stud in between the existing two but I must've miscalculated somewhere. It'll be OK, it wasn't necessary. I'll pack out the gap later if needed. Wall raised and fixed. It has something of the gallows to it.  Liintel fixed, long screws and nails.  Putting in the rough window sill, still loving how forgiving soft wood is when faced with self-cutting screws and an impact driver.  Something is wrong with my measurements again.  My maths on the noggings was off somehow. I need to resize a couple and cut some new ones. Fortunately I'd only fixed the top of the cripples so I could twist them off the nails easy enough.  And that's where we are for the day.  You can get an idea now of what a 1:10 (~5º) roof slope looks like over 5m.  Tomorrow I think I'm due a rest day, so I'll cut those new noggings and have at it again on Sunday. I'm going to need to move the tower down to work up near the top of that wall. The hop-up isn't getting it done at 3m height.
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quote:Something is wrong with my measurements again. 
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Raining too much to do much outside today, so I did some tidy up and prep tasks. I need to put together 12m of 2x4 for the binding plate for the front and back walls (will be partially notched to accept the joists). I was planning on using 4x3m boards, cutting two in half, but of the 5 3m boards I have left, none of them are unbowed. I was considering just buying some more, but it's fucken £5.50/m now, so that would be £66. I reckon I can scrape together enough out of what I have left, but it's getting close to the bottom of the barrel.
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Alright step one let's put these noggings in. Why did I think that was going to work. OK put that one aside for trimming later.  Moved / reconfigured the tower. This is as tall as I can go without getting in the way of the joists.  Added the upper cripples.  Second verse, same as the first.  It was at this point that I realised I was short one jack stud. I don't know how, but I did wind up with a 2400 left over from the big cutting sesh, so I guess I miscounted. Took a short break inside to cut one down, plus trimmed those pesky noggings, then continued.   Door lintel in, with cripples, and the two halves of the wall bolted together in the centre.  All the openings were within tolerance, but I wanted to lock down the gap between the openings, so I shimmed them at their existing positions with packers and 200mm timber screws.   The king studs do have a bit of a bend to them now so I may revisit them later. I'll need some kind of wedge I think, if I want to make the gap wider. So there we go, all done, ready for some top plates. 
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Move-in ready!
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C... posted:Move-in ready! I've rented places that were about as weather-proof, and less sturdily built to boot. I don't really have anything to add but I've been living vicariously through this thread for months, thank you for making it!
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jammyozzy posted:I've rented places that were about as weather-proof, and less sturdily built to boot. I think I'll be half expecting it to fall down any minute until it's survived next winter. jammyozzy posted:I don't really have anything to add but I've been living vicariously through this thread for months, thank you for making it! I'm glad you're enjoying it  Still a huge amount to do!
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I really like the facade. Are those big windows on the front the only natural light? or are there skylights I can't remember.
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Jan 4, 2022 19:08
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The doors are all glass too. I was going to have skylights but the added cost and complexity wasn’t worth it, so I’ll put in good LED panels instead.
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imo you should just put your bed and posting station in the shed and use the whole house as your workshop
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Herstory Begins Now posted:your bed and posting station You repeat yourself.
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Herstory Begins Now posted:imo you should just put your bed and posting station in the shed and use the whole house as your workshop You joke, but if I were single, this is about how it would go for me. Give me a huge show and a few hundred square feet of studio apartment, and I'm good. Like, an airplane hanger with an apartment in the corner would be great.
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